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#177467 Nov 2, 2013
Libtardian Logic. Heritage Foundation article = Republican bill = PelosiCare (ObamaCare)
And any Republican that opposes PelosiCare is a ... Racist!!!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#177468 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey Wotard, does PelosiCare include "Medical Liability Reform" like the Republican bill did?
And that would magically not make an individual mandate "socialism" any more?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#177469 Nov 2, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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Is that why congress has to implement "the doctor fix" for medicare and medicaid almost annually just to keep enough of them willing to participate in that program wojar?
Medicare? Talk about moving the goal posts. OB has picked up his ball and moved on to a new field.
wojar wrote:
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I fault Republicans for being hypocrites. Republicans flip-flopped as soon as dems decided to use the Heritage Plan's individual mandate.
The individual mandate was hatched in the Heritage Foundation and implemented first in Massachusetts. Heritage lauded the plan. The majority in Massachusetts do not want to see the plan repealed. But as soon as dems adopted the plan it became socialism and Republicans screamed the Mass plan failed. It didn't.
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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177470 Nov 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Nabbed or dead? Are we still fighting them or not? And who's to say what Al-Qaeda would be today if we hadn't kept them running and disorganized? I fully expect a very touching apology from you regarding these terrorists. Go ahead and show your true colors!
You unbelievably wrote : "I fully expect a very touching apology from you regarding these terrorists" . You want me to apologize to Bin Laden? You want me to apologize to GWB for initiating two unfunded unjustified wars that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and huge amounts of money, near-bankrupting the U.S. with no results? You expect me to apologize to Obama for doing GWB's job?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177471 Nov 2, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Yeah, the decision to allow troops to land at Omaha was irresponsible. Basically, a few hundred yards of beach, barbed wire, complete with troop and tank abbatis... and heavy artillery support.
Then... a cliff with pill boxes dug into it.
Who ever gave the nod on Omaha should have resigned... and worse.
And with Pointe du Hoc , the French underground had warned the U.S. that the cannons had been taken away. It was fought for for naught, will over 70 rangers killed for nothing.

Interesting, as refers to Omaha Beach. Apparently, no one knew that the bulk of the experienced German fighters , along with near-un-breachable defences, were deployed. It could've been any beach.

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#177472 Nov 2, 2013
Oh, 34 DEMOCRAT Congressmen also voted against PelosiCare. Are they also .... RACIST?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#177473 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Libtardian Logic. Heritage Foundation article = Republican bill = PelosiCare (ObamaCare)
And any Republican that opposes PelosiCare is a ... Racist!!!
And Rouge plays his fantasy straw man race card again.

Conservatives approve of individual mandate when first unveiled in 1989, Republicans propose it it Senate in 1993 with 18 Republican co-sponsors. Another individual mandate bill, Wyden-Bennet, was co-sponsored by more Republicans (11) than Democrats (9) in May 2007. But not until 2009 did Republicans decide to flip-flop and hypocritically call the individual mandate "unconstitutional," which was a frivolous claim rejected by the Supreme Court.

