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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178148 Nov 5, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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The answer to that is that the USA HAS determined, and it has determined that EVERY CHILD BORN ON ITS SOIL is a Natural Born US Citizen. That, as you noted, is the inherent right of every country, and we exercised that right by ruling in the Wong Kim Ark case that EVERY CHILD born on our soil is a Natural Born Citizen, and that is what Bingham things too:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
And that is that ten appeals courts have ruled, and that is what Senators Hatch and Graham and former senator Fred Thompson and the Heritage Foundation book on the US Constitution say too. Your nutty theory about the meaning of jurisdiction is yours and yours alone.
LMAO!!! You didn't answer my question on children born outside of the US of a US father.

Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#178149 Nov 5, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Obama is not a liberal/progressive.
Obama is a Centrist corporate Democrat loyal to Wall Street, Big Pharma, and Big HMOs, and Big Oil/Energy Just like Bush and Cheney.
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EXECUTIVE ORDER / EO 13303
Effective Date: May 28, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/ca3se
I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq. This situation constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.
http://nodis3.gsfc.nasa.gov/displayEO.cfm...
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2003-05-28/ht...
Only in your sick socialistic mind do you think Obama is a centrist!
Just like he knew he would never get Single Payer Health Care through Congress so he set up ObamaCare to fail in hopes the people will blame the evil health insurance companies and then demand Single Payer. That is his goal.
Grand Birther

Painesville, OH

#178150 Nov 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Redneck girl comments on ObamaCare. You don't have to have an IQ over 90 to get it. But you do need a CQ (Commonsense Quotient) over 110 to get it.
Rogue Moron knows he is of below average intelligence. That is why he pretends "commonsense quotient" is an actual metric. Clearly, though, he lacks common sense since he's a birfoon.

What a sad, sorry life Rogue Moron leads.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#178151 Nov 5, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Most all presidents attended church except for the Phony Baloney Ronald Reagan who lied about Iran/Contra.
Billy Graham was involved with all our recent presidents, not just Reagan.
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Imperial Constantinian Christian elites ( Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Hagee ) do not believe in the separation of church and state. Since Constantine’s conversion a terrible co-joining of the church and state was institutionalized.
The Republican right wing fascist party has implemented an imperial Constantinian fundamentalist empire.( Phony Christians )
They believe in the prosperity gospel, market spirituality, money-obsessed churches, tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans even after September 11, 2001 and in a time of war.
Bush fascist Republicans want to do away with all government social justice programs.
Constantine himself flouted his piety even as he continued to dominate and conquer peoples. Sound familiar?( George “W”rong Bush )
These Bush fascist fundamentalist Republicans are all drunk drinking the Rush “From Drugs” Lying Corporatist Limbaugh ( Kool-Aid )
Newt Gingrich and his neo-con Republicans took control of Congress back in 1994 to 2006. 12 straight years.
When Bush stole the election in 2000 most of his 8 years he had a Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Governors of most States and Republicans in most State Houses all across America.
Plus the Supreme Court has been Rightwing Republican for decades.
The Republican party could have overturned Roe v. Wade for many years and they did not do it.
Republicans need that issue for votes so I believe they will never undo Roe vs. Wade.
Bible thumper, ypu won't be welcomed at any dem/lib/fascist/neo nazi events.
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#178152 Nov 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Only in your sick socialistic mind do you think Obama is a centrist!
Just like he knew he would never get Single Payer Health Care through Congress so he set up ObamaCare to fail in hopes the people will blame the evil health insurance companies and then demand Single Payer. That is his goal.
You need to wake up to our real problems in America and stop this nonsense about Obama/Socialist, Obama/Communist, Obama/Muslim, Obama/Marxist, Obama/Kenyan.

