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Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#179153 Nov 12, 2013
Pakistani Nuclear Warheads, Weapon Devices
21st August 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/l3b24m9
Pakistan, very rapidly, established its own uranium enrichment capability and was, reportedly, able to produce highly-enriched uranium by 1986. This progress was so rapid that international suspicion was raised as to whether it had had outside assistance. It was reported that Chinese technicians had been at the facility in the early 1980s, but suspicions soon fell on Dr. A.Q. Khan's activities at URENCO. In 1983, he was sentenced in absentia to four years in prison by an Amsterdam court for attempted espionage, although the sentence was later overturned on appeal on a legal technicality. Dr. A.Q. Khan rejected any suggestion that Pakistan had illicitly acquired nuclear expertise: "All the research work [at Kahuta] was the result of our innovation and struggle," he told a group of Pakistani librarians in 1990. "We did not receive any technical know-how from abroad, but we cannot reject the use of books, magazines, and research papers in this connection."
In 1987, a British newspaper reported that Dr. A.Q. Khan had openly confirmed Pakistan's acquisition of a nuclear weapons capability. It was after western agencies realized the scale of the developmet that all formal aid to Pakistan was suspended in the early 1990s. It was quoted as confirming that the U.S. intelligence report "about our possessing the [nuclear] bomb is correct and so is speculation of some foreign newspapers" and criticised Pakistan's detractors, who had "told the U.S. that Pakistan could never produce the [nuclear] bomb and they now know we have done it." Dr. A.Q. Khan's statement was, subsequently, disavowed by the Government of Pakistan and Dr. A.Q. Khan, himself, initially, denied giving it, although, he, later, retracted his denial. The Pakistani newspaper Dawn reported in October 1991 that Dr. A.Q. Khan repeated his claim at a dinner meeting of businessmen and industrialists in Karachi, which "sent a wave of jubilation" through the audience.
http://hindustan.org/forum/archive/index.php/...
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#179154 Nov 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh Jacqueau, there are reports that Saudi Arabia is trying to acquire nukes from Pakistan! WHY? Because they know Obama will NOT protect them!!!
BBC Reported last week that there was a Pakistan/Saudi Arabia deal in the works but this source says .... maybe not. But Pakistan needs money and Saudi Arabia has plenty of that and money talks!!!
Analysts: Pakistan Unlikely To Transfer Nuclear Weapons, Know-how to Saudis
Nov. 11, 2013 - 02:48PM | By USMAN ANSARI
ISLAMABAD — Contrary to a Nov. 6 report by the BBC, analysts here do not believe Pakistan has an agreement to supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons.
Citing a range of named and unnamed sources, the report, by Mark Urban, the diplomatic and defense editor for the BBC’s flagship “Newsnight” program, claimed Saudi Arabia could acquire nuclear weapons from Pakistan if Iran obtained a nuclear capability.
A spokesman for Pakistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the report was “entirely baseless and mischievous,” and that “Pakistan’s nuclear program is purely for its own legitimate self-defense.”
He highlighted Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s US visit in October where “President Obama reiterated his confidence in Pakistan’s commitment and dedication to nuclear security and recognized that Pakistan is fully engaged with the international community on nuclear safety and security issues.”
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20131111/D...
The CIA provided a stream of accurate reports to the Reagan / Bush administration that Pakistan’s Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was making nuclear weapons-grade uranium throughout the 1980’s. Reagan / Bush did absolutely nothing to stop it because Pakistani ISI was helping Usama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and Taliban to oust the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Russians wanted to control Afghanistan for future oil and gas pipelines from the Caspian Sea Oil and Gas Region.

Now fast forward to October 2001, CIA questioned two senior Pakistani scientists Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and Chaudry Abdul Majid and they said Pro-Taliban feelings extend beyond the Pakistani Army, the ISI, it is right into Pakistan’s nuclear-weapons laboratories. Dr. A.Q. Khan confessed that he helped with the Pakistani government assistance, to sell nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. These Pakistani nuclear scientists have close ties to radical Islamic terrorists groups.

