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“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#177403 Nov 1, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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I do idolize some people, and don't mind saying so. Nader I did, still do, but with some reserve. Mother Teresa, Abbé Pierre, Lester Pearson, Jimmy Carter (more as a person than president), Salavador Allende, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, to name a few. All incorruptible.
I would like to knock Mother Theresa off that list for you. Feel free to think what you like about her. But, incorruptible? You have got to pick another word.

To be honest, I don't recognize many names on your list. Mind saving me some time looking them up and just telling me who they are? Not to argue... just curious.



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

30 mins a piece, second one is devoted to her alone. Both very informative. First one includes Gandhi, and the Dalai Lama both repulsive people.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#177404 Nov 1, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
But, but, but McAuliffe was leading by 15% just yesterday!!!
Poll: Virginia governor race a nail-biter
By TAL KOPAN | 10/30/
With less than a week until Election Day, Virginia gubernatorial hopeful Terry McAuliffe holds a slim lead over Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli in a tightening race, according to a poll on Wednesday.
McAuliffe leads Cuccinelli among likely voters 45 percent to 41 percent, with 9 percent for Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis, according to a Quinnipiac University poll. The edge is within the poll’s margin of error.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/virgini...
Just like everybody knows you can save 15% on insurance by going on Geico.com , the left wing press always declares that the democrat is ahead and going to win until it gets right down to the election day, and then they report where the polls actually are. Kucinelli may very well win, and I doubt that the liar in chief campaigning along side of him will make a difference, except snatching defeat from the jaws of the media declared victory.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#177405 Nov 1, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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The website alone will cost around 1T when all is said and done. LMAO!
"The U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will cost taxpayers $4 trillion to $6 trillion, taking into account the medical care of wounded veterans and expensive repairs to a force depleted by more than a decade of fighting, according to a new study by a Harvard researcher."
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-28...

Ernesto Londoño,Iraq, Afghan wars will cost to $4 trillion to $6 trillion, Harvard study says, Washington Post, March 28, 2013.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177406 Nov 1, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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I did attempt to qualify it by using the word "respectable"... In hindsight it does sound demeaning to the guys who fought with us. I could have picked a better adjective.
I had no clue it was 50% on D-Day. Good piece of trivia.
Neither Hitler or Stalin was going to back down or even regroup outside of Stalin's namesake.
Both armies would have been well served by a temporary withdraw. It just so happened that history repeated its self and the Russians came out on top.
Allow me to recommend a book if you haven't yet consumed it.
"Enemy at the Gates" by William Craig
One of my favorites. I would wager a high probability that you have read it though.
There is a movie too... but you know how that turns out if you read the book first.
I did read the book and saw the movie.

As to D-Day, "trivia" is a grave understatement. As for the IInd world war, it was pretty much 50-50 on the western front, adding the Russian front and about 80% U.S. in the Pacific with the other 20% Ansac and British. On D-Day, each country or detachment chose their one of four beaches to land on. It was purely chance as to which country or battalion was allowed the easiest or the toughest assignment. Three of the beaches were tough, casualty rates were high BUT Omaha, where American troops landed, was a massacre. It was the only beach where elite German troops were defending. It was so bad, some of the soldiers in landing craft were all killed before they even jumped into the water. Over 1,500 killed on Omaha alone, with over 3,000 wounded and hundreds never accounted for, probably drowned and swept away.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177407 Nov 1, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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I would like to knock Mother Theresa off that list for you. Feel free to think what you like about her. But, incorruptible? You have got to pick another word.
To be honest, I don't recognize many names on your list. Mind saving me some time looking them up and just telling me who they are? Not to argue... just curious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =o6voAW_Go5YXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
30 mins a piece, second one is devoted to her alone. Both very informative. First one includes Gandhi, and the Dalai Lama both repulsive people.
If you recall, we spoke about Mother Teresa before. We certainly don't have to agree, and I respect your point of view on her. Maybe I'm more apt to forget some of the creases in her cloak, as there are some, in exchange for what she did in Calcutta and all over the globe. Yes, she accepted funds from scoundrels. So? Would it have been better for those funds to be used for less "charitable" causes, if I may put it that way. One has to go to Calcutta, just as an example, and see the despair for oneself. Why throw up one's arms and say, "hey, let the big rich nations do something about this, long term planning" ! Well, they don't. In the meantime, someone's gotta stop the bleeding, supply bandaids. She did.

Lester B. Pearson was Canada's minister of Foreign Affairs during the Suez Canala war between Egypt, Jordan and the French-British-Isreali alliance. He negotiated an end to it, created the UN peacekeeping corps and got the Nobel peace prize for it. He was later Canada's minority PM, and in spite of that passed the Universal Health care plan, got us our flag, established the Canada Pension Plan and smoothed relations with the U.S. which had not been good when JFK was president and Diefenbaker prime minister.

