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Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177486 Nov 2, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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There are no "do-overs." The fact is that the RESPONSIBILITY for running the election campaign of 2000 fell on Gore's shoulders and he lost. He lost his own state, Tennessee, and he lost New Hampshire. And, you can check this out, even with losing Tennessee AND Florida, he would have won if he had simply won New Hampshire and he didn't, and New Hampshire is a swing state---so why didn't he win in Tennessee and New Hampshire?
Largely because of the Clinton-Lewinsky mess of course.
So who was responsible for Gore losing in 2000? Clinton. Could Ralph Nader have helped Gore by not running? Sure, but the fact is that Nader had his own political agenda and wanted to make his point---and that was baked into the cake.
A lesson of this MESS is that we have to think of a 50-50 election in somewhat broader terms. There actually have been state elections in which the two candidates received EXACTLY the same number of votes after a recount, and so what do they do? They flip a coin and the winner wins the election.
My suggestion is that in the future when a state's vote is within,say, one one hundredth of a percent of 50-50, it be assumed that it was tied, and the two candidates must flip a coin to determine who won. The reason of course is that re-counting and re-counting changes the actual vote. The vote is NOT determined by the ballots but by the biases (everybody has them even the people who try hard to be fair) of the people who are recounting the ballots. So, it is pretty easy to determine what the meaning of a "hanging chad" is, but it is very hard, a matter in which biases play a role, to determine what the meaning of a "dimpled chad" would be.
Situations like this are likely to occur in any elections that are within a tiny percentage of 50-50.
As for the illegal actions that kept people from voting in Florida. They were illegal, and the people involved should have been punished (they weren't), but our system does not allow votes to be given for the people who were prevented from voting. All that we can do is to try to prevent such things from happening again, and it seems to me, that there are states that are trying to make it happen again right now--purging their ballot roles and trying to make it hard for people to vote with voter-ID laws (and you notice that those laws never contain any provisions for getting poor people to the places where they can get the voter IDs---I wonder why not?).
The American elections were always fraudulent to some degree and both parties like it that way.

All the Banks in the world and all the Casino's can count Millions, Billions, and even Trillions with 100% accuracy to the penny.

I agree, any election that is close exposes the faults in the system.

Rutherford Birchard Hayes

John F. Kennedy

George W. Bush

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Still No Winner in Florida's 13th District
http://tinyurl.com/ygewzsb December 6, 2006
News of aspiring 2008 presidential candidates may have pushed the just-concluded midterm elections off the front pages, but one 2006 story remains without an end -- the ongoing legal fight over the results in Florida's 13th Congressional District.
At issue is the high rate of "undervoting" in the vote tally, as some 18,000 ballots recorded votes for other offices in Sarasota County but not for the congressional race between auto dealer Vern Buchanan (R) and banker Christine Jennings (D). That undervote rate was six times higher than in the other counties of the district.
Florida election authorities certified Buchanan's 369-vote victory on Nov. 20, but Jennings has sued the state and the manufacturer of the touch-screen voting machines used in the county in hopes of getting to the bottom of the matter.
"This is not about Republicans and this is not about Democrats," Jennings said when announcing the lawsuit. "It's about fixing a broken voting system."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house...

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Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177487 Nov 2, 2013
I got my dog two years ago September from a flea market. I knew he was not all Chihuahua but he could fit inside a 16 oz. coffee mug.
I initially named him Zorro because of his mask but as he grew I started to call him Little Wojo as he is a pisser and reminded me of Wotard. He is now two years old and over twice the size of a normal Chihuahua but still pisses as a puppy.
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177488 Nov 2, 2013
Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine
September 13, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/n4l7x3e
https://citp.princeton.edu/research/voting/

Demonstration Videos Diebold Voting Machines


Demonstration Videos / Diebold
http://tinyurl.com/lxd6v
http://bradblog.com/video/flvplayer/FlvPlayer...