George “Ignorant Iraqi Oil” Bush did not do anything about Pakistan’s government selling nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. The CIA had 100% proof of this and George “Incompetent” Bush came out publicly with the truth on October 16, 2002, only 5 days after the Congress voted for Military Force against Iraq. Ignorant Bush also sold F-16 aircraft to Pakistan.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179155 Nov 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
No one can live with a nuclear Iran.
No nukes for non-secular nations. There isn't a need to expand on that sentence at all...ever.
Nuclear weapons are here. The only major force in the world that doesn't have em? Japan. The only nation that has experienced what they do.(Those were only atom bombs, nuclear bombs are way nastier) They aren't going away.
Iran is what the muslims want to be the epicenter of an Islamic nation. Islam rules their government. Islam defined by those who will be in power. These people have a burning desire for it all to be over. They would bring on their fabled "apocalypse" like it was their job.
So that whole "mutual destruction" defense can be thrown out the window. They think that is what is supposed to happen. They are warped serfs of a twisted, old testament god.
Israel certainly can't afford a nuclear Iran. These are the same people who look into Israel's television cameras talking about streets flowing with the blood of the Jews. They are fucking insane.
And I don't want to hear any "religion of peace" or "god is love" crap either. The people who are peaceful are never the people in charge. Devout people with nuclear weapons are a direct threat to the continued survival of mankind.
I don't care what percentage of which country is delusional. I care when the people making decisions wouldn't mind meeting their "maker". I mind when they look forward to the end, and are joyfully willing to make that decision for everyone.
Lunatics.
And thus the reason for pursuing talks with Iran. Beats the alternative, to wit, not talking.

If there are talks and they nonetheless secretely continue pushing their nuclear programme, OR, if there are no talks and they just continue their nuclear arms programme, what's the difference? Therefore, what is there to lose by holding talks? Who knows, we may buy 5, 10 years at which time the regime may have softened. Let the talks continue.
Socialismnow org

Rocky Hill, CT

#179156 Nov 12, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
The CIA provided a stream of accurate reports to the Reagan / Bush administration that Pakistan’s Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan was making nuclear weapons-grade uranium throughout the 1980’s. Reagan / Bush did absolutely nothing to stop it because Pakistani ISI was helping Usama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and Taliban to oust the Soviets out of Afghanistan. The Russians wanted to control Afghanistan for future oil and gas pipelines from the Caspian Sea Oil and Gas Region.
Now fast forward to October 2001, CIA questioned two senior Pakistani scientists Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood and Chaudry Abdul Majid and they said Pro-Taliban feelings extend beyond the Pakistani Army, the ISI, it is right into Pakistan’s nuclear-weapons laboratories. Dr. A.Q. Khan confessed that he helped with the Pakistani government assistance, to sell nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. These Pakistani nuclear scientists have close ties to radical Islamic terrorists groups.
George “Ignorant Iraqi Oil” Bush did not do anything about Pakistan’s government selling nuclear technology to Libya, North Korea, Iran, and Malaysia. The CIA had 100% proof of this and George “Incompetent” Bush came out publicly with the truth on October 16, 2002, only 5 days after the Congress voted for Military Force against Iraq. Ignorant Bush also sold F-16 aircraft to Pakistan.
Misguided much?
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#179157 Nov 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
No one can live with a nuclear Iran.
No nukes for non-secular nations. There isn't a need to expand on that sentence at all...ever.
Nuclear weapons are here. The only major force in the world that doesn't have em? Japan. The only nation that has experienced what they do.(Those were only atom bombs, nuclear bombs are way nastier) They aren't going away.
Iran is what the muslims want to be the epicenter of an Islamic nation. Islam rules their government. Islam defined by those who will be in power. These people have a burning desire for it all to be over. They would bring on their fabled "apocalypse" like it was their job.
So that whole "mutual destruction" defense can be thrown out the window. They think that is what is supposed to happen. They are warped serfs of a twisted, old testament god.
Israel certainly can't afford a nuclear Iran. These are the same people who look into Israel's television cameras talking about streets flowing with the blood of the Jews. They are fucking insane.
And I don't want to hear any "religion of peace" or "god is love" crap either. The people who are peaceful are never the people in charge. Devout people with nuclear weapons are a direct threat to the continued survival of mankind.
I don't care what percentage of which country is delusional. I care when the people making decisions wouldn't mind meeting their "maker". I mind when they look forward to the end, and are joyfully willing to make that decision for everyone.
Lunatics.
George W. Bush is someone who believes his polices opened the door for the Armageddon to take place sooner rather than later.

