BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179228 Nov 12, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Did you see in the news that Oklahoma Sen. Inhofe's son has died in a plane crash near Tulsa.
It appears that he was the pilot. And by the looks of the wreckage, not a very good one.
That's what happens when you mix arrogance with serious business.
loose
Why you being mean? A man died, a man you don't know. Reports say the engine failed.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179229 Nov 12, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
We believe that Inhofe, The Younger, had his head so high in the clouds that when he got himself into a mid-flight emergency and lost an engine, he paniced and cork-screwed his aireplane right into terra firma.
Those hot-dog pilots put everyone at risk every time they go up.
loose
yur an idiot, a mean one at that. Go suck a coconut.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179230 Nov 12, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
Did we invade Syria yet?
It seems that Republicants love whining about things that have not happened.
If your healthcare provider made you switch plans because of the new law, blame them. The University of Chicago released a study a while back that showed that 90 of insurance plans cover less than what the new law demands. They will charge some people more in order to do that. If you don't like it, too bad. The President ran for re-election based on that program. He won. get over it. It is his mandate.
the new law is stupid, spanky, I don't need birth control and maternity benefits and neither does my wife.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179231 Nov 12, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
And the pathetic Dufus does not comprehend that the child born of aliens in the US (not the child of foreign diplomats) is completely subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the moment of birth.
100%. It's US law.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! It is well known that children born in the US of alien parents acquire the citizenship of their father's nation of origin, this is well proven by Mr. Howard with his comments on the Citizenship Clause.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
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Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Scottsdale, AZ

#179232 Nov 12, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Irrelevant!!! The Constitution says who will be citizens of the US, those that are only subject to the jurisdiction, thereof.
Too bad Dufus Dale doesn't understand what that means.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179233 Nov 12, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad Dufus Dale doesn't understand what that means.
LMAO!!! It is too bad you keep forgetting that the Constitution has complete jurisdiction over this Republic. You might also try to understand who the Constitution was written for.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179234 Nov 12, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale fantasizes that Kent redefined common law as civil law, even though he recognized the distinction throughout his career.
And Dufus Dale fantasizes that a quote from a chapter on the Law of Nations is pertinent to the common law as understood by Kent as it pertained to citizenship? What is in Dale's Kool-Aid?
Hey Dale, how about reading from the pertinent chapter?
OF ALIENS AND NATIVES
"Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction of the United States." "Allegiance accrued to the state in which he was born."
And BTW, Dale, Kent understood jurisdiction according to its standard definition, not the Play Law definition. Duh!
"It was admitted that this claim of the state to the allegiance of all persons born within its territories" (That means Dufus, if you're within the territories of the sovereign (king or government), you are under the jurisdiction, thereof. Duh!)
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"James Kent was a U.S. attorney, judge, and scholar who played a central role in adapting the Common Law of England into the common law of the United States."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Civil law and common law are quite distinct.
What a f'cking moron.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! I accomplished exactly what I set out to do! The Law of Nations (by Vattel) did have an input into our Constitution or was Ken a liar.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179235 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>EVERYTHING the dems and Obumbles have proposed is to redistribute wealth, that's all they're interested in domestically. Name something they've done otherwise that repubs oppose.

Higher taxes,less freedom, more giveaways.
More nonsense. Your myopic ignorance is not my problem
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179236 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>There is no couple of trillion in corporate welfare, you've been misled and are confused, I'll be happy to educate you. For your information virtually every lib on here[besides you, so far] is a coward, they refuse to discuss anything.

The tax imbalance I see is millions who pay NO federal taxes, yet receive checks from the treasury. The rich pay a very large proportion of the taxes already, so do the middle class.

Back to your spurious claim corps. receive trillions in welfare.

1. no tax dollars are given to corps. or the "rich". What happens is tax breaks and tax credits, put into law by both parties.

2. the massive stacks of federal laws on the books concern exactly that, 90% are tax issues[breaks, credits] that have been put into law.

3.

Manipulating who pays what is the main concern of all members of congress. Of both parties.

4. welfare/charity to the poor is actual dollars taken from taxpayers, put in the treasury and then handed out to the poor.

Hopefully this has been useful to you.
Your ignorance is not my problem. If you wish to paste volumes of ignorance I suggest you strike up an exchange with another poster.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179237 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>What taxpayer funds were wasted on those 40 votes? How much was spent by chief executive Obumbles keeping people out of outside national monuments? That was pure spite, pettiness, vindictiveness towards the American people.

