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Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177589 Nov 3, 2013
These top military Generals , Admirals, CIA, FBI, NSA, agents are not an insignificant number against all Neo-Con Bush Republicans!

Only Liars Like Fox News, Limbaugh, Bush and Cheney Despise Truth Tellers:

General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.) Admiral Frank “Skip” Bowman, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.) Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.) General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.) Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Donald L.“Don” Pilling, USN (Ret.) Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.) General Charles F.“Chuck” Wald, USAF (Ret.) General Anthony C.“Tony” Zinni, USMC

(Ret ) General John Batiste General William E. Odom Lt. General GREGORY NEWBOLD General Eric Shinseki General Paul Eaton GENERAL JOSEPH P. HOAR

Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute General Brent Scowcroft

General Barry McCaffrey Admiral Tommy Fargo General Wesley K. Clark

Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack Maj. Gen. John Riggs Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper

Colonel Sam Gardiner Colonel Ann Wright Colonel David Hackworth

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski Colonel Lawrence B. Wilkerson Marine Major Scott Ritter

Paul R Pillar CIA Larry C. Johnson CIA Tyler Drumheller CIA Michael Scheuer CIA

Ray McGovern CIA Russell Tice NSA, Sibel Edmonds FBI, Valerie Plame CIA.

General Batiste: "Protect America, Not George Bush"


Major General John R.S. Batiste at the DPC Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

"Real" - VoteVets.org TV Ad Responding to Rush Limbaugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Major General John Batiste (ret) Talks to Keith Olbermann
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177590 Nov 3, 2013
General Speaks Out on Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/29d7r8 / May 13, 2007
Mr. President, you did not listen, General Batiste says in new television advertisements being broadcast in Republican Congressional districts as part of a $500,000 campaign financed by http://www.votevets.org You continue to pursue a failed strategy that is breaking our great Army and Marine Corps. I left the Army in protest in order to speak out. Mr. President, you have placed our nation in peril. Our only hope is that Congress will act now to protect our fighting men and women.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/13/us/13genera...

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Why Iraq Was a Mistake
By Lt. General GREGORY NEWBOLD, Retired
http://tinyurl.com/p4j93 Apr. 09, 2006
From 2000 until October 2002, I was a Marine Corps lieutenant general and director of operations for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. After 9/11, I was a witness and therefore a party to the actions that led us to the invasion of Iraq--an unnecessary war.

Inside the military family, I made no secret of my view that the zealots' rationale for war made no sense. And I think I was outspoken enough to make those senior to me uncomfortable.

But I now regret that I did not more openly challenge those who were determined to invade a country whose actions were peripheral to the real threat--al-Qaeda.

I retired from the military four months before the invasion, in part because of my opposition to those who had used 9/11's tragedy to hijack our security policy. Until now, I have resisted speaking out in public. I've been silent long enough.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9...

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General Eaton's Letter to President Bush on Veto
May 1, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/mx9nm4o
Dear Mr. President,
Today, in your veto message regarding the bipartisan legislation just passed on Operation Iraqi Freedom, you asserted that you so decided because you listen to your commanders on the ground.
Respectfully, as your former commander on the ground, your administration did not listen to our best advice. In fact, a number of my fellow Generals were forced out of their jobs, because they did not tell you what you wanted to hear -- most notably General Eric Shinseki, whose foresight regarding troop levels was advice you rejected, at our troops' peril.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/05/01/3298...

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America's Angriest General John Batiste
May 9, 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/maw5r26
Retired two-star Army Gen. John Batiste is lashing out at the Bush war in Iraq in ads targeting key Republicans up for re-election in 2008. His offensive may change the rules regarding civilian-military relations.