Rumsfeld even had bible verses written on bombs.

The Arab Spring was a direct result when Bush invaded Iraq.

The Japanese scientist can put together a Nuclear Bomb very quickly ( IN DAYS )even though they do not have one.

The NUKE Genie has been out of the bottle for many years and there is very little anyone can do about it.

Make no mistake scrutiny, the Ayatollahs in Iran and the Kings of Saudi Arabia along with Dumbya Bush have set the stage for Armageddon.

The Saudis want regime change in Syria because Iraq made Iran much stronger when the Shiites took over Iraq.

The Sunni/Shia thing is very strong and both hate Gods chosen people the Hebrews.

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Bush's Shocking Biblical Prophecy Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"
http://tinyurl.com/p5ktmv / 25 May 2009
Bush explained to French Pres. Chirac that the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Mid-East and must be defeated.
The revelation this month in GQ Magazine that Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary embellished top-secret wartime memos with quotations from the Bible prompts a question. Why did he believe he could influence President Bush by that means?
The answer may lie in an alarming story about George Bush's Christian millenarian beliefs that has yet to come to light.
In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/42966

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179158 Nov 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh Jacqueau, there are reports that Saudi Arabia is trying to acquire nukes from Pakistan! WHY? Because they know Obama will NOT protect them!!!
BBC Reported last week that there was a Pakistan/Saudi Arabia deal in the works but this source says .... maybe not. But Pakistan needs money and Saudi Arabia has plenty of that and money talks!!!
Analysts: Pakistan Unlikely To Transfer Nuclear Weapons, Know-how to Saudis
Nov. 11, 2013 - 02:48PM | By USMAN ANSARI
ISLAMABAD — Contrary to a Nov. 6 report by the BBC, analysts here do not believe Pakistan has an agreement to supply Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons.
Citing a range of named and unnamed sources, the report, by Mark Urban, the diplomatic and defense editor for the BBC’s flagship “Newsnight” program, claimed Saudi Arabia could acquire nuclear weapons from Pakistan if Iran obtained a nuclear capability.
A spokesman for Pakistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the report was “entirely baseless and mischievous,” and that “Pakistan’s nuclear program is purely for its own legitimate self-defense.”
He highlighted Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s US visit in October where “President Obama reiterated his confidence in Pakistan’s commitment and dedication to nuclear security and recognized that Pakistan is fully engaged with the international community on nuclear safety and security issues.”
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20131111/D...
Saudi Arabia, nukes, no protection from the U.S.? Are you totally out of your senses again?

Won't protect it ? What about bowing to Saudi Arabia and getting involved in the Gulf War? They were next. How about again bowing to S. Arabia and invading Kuwait? Won't protect it? Come again6

And is Saudi Arabia not the faithful ally that continues to funnel funds to Al Qaeda and the Taliban? Is Saudi Arabia not the trusted ally that had SIXTEEN (16) out of EIGHTEEN (18) terrorists on board those 4 jets on 9/11 and 2 days after blackmailed GWB into letting hundreds of Saudis fly out of the U.S. even though there was a total interdiction on flying?

You're going to bat for those people, the very same people who are using YOUR dollars to finance terrorists and to acquire nuclear weapons which, and don't kid yourself, is a regime much more Islamist and extremist than Iran. Women can drive in Iran, women don't have to hide themselves from head to toe in Iran, etc.

Wake up and smell the turnips, Rogue.
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#179159 Nov 12, 2013
Socialismnow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Misguided much?
What I have forgotten, you have not even learned yet!

