BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: Jul 10

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#178475 Nov 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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There you go again channeling a man who died almost 150 years ago. Tell me, what do you think he would think of Obummer Boy?
I would "suspect" that he would have approved of Ronald Reagan and probably have Obummer Boy shot as a traitor.
So He would approve of Reagan you say skippy? The man who illegals sold arms to Iran, triples the US debt, gave amnesty to 3 million illegals and secretly armed Nicaraguan rebels without consent of Congress to start a civil war?

Keep dreaming

Since: Jul 10

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#178476 Nov 7, 2013
"illegally"
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178477 Nov 7, 2013

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???

A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".

That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178478 Nov 7, 2013
Forum wrote:
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So what bill gets to have Obamas
face?
LMAO!!! Three!
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178479 Nov 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Fox News flash. The number of Americans who have lost their health care plans is now ..... 4.2 Million!
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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Oh no...if it is on Fox it has to be true. LOL!
No, it was not on Fox, it was on Fox News. You do know there is a difference, don't you? Fox is the comedy channel you Libtards watch The Simpsons and the Family Guy on.
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178480 Nov 7, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
From L.A.Times. LMAO!
"We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad," Barack Obama. WTF?
ROTF!!!
Well, it was started by the Democrat President Lincoln, don't cha know?
And everyone know that Lincoln was Obama's Great-Great-Grandfather. Ya knows all those Democrat presidents had slaves and use to take liberties with the slave womens.
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178481 Nov 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Two points. Iran-Contra happened over twenty years ago.
Next, as usual your links did not work.
And you should change your name to "Oldrealnews"
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Yes, not 20 years ago, but more like 30, yet you keep harping back to Jimmy Carter, who harks BEFORE Iran-Contra. Go figure. I know you'll have no reply to that. Don't bother.
There you go again. Do you knot know what "over" twenty years means? BTW, Iran-Contra was from 1985 until 1987 which is LESS THAN thirty years ago which means I am more correct than you are.
Nanny nanny boo boo!

Since: Jul 10

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#178482 Nov 7, 2013
Owl Gore wrote:
Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
Too bad she never said those words. That is the very definition of bullshyt
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178483 Nov 7, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Rogue News Flash :
The number of Americans who have gained a health plan is now : 55 million.
Scrutiny wrote:
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Touche.
Ah, two points here AGAIN. First Obama was talking about Heath INSURANCE and Medicaid is NOT insurance on any kind but a form of .... welfare.
Next, this is the sign-up season and ObamaCare does not start until JANUARY FIRST 2014 so no one was gained anything!!!
Double Douche.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178484 Nov 7, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Ok, Dale.
I am going to show you why you are wrong... then I am putting it to bed. The whole argument is moot. Obama is here and will not depart till 2016.
The comma isn't nearly important as the phrase "...in my opinion".
The supreme court disagreed with his opinion.
Again, this was a speech. Not law. And LAW is all that matters in this whole spun out attempt to change reality.
1889 Wong Kim Ark is the LAW.
Born here = Citizenship And that is all there is. As posted in #178318.
LAW from 1889 trumps a speech from 1866 every time.
It doesn't matter who is subject to what and where comma's land in an old speech.
Maybe, someday... the Supreme Court will change it's mind. But that day is not today. And until that day comes...
Ark is the law. All else is bullshit.
I would be happy to discuss whether we think it is wrong or not. However, I don't see much of a point. There are lots of laws that individuals think are wrong or unfair.
What I won't do is pretend that a speech trumps SCOTUS. That is where we venture into play law. And the only thing I like less than play law, is play science.
I won't waste my time. However, I do think that you dug as hard as you could for something...anything that would make Obama's presidency seem illegitimate. And you did a better job than I could have. That was as obscure as it gets.
Well done.
LMAO!!! Nice try, but no cigar!
The Globe is the Official record of congress, what Howard said was accepted in it entirety and became the law of the land in 1868.
Oh, the USSC didn't even refer to his opinion, they chose to use English common law and discarded Constitutional Law.
In short the USSC violated the Constitution and violations of the Constitution does not make law or precedent.
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178485 Nov 7, 2013
Gotta love them Marines.

Years ago, a young Navy Pilot was severely injured while ejecting from his A-4 Skyhawk due to engine failure during a catapult shot from the aircraft carrier, but due to the heroics of rescue helicopter and the ship's hospital staff, the only permanent injury was the loss of one ear.
Since he was now physically impaired he did not remain on flight status but eventually became an Admiral. However, during his career, he was always sensitive about his appearance.
One day, the Admiral was interviewing two Navy Master Chiefs and a Marine Sergeant Major for his personal staff.
The first Master Chief was a Surface Navy-type, and it was a great interview. At the end of the interview, the Admiral asked him, "Do you notice anything different about me?" The Master Chief answered, "Why, yes, Admiral. I couldn't help but notice that you're missing your starboard ear, and I don't know whether this impacts your hearing on that side.
The Admiral got very angry at this lack of tact, and threw him out of his office
The next candidate, an Aviation Master Chief, when asked this same question, answered, "Well, yes, Sir. You seem to be short one ear." The Admiral threw him out, as well.
The third interview was with the Marine Sergeant Major. He was articulate, extremely sharp, and seemed to know more than the two Master Chiefs put together. The Admiral wanted this guy, but went ahead with the same question. "Do you notice anything different about me?"
To his surprise, the Sergeant Major said, "Yes, Sir. You wear contact lenses."
The Admiral was impressed, and thought to himself,'What an incredibly tactful Marine'. "And how would you know that?", the Admiral asked.
The Sergeant Major replied: "Well, Sir, it's pretty hard to wear glasses with only one f***'in' ear!"

Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178486 Nov 7, 2013
Owl Gore wrote:
Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
ActuaIIy wrote:
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Too bad she never said those words. That is the very definition of bullshyt
Do you know what to "paraphrase" something means? How about "quibbling"?
Pelosi: "We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It"
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178487 Nov 7, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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I like puss. You should have tried it before you went queer.
I went to my psychiatrist and told her I think I am actually a woman trapped inside a man's body and she asked me why I thought so and I told her every time I see a good looking woman, my tongue gets hard and sticks out.
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178488 Nov 7, 2013
One day I was talking to my psychiatrist and she asked me if I smoked after sex and I told her, "Not that I noticed"!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178489 Nov 7, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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There is noting in the 14th Amendment that says that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be citizens or that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be Natural Born US Citizens. This is what Bingham, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
It seems that by 1869 he had changed his mind from what he said in 1866.
And here is what the author of the citizenship clause Senator Lyman Trumball said:
“By the terms of the Constitution he must have been a citizen of the United States for nine years before he could take a seat here, and seven years before he could take a seat in the other House ; and, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a native-born citizen. It is the common law of this country, and of all countries, and it was unnecessary to incorporate it in the Constitution, that a person is a citizen of the country in which he is born…. I read from Paschal's Annotated Constitution, note 274:‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together.’ Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country as well as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are, in theory, born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons.”—Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. 575 (1872)
LMAO!!! You still have show me how aliens and foreigners are born in the US.
Owl Gore

Jacksonville, FL

#178490 Nov 7, 2013
Do you know what the first thing that comes out of an old helicopter pilot's love tool when he gets excited?
The wrinkles!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178491 Nov 7, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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There is noting in the 14th Amendment that says that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be citizens or that the US-born children of foreigners cannot be Natural Born US Citizens. This is what Bingham, one of the authors of the 14th Amendment, said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
It seems that by 1869 he had changed his mind from what he said in 1866.
And here is what the author of the citizenship clause Senator Lyman Trumball said:
“By the terms of the Constitution he must have been a citizen of the United States for nine years before he could take a seat here, and seven years before he could take a seat in the other House ; and, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a native-born citizen. It is the common law of this country, and of all countries, and it was unnecessary to incorporate it in the Constitution, that a person is a citizen of the country in which he is born…. I read from Paschal's Annotated Constitution, note 274:‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together.’ Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country as well as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are, in theory, born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons.”—Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. 575 (1872)
LMAO!!! It really doesn't matter what either Bingham or Trumball stated after the ratification of the 14th amendment in 1868, it is now Constitutional Law or would you like to change that fact.

Since: Feb 11

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#178492 Nov 7, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
From L.A.Times. LMAO!
"We’re the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad," Barack Obama. WTF?
ROTF!!!
So, we aren't supposed to discuss the past when it pertains to Bush's mistakes but it's okay to do it with President Obama, huh?

That Republicant duplicity is legendary.

How many books, articles and blogs are dedicated to George W. Bush making verbal blunders?

Some of my favorites:

"We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease."
--Yes, he was our President at the time; in Gothenburg, Sweden, June 14, 2001

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." --at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." -Townsend, Tenn., Feb. 21, 2001

"I am here to make an announcement that this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly out of Ronald Reagan Airport." --Washington, D.C., Oct. 3, 2001

"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a -- you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." --Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --interview with CBS News' Katie Couric, Sept. 6, 2006

"The same folks that are bombing innocent people in Iraq were the ones who attacked us in America on September the 11th." --Washington, D.C., July 12, 2007

"I'm the commander -- see, I don't need to explain -- I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being president." --as quoted in Bob Woodward's Bush at War

"Do you have blacks, too?" --to Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso, Washington, D.C., Nov. 8, 2001

"I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound largemouth bass in my lake." --on his best moment in office, interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, May 7, 2006

"They misunderestimated me." --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." --Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005

"People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you." --Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

"You work three jobs?... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

But of all of them, and there are many, many more, this is my all time favorite (no, it is not the Mission Accomplished speech)

"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office." --Washington, D.C., May 12, 2008

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#178493 Nov 7, 2013
Owl Gore wrote:
Remember when Nancy Pelosi said, "We have to pass it, to find out what's in it" ???
A physician called into a radio show and said "that's the definition of a Stool sample".
That pretty well sums it up ...... for me too !!!
Tell us, Rogue. What kind of health plan do YOU have? Is it the same kind of plan as those 55 million Americans who, before Obamacare, had NO health plan? Why is yours so much better than the average citizen who has not served in the military? Were you physically OR psychologically injured?

Since: Feb 11

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#178494 Nov 7, 2013
Owl Gore wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Fox News flash. The number of Americans who have lost their health care plans is now ..... 4.2 Million!
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No, it was not on Fox, it was on Fox News. You do know there is a difference, don't you? Fox is the comedy channel you Libtards watch The Simpsons and the Family Guy on.
Actually, I watch the American Forces Radio and Television Service shows.

Making those distinctions is pathetic, even for a Republicant.

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