"Mr. President, you did not listen," he says. "You continue to pursue a failed strategy that is breaking our Army and Marine Corps."
The ad is scheduled to air from May 10 to 18, targeting Republican Sens. Susan Collins (Maine), John Sununu (New Hampshire), John Warner (Virginia) and Norm Coleman (Minnesota), and 10 GOP House members, including Mary Bono, Phil English, Randy Kuhl, Jim Walsh and Heather Wilson.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2007/05...
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177591 Nov 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, what happened to the lawsuit? Did it go all the way up to the Supreme Court like Owl Gore's 2000 case did?
Remember it was the dimpled chads that caused people to go to the computer system in the fist place.
Oh, how do you dimple a chad? By inserting more than two ballots at the same time!!! But why are you inserting more than ONE ballot at the same time?!? Yep, Palm Beach County is controlled by DEMOCRATS!
Dimpled chads proves beyond any doubt that Gore won Florida.

Putting a mark on Gore's name proves intent of the voter.

Case Closed Bush Lost Florida.

P.S. Those voting devices were not cleaned out properly........

....... PERIOD.
Fox News Propaganda

Beckley, WV

#177592 Nov 3, 2013
And Fox News keeps beeting others in ratings, that is why we liberals cry.
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177593 Nov 3, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
And Fox News keeps beeting others in ratings, that is why we liberals cry.
There are about 300 Million people living in the United States, how many viewers does Fox News Not True Channel have?

LOL

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You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.

Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.

Most Republicans are conservative in name only. RINOS

Most Democrats are liberal in name only. LINOS

Obamacare is not a liberal health plan which would have provided Single Payer, Medicare For All.

Obamacare is more accurately Romneycare which was endorsed by Bob Dole and the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.

Obama/Clinton, Bush/Cheney John Kerry, John McCain, et cetera are all corporate hacks loyal to Wall Street.

They have to divide and conquer our ignorant masses.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177594 Nov 3, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
And Fox News keeps beeting others in ratings, that is why we liberals cry.
And your toast is on fire.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177595 Nov 3, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>
There are about 300 Million people living in the United States, how many viewers does Fox News Not True Channel have?
LOL
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You and I both know the whole system is corrupt and both Republicans and Democrats like it that way.
Fox News and MSNBC are both corporate hack talking air heads loyal to these two corrupt parties.
Most Republicans are conservative in name only. RINOS
Most Democrats are liberal in name only. LINOS
Obamacare is not a liberal health plan which would have provided Single Payer, Medicare For All.
Obamacare is more accurately Romneycare which was endorsed by Bob Dole and the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.
Obama/Clinton, Bush/Cheney John Kerry, John McCain, et cetera are all corporate hacks loyal to Wall Street.
They have to divide and conquer our ignorant masses.
Keep things simple. ObobbleHead is a usurper who hates America. And he especially hates you.
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177596 Nov 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep things simple. ObobbleHead is a usurper who hates America. And he especially hates you.
Of course Obama and his corporate Democrats hate me!

Because I tell the truth that Obama is liberal in name only.

LINOs.

RINOs are the same and the heads and backers of the TEA BAGS are also Wall Street owned.

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THE LEADERS OF THE TEA BAGS ARE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO DESTROYED AMERICA! Republicans Newt Gingrich & Dick Armey

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999
Bill Clinton and the Republicans did away with oversight.
President Bill Clinton signed this into law with 54 Republicans voting yes and 44 Democrats voting no./ http://tinyurl.com/5lwv6z
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...

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GOP freshmen, big-bucks donors hobnob at resort
Tea Bags Sold Out To Wall Street
March 16, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/85yw3o9
In 2010, many freshmen Republicans were swept into Congress on the promise of doing things differently.
But fast-forward to 2012, and the Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo, Fla.-- an exclusive seaside resort and home to 54 holes of championship golf and a private marina full of luxury yachts.
"Book your Key Largo getaway now," reads the invitation, obtained by CBS News. The hosts are veteran congressmen Spencer Bachus, of Alabama, Pete Sessions, of Texas, "and 12 of your favorite Republican freshmen!"
The 12: Sandy Adams (Fla.), Quico Canseco (Texas), Rick Crawford (Ark.), Bob Dold (Ill.), Sean Duffy (Wis.), Stephen Fincher (Tenn.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Penn.), Daniel Webster (Fla.), Mike Grimm (N.Y.), Nan Hayworth (N.Y.), Jim Renacci (Ohio) and Cory Gardner (Col).
Congressmen Canseco and Gardner were seen on camera heading in to host happy hour. To get in, donors had to pay at least $10,000.
During his campaign, Gardner promised average voters would inspire his actions. One ad said, "I will always put Colorado families before the Washington special interests."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-573986...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177597 Nov 3, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>
Dimpled chads proves beyond any doubt that Gore won Florida.
Putting a mark on Gore's name proves intent of the voter.
Case Closed Bush Lost Florida.
P.S. Those voting devices were not cleaned out properly........
....... PERIOD.
Then who was in the White House from 2001 until 2009?
At least the Supreme Court ruled on the election of 2008!!!