LOL

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God told me to invade, says Bush
LONDON October 7, 2005
US PRESIDENT George Bush has said that he was instructed by God to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a new BBC series.
The claim comes from the first meeting between the US leader, the Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas (also known as Abu Mazen), and his then foreign minister in June 2003./ http://tinyurl.com/b4zdw
The ministers say that Mr Bush also revealed to them that he had been told by God to create a Palestinian state.
Former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath, now the Information Minister, describes the meeting with the US leader, in the BBC2 program, Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs.
He says: "President Bush said to all of us:'I'm driven with a mission from God'.
"God would tell me,'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did, and then God would tell me,'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ...' And I did.
"And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me,'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'.
"And by God I'm gonna do it."
Mr Abbas, who was also at the meeting in the Egyptian resort of Sharm al-Sheikh, recounts how the President told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation.
"So I will get you a Palestinian state."
http://www.theage.com.au/news/iraq/god-told-m...

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Bush: God told me to invade Iraq
President 'revealed reasons for war in private meeting'
07 October 2005 / http://tinyurl.com/b5tkd
President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden's stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, security for Israel, and a state for the Palestinians.
The President made the assertion during his first meeting with Palestinian leaders in June 2003, according to a BBC series which will be broadcast this month.
In the programme Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, which starts on Monday, the former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: "I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me,'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me,'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."
And "now again", Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, "I feel God's words coming to me:'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.' And by God, I'm gonna do it."
Mr Abbas remembers how the US President told him he had a "moral and religious obligation" to act. The White House has refused to comment on what it terms a private conversation. But the BBC account is anything but implausible, given how throughout his presidency Mr Bush, a born-again Christian, has never hidden the importance of his faith.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressrelease...
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#179160 Nov 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
No one can live with a nuclear Iran.
No nukes for non-secular nations. There isn't a need to expand on that sentence at all...ever.
Nuclear weapons are here. The only major force in the world that doesn't have em? Japan. The only nation that has experienced what they do.(Those were only atom bombs, nuclear bombs are way nastier) They aren't going away.
Iran is what the muslims want to be the epicenter of an Islamic nation. Islam rules their government. Islam defined by those who will be in power. These people have a burning desire for it all to be over. They would bring on their fabled "apocalypse" like it was their job.
So that whole "mutual destruction" defense can be thrown out the window. They think that is what is supposed to happen. They are warped serfs of a twisted, old testament god.
Israel certainly can't afford a nuclear Iran. These are the same people who look into Israel's television cameras talking about streets flowing with the blood of the Jews. They are fucking insane.
And I don't want to hear any "religion of peace" or "god is love" crap either. The people who are peaceful are never the people in charge. Devout people with nuclear weapons are a direct threat to the continued survival of mankind.
I don't care what percentage of which country is delusional. I care when the people making decisions wouldn't mind meeting their "maker". I mind when they look forward to the end, and are joyfully willing to make that decision for everyone.
Lunatics.
Pakistan: "The Taliban's Godfather"?
Documents Detail Years of Pakistani Support for Taliban, Extremists
Covert Policy Linked Taliban, Kashmiri Militants, Pakistan's Pashtun Troops
Aid Encouraged Pro-Taliban Sympathies in Troubled Border Region
http://tinyurl.com/yrywcx
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB227...

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The intifada started in Genesis 16:12

And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

ISHMAEL IS THE FOUNDER OF Jebusites, Canaanites, Amorites, Philistines, Hivites, Hittites, Midianites, Amalekites, Egyptians, Chaldeans, Babylonians, Arabs, Medes and Persians.

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Genesis 15:18-21
18 On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said,“To your descendants I give this land, from the river&#65279; of Egypt to the great river the Euphrates 19 the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, 20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, 21 Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.”

Joshua 1:4
4 Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates all the Hittite country to the Great Sea&#65279; That is, the Mediterranean on the west..

In regards to the land that God has promised Israel, Genesis 15:18 declares, "To your descendants [Abraham's] I give this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates." God later confirms this promise to Abraham's son Isaac, and Isaac's son Jacob (whose name was later changed to Israel). When the Israelites were about to invade the Promised Land, God reiterated the land promise, as recorded in Joshua 1:4, "Your territory will extend from the desert to Lebanon, and from the great river, the Euphrates — all the Hittite country — to the Great Sea on the west."

With Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4 in mind, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile river in Egypt to Lebanon (North to South) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (West to East). So, what land has God stated belongs to Israel? All of the land modern Israel currently possesses, plus all of the land of the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#179161 Nov 12, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Good try, but no cigar!!
As a sovereign nation we made the decision as to who would be citizens of the US, they are those born/naturalized here and subject only to the jurisdiction, thereof.
As a sovereign nation we did indeed make a decision as to who would be citizens, and who would be Natural Born Citizens, and Bingham and Rawle and ten appeals courts all say the same thing about the definition of Natural Born. It includes EVERY child born in the USA regardless of the citizenship of the parents, regardless of whether the child was a dual citizen at birth (or even a dual citizen when eligible to be president);;

"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."---William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed.(1829)

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#179163 Nov 12, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
The whole point of the negotiations with Iran on its nuclear intentions is to keep the Ayatollahs from acquiring nuclear weapons. Do you see anything wrong with that? And the whole international community is in on those negotiations. It's not a Chamberlain thing, as Iran has not invaded anyone yet, far as I know. As a matter of fact, which country has Iran invaded in the last 1000 years? Like Rogue, you prefer that Iran continue its nuclear warheads development. Israel is NOT going to be nuked by Iran. Its leaders are strong on dying for Islam except...when it comes to them. Any strike on Tel Aviv would result in a total annihilation of Iran by Israel which, in case you don't know, has over 100 nuclear warheads. And, just like Iran, they don't even need unmanned missiles to launch them, being so close. A nice Mig 29 or F-16 will do just fine, thank you.
As to me being safe from nuclear strikes, well, no one is. Not Israel nor any other country. ICBMs have seen to that.
I'm of the mindset that we cannot trust the Iranians at all. The more complicated side of this is I know the United States cannot be trusted either because we have a liar running the country. Just ask any of the 5 million who have lost or are losing their health insurance. That is why character matters.
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#179164 Nov 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
No one can live with a nuclear Iran.
No nukes for non-secular nations. There isn't a need to expand on that sentence at all...ever.
Nuclear weapons are here. The only major force in the world that doesn't have em? Japan. The only nation that has experienced what they do.(Those were only atom bombs, nuclear bombs are way nastier) They aren't going away.
Iran is what the muslims want to be the epicenter of an Islamic nation. Islam rules their government. Islam defined by those who will be in power. These people have a burning desire for it all to be over. They would bring on their fabled "apocalypse" like it was their job.
So that whole "mutual destruction" defense can be thrown out the window. They think that is what is supposed to happen. They are warped serfs of a twisted, old testament god.
Israel certainly can't afford a nuclear Iran. These are the same people who look into Israel's television cameras talking about streets flowing with the blood of the Jews. They are fucking insane.
And I don't want to hear any "religion of peace" or "god is love" crap either. The people who are peaceful are never the people in charge. Devout people with nuclear weapons are a direct threat to the continued survival of mankind.
I don't care what percentage of which country is delusional. I care when the people making decisions wouldn't mind meeting their "maker". I mind when they look forward to the end, and are joyfully willing to make that decision for everyone.
Lunatics.
Very direct and to the point. I couldn't agree more.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179165 Nov 12, 2013
hope this works, she is a pearl. For Libtards (Rogue tm reg'd) only.

http://www.flixxy.com/9-year-old-girl-sings-o...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179167 Nov 12, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
George W. Bush is someone who believes his polices opened the door for the Armageddon to take place sooner rather than later.
Rumsfeld even had bible verses written on bombs.
The Arab Spring was a direct result when Bush invaded Iraq.
The Japanese scientist can put together a Nuclear Bomb very quickly ( IN DAYS )even though they do not have one.
The NUKE Genie has been out of the bottle for many years and there is very little anyone can do about it.
Make no mistake scrutiny, the Ayatollahs in Iran and the Kings of Saudi Arabia along with Dumbya Bush have set the stage for Armageddon.
The Saudis want regime change in Syria because Iraq made Iran much stronger when the Shiites took over Iraq.
The Sunni/Shia thing is very strong and both hate Gods chosen people the Hebrews.
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Bush's Shocking Biblical Prophecy Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"
http://tinyurl.com/p5ktmv / 25 May 2009
Bush explained to French Pres. Chirac that the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Mid-East and must be defeated.
The revelation this month in GQ Magazine that Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary embellished top-secret wartime memos with quotations from the Bible prompts a question. Why did he believe he could influence President Bush by that means?
The answer may lie in an alarming story about George Bush's Christian millenarian beliefs that has yet to come to light.
In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/42966
I'll bet Chirac was impressed !

