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Oh, you win a war not by killing people but by demoralizing them. When the bad guys don't know at what time, from what direction or how they will be attacked, they get demoralized!!!
That is why one snipped can destroy several hundreds enemy. He knocks one off here, another there, he kills the leaders and then the privates panic.
The enemy does not know where you are so they do a reconnaissance-by-fire! By using phase-array radar and TacFire we know exactly where the fire came from within seconds, we assign an artillery unit to return fire from exactly where it came from and bad guys world blows up.
They still don't know where we are but they do know if they shoot, all hell will break loose.

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In Religipublitard logic... when a man cheats on his wife, somehow it is the wife that is shamed.
That is so true. She got as much blame for Clinton's stupid shenanigans as he did. Then the "lesbian" thing got spun. And so it goes...

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We knew that when we developed Quick-Fix TacFire that sooner or later the Soviets would also develop it was that is where we came out with the MRLS (Multiple Rocket Launch System).
Once we knew were the bad guys were we could launch 72 precision aimed, multi-warhead rockets within thirty seconds and thirty seconds later we would be buggin' out to the next firing position where they would rearm. So if the bad guys had the same targeting capacity, we would not be were we were at when they returned fire.
Have you ever hear of "shell shocked"? You get shelled and a tenth of your unit is killed and then you wait for the next attack. Pretty soon the troops panic and break! That is how you defeat the enemy.

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Hummm, have you ever read intelligence reports? I have!!! They list the known facts and then probabilities of what they mean. Do you think that it was odd that not only did Bush believe they had WMD, but also the British, French, Germany, Poland, Russia and Israel.
But also John F-up Kerry, Owl Gore, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Dirty Hair Reid, San Fran Nan Pelosi, etc.!!!
Oh, I know, Kerry said he did befour he said he didn't!!!
Oh, our military goes out of it's way to prevent collateral deaths and injuries. If the Iraqis put their family members in military bunkers, that was NOT OUR FAULT!!!
Of course, you never having been in the military know differently!!!
I told you a hundred times that Germany, France, and Russia did not believe that the Iraqis had WMDs. But you come back every 6 weeks and re-assert it as if nothing had changed. What a fabricator and liar you are. It gets better. I asked you at least 20 times to prove that Germany, France and Russia were believers of WMDs. After the 20th time, you told me, and I'm not making this up, "to find it myself".

For the 21st time, PROVE IT.

As for John F-up Kerry, Owl Gore, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Dirty Hair Reid, San Fran Nan Pelosi (why do you have to ad hominem their names, schoolyard child?), prove that they approved Iraq's invasion. I have serious doubts about Kerry, Gore, Ted Kennedy. And the others , well, they were bamboozled by the lying reports issued by President Cheney, Grove, Rice , Rumsfeld and company. Strange, I have no secret reports to depend on, and I knew there were no WMDs. I still have a hard time forgiving those who believed those reports, and how gullible they were. Not a feather in Hillary Clinton's cap to be sure.

Let's have those Russia-Germany-France proofs please.

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<quoted text>LMAO!!! Poverty has been with man since he was cast out of the garden. Jesus didn't come to save man from poverty, he came to save the souls of man.
I love it when you libs think you can do something that Jesus and mankind hasn't been able to accomplish for thousands of years. Who do you think you are, God!!!
Well, there wasn't a garden. But modern poverty is at least as old as money.

A large majority of what Jesus talked about was caring for the poor. Statistically, it was all he talked about. Compare time spent on ANY other subject and over 350 verses of "word of god" are devoted to teaching people how to care for the poor. But hey, ignore all that. There is a deeper message. Like how you get your own ass immortal.

LOL.. THAT is what is important. You are an idiot and it is a shame there isn't a hell for you to go to.

I knew you didn't know that. You have never read it.

I love it when Dale puts words into peoples mouths because he has clearly lost another argument.

""I love it when you libs think you can do something that Jesus and mankind hasn't been able to accomplish for thousands of years. Who do you think you are, God!!!""

Where did all of that shit come from Dale?

God has nothing to do with poverty. Hell, he has nothing to do with anything at all Dale. And the sooner people start taking responsibility... the better.