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#177598 Nov 3, 2013
Electoral politics are generally held in low repute.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177599 Nov 3, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
And Fox News keeps beeting others in ratings, that is why we liberals cry.
Have you figured out why Fox News is on top? Maybe because they give BOTH sides of most issues and then let YOU decide.
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177600 Nov 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Keep things simple. ObobbleHead is a usurper who hates America. And he especially hates you.
The Top Secret Trade Deal You Need to Know About
Secrets… The innocent lives lost in drone wars and the trade deal Washington and big business are trying to hide./ November 2, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/m2uupnw
A cornerstone of President Obama’s plan to create more American jobs is a new agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), referred to by some as “NAFTA on steroids.” While negotiations are being carried out in secret and very little about the terms has been leaked, enough is known to worry about its possible effect on trade unions and our copyright and patent laws, not to mention environmental, health and safety regulations.
This week on Moyers & Company, Bill discusses the TPP with two perceptive observers of the global economy. Yves Smith is an expert on investment banking who runs the Naked Capitalism blog, a go-to site for information and insight on the business and ethics of finance. Dean Baker is co-director of the progressive Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, DC.
Also on this week’s broadcast, a preview of Robert Greenwald’s new documentary, Unmanned: America’s Drone Wars. It’s release coincided with a first: victims of deadly drone attacks testified at a special briefing for members of Congress. In this week’s show we feature clips from the film, which shares testimony, stories and alarming news on the fatal impact of our drone strategy.
And a Bill Moyers’ essay on Obamacare’s rocky rollout.
http://www.commondreams.org/video/2013/11/02
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177601 Nov 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then who was in the White House from 2001 until 2009?
At least the Supreme Court ruled on the election of 2008!!!
George W. Bush was an illegitimate president.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177602 Nov 3, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone in The United States
started OUT
with 'ancestors' from other countries.
EXCEPT for the NATIVE Americans!
D~U~H ...!!!
Even Native Americans have ancestors from outside the Americas. It all depends on how far you want to go back.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177603 Nov 3, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>
The Top Secret Trade Deal You Need to Know About
Secrets… The innocent lives lost in drone wars and the trade deal Washington and big business are trying to hide./ November 2, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/m2uupnw
A cornerstone of President Obama’s plan to create more American jobs is a new agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), referred to by some as “NAFTA on steroids.” While negotiations are being carried out in secret and very little about the terms has been leaked, enough is known to worry about its possible effect on trade unions and our copyright and patent laws, not to mention environmental, health and safety regulations.
This week on Moyers & Company, Bill discusses the TPP with two perceptive observers of the global economy. Yves Smith is an expert on investment banking who runs the Naked Capitalism blog, a go-to site for information and insight on the business and ethics of finance. Dean Baker is co-director of the progressive Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, DC.
Also on this week’s broadcast, a preview of Robert Greenwald’s new documentary, Unmanned: America’s Drone Wars. It’s release coincided with a first: victims of deadly drone attacks testified at a special briefing for members of Congress. In this week’s show we feature clips from the film, which shares testimony, stories and alarming news on the fatal impact of our drone strategy.
And a Bill Moyers’ essay on Obamacare’s rocky rollout.
http://www.commondreams.org/video/2013/11/02
Ah, but in Obama's Drone War no Americans die!!! And if you don't want to die, stay away from bad guys who are at war with America.
The idea of warfare is to let the other guy die for his country (ideology).
During WWII we killed about 70,000 French civilians, 30,000 just in the Normand area, but you do see them protesting America about it, do you?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177604 Nov 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Then who was in the White House from 2001 until 2009?
At least the Supreme Court ruled on the election of 2008!!!
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>
George W. Bush was an illegitimate president.
Ah, even Owl Gore agreed that Bush won. Get over it! You complain about us Birthers but at least your side got a Supreme Court ruling!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#177605 Nov 3, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Of course Obama was born a citizen of his father's country, this is natural law, since his father was not a citizen of the US.
Now people should ask themselves, is Barry's last name Dunham?
Who told you that it is "natural law"? Whose version of "Natural Law" are you following. There are about a dozen different versions that contradict one another. And they recommend things that we did not adopt. For example, Vattel, who is said to be a Natural Law philosopher, recommended that every country should have a state religion and force people to join it, or make them leave the country---we certainly did not adopt that. So, what makes you think that we adopted his idea of the definition of Natural Born Citizen either?