NEWLY DISCOVERED DIEBOLD THREAT DESCRIBED AS 'MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY RISK'!
http://tinyurl.com/oy6zm / 5/5/2006
http://www.bradblog.com/...

Black Box Voting / SECURITY ALERT: May 11, 2006
Critical Security Issues with Diebold TSx
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/BBVtsxstudy.pdf

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#177489 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I got my dog two years ago September from a flea market. I knew he was not all Chihuahua but he could fit inside a 16 oz. coffee mug.
I initially named him Zorro because of his mask but as he grew I started to call him Little Wojo as he is a pisser and reminded me of Wotard. He is now two years old and over twice the size of a normal Chihuahua but still pisses as a puppy.
That is an amazing coincidence! Just this morning, I took a runny shit that reminded me of you. I called it Rogue Scholar 05 and sent it down the drain to join your family tree. Like its namesake, it was a mess that deserved what it received.
Fox News Propaganda

Sayville, NY

#177490 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Libtardian Logic. Heritage Foundation article = Republican bill = PelosiCare (ObamaCare)
And any Republican that opposes PelosiCare is a ... Racist!!!
wojar is right and you are wrong as usual.

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How the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative Think Tank, Promoted the Individual Mandate / 10/20/2011 / http://tinyurl.com/7yztznx

ROMNEY: Actually, Newt, we got the idea of an individual mandate from you.

GINGRICH: That’s not true. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: Yes, we got it from you, and you got it from the Heritage Foundation and from you.

GINGRICH: Wait a second. What you just said is not true. You did not get that from me. You got it from the Heritage Foundation.

ROMNEY: And you never supported them?

GINGRICH: I agree with them, but I’m just saying, what you said to this audience just now plain wasn’t true.

ROMNEY: OK. Let me ask, have you supported in the past an individual mandate?

GINGRICH: I absolutely did with the Heritage Foundation against Hillarycare.

ROMNEY: You did support an individual mandate?

ROMNEY: Oh, OK. That’s what I’m saying. We got the idea from you and the Heritage Foundation.

GINGRICH: OK. A little broader.

ROMNEY: OK.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/10/20/h...

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Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans
October 1, 1989 / http://tinyurl.com/8xb6rd9
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assu...

Obama says Heritage Foundation is source of health exchange idea
March 30th, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/26xm72p
EDITOR'S NOTE: An analysis of this comment by President Barack Obama was published on April 1, 2010. After it appeared, the Heritage Foundation's communications office contacted us to argue that our rating of Mostly True was too generous to the president. We did some additional reporting to review our ruling. Our second round of reporting -- primarily talking to conservative policy experts outside of Heritage -- solidified our initial conclusions. Below is the updated version of our story, which retains the rating of Mostly True, published April 26, 2010.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

Summary Of A 1993 Republican Health Reform Plan
Feb 23, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/amcg2tz
In November, 1993, Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., introduced what was considered to be one of the main Republican health overhaul proposals: "A bill to provide comprehensive reform of the health care system of the United States."
Titled the "Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act of 1993," it had 21 co-sponsors, including two Democrats (Sens. Boren and Kerrey). The bill, which was not debated or voted upon, was an alternative to President Bill Clinton's plan. It bears similarity to the Democratic bill passed by the Senate Dec. 24, 2009, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2010/...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177491 Nov 2, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
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Still No Winner in Florida's 13th District
http://tinyurl.com/ygewzsb December 6, 2006
News of aspiring 2008 presidential candidates may have pushed the just-concluded midterm elections off the front pages, but one 2006 story remains without an end -- the ongoing legal fight over the results in Florida's 13th Congressional District.
At issue is the high rate of "undervoting" in the vote tally, as some 18,000 ballots recorded votes for other offices in Sarasota County but not for the congressional race between auto dealer Vern Buchanan (R) and banker Christine Jennings (D). That undervote rate was six times higher than in the other counties of the district.
Florida election authorities certified Buchanan's 369-vote victory on Nov. 20, but Jennings has sued the state and the manufacturer of the touch-screen voting machines used in the county in hopes of getting to the bottom of the matter.
"This is not about Republicans and this is not about Democrats," Jennings said when announcing the lawsuit. "It's about fixing a broken voting system."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/house...
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Well, what happened to the lawsuit? Did it go all the way up to the Supreme Court like Owl Gore's 2000 case did?
Remember it was the dimpled chads that caused people to go to the computer system in the fist place.
Oh, how do you dimple a chad? By inserting more than two ballots at the same time!!! But why are you inserting more than ONE ballot at the same time?!? Yep, Palm Beach County is controlled by DEMOCRATS!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#177492 Nov 2, 2013
Why do the Democrats seem to be soooo worried when their guys is ahead by 15% in the polls?

