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BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#177940 Nov 4, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>... "The authors of the U.S. Declaration of Independence refer only briefly to “the Laws of Nature” before citing equality and other “unalienable” rights as “self-evident.” " ...

natural law - noun
In jurisprudence and political philosophy, a system of right or justice common to all humankind and derived from nature rather than from the rules of society, or positive law. The concept can be traced to Aristotle, who held that what was “just by nature” was not always the same as what was “just by law.” In one form or another, the existence of natural law was asserted by the Stoics (see Stoicism), Cicero, the Roman jurists, St. Paul, St. Augustine, Gratian, St. Thomas Aquinas, John Duns Scotus, William of Ockham, and Francisco Suárez. In the modern period, Hugo Grotius insisted on the validity of natural law even on the assumption that God does not exist, and Thomas Hobbes defined a law of nature as “a precept of general rule found out by reason, by which a man is forbidden to do that which is destructive of his life.” Hobbes attempted to construct an edifice of law by rational deduction from a hypothetical “state of nature” and a social contract of consent between rulers and subjects. John Locke departed from Hobbes in describing the state of nature as an early society in which free and equal men observe the natural law. Jean-Jacques Rousseau postulated a savage who was virtuous in isolation and actuated by two principles “prior to reason”: self-preservation and compassion. The authors of the U.S. Declaration of Independence refer only briefly to “the Laws of Nature” before citing equality and other “unalienable” rights as “self-evident.” The French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen asserts liberty, property, security, and resistance to oppression as “imprescriptible natural rights.” Interest in the concept of natural law declined dramatically in the 19th century, partly as a result of skeptical attacks by Jeremy Bentham and other proponents of utilitarianism; it was revived in the mid-20th century in light of the crimes committed by the Nazi regime during World War II. Skepticism of natural law and natural rights remained strong, however, and later writers almost invariably talked of human rights rather than natural rights.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nat...

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Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#177941 Nov 4, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Enjoy the downhill slide, we are amazed at your ignorance.
Poor Dufus. I will laugh at you from the comfort of more than 200 years of the country and courts rejecting your fable
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177943 Nov 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor Dufus. I will laugh at you from the comfort of more than 200 years of the country and courts rejecting your fable
Good thing you're laughing Fluffybritches, cause we sure are! LMAO! The question none of you gum-flappers ever answer......"why do you support a liar"? Are you as unAmerican as ObobbleHead? Are you as crooked as ObobbleHead? Are you as stupid as ObobbleHead? What say you, Fluffybritches?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#177945 Nov 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Good thing you're laughing Fluffybritches, cause we sure are! LMAO! The question none of you gum-flappers ever answer......"why do you support a liar"? Are you as unAmerican as ObobbleHead? Are you as crooked as ObobbleHead? Are you as stupid as ObobbleHead? What say you, Fluffybritches?
I say your pathetic hate based fable is just another of your many problems

Hey - isn't that me behind that tree? Poor pathetic fool!
Jim

West Frankfort, IL

#177947 Nov 4, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
No, because Obama is a usurper! Because of Obama's usurpation, Cruz is now a legal presidential candidate for President. Don't you agree or are you now a Birther, SHEEPLE?
Obama had only an American citizen for a Mother and that is exactly what Cruz has. What is the difference SHEEPLE!
payback will be lovely, don't you agree???
Obama was born in America and Ted Cruz was born in Canada,stating facts doesn't make me a birther.Birthers speculate just like 9/11 truthers do,they're crazy because they can't accept the truth even though they have been presented with proof.
Dale

United States

#177948 Nov 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor Dufus. I will laugh at you from the comfort of more than 200 years of the country and courts rejecting your fable
LMAO!!! See how uninformed you are, the states made the citizens prior to Apr. 9, 1866, that would be approx. 147 years.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177950 Nov 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
I say your pathetic hate based fable is just another of your many problems
Hey - isn't that me behind that tree? Poor pathetic fool!
100% pure gum-flapper drivel. Looks like someone deflated your britches, Fluffy! LMAO!!!!!
Jim

West Frankfort, IL

#177957 Nov 4, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama's Father never even became a US citizen!
Gee...you think that had something to do with him dying?
Jim

West Frankfort, IL

#177959 Nov 4, 2013
Let's not forget that Ted's dad waited almost 50 years to become a U.S. citizen but then again he fought for a communist dictator too.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177964 Nov 4, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is a usurper! Because of Obama's usurpation, Cruz is now a legal presidential candidate for President. Don't you agree or are you now a Birther, SHEEPLE?
Obama had only an American citizen for a Mother and that is exactly what Cruz has. What is the difference SHEEPLE!
Cruz is still Canadian, far as everyone reckons. Maybe even a Cuban, who knows? An American? Are you 100% sure? He has not, to anyone's knowledge,renounced his Canadian citizenship. Can a dual citizen, well, maybe a triple citizen, be president?