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If a Conservative does not support gay marriages, he is a homophobic. But if a Libtard bashes gays, why he really did not intend to do it!!!
TruthRevolt Victory!
MSNBC Suspends Baldwin
Thanks to you, TruthRevolt scored a major victory today as MSNBC suspended annouced it is suspending Alec Baldwin's Up Late in the wake of his anti-gay slurs we have been reporting on for the last several days.
In a statement on the MSNBC website, Baldwin apologizes to his "loyal fans," as well as to his "colleagues at msnbc," saying:
I did not intend to hurt or offend anyone with my choice of words, but clearly I have – and for that I am deeply sorry. Words are important. I understand that, and will choose mine with great care going forward. What I said and did this week, as I was trying to protect my family, was offensive and unacceptable. Behavior like this undermines hard-fought rights that I vigorously support. I understand “Up Late” will be taken off the schedule for tonight and next week.
The suspension comes following a petition campaign by TruthRevolt seeking action from MSNBC against Baldwin for his most recent bigoted remarks.
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"What do I want"? How about the same as YOU would have treated a Conservative you made the same Phoo Pau. You have two standards, one for well meaning Liberals and one for evil conservatives but you are to bigoted to see the difference.
Oh, have any INNOCENT civilians been killed during any of Obama's drone attacks?
Yes, regrettably, civilians have been killed by drones. But not 160,000 and over a million maimed.

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Don't be so stupid. I always acknowledged your piloting skills but also always said that didn't mean you were savvy on aviation in general, any more than driving a car does not make me an automobile industry expert or tapping on this computer makes me a software of hardware expert.
Now, the Cessna is the highest-selling pvt jet aircraft. Did you know that? It also has a high accident record, as the "accident chart" of Airline World will tell you. Of course, that may be because there are so many of them. I don't know the per-capita rate of accidents compared to other pvt jet aircraft.
And do you know why? Because doctors and lawyers buy MU-2s and Cessna Citations and their egos kill themselves. In any event, the accident rate for MU-2 is much higher that Citations are.

Safety Concerns

Concerns have been raised about safety; there have been 330 fatalities from MU-2 crashes.[10] As of October 2005, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has begun a safety evaluation of the aircraft and decided that the aircraft has met its certification requirements - it is safe when operated by properly trained pilots who operate properly maintained aircraft. The FAA is in the process of mandating training specific to the MU-2 as it has in the past for other aircraft. When such mandated training was required outside of the U.S. the MU-2 accident record was vastly improved.

Because the MU-2 offers very high performance at a relatively low cost, some of its operators lack sufficient training and experience for such an advanced aircraft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_MU-2

Oh, did you know about the Mitsubishi MU-2 before I brought it to your attention?

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
We knew that when we developed Quick-Fix TacFire that sooner or later the Soviets would also develop it was that is where we came out with the MRLS (Multiple Rocket Launch System).
Once we knew were the bad guys were we could launch 72 precision aimed, multi-warhead rockets within thirty seconds and thirty seconds later we would be buggin' out to the next firing position where they would rearm. So if the bad guys had the same targeting capacity, we would not be were we were at when they returned fire.
Have you ever hear of "shell shocked"? You get shelled and a tenth of your unit is killed and then you wait for the next attack. Pretty soon the troops panic and break! That is how you defeat the enemy.
Hows that been going for us? Should only be a few more weeks till they break...huh?

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In Religipublitard logic... when a man cheats on his wife, somehow it is the wife that is shamed.
No, it is small-minded peoples logic as we know both men and women screw around for a variety of reasons.
Why my baby brother just divorced his wife of ten years (20 year relationship) because he reconnected with an old lover.
By baby brother is an atheist, pot-smoking, flaming progressive. His ex-wife is pretty Liberal too but she is not an in-you-face- progressive like my brother is.
Oh, I went to their wedding Labor Day weekend 2002. His "best man" was a lesbian. We had three lesbian and one gay couple at the wedding. I had taken my 11 year old granddaughter and it was one of those "don't ask, don't tell" events. When she was about 15 I asked her about it and she said she had figured it out.
But Liberals average three times as many partners than Conservatives do. Yes, there are exceptions like Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich but I said "average".