Race for Virginia governor could hinge on women
Associated Press
By PHILIP ELLIOTT and KEN THOMAS 1 hour ago

RICHMOND, Va.(AP)— Women may hold the key in Virginia's slash-and-burn race for governor, rendering a final judgment on a campaign marked by fights over social issues.

Democrats have not relented in their criticism of Republican Ken Cuccinelli's positions on abortion, women's reproductive health and even divorce, and it's taken a toll, especially among female voters. Polls show Cuccinelli consistently struggling to connect with women in his race against Democratic Terry McAuliffe.

http://news.yahoo.com/race-virginia-governor-...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#177493 Nov 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Regardless of what D.C. or the USSC says, this clusterpluck of a bill is unconstitutional. It flies in the face of what this country stands for...FREEDOM. It hasn't even gotten ugly yet. That will soon change. Chaos is what is coming. The Feds do not and never have, had the authority to do what they're forcing on us now!
Well if anyone knows about things getting ugly it would be Romper
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#177494 Nov 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Medicare? Talk about moving the goal posts. OB has picked up his ball and moved on to a new field.
<quoted text>
Just pointing out a fact Wo. I said nothing about my thoughts about it, just that it requires "fixing" almost every year.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177495 Nov 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
That could be the most illogical thing you have ever written. That says a lot.
<quoted text>
Like mandatory automobile insurance? Speed limits? Taxes?
LOL!
<quoted text>
Sure the do. You may want to read up on the Enumerated Rights.
It is always entertaining to make you look so silly.
Ah, the garbage argument. I don't have to drive, I choose to. Speed Limits are free. Income tax is necessary. Health Insurance coverage, not so much. Look silly? Don't you know you don't have the power to make anyone "look" or "feel" a certain way? What a self-absorbed, inverted pryck you are, Scruff. I bet you think you actually matter in this world, don't you? LMAO!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177496 Nov 2, 2013
Fox News Propaganda wrote:
<quoted text>
It is my understanding that al Qaeda like Cosa Nostra do not use any electronic communications.
Word of mouth is used therefore nullifying NSA spying.
We had air superiority in Vietnam and lost, same with Korea lost, same with Iraq lost, and same with Afghanistan lost.
I do agree we are second to none in Air Power which creates an enormous advantage.
Sincerely,
Hearts & Minds
LoL. Lol but so true.
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#177497 Nov 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Obkeptic, it's strange, isn't it. This formidable Nazi foe, Henry Ford, who made scandalous profits assembling airplanes, fire coffin Sherman tanks, trucks and what-not for the war effort, was an out-and-out Nazi sympathiser until Germany declared war on the U.S. December 7, 1941, meanwhile with his Ford subsidiary building trucks and other war material in Germany that , at that time, occupied almost all of Europe including Scandinavia . Bravo, Ford. And Lindbergh and Walt Disney and Joe Kennedy who loved to undermine Churchill during the blitz, while we are at it.
Thank you Jacque for expanding on my basic point of what Henry managed to accomplish for the Allied forces. Kind of sort of talking about what a great democrat Al Gore Sr. was and failing to mention his support from Armand Hammar and his opposition to the civil rights movement. The Gore wealth still has a large stake in Occidental Petroleum if I'm not mistaken, but I'm sure you have some retort that proves otherwise.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/05...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177498 Nov 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
That could be the most illogical thing you have ever written. That says a lot.
<quoted text>
Like mandatory automobile insurance? Speed limits? Taxes?
LOL!
<quoted text>
Sure the do. You may want to read up on the Enumerated Rights.