One thing I can tell you for sure, we have no such rule in Canada. He can be born where and when he wants. Hey, he could even run for office here. I wish he would. Even his own mother wouldn't vote for him.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#177967 Nov 4, 2013
WHY was THIS POST "deleted" ...???
Pray tell!

American Lady
Danville, KY
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United States

#177968 Nov 4, 2013
The House should be working on those 93 million cases of Fraud that Obama and the democratic congress will be receiving.

Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant's actions involved five separate elements:(1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue,(3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim,(4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result.

Obama and every member of the democrat congress has committed fraud against the citizens of the USA.
Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#177971 Nov 4, 2013
False Pretenses
Following 9/11, President Bush and seven top officials of his administration waged a carefully orchestrated campaign of misinformation about the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq./ January 23, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/ls2llay
By Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith
President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.
On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war.
It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11 Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2008/01/23/564...

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935 Lies (and Counting): Study Documents Bush Administration’s False Statements Preceding Iraq War / January 24, 2008
A new study from the Center for Public Integrity has revealed President Bush and top administration officials made a total of 935 false public statements about Iraq’s alleged national security threat in the two years following the 9/11 attacks. President Bush made the most false statements – 260. Colin Powell, his then secretary of state, made 254 false statements. We speak with the founder of the Center for Public Integrity, Charles Lewis.
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Therealnews com

Edison, NJ

#177973 Nov 4, 2013
Diplomat's Suppressed Document Lays Bare the Lies behind Iraq War
December 15, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/ye8w94
The Government's case for going to war in Iraq has been torn apart by the publication of previously suppressed evidence that Tony Blair lied over Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
A devastating attack on Mr. Blair's justification for military action by Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, has been kept under wraps until now because he was threatened with being charged with breaching the Official Secrets Act.

In the testimony revealed today Mr. Ross, 40, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, makes it clear that Mr. Blair must have known Saddam Hussein possessed no weapons of mass destruction. He said that during his posting to the UN, "at no time did HMG [Her Majesty's Government] assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK or its interests."

Mr Ross revealed it was a commonly held view among British officials dealing with Iraq that any threat by Saddam Hussein had been "effectively contained".
He also reveals that British officials warned US diplomats that bringing down the Iraqi dictator would lead to the chaos the world has since witnessed. "I remember on several occasions the UK team stating this view in terms during our discussions with the US (who agreed)," he said.

It shows Mr. Ross told the inquiry, chaired by Lord Butler, "there was no intelligence evidence of significant holdings of CW [chemical warfare], BW [biological warfare] or nuclear material" held by the Iraqi dictator before the invasion. "There was, moreover, no intelligence or assessment during my time in the job that Iraq had any intention to launch an attack against its neighbors or the UK or the US," he added.

Mr. Ross's evidence directly challenges the assertions by the Prime Minster that the war was legally justified because Saddam possessed WMDs which could be "activated" within 45 minutes and posed a threat to British interests. These claims were also made in two dossiers, subsequently discredited, in spite of the advice by Mr. Ross.

Mr. Ross said in late 2002 that he "discussed this at some length with David Kelly", the weapons expert who a year later committed suicide when he was named as the source of a BBC report saying Downing Street had "sexed up" the WMD claims in a dossier. The Butler inquiry cleared Mr. Blair and Downing Street of "sexing up" the dossier, but the publication of the Carne Ross evidence will cast fresh doubts on its findings.

