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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
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Too bad she never said those words. That is the very definition of bullshyt
Do you know what to "paraphrase" something means? How about "quibbling"?
Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It"
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I like puss. You should have tried it before you went queer.
I went to my psychiatrist and told her I think I am actually a woman trapped inside a man's body and she asked me why I thought so and I told her every time I see a good looking woman, my tongue gets hard and sticks out.
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One day I was talking to my psychiatrist and she asked me if I smoked after sex and I told her, "Not that I noticed"!
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There is noting in the 14th Amendment that says that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be citizens or that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be Natural Born US Citizens. This is what Bingham, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
It seems that by 1869 he had changed his mind from what he said in 1866.
And here is what the author of the citizenship clause Senator Lyman Trumball said:
“By the terms of the Constitution he must have been a citizen of the United States for nine years before he could take a seat here, and seven years before he could take a seat in the other House ; and, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a native-born citizen. It is the common law of this country, and of all countries, and it was unnecessary to incorporate it in the Constitution, that a person is a citizen of the country in which he is born…. I read from Paschal's Annotated Constitution, note 274:‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together.’ Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country as well as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are, in theory, born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons.”—Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. 575 (1872)
LMAO!!! You still have show me how aliens and foreigners are born in the US.
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The wrinkles!
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There is noting in the 14th Amendment that says that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be citizens or that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be Natural Born US Citizens. This is what Bingham, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
It seems that by 1869 he had changed his mind from what he said in 1866.
And here is what the author of the citizenship clause Senator Lyman Trumball said:
“By the terms of the Constitution he must have been a citizen of the United States for nine years before he could take a seat here, and seven years before he could take a seat in the other House ; and, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a native-born citizen. It is the common law of this country, and of all countries, and it was unnecessary to incorporate it in the Constitution, that a person is a citizen of the country in which he is born…. I read from Paschal's Annotated Constitution, note 274:‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together.’ Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country as well as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are, in theory, born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons.”—Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. 575 (1872)
LMAO!!! It really doesn't matter what either Bingham or Trumball stated after the ratification of the 14th amendment in 1868, it is now Constitutional Law or would you like to change that fact.

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From L.A.Times. LMAO!
"We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad," Barack Obama. WTF?
ROTF!!!
So, we aren't supposed to discuss the past when it pertains to Bush's mistakes but it's okay to do it with President Obama, huh?

That Republicant duplicity is legendary.

How many books, articles and blogs are dedicated to George W. Bush making verbal blunders?

Some of my favorites:

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease."
--Yes, he was our President at the time; in Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." --at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." -Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

"I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." --Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001

"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a -- you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." --Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

"The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007

"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." --as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War

"Do you have blacks, too?" --to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

"I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound largemouth bass in my lake." --on his best moment in office, interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, May 7, 2006

"They misunderestimated me." --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

"People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

"You work three jobs?... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

But of all of them, and there are many, many more, this is my all time favorite (no, it is not the Mission Accomplished speech)

"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." --Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008

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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
Tell us, Rogue. What kind of health plan do YOU have? Is it the same kind of plan as those 55 million Americans who, before Obamacare, had NO health plan? Why is yours so much better than the average citizen who has not served in the military? Were you physically OR psychologically injured?

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Fox News flash. The number of Americans who have lost their health care plans is now ..... 4.2 Million!
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No, it was not on Fox, it was on Fox News. You do know there is a difference, don't you? Fox is the comedy channel you Libtards watch The Simpsons and the Family Guy on.
Actually, I watch the American Forces Radio and Television Service shows.

Making those distinctions is pathetic, even for a Republicant.

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Two points. Iran-Contra happened over twenty years ago.
Next, as usual your links did not work.
And you should change your name to "Oldrealnews"
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There you go again. Do you knot know what "over" twenty years means? BTW, Iran-Contra was from 1985 until 1987 which is LESS THAN thirty years ago which means I am more correct than you are.
Nanny nanny boo boo!
Closer to 30 than 20 (1985 is 28 years, sonny). Reagan came in in 2000, when the Iran-Contra thing developed. That makes it 33 years. AND yet, that doesn`t keep you from taking shots at Carter, which is WAY OVER 30 years.

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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
Since you attempted to point out that there is a difference between Fox and Fox News, I offer this:

Nancy Pelosi did not say those words. This is her exact quote.

"You’ve heard about the controversies within the bill, the process about the bill, one or the other. But I don’t know if you have heard that it is legislation for the future, not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America, where preventive care is not something that you have to pay a deductible for or out of pocket. Prevention, prevention, prevention—it’s about diet, not diabetes. It’s going to be very, very exciting.

We have to pass the bill, so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy."

The next day, she reminded America that until the bill is passed, doubters cannot debunk it.

If it fails, it will be far less catastrophic than George W. Bush deregulating the finance industry or starting a war that was not needed.

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Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
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Do you know what to "paraphrase" something means? How about "quibbling"?
Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hV-05TLiiLUXX
You have no idea what "paraphrasing" means, do you?
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What!!!! Punish a Liberal for lying? How could they?!?
Why they should promote him to the state supreme court!!!