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
We knew that when we developed Quick-Fix TacFire that sooner or later the Soviets would also develop it was that is where we came out with the MRLS (Multiple Rocket Launch System).
Once we knew were the bad guys were we could launch 72 precision aimed, multi-warhead rockets within thirty seconds and thirty seconds later we would be buggin' out to the next firing position where they would rearm. So if the bad guys had the same targeting capacity, we would not be were we were at when they returned fire.
Have you ever hear of "shell shocked"? You get shelled and a tenth of your unit is killed and then you wait for the next attack. Pretty soon the troops panic and break! That is how you defeat the enemy.
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Hows that been going for us? Should only be a few more weeks till they break...huh?
How long did it take us to get from the Iraq border to Baghdad?
March 20, 2003 the war starts.
April 10, 2003 we take Baghdad just 20 days later!!!

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We did in a few weeks what Rommel could not do in a few months!!!

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Hows that been going for us? Should only be a few more weeks till they break...huh?
Just like Vietnam under LBJ, Obama will not let the military fight to WIN! In the end both sides will lose fewer people.

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Hummm, have you ever read intelligence reports? I have!!! They list the known facts and then probabilities of what they mean. Do you think that it was odd that not only did Bush believe they had WMD, but also the British, French, Germany, Poland, Russia and Israel.
But also John F-up Kerry, Owl Gore, Bill & Hillary Clinton, Teddy Kennedy, Dirty Hair Reid, San Fran Nan Pelosi, etc.!!!
Oh, I know, Kerry said he did befour he said he didn't!!!
Oh, our military goes out of it's way to prevent collateral deaths and injuries. If the Iraqis put their family members in military bunkers, that was NOT OUR FAULT!!!
Of course, you never having been in the military know differently!!!
Damn right I know differently.

And let me tell ya, being indoctrinated into military serfdom certainly doesn't give you an advantage as a freethinker.

You haven't been in the military since the 80s and I am supposed to believe that you are given recent intelligence gathering information the rest of us are not?

Rouge, I don't care. You can believe every statement the Bush administration ever made. It is your M.O. we get it. They PUT their kids there so we would blow them up, you know send a message.

Any idea how deranged you are?

You would think it would bother you more. After all, you and all of your buddies were offered up to Vietnam over a lie. August 4, 1964 never happened.

Yet it is impossible for you to comprehend we have done the same thing...again, and again.

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No, it is small-minded peoples logic as we know both men and women screw around for a variety of reasons.
Why my baby brother just divorced his wife of ten years (20 year relationship) because he reconnected with an old lover.
By baby brother is an atheist, pot-smoking, flaming progressive. His ex-wife is pretty Liberal too but she is not an in-you-face- progressive like my brother is.
Oh, I went to their wedding Labor Day weekend 2002. His "best man" was a lesbian. We had three lesbian and one gay couple at the wedding. I had taken my 11 year old granddaughter and it was one of those "don't ask, don't tell" events. When she was about 15 I asked her about it and she said she had figured it out.
But Liberals average three times as many partners than Conservatives do. Yes, there are exceptions like Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich but I said "average".
Case in point. Why did it ever matter at all who was there?

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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We knew that when we developed Quick-Fix TacFire that sooner or later the Soviets would also develop it was that is where we came out with the MRLS (Multiple Rocket Launch System).
Once we knew were the bad guys were we could launch 72 precision aimed, multi-warhead rockets within thirty seconds and thirty seconds later we would be buggin' out to the next firing position where they would rearm. So if the bad guys had the same targeting capacity, we would not be were we were at when they returned fire.
Have you ever hear of "shell shocked"? You get shelled and a tenth of your unit is killed and then you wait for the next attack. Pretty soon the troops panic and break! That is how you defeat the enemy.
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How long did it take us to get from the Iraq border to Baghdad?
March 20, 2003 the war starts.
April 10, 2003 we take Baghdad just 20 days later!!!
War kind of implies that there are two organized forces in combat. Iraq just seems like a senseless beating.

