BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179475 Nov 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I brought this up a year ago. The military is demoralized just like it was under Jimmy Carter. When an officer/pilot turns down a quarter million dollar bonus, something is wrong.
Six months ago the Navy said they were short 200 fighter pilots and in 1980 it cost the Navy $2M to train each one so I can assume that is like $5M each today.
When Jimmy Carter left officer in 1980 the Army was short 2,000 helicopter pilots and it took Reagan eight years to fix that. Who wants to serve under a Black Jimmy Carter idiot???
I sure we don't get involved in another real war as we might have something that is far worse than another Pearl Harbor!
AF Pilots Rejecting Bonuses to Leave Service
Nov 14, 2013: Military.com | by Richard Sisk
Loss of flying hours under the budget cuts has increasingly led Air Force pilots to reject lucrative re-enlistment bonuses to take jobs with the civilian airlines, acting Air Force Secretary Eric Fanning said Thursday.
"Pilots aren't taking them," Fanning said of the incentive bonuses that range from $25,000 to a maximum of $250,000.
Fanning did not give figures on the number of pilots who have rejected the bonuses but said "pilots want to fly," and there was less opportunity for doing that with whole squadrons periodically being grounded to save money. Absent help from Congress on funding, "we're going to have to continue these rolling groundings for squadrons," Fanning said.
In addition, airline jobs are opening up as more airline pilots retire, Fanning said at an issues forum sponsored by Defense One.
"It's not just compensation that keeps people in the military, it's the mission," Fanning said. Addressing the growth rate of compensation was a key factor in meeting the requirements of the sequester process under the Budget Control Act.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/11/14...
You tell posters to get off GWB's back because , after all, hey guys, GWB's been out for 5 years and here you go again, whining about Jimmy Carter, who's been away, what, 5 years, NO, 10 years, NO, 20 years, NO, 30 years ? NO. How about 32 years and 9 months? And stop complaining about what the gov't's doing to the military and its $700 billion budget for heaven's sake. And Rogue, can't you see that a 1970s style military just won't cut it today? It's all about roadside bombs now, and suicide bombers, and drones and soon, H-bombs smuggled into containers. Try and stop that with your useless anti-missile systems ,humongous aircraft carriers, F22s and F35s and so forth.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#179476 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Its very interesting that we have 535 Nasty Pelois' in Congress (we have to pass this bill to find out what is in it).
Nasty, go away! It is bad enough to see your ugly puss on TV, do we really have to read your crap, also.
Rational people will notice that Dale did not respond to the legal facts cited.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179477 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Toothless wonder, you need to read Art 2, Sect. 1, para 5.
Come back when you can pass gas and not move your lips.
No sign of play law anywhere in the referenced paragraph ... Shocking!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179478 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Yep, our guy lost twice to a Communist alien and low information voters.
And those very words of yours (above), make you a high information voter? LMAO (LRS-Dale tm reg'd).
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#179479 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Sorry, but English Common Law citizenship hasn't been used sine 1866/1868, citizenship is now by Constitutional Law.
Nancy, shouldn't you be helping your Liar N' Cheat, you know he is about one step away from impeachment.
My name is Ellen.

Re "English common law hasn't been used since 1866/68. Who told you that? It is wrong.

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

Are you claiming that you are right and that the Heritage Foundation is wrong?