Hypocrisy.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177474 Nov 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You unbelievably wrote : "I fully expect a very touching apology from you regarding these terrorists" . You want me to apologize to Bin Laden? You want me to apologize to GWB for initiating two unfunded unjustified wars that cost hundreds of thousands of lives and huge amounts of money, near-bankrupting the U.S. with no results? You expect me to apologize to Obama for doing GWB's job?
No, I'm waiting on you to make excuses for Al-Qaeda. I'm sure in your mind they're really sweet folk deep down! I don't think you'll have any trouble justifying their actions! Work on your comprehension, Path.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#177475 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, 34 DEMOCRAT Congressmen also voted against PelosiCare. Are they also .... RACIST?
Race obsessed Rougie conflates hypocrisy and racism. Pathetic.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177477 Nov 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
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And Rouge plays his fantasy straw man race card again.
Conservatives approve of individual mandate when first unveiled in 1989, Republicans propose it it Senate in 1993 with 18 Republican co-sponsors. Another individual mandate bill, Wyden-Bennet, was co-sponsored by more Republicans (11) than Democrats (9) in May 2007. But not until 2009 did Republicans decide to flip-flop and hypocritically call the individual mandate "unconstitutional," which was a frivolous claim rejected by the Supreme Court.
Hypocrisy.
Regardless of what D.C. or the USSC says, this clusterpluck of a bill is unconstitutional. It flies in the face of what this country stands for...FREEDOM. It hasn't even gotten ugly yet. That will soon change. Chaos is what is coming. The Feds do not and never have, had the authority to do what they're forcing on us now!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177478 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And another mental case slips thought the cracks of officials. Sad, very sad.
NJ police: Dad called, worried about LAX suspect
Associated Press
By MICHAEL RUBINKAM and KATHY MATHESON 5 hours ago
PENNSVILLE, N.J.(AP) The young man suspected of carrying out a shooting at Los Angeles International Airport had sent a sibling a text message mentioning suicide, leading their father to seek authorities' help in finding him, a New Jersey police chief said Friday.
Paul Ciancia's father called Pennsville Police Chief Allen Cummings early Friday afternoon, saying another of his children had received a text message from the 23-year-old "in reference to him taking his own life," the chief told The Associated Press.
The elder Ciancia, the owner of an auto-body shop in southern New Jersey, asked for help in locating Paul, Cummings said. The chief called Los Angeles police, which sent a patrol car to Ciancia's apartment. It wasn't clear whether the police visited before or after the airport shooting.
"Basically, there were two roommates there," Cummings said. "They said,'We saw him yesterday and he was fine.'"
http://news.yahoo.com/nj-police-dad-called-wo...
Even with dad's calls and warnings, why did you expect the N.J. AND L.A. police to locate him forthwith? Would it not be easier to not have sold him an ASSAULT RIFLE? What is the matter with you? How about those two teachers getting killed by children last week? Where'd those kids get those guns? You failed to mention those two incidents, amongst so many others. More guns, says the NRA.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177479 Nov 2, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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Let's not leave out the American Industrialist like Henry Ford and our manufacturing might. Without the Willow Run plant churning out a bomber a day that ultimately pummeled Germany into submission, that victory in Europe may not have been possible in the time it took us to tip the scales. American CAPITALISM, and the wealth created by it, not socialism and government deciding who and what would succeed was extremely influential.
Yes, Obkeptic, it's strange, isn't it. This formidable Nazi foe, Henry Ford, who made scandalous profits assembling airplanes, fire coffin Sherman tanks, trucks and what-not for the war effort, was an out-and-out Nazi sympathiser until Germany declared war on the U.S. December 7, 1941, meanwhile with his Ford subsidiary building trucks and other war material in Germany that , at that time, occupied almost all of Europe including Scandinavia . Bravo, Ford. And Lindbergh and Walt Disney and Joe Kennedy who loved to undermine Churchill during the blitz, while we are at it.

Since: Feb 11

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#177480 Nov 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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And what task might that be, Chantilly? Sorry, but I don't pay much attention to your posts for obvious reasons.
Ah yes, you ignore them because you lack the ability to counter the truth. Well done, son. Carry on.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177481 Nov 2, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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I believe they refer to that as collateral damage Jacque. Even the fight to preserve liberty will have some of that. I must be bi-polar, because that was the uncivil side of me prodding you liberals. Our country is a fiscal and social mess currently, and Harvard and Yale has funneled us our current crop of "leaders" for some time now. If results are any indicator of their contribution, my assessment is that they have failed the people, because the people have been screwed by both parties, as we witness the democrats making the rich richer and the poor more desperate then in decades.
Right. Nuke 'em.

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#177482 Nov 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Regardless of what D.C. or the USSC says, this clusterpluck of a bill is unconstitutional.
That could be the most illogical thing you have ever written. That says a lot.
It flies in the face of what this country stands for...FREEDOM.
Like mandatory automobile insurance? Speed limits? Taxes?

LOL!
It hasn't even gotten ugly yet. That will soon change. Chaos is what is coming. The Feds do not and never have, had the authority to do what they're forcing on us now!
Sure the do. You may want to read up on the Enumerated Rights.

It is always entertaining to make you look so silly.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177483 Nov 2, 2013
nebka wrote:

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I was wrong about MABUS being the Anticrist it is WelbyMD
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Coming from an Atheist, I think that is funny!
Please indicate two things :

1. How you've concluded that nebka's an atheist, and ;

2. the 15% proof I've been asking for so long now.