Mr Ross, 40, was a highly rated diplomat but he resigned because of his misgivings about the legality of the war. He still fears the threat of action under the Official Secrets Act.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1215-...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177976 Nov 4, 2013
It's a damn good thing none of you gum-flappers were here when I got back! Ha!
Jim

West Frankfort, IL

#177978 Nov 4, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
So what!
Obama is a usurper! Because of Obama's usurpation, Cruz is now a legal presidential candidate for President. Don't you agree or are you now a Birther, SHEEPLE?
Obama had only an American citizen for a Mother and that is exactly what Cruz has. What is the difference SHEEPLE!
payback will be lovely, don't you agree???
repeating yourself over and over again won't make it true....I swear these teabaggers copy what children do to get their way.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#177980 Nov 4, 2013
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>repeating yourself over and over again won't make it true....I swear these teabaggers copy what children do to get their way.
Unskilled and unaware of it:
How difficulties in recognizing one's own incompetence
lead to inflated self-assessments.

Kruger, Justin; Dunning, David
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Vol 77(6), Dec 1999, 1121-1134.

http://psycnet.apa.org/...
~~~~~~~~~~

you & your ILK's liberal 'mentality'

;~)
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177981 Nov 4, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
Diplomat's Suppressed Document Lays Bare the Lies behind Iraq War
December 15, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/ye8w94
The Government's case for going to war in Iraq has been torn apart by the publication of previously suppressed evidence that Tony Blair lied over Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
A devastating attack on Mr. Blair's justification for military action by Carne Ross, Britain's key negotiator at the UN, has been kept under wraps until now because he was threatened with being charged with breaching the Official Secrets Act.
In the testimony revealed today Mr. Ross, 40, who helped negotiate several UN security resolutions on Iraq, makes it clear that Mr. Blair must have known Saddam Hussein possessed no weapons of mass destruction. He said that during his posting to the UN, "at no time did HMG [Her Majesty's Government] assess that Iraq's WMD (or any other capability) posed a threat to the UK or its interests."
Mr Ross revealed it was a commonly held view among British officials dealing with Iraq that any threat by Saddam Hussein had been "effectively contained".
He also reveals that British officials warned US diplomats that bringing down the Iraqi dictator would lead to the chaos the world has since witnessed. "I remember on several occasions the UK team stating this view in terms during our discussions with the US (who agreed)," he said.
It shows Mr. Ross told the inquiry, chaired by Lord Butler, "there was no intelligence evidence of significant holdings of CW [chemical warfare], BW [biological warfare] or nuclear material" held by the Iraqi dictator before the invasion. "There was, moreover, no intelligence or assessment during my time in the job that Iraq had any intention to launch an attack against its neighbors or the UK or the US," he added.
Mr. Ross's evidence directly challenges the assertions by the Prime Minster that the war was legally justified because Saddam possessed WMDs which could be "activated" within 45 minutes and posed a threat to British interests. These claims were also made in two dossiers, subsequently discredited, in spite of the advice by Mr. Ross.
Mr. Ross said in late 2002 that he "discussed this at some length with David Kelly", the weapons expert who a year later committed suicide when he was named as the source of a BBC report saying Downing Street had "sexed up" the WMD claims in a dossier. The Butler inquiry cleared Mr. Blair and Downing Street of "sexing up" the dossier, but the publication of the Carne Ross evidence will cast fresh doubts on its findings.
Mr Ross, 40, was a highly rated diplomat but he resigned because of his misgivings about the legality of the war. He still fears the threat of action under the Official Secrets Act.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1215-...
Commondreams? And, they agreed with you? DUH! LMAO! pilgrim

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177982 Nov 4, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is a usurper! Because of Obama's usurpation, Cruz is now a legal presidential candidate for President. Don't you agree or are you now a Birther, SHEEPLE?
Obama had only an American citizen for a Mother and that is exactly what Cruz has. What is the difference SHEEPLE!
payback will be lovely, don't you agree???
Truth ha ha Detector holding his breath, Truth ha ha Detector now turning blue, Truth ha ha Detector now screaming same thing over and over again. Watch Truth ha ha Detector being taken away by men in white.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177983 Nov 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
It's a damn good thing none of you gum-flappers were here when I got back! Ha!
I knew you were back. I heard the kerplunk and the oink oink. Watch out for stepmom.

Two beautiful nurse girl friends and their rich Nobel prize for medicine doctor brother with the Miss Universe wife LMAO (LTD-Dale tm reg'd). BUFFOON does not even begin to describe you, slimy slithering slug.

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