It is always entertaining to make you look so silly.
It's even funnier to watch an azzhole be himself!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177499 Nov 2, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Well if anyone knows about things getting ugly it would be Romper
True. I did catch a glimpse of your wife! My advice.....RUN LIKE HELL!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177500 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Publish on Heritage Foundation
July 26, 2013
Ten Years of Tort Reform in Texas: A Review
By Joseph Nixon and Texas Public Policy Foundation
Abstract
Ten years of tort reform have provided greater access to health care and helped make Texas the nation’s leading job producer. Indeed, by recognizing the causal connection between economic prosperity and efficient, fair courts, the Texas legislature passed and Governor Rick Perry signed House Bill 4(HB4)—powerful tort reform legislation that is the foundation of the Texas economic miracle. Yet, despite the awesome economic growth and increased access to health care triggered by HB4,members of the trial bar are still working to overturn this reform. While Texans should stand their ground and rebuff efforts to undo HB4’s successful tort reforms, all Americans should take notice of Texas’s remarkable transformation and look to enact similar reforms in their own states.
The causal connection between economic prosperity and efficient, fair courts is stronger than most people realize.The simple fact is that free people using free markets need a strong judicial system:Fair markets require fair courts. The freedoms and rights enumerated in the U.S. Constitution can be guaranteed only through the justice system. For instance, personal property rights need to be protected. Contracts need to be enforced or damages paid. People need to be able to rely on product safeties and warranties.
Without an effective judicial system, our freedoms and our free enterprise system decay:Rights become uncertain, contracts are ambiguous,and personal property loses value. Simply put, strong, fair courts equal certainty.Arbitrary justice equals economic inefficiency and comes with a huge cost to America’s economic system.
Americans’ rights need to be protected through a well-balanced system. While those who have been harmed need a fair and adequate remedy, individuals who have done no wrong need to be protected from those seeking unjust damages. And those who have done nothing wrong have the right to keep their money and to have their lack of responsibility for any alleged injury suffered by a plaintiff adjudicated quickly.
A Judicial Hellhole
Ten years ago, Texas was known as one of the nation’s “judicial hellholes.”[1]The state’s system of justice allowed for laws to be applied arbitrarily. Enforcement of personal property rights and contracts varied depending on which local court had the case. Furthermore, certain counties had bad reputations regardless of the court. Judicial outcomes often depended on which attorney was before which judge in which county. Equal enforcement of the state’s laws was simply not a certainty upon which a citizen could rely
Ten years ago, Texas was known as one of the nation’s “judicial hellholes.” Equal enforcement of the state’s laws was simply not a certainty upon which a citizen could rely.
This problem was not new to Texas.Thirty years before Texas was proclaimed a judicial hellhole, the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker empowered Page Keeton, the well-respected dean of the University of Texas Law School, to study the problem and offer legally sound solutions. In 1975, the Keeton Commission proposed the state’s first cap on medical malpractice damages.[2] In order to stem the adverse effects of litigation on doctors, the Texas legislature passed its first tort reform law in 1977, establishing a cap on all medical malpractice damages except medical expenses.[3]
To read more, go to
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013...
You're pretty good at posting unsolicited,unwanted and unwarranted links but not too hot at proving your statements,like the latest one on that 15% loss of purchasing power/earnings.Any more statements? Want me to publish the Magna Carta while we are at it? It'll prove what,exactly?