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Ex-CIA Analyst on Snowden and Calling Journalists Terrorists
November 5, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/mja9o88
Ray McGovern is a retired CIA officer. McGovern was employed under seven US presidents for over 27 years, presenting the morning intelligence briefings at the White House under Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. McGovern was born and raised in the Bronx, graduated summa cum laude from Fordham University, received an M.A. in Russian Studies from Fordham, a certificate in Theological Studies from Georgetown University, and graduated from Harvard Business School's Advanced Management Program. McGovern now works for "Tell the Word," a ministry of the inner-city/Washington Church of the Saviour.
http://www.therealnews.com/t2/index.php...
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178153 Nov 5, 2013
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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At the time of his birth in the United States, Obama's owed complete allegiance to the United States. Dual citizenship at birth does not mean dual allegiance at birth. Obama owed no allegiance to his father's country because his father's country had no jurisdiction over Obama while he resided in the United States.
Courts have long recognized that foreign nations have no jurisdiction over its citizens or subjects in the United States. "[T]he legal status of foreign nationals in the United States is determined solely by our domestic law — foreign law confers no privilege in this country that our courts are bound to recognize." Vanity Fair Mills v. T. Eaton Co., 234 F. 2d 633, 638-639 (2nd Cir. 1956). See also Rundell v. La Campagnie Generale Transatlantique, 100 Fed. 655, 660 (7th Cir. 1900)("Such laws may give rise to personal relations between the sovereign and subjects, to be enforced in his own domains; but they do not rightfully extend to other nations.”)
Moreover, United States' jurisdiction over Obama while he was residing in the United States is complete and it does not share its jurisdiction with other nations since other nations do not extend their jurisdiction within the United States. "`no sovereignty can extend its process beyond its own territorial limits, to subject other persons or property to its judicial decisions. Every exertion of authority beyond these limits is a mere nullity, and incapable of binding such persons or property in other tribunals;'" Grover & Baker Sewing Machine Co. v. Radcliffe 137 U.S. 287,296 (1890)
"In our territory, the alien is "subjected," no less completely than the citizen, to the jurisdiction of our courts (jurisdiction in the narrower sense) and to the general authority of our government (jurisdiction in the wider sense). Aliens, in the language of the common law, are temporary subjects of the state in which they sojourn; they owe the sovereign who harbors them in his domains temporary or local allegiance. The phrase "born subject to the jurisdiction" is therefore precisely equivalent to the common law expression "born under the actual obedience." — The constitution, then, invests with citizenship all persons born under the jurisdiction or obedience of the United States, without regard to the nationality of their parents or to the opposing claims of foreign states." Munroe Smith,“The Law of Nationality”( 1883) Page 948-949
As such, United States jurisdiction over Obama was exclusive and absolute at the time of his birth. "The jurisdiction of the nation within its own territory is necessarily exclusive and absolute." Schooner Exchange v. McFaddon, 11 U.S. 116, 136 (1812)
LMAO!!! Citizenship and allegiance are unseparable, so Obama owed allegiance to his father's country at the moment of birth, since he acquired citizenship at the same time.

What it means to be subject to the jurisdiction, thereof. Now see if an alien can be forced to accomplish the following.

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

Since aliens can't perform the above, or will not perform the above, then they are not subject to the jurisdiction, thereof.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#178154 Nov 5, 2013
Liberal's responding to the debt ceiling increase:
"We can't just give a blank check over and over again."
Nancy Pelosi 11/7/2004

"The request sounds like a drunk going to AA meeting saying 'just gimme one more drink'."
Charlie Rangel 11/18/2004

"Most Americans know that increasing the debt is the last thing we should be doing."
Dirty Harry Reid 3/16/2006

"America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership Americans deserve better."
Barack"liar" Obama, 3/16/2006

Libs are such hypocritical douches
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178155 Nov 5, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
So you claim that one person of significance has adopted play law? And that would be?
LMAO!!! That would be Mr. Howard, remember him or should I refresh you memory, again!!

Mr. HOWARD: I now move to take up House joint resolution No. 127.

The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consideration of the joint resolution (H.R. No. 127) proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178156 Nov 5, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahhh, sooner or later, the chickens come home to roost. "dumbazzbastard", your flagship word, your very own invention. And how well it defines you. How does it feel, knowing that this is your crowning achievement, your utmost success, the coining of this dumb and childish prankish schoolyard joke? Well, turns out you aged (your body, not your mind) and you're no farther ahead, except that there is no longer a schoolyard. What do do? The nerds you bullied turned out to be your bosses, your superiors. How did that feel, LOSER?
I watch the news. You? Tell us about the lies. Waiting.
"If" you watched the news, you would have heard it over and over and over, TODAY! Makes me question whether you watch or not. You do have a TV in your riverfront dumpster, right? squid
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178158 Nov 5, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
Your insecurity is showing again. I have no need to use other screen names. I can make you my bitch with just this one. LOL!
By the way, what is wrong with being a Muslim?
Skippy, you couldn't make a dog in heat your bytch! LMAO! DAB!
Learn to Read

Greenwood, IN

#178159 Nov 5, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! That would be Mr. Howard, remember him or should I refresh you memory, again!!

