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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Indianapolis, IN

#179238 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>I'm pro choice.
Did you avoid the question? Seems so
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#179239 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>not really, he had good points imo.
Your ignorance shows again

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179240 Nov 13, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
I guess he didn't feather his prop fast enough when he, The Younger, lost an engine in his airecraft.
How could he not feather his propellor in an emergency such as this?
I'm not pilot, but even I know you have to feather your propellor.
Isn't that right, Rogue?
You have to feather the propellor when you lose an engine.
Serves him right for not feathering, right? Deserved to die.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179241 Nov 13, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure Chirac was wondering how did this ignoramus of a man become the nominee of the Republican party.
lol
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The pessimist was right / Bush wanted to sodomized bin Laden
In retrospect, Sharon would have done well to listen to the reservations of his friend and admirer, who wrote this book./ Feb. 15, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/keok3lz
Speaking of George Bush, with whom Sharon developed a very close relationship, Uri Dan recalls that Sharon's delicacy made him reluctant to repeat what the president had told him when they discussed Osama bin Laden. Finally he relented. And here is what the leader of the Western world, valiant warrior in the battle of cultures, promised to do to bin Laden if he caught him: "I will screw him in the ass!"
http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week-s-end/the...
Another empty threat. Took Obama to carry it out for him.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179242 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
actually i believe the republicans try to represent me the best they can. I don't expect them to pass laws giving me money I don't deserve or need. They try to get out of my way and let me be whenever they can.
How can they pass laws giving you money? They gave most of it to Halliburton.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179243 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Another empty threat. Took Obama to carry it out for him.
Though he had different intentions as to the outcome. Instead, he sent him to the bottom of the ocean.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179244 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
the new law is stupid, spanky, I don't need birth control and maternity benefits and neither does my wife.
This post is in serious contention for the "Stupid post of the year". Until now, LRS, Truth Detector (GB aka KFC), Rogue, American Putin Lady, Frank et al were in a dead head stupidity-wise for the top prize. But at the very last minute, you've snatched the trophy away, passed them all and, barring more stupidity from the aforementioned birthers, you are a cinch to win the grand buffoonery prize. Bravo.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#179245 Nov 13, 2013
I know Jacqueau thinks Reuters is a neutral source that does not lean either right or left but they do lean a lot to the left so when they say Clinton "nudge"-ed the Democrats, it is a big understatement.
Without calling Obama a liar, Bill Clinton has called him a ... LIAR!

With a nudge from Bill Clinton, Democrats seek to tweak health law
Reuters By Roberta Rampton and Thomas Ferraro 12 hours ago

By Roberta Rampton and Thomas Ferraro
Related Stories

Bill Clinton Says Health Law May Need to Be Changed The Wall Street Journal
Obama gets earful from Senate Democrats about health law woes Reuters
Obama blames 'bad apple' insurers for canceled coverage Reuters
Obama apologizes to people losing health coverage Associated Press
How Democrats Are Trying to Fix, But Not Criticize, Obamacare The Atlantic Wire

WASHINGTON (Reuters)- The growing pressure on President Barack Obama to adjust his problem-plagued healthcare law seemed to boil over on Tuesday, as leaders of Obama's Democratic Party called on him to allow a change in the law so that Americans who are happy with their health plans could keep them.

In what became the clearest sign yet of Democrats' increasing anxiety over the troubled rollout of the healthcare law, former President Bill Clinton told the web magazine Ozymandias that Obama should support such a change to fulfill a promise he and his administration have made to Americans for years.

"I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton told the magazine.

http://news.yahoo.com/nudge-bill-clinton-demo...
wojar

Phoenix, AZ

#179246 Nov 13, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! It is well known that children born in the US of alien parents acquire the citizenship of their father's nation of origin, this is well proven by Mr. Howard with his comments on the Citizenship Clause.
This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
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Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship.
And illiterate birfoon cannot understand the ambassador's child exception to the just soli rule which Howard was aware of and clearly agreed with.
wojar

Phoenix, AZ

#179247 Nov 13, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I accomplished exactly what I set out to do! The Law of Nations (by Vattel) did have an input into our Constitution or was Ken a liar.
Sure loser, we had a two citizen parent rule but nobody knew it for over 200 years until Dufus came along.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#179248 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
How can they pass laws giving you money? They gave most of it to Halliburton.
There you go again talking about something you know little about. I have worked for the DoD CO (Contracting Officer) and I know there is constant arbitration as things change in small unexpected reasons.
I remember when a civilian contracted Instructor pilot crashed an aircraft and was found to have a BAC of about 0.12 (he's drunk). The Army could not fire him and the contractor would not, so the Army did the next best thing and said he could not fly any Army aircraft. What good is an instructor pilot who was not allowed to get into a U.S. Army aircraft? The Army made their point!!!
WhiteCollarCrime

Edison, NJ

#179250 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
This post is in serious contention for the "Stupid post of the year". Until now, LRS, Truth Detector (GB aka KFC), Rogue, American Putin Lady, Frank et al were in a dead head stupidity-wise for the top prize. But at the very last minute, you've snatched the trophy away, passed them all and, barring more stupidity from the aforementioned birthers, you are a cinch to win the grand buffoonery prize. Bravo.
Absolutely agree!