Stephen Glass finds tough audience at California Supreme Court

Stephen Glass

Stephen Glass, shown in 2003, faced skepticism from California Supreme Court justices Wednesday about whether he should be able to practice law. In the 1990s he was found to have fabricated a number of articles for national magazines.(CBS)
By Maura Dolan

November 6, 2013, 11:58 a.m.

SACRAMENTO -- The California Supreme Court appeared unwilling Wednesday to grant a law license to a former journalist who fabricated stories for national magazines but now says he is steadfastly honest.

During a hearing in Sacramento, several justices of the state high court indicated they were not convinced that Stephen Glass, 41, who concocted articles for the New Republic and other magazines in the mid-1990s, had shown enough evidence of rehabilitation to be permitted to practice law.

Justice Joyce L. Kennard spoke at length of articles that Glass had fabricated and the importance of honesty in the law.

Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye observed that Glass was involved in a “a depth of deception that was pretty sophisticated.”

Justice Marvin Baxter noted that Glass’ prior conduct was not an isolated incident, but a pattern “over a long period of time.”

Justice Ming W. Chin said Glass had benefited from his misconduct by earning money from a novel he wrote about his experience.

As the court’s leanings became increasingly clear, Glass appeared to slump in his chair. Dressed in a suit and tie, he was seated near the front of the ornate courtroom next to his fiancee. He declined to comment afterward and left the courthouse alone with his girlfriend, his hands in his pockets and his head down.

Glass wrote 42 magazine stories that were wholly or partially fabricated before he was caught in 1998. He was in his mid-20s. He made up phony notes, a fictional website, fake business cards and bogus voice-mail messages to try to cover up his fabrications.

After leaving journalism in disgrace, Glass graduated from Georgetown Law School and applied for admission to the New York bar but withdrew that application after learning he would be rejected on moral grounds. He eventually moved to California, settling in Los Angeles, and landed a job at a personal injury law firm.

The California bar denied Glass a law license in 2009, but a state bar court approved him for admission after a 10-day confidential bar trial. A bar committee in charge of admissions appealed, and a bar appeals court also ruled for him. The bar committee then asked the California Supreme Court to deny him a license.

The Supreme Court is to rule on Glass’ case within 90 days.

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Rogue News Flash :
The number of Americans who have gained a health plan is now : 55 million.
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Ah, two points here AGAIN. First Obama was talking about Heath INSURANCE and Medicaid is NOT insurance on any kind but a form of .... welfare.
Next, this is the sign-up season and ObamaCare does not start until JANUARY FIRST 2014 so no one was gained anything!!!
Double Douche.
U.K. ALL have universal health care. Population :+ or -60 million. ALL on welfare according to Rogue;

France : ALL have universal health care. Population :+ or - 60 million. ALL on welfare according to Rogue;

Germany : ALL have universal health care. Population :+ or - 85 million. ALL on welfare according to Rogue;

Italy : ALL have universal health care. Population :+ or - 60 million. ALL on welfare according to Rogue;

Rest of Europe, millions of citizens, ALL have universal health care. ALL on welfare according to Rogue;

Japan : ALL have universal health care. Population : 110 million. ALL on welfare according to Rogue.

Australia and New Zealand, plus Singapore and a host of others : ALL have universal health care. Population : about 35 million. ALL on welfare according to Rogue;

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Yes, Rogue, you're an aviator, which makes you an expert in ALL fields, and perfectly branding hundreds of millions of citizens benefitting from Universal Health care as WELFARE RECIPIENTS. BRAVO, Rogue.

As to sign-up, informatics are all screwed up for now. But they'll fix it eventually, it'll work. What will you then have to say?

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What!!!! Punish a Liberal for lying? How could they?!?
Why they should promote him to the state supreme court!!!
Stephen Glass finds tough audience at California Supreme Court
Stephen Glass
Stephen Glass, shown in 2003, faced skepticism from California Supreme Court justices Wednesday about whether he should be able to practice law. In the 1990s he was found to have fabricated a number of articles for national magazines.(CBS)
By Maura Dolan
November 6, 2013, 11:58 a.m.
SACRAMENTO -- The California Supreme Court appeared unwilling Wednesday to grant a law license to a former journalist who fabricated stories for national magazines but now says he is steadfastly honest.
During a hearing in Sacramento, several justices of the state high court indicated they were not convinced that Stephen Glass, 41, who concocted articles for the New Republic and other magazines in the mid-1990s, had shown enough evidence of rehabilitation to be permitted to practice law.
Justice Joyce L. Kennard spoke at length of articles that Glass had fabricated and the importance of honesty in the law.
Chief Justice Tani Cantil-Sakauye observed that Glass was involved in a “a depth of deception that was pretty sophisticated.”
Justice Marvin Baxter noted that Glass’ prior conduct was not an isolated incident, but a pattern “over a long period of time.”
Justice Ming W. Chin said Glass had benefited from his misconduct by earning money from a novel he wrote about his experience.
As the court’s leanings became increasingly clear, Glass appeared to slump in his chair. Dressed in a suit and tie, he was seated near the front of the ornate courtroom next to his fiancee. He declined to comment afterward and left the courthouse alone with his girlfriend, his hands in his pockets and his head down.
Glass wrote 42 magazine stories that were wholly or partially fabricated before he was caught in 1998. He was in his mid-20s. He made up phony notes, a fictional website, fake business cards and bogus voice-mail messages to try to cover up his fabrications.
After leaving journalism in disgrace, Glass graduated from Georgetown Law School and applied for admission to the New York bar but withdrew that application after learning he would be rejected on moral grounds. He eventually moved to California, settling in Los Angeles, and landed a job at a personal injury law firm.
The California bar denied Glass a law license in 2009, but a state bar court approved him for admission after a 10-day confidential bar trial. A bar committee in charge of admissions appealed, and a bar appeals court also ruled for him. The bar committee then asked the California Supreme Court to deny him a license.
The Supreme Court is to rule on Glass’ case within 90 days.
So, the Supreme Court has yet to rule. Then, why all of the above? Or is it because you have the same inside information you possessed on the Supreme Court and its ruling on Obamacare? Remember how Roberts had already decided, the moment he got the Obamacare docket, to nix it? Oh, I see, your inside info WAS correct, but Justice ha ha, omg, ha ha, LRS came to the rescue and STATED that Obama bought off Roberts. Don't stop now, Rogue, we all need laughs.