Do we need federal employees to see the Washinton Monument?
More ignorance. Just scroll on past
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179238 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>I'm pro choice.
Did you avoid the question? Seems so
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179239 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>not really, he had good points imo.
Your ignorance shows again

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179240 Nov 13, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
I guess he didn't feather his prop fast enough when he, The Younger, lost an engine in his airecraft.
How could he not feather his propellor in an emergency such as this?
I'm not pilot, but even I know you have to feather your propellor.
Isn't that right, Rogue?
You have to feather the propellor when you lose an engine.
Serves him right for not feathering, right? Deserved to die.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179241 Nov 13, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure Chirac was wondering how did this ignoramus of a man become the nominee of the Republican party.
lol
========
The pessimist was right / Bush wanted to sodomized bin Laden
In retrospect, Sharon would have done well to listen to the reservations of his friend and admirer, who wrote this book./ Feb. 15, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/keok3lz
Speaking of George Bush, with whom Sharon developed a very close relationship, Uri Dan recalls that Sharon's delicacy made him reluctant to repeat what the president had told him when they discussed Osama bin Laden. Finally he relented. And here is what the leader of the Western world, valiant warrior in the battle of cultures, promised to do to bin Laden if he caught him: "I will screw him in the ass!"
http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/the...
Another empty threat. Took Obama to carry it out for him.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179242 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
actually i believe the republicans try to represent me the best they can. I don't expect them to pass laws giving me money I don't deserve or need. They try to get out of my way and let me be whenever they can.
How can they pass laws giving you money? They gave most of it to Halliburton.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179243 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Another empty threat. Took Obama to carry it out for him.
Though he had different intentions as to the outcome. Instead, he sent him to the bottom of the ocean.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179244 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
the new law is stupid, spanky, I don't need birth control and maternity benefits and neither does my wife.
This post is in serious contention for the "Stupid post of the year". Until now, LRS, Truth Detector (GB aka KFC), Rogue, American Putin Lady, Frank et al were in a dead head stupidity-wise for the top prize. But at the very last minute, you've snatched the trophy away, passed them all and, barring more stupidity from the aforementioned birthers, you are a cinch to win the grand buffoonery prize. Bravo.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#179245 Nov 13, 2013
I know Jacqueau thinks Reuters is a neutral source that does not lean either right or left but they do lean a lot to the left so when they say Clinton "nudge"-ed the Democrats, it is a big understatement.
Without calling Obama a liar, Bill Clinton has called him a ... LIAR!

With a nudge from Bill Clinton, Democrats seek to tweak health law
Reuters By Roberta Rampton and Thomas Ferraro 12 hours ago

By Roberta Rampton and Thomas Ferraro
Related Stories

Bill Clinton Says Health Law May Need to Be Changed The Wall Street Journal
Obama gets earful from Senate Democrats about health law woes Reuters
Obama blames 'bad apple' insurers for canceled coverage Reuters
Obama apologizes to people losing health coverage Associated Press
How Democrats Are Trying to Fix, But Not Criticize, Obamacare The Atlantic Wire

WASHINGTON (Reuters)- The growing pressure on President Barack Obama to adjust his problem-plagued healthcare law seemed to boil over on Tuesday, as leaders of Obama's Democratic Party called on him to allow a change in the law so that Americans who are happy with their health plans could keep them.

In what became the clearest sign yet of Democrats' increasing anxiety over the troubled rollout of the healthcare law, former President Bill Clinton told the web magazine Ozymandias that Obama should support such a change to fulfill a promise he and his administration have made to Americans for years.

"I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton told the magazine.

http://news.yahoo.com/nudge-bill-clinton-demo...
wojar

Mesa, AZ

#179246 Nov 13, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! It is well known that children born in the US of alien parents acquire the citizenship of their father's nation of origin, this is well proven by Mr. Howard with his comments on the Citizenship Clause.
This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
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Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship.
And illiterate birfoon cannot understand the ambassador's child exception to the just soli rule which Howard was aware of and clearly agreed with.
wojar

Mesa, AZ

#179247 Nov 13, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I accomplished exactly what I set out to do! The Law of Nations (by Vattel) did have an input into our Constitution or was Ken a liar.
Sure loser, we had a two citizen parent rule but nobody knew it for over 200 years until Dufus came along.

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