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179168 Nov 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm of the mindset that we cannot trust the Iranians at all. The more complicated side of this is I know the United States cannot be trusted either because we have a liar running the country. Just ask any of the 5 million who have lost or are losing their health insurance. That is why character matters.
Harsh words, those. You really mean them?

What matters whether Iran can be trusted or not? As I opined to Scrutiny, what if they keep building their bomb while "negotiating" OR build their bomb with no negotiations? Result? The same. So, what's wrong with taking a risk, negotiating and see how it comes out. Intelligent, aware diplomacy will beat diplomacy any time.

To call your president a liar because 5 million our of 310 million will not keep their insurance? Even though Obamacare may offer, not in all cases, no, but in many cases, better insurance coverage? And, this plan is complex. Do you honestly think that Obama, the president, who has other things to administrate, SAW in the obamacare implementation that 5% would not keep their plans as promised , he SAW that and made that promise nonetheless knowing he'd eventually be found out? As I said earlier, are you gonna call the weatherman a liar if tomorrow's promised sun turns into rain?

In international treaties, no nation, including the U.S.A., can be trusted when its national interests are at stake. But, having said that, I would trust the U.S. before trusting Iran. That is why negotiations must be driven from a position of strength and, yes,...compromise. There is no diplomacy without compromise. When it's over, both sides have to have won. There must be no losers.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#179169 Nov 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oregon’s one weird trick to destroy Obamacare
Written by David Freddoso. Posted in 2014 Campaigns, Yep, This Happened
CaptureThere’s been much talk about how the Obamacare exchanges need to attract enough young and healthy people to survive. If a disproportionately old, sick and expensive crowd signs up in any given state, premiums will skyrocket for 2015.
So as you can guess, this move by Oregon — whose exchange doesn’t work but has awesome, freaky television ads — is especially brilliant. Let’s fast-track the sick people while the healthy ones aren’t signing up:
- See more at: http://www.conservativeintel.com/2013/11/07/o...
Oregon is the home of many lost hippies,especially the ones that don't remember the 60's. The star of 'Portlandia' used to play the Obama on SNL.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179170 Nov 12, 2013
I had never seen this interview,( in two parts).

If you don't like one-sided massacres, slaughters, don't watch this. Bill Clinton KO's poor Chris Wallace to a pulp. Superior inteliigence pitted against Fox Murdoch right-wing prejudice. Just not fair, no contest.

I love it when Clinton tells him right in his Foz face that Fox has asked him, Clinton, more questions on Bin Laden, 9/11 and Afghanistan than they ever did GWB or his flunkies. Anyways, here they are, and it my link doesn't work, just google "Chris Wallace Fox interviews with Clinton,2006). But birthers won't do that, now will they?

Search Results

Bill Clinton Kicks the Crap out of Fox News Part 1 - YouTube

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www.youtube.com/watch... ;

Sep 24, 2006 - Uploaded by prezjackie
Clinton agreed to a 15 minute one-on-one interview with Fox News only on the condition ... Bill Clinton ...

Bill Clinton on Fox News Sunday (Part 2 of 3)- YouTube

&#9658; 8:29&#9658; 8:29

www.youtube.com/watch... ;

Sep 24, 2006 - Uploaded by orbusmax
Statistics Report. Uploaded on Sep 24, 2006. Chris Wallace interviewing Former President
Frank