Fox News makes (Don't Snow Me) Stupid!

ROTFL

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179251 Nov 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I know Jacqueau thinks Reuters is a neutral source that does not lean either right or left but they do lean a lot to the left so when they say Clinton "nudge"-ed the Democrats, it is a big understatement.
Without calling Obama a liar, Bill Clinton has called him a ... LIAR!
With a nudge from Bill Clinton, Democrats seek to tweak health law
Reuters By Roberta Rampton and Thomas Ferraro 12 hours ago
By Roberta Rampton and Thomas Ferraro
Related Stories
Bill Clinton Says Health Law May Need to Be Changed The Wall Street Journal
Obama gets earful from Senate Democrats about health law woes Reuters
Obama blames 'bad apple' insurers for canceled coverage Reuters
Obama apologizes to people losing health coverage Associated Press
How Democrats Are Trying to Fix, But Not Criticize, Obamacare The Atlantic Wire
WASHINGTON (Reuters)- The growing pressure on President Barack Obama to adjust his problem-plagued healthcare law seemed to boil over on Tuesday, as leaders of Obama's Democratic Party called on him to allow a change in the law so that Americans who are happy with their health plans could keep them.
In what became the clearest sign yet of Democrats' increasing anxiety over the troubled rollout of the healthcare law, former President Bill Clinton told the web magazine Ozymandias that Obama should support such a change to fulfill a promise he and his administration have made to Americans for years.
"I personally believe, even if it takes a change to the law, the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they got," Clinton told the magazine.
http://news.yahoo.com/nudge-bill-clinton-demo...
I reflected yesterday, and many times before, how you do not read, and when rarely you do, you do not comprehend what it is you read. And your post (above) is the perfect example of that. I've said at least 5 times that Reuters is Canadian-owned by the Thompson family, the richest in Canada and conservative. I've said that Reuters leans centre-right, NOT NEUTRAL as you maintain I said. I added that although centre-right, Reuters reports the news pretty much as is, though giving slightly greater prominence to centre-right successes.

As to Clinton and Feinstein, if I may add her, saying Obama should do the right thing, well, Rogue, you are so used to Republican party discipline (ALL repub congressmen AND senators UNANIMOUSLY voting against Obamacare...yeah, suuure, give us a break) that you think Clinton and Feinstein cannot admonish the president to do the "right thing" and still be in step with him on mostly everything else. Live and learn, Rogue.

BTW, this unfortunate 5% problem means Obama kept 95% of his promise - though he intended 100%. Know any president who delivered better than 95% of a promise?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179252 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
How can they pass laws giving you money? They gave most of it to Halliburton.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go again talking about something you know little about. I have worked for the DoD CO (Contracting Officer) and I know there is constant arbitration as things change in small unexpected reasons.
I remember when a civilian contracted Instructor pilot crashed an aircraft and was found to have a BAC of about 0.12 (he's drunk). The Army could not fire him and the contractor would not, so the Army did the next best thing and said he could not fly any Army aircraft. What good is an instructor pilot who was not allowed to get into a U.S. Army aircraft? The Army made their point!!!
My only response to the above irrelevant post/reply is :????????

As a matter of fact, and if you read Time Magazine, Vanity Fair exposés and many others, you will see, as if you didn't know, that Halliburton got most of its contract for U.S. military in Iraq untendered, that its former CEO, president Dick Cheney, still had sizeable holding of stock in Halliburton, and that said company got the bulk through untendered contracts, of the New Orleans reconstruction projects, of which over $1.3 billion is still unaccounted for.
WhiteCollarCrime

Edison, NJ

#179253 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Another empty threat. Took Obama to carry it out for him.
Very true, General Tommy Franks wanted to finish the job against al Qaeda in Afghanistan and then invade Somalia and Yemen two other al Qaeda strongholds.

President Halliburton Cheney, Vice President Rummy and the Dummy Bush wanted Iraq which had no al Qaeda and ZERO threat to anyone except Saddam's own people.

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It's still about oil in Iraq /http://tinyurl.com/y28lea December 8, 2006
A centerpiece of the Iraq Study Group's report is its advocacy for securing foreign companies' long-term access to Iraqi oil fields.
WHILE THE Bush administration, the media and nearly all the Democrats still refuse to explain the war in Iraq in terms of oil, the ever-pragmatic members of the Iraq Study Group share no such reticence.