Oh, I see, we won?

Then where are all the people we sent over there?

Guess we can focus all this money we have been flushing for decades on something useful.

Rouge we are still in the desert. Over 12 years later.
Our guys are still dying. The taliban and al-queda are doing better than ever.
We may never not be in the desert again.

Whats all this about destroying the enemy again?

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Question, who killed and maimed most of those Iraqis? Bush???
Next, Iraq's oil supply was added to the world supply. Case in point, what was the cost of gasoline in the U.S. when Bush left office?
$1.84 per gallon in Jan. 2009!
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/...
Now, what is the price TODAY?!? Now, shut the F-up!
Rouge thinks that the oil companies that benefit from American interest in the gulf are going to help Americans save money!!!!

BAhhhahahaha.

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Just like Vietnam under LBJ, Obama will not let the military fight to WIN! In the end both sides will lose fewer people.
And what of Bush? Did he fight to win?

I mean we took the whole country in days... right?

This thing should have been mopped up well before the election.

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Frank wrote:
<quoted text>John Bingham was the absolute expert on immigration,as it applied to The Constitution.
Interpreting the Constitution is not based on the personal opinions of anyone. Interpreting the Constitution is solely within the province of the courts and they held that personal opinions of members of congress are irrelevant in determining the meaning of language in the Constitution.

Justice Scalia reminds us that "We are governed by laws, not by the intentions of legislators. As the Court said in 1844: "The law as it passed is the will of the majority of both houses, and the only mode in which that will is spoken is in the act itself ...." Aldridge v. Williams, 3 How. 9, 24 (emphasis added). But not the least of the defects of legislative history is its indeterminacy. If one were to search for an interpretive technique that, on the whole, was more likely to confuse than to clarify, one could hardly find a more promising candidate than legislative history....
Judge Harold Leventhal used to describe the use of legislative history as the equivalent of entering a crowded cocktail party and looking over the heads of the guests for one's friends. Conroy v. Aniskoff, 507 US 511, 519 (Scalia, J., concurring)

Moreover, "While it is generally true that debates in Congress are not appropriate sources of information from which to discover the meaning of the language of a statute passed by that body. Binns v. United States, 194 US 486 , 495(1904)(internal citation omitted)

Finally, the piece de resistance "By repeated decisions of this court it has come to be well established that the debates in Congress expressive of the views and motives of individual members are not a safe guide, and hence may not be resorted to, in ascertaining the meaning and purpose of the law-making body. Aldridge v. Williams, 3 How. 9, 24; United States v. Union Pacific R.R. Co., 91 U.S. 72, 79; United States v. Trans-Missouri Freight Association, 166 U.S. 290, 318. Duplex Printing Press Co. v. Deering, 254 US 443, 474 (1923)

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Just like Vietnam under LBJ, Obama will not let the military fight to WIN! In the end both sides will lose fewer people.
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And what of Bush? Did he fight to win?
I mean we took the whole country in days... right?
This thing should have been mopped up well before the election.
Yes we did WIN the Military war in just three weeks. We lost the insurgency because of Obama!!!
Now, how many civilians have been killed in Obama's Drone Strikes?

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Question, who killed and maimed most of those Iraqis? Bush???
Next, Iraq's oil supply was added to the world supply. Case in point, what was the cost of gasoline in the U.S. when Bush left office?
$1.84 per gallon in Jan. 2009!
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2009/ ...
Now, what is the price TODAY?!? Now, shut the F-up!
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Rouge thinks that the oil companies that benefit from American interest in the gulf are going to help Americans save money!!!!
BAhhhahahaha.
Obviously you do not grasp the world oil markets. When Bill Clinton released some oil from the strategic oil reserves, tanker ships that were enroute to the U.S. changed course and went to other countries.
When Iraq put it's oil in the world market, very little came to the U.S. but it did make an impact on the "World Market"!
Imagine a pipe full of marbles. You put a marble in one end and one comes out the other end. So put a "Y"at either end. It does not matter which Y you put it in, another one will pop out some place.
Talking logic to a Libtard is like eating your table for breakfast.

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