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#177485 Nov 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
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The Health Access Reform Today Act was a bill introduced by a Republican and co-sponsored by 18 additional Republicans in the Senate. No one screamed "socialism". It was an alternative that was proposed, not a "rebuttal".
Sorry Rouge. Republican outrage drips with hypocrisy.
Sorry Wotard, Well maybe because THEIR bill was NOT socialistic while the Democrat one is!!!
And if the Republican bill was identical to PelosiCare, why did the Democrats not vote for it???
Oh, Little Wojo says you are stupid and he wants to piss on your shoes.
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177486 Nov 2, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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There are no "do-overs." The fact is that the RESPONSIBILITY for running the election campaign of 2000 fell on Gore's shoulders and he lost. He lost his own state, Tennessee, and he lost New Hampshire. And, you can check this out, even with losing Tennessee AND Florida, he would have won if he had simply won New Hampshire and he didn't, and New Hampshire is a swing state---so why didn't he win in Tennessee and New Hampshire?
Largely because of the Clinton-Lewinsky mess of course.
So who was responsible for Gore losing in 2000? Clinton. Could Ralph Nader have helped Gore by not running? Sure, but the fact is that Nader had his own political agenda and wanted to make his point---and that was baked into the cake.
A lesson of this MESS is that we have to think of a 50-50 election in somewhat broader terms. There actually have been state elections in which the two candidates received EXACTLY the same number of votes after a recount, and so what do they do? They flip a coin and the winner wins the election.
My suggestion is that in the future when a state's vote is within,say, one one hundredth of a percent of 50-50, it be assumed that it was tied, and the two candidates must flip a coin to determine who won. The reason of course is that re-counting and re-counting changes the actual vote. The vote is NOT determined by the ballots but by the biases (everybody has them even the people who try hard to be fair) of the people who are recounting the ballots. So, it is pretty easy to determine what the meaning of a "hanging chad" is, but it is very hard, a matter in which biases play a role, to determine what the meaning of a "dimpled chad" would be.
Situations like this are likely to occur in any elections that are within a tiny percentage of 50-50.
As for the illegal actions that kept people from voting in Florida. They were illegal, and the people involved should have been punished (they weren't), but our system does not allow votes to be given for the people who were prevented from voting. All that we can do is to try to prevent such things from happening again, and it seems to me, that there are states that are trying to make it happen again right now--purging their ballot roles and trying to make it hard for people to vote with voter-ID laws (and you notice that those laws never contain any provisions for getting poor people to the places where they can get the voter IDs---I wonder why not?).
The American elections were always fraudulent to some degree and both parties like it that way.

All the Banks in the world and all the Casino's can count Millions, Billions, and even Trillions with 100% accuracy to the penny.

I agree, any election that is close exposes the faults in the system.

Rutherford Birchard Hayes

John F. Kennedy

George W. Bush

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Still No Winner in Florida's 13th District
http://tinyurl.com/ygewzsb December 6, 2006
News of aspiring 2008 presidential candidates may have pushed the just-concluded midterm elections off the front pages, but one 2006 story remains without an end -- the ongoing legal fight over the results in Florida's 13th Congressional District.
At issue is the high rate of "undervoting" in the vote tally, as some 18,000 ballots recorded votes for other offices in Sarasota County but not for the congressional race between auto dealer Vern Buchanan (R) and banker Christine Jennings (D). That undervote rate was six times higher than in the other counties of the district.
Florida election authorities certified Buchanan's 369-vote victory on Nov. 20, but Jennings has sued the state and the manufacturer of the touch-screen voting machines used in the county in hopes of getting to the bottom of the matter.
"This is not about Republicans and this is not about Democrats," Jennings said when announcing the lawsuit. "It's about fixing a broken voting system."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house...

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#177487 Nov 2, 2013
I got my dog two years ago September from a flea market. I knew he was not all Chihuahua but he could fit inside a 16 oz. coffee mug.
I initially named him Zorro because of his mask but as he grew I started to call him Little Wojo as he is a pisser and reminded me of Wotard. He is now two years old and over twice the size of a normal Chihuahua but still pisses as a puppy.
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Sayville, NY

#177488 Nov 2, 2013
Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine
September 13, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/n4l7x3e
https://citp.princeton.edu/research/voting/

Demonstration Videos Diebold Voting Machines


Demonstration Videos / Diebold
http://tinyurl.com/lxd6v
http://bradblog.com/video/flvplayer/FlvPlayer...

NEWLY DISCOVERED DIEBOLD THREAT DESCRIBED AS 'MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY RISK'!
http://tinyurl.com/oy6zm / 5/5/2006
http://www.bradblog.com/...

Black Box Voting / SECURITY ALERT: May 11, 2006
Critical Security Issues with Diebold TSx
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/BBVtsxstudy.pdf

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