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Can you explain, once again, exactly what Reagan what to do with Iran-Contra?
Reagan ordered his staff if they knew anything about Iran-Contra to come forward and cooperate with Congress!
And what has Obama done about Benghazi? Just the opposite what Reagan did about Iran-Contra!!! Yep, a real contrast.
Yep, Obama's administration is like the three monkeys; See no Obama, Speak no Obama, Hear no Obama!!!
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1. Oh, I didn't know that Iran-Contra did not happen under Reagan's watch. Sorry ;
2. And what did Reagan have to say about Iran-Contra, which happened UNDER HIS WATCH? "Gee, I don't recall any of this...".May not be his fault, as it is said he Alzheimer had already set in. It did save him from a lot of embarrassment, though;
3. Who was punished for Iran-Contra? North? Nope. Pardoned. Who else?;
4. You consider Benhgazi in the same league as SUPPLYING Iran with arms AFTER the embassy kidnappings? Really? ;
5. As to Obama's and Sec Clinton's statements post-Iran, please state the exact lies that both told. Also state what the State dept and the CIA told them immediately after the attack on the consulate/cultural centre.
What did Obama have to do with the Sandy Hook massacre? Not a damn thing!!! But you blame Reagan for ANYTHING that happened while he was president. Again, you can not show proof that he had any prior knowledge or approved of Iran-Contra because he had none.
Sure, Oliver North's conviction was over turned on appeal only because the DEMOCRAT controlled House blew it. But how about the others who WERE punished???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Con...
AGAIN, Reagan ORDERED his people to testify about Iran-Contra whereas Obama is preventing people from testifying!!!
And you are a flaming bigot and can't see that you are one.

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Yes, Rogue, you're an aviator, which makes you an expert in ALL fields, and perfectly branding hundreds of millions of citizens benefitting from Universal Health care as WELFARE RECIPIENTS. BRAVO, Rogue.
As to sign-up, informatics are all screwed up for now. But they'll fix it eventually, it'll work. What will you then have to say?
And you are not an aviator but you think you know more about aviation than I do!!!
And I did not say everyone receiving socialized medicine is on welfare. Only those who do not pay taxes are on welfare!!!
As for me, I payed in advance for my health care. In just four years my my copay for my medications have gone from $4 per med. per month to $17. In otherwise I pay $1,020 per year when I used to pay only $240. Has inflation gone up 425% in just four years? Now, how much are welfare people paying for their meds? Remember, I payed in advance for my medical care!!!
Oh and that is just my meds and not my doctor/hospital copays!!!
What a bigot you are!!!

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Actually, I watch the American Forces Radio and Television Service shows.
Making those distinctions is pathetic, even for a Republicant.
One of my favourite newspapers was the Stars and Stripes. So surprising, its impartiality, and its total freedom to laud AND criticize the government. This is one of the jewels that you Americans have, the ability, the capacity, to allow an armed forces newspaper like the Stars and Stripes to freely print any story that, as I just wrote, praised or criticized the gov't. It had despatches from AP, Reuters, AFP, etc, some for, some con. and right and left-leaning columnists. I miss it.

It also had the greatest sports coverage and comics, Doonesbury even. Now, for a military newspaper to carry that, hats off, quite a feat.

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Oh, two years ago I paid out of pocket $125 for my FAA Class-3 medical exam. That is NOT covered under Tricare. My Flight Doc retired early this year and he is younger than I am because he did not want to deal with ObamaCare and now I am looking for another FAA Doctor as I will need another FAA physical next January and I bet it will cost me more than $125 too.

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Oh, I do not refer to Oliver North as "Colonel" as he lied to Congress. Again,the only reason why his conviction was overturned was because the Democrats gave him immunity and then after he testified truthfully before Congress they used that immunity testimony to convict him. He should never have been tried in the first place.
Yep, I do not put "Colonel" in front of Oliver North's name as he has disgraced his uniform!

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