Spokane, WA

#179171 Nov 12, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
You have never heard the term 'Revolving Door'?
Politics 101: Listen Up!
Cheney was in government all of his life.
Then, became the CEO of Halliburton and then back to government as Vice President of the USA.
This is called Conflict of Interest IMO.
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DON’T BAIL OUT WALL STREET CROOKS
Sen. Bernie Sanders, Robert Scheer and Dean Baker on the Proposed $700 Billion Bailout of Wall Street, the Largest Government Bailout of Private Industry in US History / September 22, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/3j789r
It’s being described as the largest government intervention in private markets since the Great Depression. The Bush administration has asked Congress to swiftly approve a massive $700 billion package to rescue the crippled financial institutions on Wall Street. Some analysts say the final cost to taxpayers could top one trillion dollars. Over the weekend, the size of the proposed bailout grew as the Bush administration said foreign banks, including Barclays and UBS, should be eligible for the bailout.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/22/sen_ber...
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BAD MONEY: RECKLESS FINANCE, FAILED POLITICS, AND THE GLOBAL CRISIS OF AMERICAN CAPITALISM
September 19, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/4lkyle
BILL MOYERS: If you read only one book on the route to this financial meltdown, I recommend this one: BAD MONEY: RECKLESS FINANCE, FAILED POLITICS, AND THE GLOBAL CRISIS OF AMERICAN CAPITALISM. The author, Kevin Phillips, has a history of being way ahead of the curve. As a young man working for Richard Nixon, he wrote THE EMERGING REPUBLICAN MAJORITY, a book that uncannily predicted how the GOP would regain power in Washington. Kevin Phillips saw our current crisis coming a long time ago. And in one book of historical insight after another, laid out the clues he was tracking. As recently as last spring in the AMERICAN PROSPECT magazine, Phillips wrote that what he thought was about to happen would be "unusual and potentially tragic."
In the preface of his book, he has written that these things usually come to fruition in August and September. And sure enough, here we are coping in September with the effects of bad money. Kevin, it's good to see you again.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09192008/wa...
If we used ethical standards to determine who would be working for the White House, Obama would have no one there. He is the most corrupt occupant of The White House,ever. The Obama administration is the text book example of cronyism.

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#179172 Nov 12, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
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George W. Bush is someone who believes his polices opened the door for the Armageddon to take place sooner rather than later.
Rumsfeld even had bible verses written on bombs.
The Arab Spring was a direct result when Bush invaded Iraq.
The Japanese scientist can put together a Nuclear Bomb very quickly ( IN DAYS )even though they do not have one.
The NUKE Genie has been out of the bottle for many years and there is very little anyone can do about it.
Make no mistake scrutiny, the Ayatollahs in Iran and the Kings of Saudi Arabia along with Dumbya Bush have set the stage for Armageddon.
The Saudis want regime change in Syria because Iraq made Iran much stronger when the Shiites took over Iraq.
The Sunni/Shia thing is very strong and both hate Gods chosen people the Hebrews.
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Bush's Shocking Biblical Prophecy Emerges: God Wants to "Erase" Mid-East Enemies "Before a New Age Begins"
http://tinyurl.com/p5ktmv / 25 May 2009
Bush explained to French Pres. Chirac that the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Mid-East and must be defeated.
The revelation this month in GQ Magazine that Donald Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary embellished top-secret wartime memos with quotations from the Bible prompts a question. Why did he believe he could influence President Bush by that means?
The answer may lie in an alarming story about George Bush's Christian millenarian beliefs that has yet to come to light.
In 2003 while lobbying leaders to put together the Coalition of the Willing, President Bush spoke to France's President Jacques Chirac. Bush wove a story about how the Biblical creatures Gog and Magog were at work in the Middle East and how they must be defeated. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/42966
Do you believe in UFOs? I do and I know what they are. They are ... Unidentified Flying Objects .... and I have see some. "WTF was that?"

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179173 Nov 12, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>If we used ethical standards to determine who would be working for the White House, Obama would have no one there. He is the most corrupt occupant of The White House,ever. The Obama administration is the text book example of cronyism.
Whose ethical standards? Birthers'? Yours? If for just a moment you put YOUR "Obama" hate aside, you'd probably want to rethink your ridiculous, unfounded and unproven birther statements such as "He is the most corrupt occupant of The White House, ever. The Obama administration is the text book example of cronyism." Truly childish, puerile, infantile, can't find the right word. Oh,there it is : BIRTHER.

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#179175 Nov 12, 2013
I saw this on Fox News this morning. A WHITE guy running for office in a black district in Houston, TX has some brochures printed that only shows black people and the black people voted for him thinking he was black.
And you call white conservatives racists?!?

White Man Pretends to be Black to Win Election!
By Onan Coca / 12 November 2013

Read more at http://eaglerising.com/2850/white-man-pretend...

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