And, duh, even your notion that Natural Law holds that you inherit citizenship from a father is WRONG. In Jewish law, it is from the MOTHER.

In the United States, the basic principle of Natural Law that we follow is this: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." Therefore, IF the writers of the US Constitution did not believe that the US-born child of foreigners was EQUAL to the US-born child of US citizens and hence not eligible to become president, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US, and they didn't.

And, by the way, there are quotations from legal scholars who knew the writers of the Constitution, and they both used the term Natural Born Citizen exactly the way that it was used in the common law, and in total agreement to the principle "we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." And there isn't even one article or letter from any of the writers of the US Constitution that ever said that the US-born children of foreigners are not eligible to become president. Not ONE.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#177606 Nov 3, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Of course Obama was born a citizen of his father's country, this is natural law, since his father was not a citizen of the US.
Now people should ask themselves, is Barry's last name Dunham?
Obama's legal last name is shown on his birth certificate, short form and long form, and it is Barack Hussein Obama II. Obama never had his name legally changed, nor was he adopted (which requires the action of a district court in Indonesia or Hawaii, and no such papers have been shown), and hence his name remains what it was on his birth certificate, Obama.

Obama has shown both Web images and the actual physical copies to the press (with the raised state seals of Hawaii visible and able to be felt) to the press of both the short form and long form birth certificates of Hawaii. The officials of Hawaii of BOTH parties have repeatedly confirmed that they sent them to him, and they have repeatedly confirmed that the facts on the copies that Obama has had put online are EXACTLY the same as on what they sent to him.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#177607 Nov 3, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a LYING SHEEPLE who is very STUPID!
That is what is wrong with that.
Old questions remain unanswered.
On the floor of the Kenyan National Assembly the day after Barack Obama was elected U.S. president, members of the African country’s parliament celebrated “a Kenyan ruling the USA,” calling Obama “a son of the soil of this country.” Allegedly Born in The U.S.? How can this be?
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/139725/#74tBBKbfQs...
He is a Kenyan in the sense that his father was a Kenyan. That is all.

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged

Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.

Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.

Oh, and there is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol

And, BTW, only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and all but one of them came by SHIP--and there were no regularly scheduled ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177608 Nov 3, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
He is a Kenyan in the sense that his father was a Kenyan. That is all.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on forgeries like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith, a convicted felon, claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.(Moreover, his “birth certificate” uses US date formats [month/day/year] and not the day/month/year format used in Kenya.)
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol
And, BTW, only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961, and all but one of them came by SHIP--and there were no regularly scheduled ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961.
Ah, but how many came from Kenya using a passport of a different country? How many "embarked" for the last leg of their trip from another country.
You fly from Kenya to a European country and switch planes. That is the way most people get from America to Kenya this very day. No direct flights!!!

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