Page 1, Chapter 1 of the Iraq Study Group report lays out Iraq's importance to its region, the U.S. and the world with this reminder: "It has the world's second-largest known oil reserves." The group then proceeds to give very specific and radical recommendations as to what the United States should do to secure those reserves. If the proposals are followed, Iraq's national oil industry will be commercialized and opened to foreign firms.

The report makes visible to everyone the elephant in the room: that we are fighting, killing and dying in a war for oil. It states in plain language that the U.S. government should use every tool at its disposal to ensure that American oil interests and those of its corporations are met.
It's spelled out in Recommendation No. 63, which calls on the U.S. to "assist Iraqi leaders to reorganize the national oil industry as a commercial enterprise" and to "encourage investment in Iraq's oil sector by the international community and by international energy companies." This recommendation would turn Iraq's nationalized oil industry into a commercial entity that could be partly or fully privatized by foreign firms.

This is an echo of calls made before and immediately after the invasion of Iraq.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-juh...

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Australian Nelson: Oil a factor in Iraq deployment
July 5, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/ywcn24
The Howard Government has today admitted that securing oil supplies is a factor in Australia's continued military involvement in Iraq.
Defence Minister Brendan Nelson said today oil was a factor in Australia's contribution to the unpopular war, as "energy security" and stability in the Middle East would be crucial to the nation's future.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/howard...

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U.S. General Abizaid Says 'Of Course It's About Oil'
Oct 16 2007 http://tinyurl.com/8euvsca
Retired General John Abizaid, the former CENTCOM Commander, said on Saturday about the Iraq war that, "Of course it's about oil, we can't really deny that." More from Matt at Think Progress:
Abizaid has previously argued that the U.S. would need "to keep a long-term military presence in Iraq" in order to protect "the free flow of goods and resources" such as oil, but his Stanford comments go much further in pinning oil as a prime motivator for the war.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/10/16/headli...

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#179254 Nov 13, 2013
Jacqves,
I take no delight in the death of any man.
However, in the Inhofe the Younger's case I will not lose a wink of sleep.
He had no business flying that jet. The man was incompetent and he proved it in flying colors.
loose
WhiteCollarCrime

Edison, NJ

#179255 Nov 13, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't mean that, except the part about the crooked, dishonest,criminal, lying dirtbag dems in the government.
Funneled what money from the poor? They don't pay any money.
Me thinks you're seen too many Oliver Stone movies.
8 years of Bush/Cheney crimes were swept under the rug by Obama who continued most of them.

You should love Obama for protecting Bush/Cheney and Wall Street.

Sad, but true!

Did America win the war on poverty?

Did America win the war on alcohol?

Did America win the war on drugs?

Did America win the war on gambling?

Did America win the war on prostitution?

Did America win the war on crime?

Did America win the war on evil?

Did America win the war on terrorism?

I THINK NOT! SMARTEN UP!

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#179256 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques,
I will not grieve for the Inhofe's of the world no matter what, when or how.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#179257 Nov 13, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, only because Russia pulled the carpet from under Obama's feet!!!
Bwahahahahahahahaha! It is called diplomacy. I realize that you never worked on station but getting others to do your heavy lifting is exactly what that entails.
Blame who? The Insurance companies? WHY, because nuns do not need pregnancy care or child dental care?
ObamaCare is a bad law!!!
Not according to those who had none and can now obtain it.

Nuns? Fine, if you want to discuss people who comprise a sliver of the nation's population, go for it. I can counter with millions who were precluded from healthcare coverage due to genetic predisposition or a pre-existing condition. You choose to protect nuns and I demand that those with cancer, cardiac issues, hereditary diseases and anomalies have health care coverage.

I had a relative who was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. MS is a brutal disease - it wastes the body and resources. When her husband's health care limits were reached, she was cast aside - her family forced to pay for the next eight years of her life. The couple were forced to sell their home and move in with one of their children because they could not pay mortgage and tax bills. She died and left him broke and broken hearted.

Your answer is to whine. I choose to care.

For the record, I have not yet seen a credible news story involving nuns being forced to accept such coverage. Still, my insurance plan covers eye care even though I have 20/15 vision. Just because it is there doesn't mean I am required to use it.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179258 Nov 13, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
I will not grieve for the Inhofe's of the world no matter what, when or how.
Nobody's asking you to grieve, but why are you dancing on his grave? Was he a criminal?

As to feathering the prop, you're right, you don't know aviation. Maybe Rogue can answer you, I can't. But the guy was not only a licenced twin-engine pilot, he was a flight instructor. Do you know for a fact that he did not effect feathering, or that he tried and failed as the engine spooled or something, maybe?

The way you talk about this guy getting his "just desserts", one would think he was Hitler's son or something. And you're an ER doctor? I guess, if he had lived and brought to your ER, you would've skirted your Hippocratic Oath and refused to tend to him. Bravo.

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