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179480 Nov 15, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Rational people will notice that Dale did not respond to the legal facts cited.
Rational people, unlike yourself know I have responded to you crap time after time on the same subject.
Nasty, do something you are good at, polish some knobs in congress.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179481 Nov 15, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
My name is Ellen.
Re "English common law hasn't been used since 1866/68. Who told you that? It is wrong.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Are you claiming that you are right and that the Heritage Foundation is wrong?
More reading on the subject:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...
LMAO!!! Nasty, I am claiming that Mr. Howard was right or did you forget to read that post, also!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179482 Nov 15, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
My name is Ellen.
Re "English common law hasn't been used since 1866/68. Who told you that? It is wrong.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Are you claiming that you are right and that the Heritage Foundation is wrong?
More reading on the subject:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...
LMAO!!! Your name is, Nasty!!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179483 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Rational people, unlike yourself know I have responded to you crap time after time on the same subject.
Nasty, do something you are good at, polish some knobs in congress.
You have most definitely posted crap time after time on the same subject
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179484 Nov 15, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
No sign of play law anywhere in the referenced paragraph ... Shocking!
Toothless wonder, so you agree that Jackson was eligible to be POTUS.
Guess that subject is closed.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#179485 Nov 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You tell posters to get off GWB's back because , after all, hey guys, GWB's been out for 5 years and here you go again, whining about Jimmy Carter, who's been away, what, 5 years, NO, 10 years, NO, 20 years, NO, 30 years ? NO. How about 32 years and 9 months? And stop complaining about what the gov't's doing to the military and its $700 billion budget for heaven's sake. And Rogue, can't you see that a 1970s style military just won't cut it today? It's all about roadside bombs now, and suicide bombers, and drones and soon, H-bombs smuggled into containers. Try and stop that with your useless anti-missile systems ,humongous aircraft carriers, F22s and F35s and so forth.
I am comparing Obama to Jimmy Carter but if you want to compare Obama to Bush-43, okay. The military was far more prepared for further combat five years ago than it is now. We have equipment returning from Iraq and Afghanistan that is not being repaired, but set out in to lots to rust.
We have pilots, who are not piloting and their skills are getting usty and the pilots graduating from flight school are not developing their skills.
Obama toke the U.S. Enterprise out of service two years early so he could spend the money on things like birth control and Obama phones. As we speak, only half of our carrier groups are deployed or capable of being deployed on short notice. For the first time since WWII we have no carrier task force assigned to the Mediterranean Sea which could have helped out during that Ben Ghazi thing!
The F-15s have been in-service for since 1976 and they are literally falling apart.

Air Force Falls Apart While Obama Plots Even More Cuts
November 10, 2012 By Daniel Greenfield
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/air-...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#179486 Nov 15, 2013
No problem. Just fix them with 100 mph tape.

An inspection of all Air Force F-15s turned up 149 that also had thin or rough finished longerons and nine jets with cracked longerons.

Since the inspections, the Air Force has cleared most of its 420-plus F-15s to return to flight. However, Eagles with questionable longerons must be inspected more often.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/article/20080324...
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179487 Nov 15, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
You have most definitely posted crap time after time on the same subject
Toothless wonder!! Flatulence will get you no where.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179488 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Toothless wonder, so you agree that Jackson was eligible to be POTUS.
Guess that subject is closed.
Of course he was - but then I don't believe in play law. I also know that Obama was / is eligible - again realizing that play law is of no value other than entertainment
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179489 Nov 15, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course he was - but then I don't believe in play law. I also know that Obama was / is eligible - again realizing that play law is of no value other than entertainment
LMAO!! I don't believe in play law either, that is why I use the intent of the framers of the Constitution and its amendments.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179490 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!! I don't believe in play law either, that is why I use the intent of the framers of the Constitution and its amendments as toilet tissue.
FIFY

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#179491 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Yep, you really need to find out what the stipulation is to our jus soli, and of course a statute citizen is not a Natural Born Citizen, which brings us back to the 14th amendment, it only makes two types of citizen (Natural Born and Naturalized).
The United States Supreme Court, in numerous decisions, disagrees with your fantasy.

Quote Bingham all you want. The Supreme Court weighed in on 14 many times and disagrees with him, as well.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#179492 Nov 15, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Violations of the Constitution doesn't make law or precedent.
The United States Supreme Court upheld the law many times, in fact.

You remain delusional.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#179493 Nov 15, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
And, guess what, Bingham changed his mind. He later said that Natural Born Citizens include ALL the children born in the USA.
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
EVERY PERSON.
Don't confuse him with the truth.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179494 Nov 15, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
FIFY
LMAO!!! Ohhh, speak to me "Great-Toothless-Wonder "!

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