Mr. HOWARD: I now move to take up House joint resolution No. 127.

The motion was agreed to; and the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, resumed the consideration of the joint resolution (H.R. No. 127) proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.
Funny thing about him. He rejected your fantasy. Poor Romper. All alone again
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178160 Nov 5, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you sleep at the homeless shelter again last night?
Of course not, I was in my nice and comfy bed. What I'm smelling is being picked up by the odor sensor in your new he-man keyboard, Captain America version, right? You stink Chachi, just like Muslims.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178161 Nov 5, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
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The Washington Post states otherwise.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-...
Not only is turnout strong but those who support McAuliffe are busy walking the neighborhoods and organizing rides to polling places for those who need them.
Cuccinelli will lose. America will win.
Want to place a wager on the outcome?
Wager? LMAO! What does Chachi consider a wager? LMAO! I see you're hard at work protecting all of us, again! LMAO! squidsock
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178162 Nov 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, new Gallup poll. Obama's approval rating down to just 39% which means he is down to the Democrat base and has lost the Independent Voters!!!
He's losing "all" support! Like I've said in the past, put a guard at the backdoor. ObobbleHead will try and sneak out the back. He's good at that sort of thing. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178163 Nov 5, 2013
dont snow me wrote:
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who wants to know? Or is your real name justice lrs?
Winner!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#178164 Nov 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And do you know why Reagan did not go to a church while he was in office? Because he did not want to be a distraction.
Do you know Billy Gram attended prayer meetings in the White House?
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/photogr...
And did you know that ex Republican officials like the ex pres , vice pres, ex members of the repub cabinet, never ever attend functions for their successors, specially election rallies or even conventions so as not to take the glory away from the candidate? This is why no repub of any notoriety, certainly not GWB, GHB, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Grove and so on attended even the repub nomination convention. Who says? Rogue, that's who, HE KNOWS these things, like he said about Jimmy Carter , well, all that Carter did was give a speech from his home, did not personally attend. Oh, sorry, forgot, Carter was 88 yrs old. Clinton was there, as Hillary was also, and Kerry and and...

And so we now have Rogue's take on Reagan and religion. All other presidents, for whatever reason, went to church, apparently unafraid to be a distraction. But Reagan, yes, so delicate, he stayed in the White House with the Pope, Billy Graham.

Yup, all this inside info that Rogue possesses ! Like Roberts immediately rejecting obamacare when the dossier was passed on to the supreme court. But then, according to buddy LRS, Obama bought him off. That's after the election that Obama won fraudulently by giving away phones and condoms.

Gubernatorial races results tonight. Birther prediction : Repubs win : Normal. Dems win : Fraud. Source? LRS and Rogue.

Whew.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#178165 Nov 5, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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There is nothing wrong with being a Muslim but to claim you are a Christian at the same time is just another Obama lie!
I don't expect an answer following the above statement, but kindly prove that Obama is Muslim. Thank you.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#178166 Nov 5, 2013
Chachi is busy looking for that odor sensor! LMAO!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#178167 Nov 5, 2013
Grand Birther wrote:
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Wow! This will be good to know in the next presidential election, in which Obama will not be a candidate.
The implications for the 2014 midterms are yours to devine, but let's keep your track record in mind. So far you've been wrong with every single prediction you've made.
But , Grand Birther, you've just being mean. Poor Rogue. Yes, every single prediction of his has been wrong. Okay. But, it's not his fault, it's the the polls and the media that misled him. And, not to forget fraud. Obama won by fraud in both 2088 and 2012. Now, is that Rogue's fault? Is that Rogue's fault that he could not wear his new dancing shoes the morning of November 7, 2012? Misled, fraud, you know. Like tonight. If and Dem wins, it'll be the damn media and fraud again.

Oh, I like Christie. Hope he wins, just to spite the tea partyers who can't stand him on account he's intelligent and reasonable. And has plenty of common sense.

Tea party intitiation :

Tea party official :Are you intelligent and reasonable with common sense?

New member : Yes

Tea Party official : Sorry, you don't qualify. Next.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#178168 Nov 5, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Funny thing about him. He rejected your fantasy. Poor Romper. All alone again
LMAO!!! Evidently you can't read, now I know why you are ignorant.

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