You state something, are asked for proof, give it or just admit you made it up.

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#177501 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Coming from an Atheist, I think that is funny!
Where do you get that idea from?????

I am spiritual but if want me to name a religion it's Buddhism

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177502 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Yep, get hit by a hotdog at a ball game, SUE!!!
Fan injured by hot dog suing Kansas City Royals despite ‘baseball rule’
Published November 01, 2013 Associated Press
KANSAS CITY, Mo.– If it had been a foul ball or broken bat that struck John Coomer in the eye as he watched a Kansas City Royals game, it's unlikely the courts would have forced the team to pay for the surgeries and suffering he's endured
But because it was a hot dog thrown by the team mascot -- behind the back, no less -- he just may have a case.
The Missouri Supreme Court is weighing whether the "baseball rule" ----------
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/01/fan-inju...
You're slipping. How come you did not headline "Democrat liberal progressive leftist Fan injured by hot dog suing Kansas City Royals despite ‘baseball rule’"
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177503 Nov 2, 2013
ChaunceyGardiner wrote:
<quoted text>
That is an amazing coincidence! Just this morning, I took a runny shit that reminded me of you. I called it Rogue Scholar 05 and sent it down the drain to join your family tree. Like its namesake, it was a mess that deserved what it received.
Another true to life bottom-feeder! You must be related to Path and Twinkerbelle. Or, perhaps you are one of them? Hmm? LMAO!

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#177504 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Oh, G.W. Bush disdained the military and Obama loves the military? And just what do you know about the military? Probably as much as Jacqueau does!!!
Now, we should have sent in 500K troops? From where? When Bush-41 was president we had 14 divisions but when Clinton left office we were down to just TEN divisions. You go to war with what you have!!!
Oh, and FDR cut the military to the bone and it was only in 1938 did some Blue Dog Democrats twist FDR's arm to rebuild the military. Do you know who the USS Carl Vinson was named for (who is buried in Grant's tomb)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Vinson
Carl Vinson was a BLUE DOG DEMOCRAT Congressman and he was instrumental in rebuilding the Navy in the late 1930s. They do not name aircraft carriers after no body civilians, do they?!?
Yes, you go to war with the army you have, which Bush didn't do. He only used 3 of his io army divisions and 1 of 3 Marine divisions, plus misc. units that may have totalled to another division.

as for your historical info on Roosvevelt, not sure wjere you got your info, but I wouldn't use it again as a source. Its historically inaccurate. The three republican presidents that followed Wilson, Harding, Coolidge and Hoover cut the U.S. military to record lows. Roosvelet actually started increase spending. Roosevelt knew a war was coming and tried to get the country ready. He jumped started our industrial base (Lend-Lease act ring a bell) but was faced with opposition (Republican mantra, its Europe's problem)

Roosevelt was also responsible for shifting the Navy from centering the fleet around Battleships to Aircraft carriers. Which is why he put many junior admirals who had his vision in places of power.

Dude seriously, you should try reading some history books by reputable authors rather than listen to Fox News

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#177505 Nov 2, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, G.W. Bush disdained the military and Obama loves the military? And just what do you know about the military? Probably as much as Jacqueau does!!!
Now, we should have sent in 500K troops? From where? When Bush-41 was president we had 14 divisions but when Clinton left office we were down to just TEN divisions. You go to war with what you have!!!
Oh, and FDR cut the military to the bone and it was only in 1938 did some Blue Dog Democrats twist FDR's arm to rebuild the military. Do you know who the USS Carl Vinson was named for (who is buried in Grant's tomb)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Vinson
Carl Vinson was a BLUE DOG DEMOCRAT Congressman and he was instrumental in rebuilding the Navy in the late 1930s. They do not name aircraft carriers after no body civilians, do they?!?
oops forgot these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_defense_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Ar...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_defense_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presiden...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Iraq... (2003)_order_of_battle

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