Ellen Johnson Sirleaf is the president of Liberia. Fascinating story, succeeded the killer Taylor as head of state - impossible situation, what a woman.!
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#177408 Nov 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
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The 97% who will have the same coverage or better at comparable or lower price will decide that all the screaming and shouting from the RWNJs was just scare mongering. That is what the tea baggers fear most.
And what the democrat party fears most is that its only their grubby fingerprints on this piece of legislation that is going to cause more then 50% of their party to realize that they have been shackled by their government. Liberal progressive socialism is fine with them as long as its only the rich that get soaked by their policies. That is not the case with the ACA and now they know it. That famous quote, "we are going to have to pass the bill to find out what's in it", coupled with the three huge lies told directly from the silver tongue of the Liar in Chief himself, "you can keep your policy if you like it, you can keep your doctor, and your going to save $2500 a year, period" will not be forgotten any time soon. Your continuing to keep that lie going only makes it a more damaging and powerful a lie. Trust is something that is earned over time wojar, but lost in a moment.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#177409 Nov 1, 2013
American Lady wrote:
Ted Cruz criticizes DOJ for arguing international treaty can trump the Constitution
Justice Department attorneys are advancing an argument at the Supreme Court that could allow the government to invoke international treaties as a legal basis for policies such as gun control that conflict with the U.S. Constitution, according to Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas.
Their argument is that a law implementing an international treaty signed by the U.S. allows the federal government to prosecute a criminal case that would normally be handled by state or local authorities.
That is a dangerous argument, according to Cruz.
"Normally handled"?

What is dangerous is whenever Ted opens his retarded mouth. Since the treaty does not violate any provision of the Constitution, the assumption that federal laws pursuant to the treaty violate the Constitution is false. Prior to the federal law making bank robbery a federal crime and empowering FBI jurisdiction, bank robbery was "normally" handled by state and local authorities. That was "dangerous"?
Fox News Propaganda

Brooklyn, NY

#177410 Nov 1, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Agreed.
Well, "we" didn't beat Germany. But we did help. Russia batted down the third reich nearly single handedly. Stalingrad I think would have been where they broke Germany.
What the US did... was create a respectable second front. Which isn't nothing. Tactically a nightmare compared to what they were dealing with previously.
And we did kick the crap out of the Japanese in the South Pacific. And they were tough fighters.
The difference is technology today. The U.S. has global air superiority. And if we don't have your airspace at the moment... we could own it in less than 48 hrs. We are unstoppable.
Hell, soon our pilots will be in bunkers with play station controllers. We are light years ahead of second place. The fact that a few thousand desert dwelling religious zealots have managed to not only withstand our military... but grow over time.
Indicates to me that we are not there to fight an enemy. And we never were.
Remember the first Iraq war?(When Iraq needed invaded and Pappa Bush made the wrong call on Sadam)
We kept hearing about the ultra-deadly elite republican guard.
After a week... they were just the republican guard.
Then they were just guards.
The only conflict I saw on a large scale... Is how to deal with the flood of people surrendering. They quit before we even got there.
The money we spend doing nothing in the middle east could fix A LOT of problems right here at home. Everyone wants to cry about how we are going broke. None of them seem willing to do the obvious solution.
Indicates to me, that we aren't trying to fix the economy. And we never intend to.
Everything in your post is spot on!

Well done!

Back in 1979 the Red Army took over Afghanistan in less than one week and spent the next ten years fighting an Internecine Guerrilla war.

The Russian Generals said nobody knew who the enemy was because the same Afghani person that cheered you on during the day was the same person who stabbed you in the back at night.

The Russian Bear lost with the second best military on earth and cost them dearly financially which lead to bankruptcy.

Terrorism is a tactic. Fear is the weapon of choice with random acts of violence.

Shoot and Scoot.

No war has been won by air power alone.

You need boots on the ground, logistics, and many other variables.

To win against Terrorism you have to use the same template as the Italians did in Palermo against La Cosa Nostra not that many years ago.

GOOD POLICE WORK! In concert with our friends worldwide.

The Italian army did not invade and blow up the whole city of Palermo Sicily and occupy it.
Fox News Propaganda

Brooklyn, NY

#177411 Nov 1, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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That's right Tootsie, Saddamn Hussein violated 27 UN mandates. At the end of the Persian Gulf War they agreed to a conditional "cease fire" and they continued to violate the terms of the cease fire. No more cease fire means back to war. It was Saddamn's decision.
Absolutely Not!

General Zinni took over for General Schwarzkopf Jr. and said the No Fly Zones and Sanctions worked against Saddam.

He also said Saddam was no threat to America or even to his neighbors.

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Powell and Rice assure everyone Iraq is NO THREAT pre-9/11



Charlie Rose - Sir Jeremy Greenstock: Tony Blair knew Iraq had no nuclear capability / http://tinyurl.com/6bc7vn
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#177412 Nov 1, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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And what the democrat party fears most is that its only their grubby fingerprints on this piece of legislation that is going to cause more then 50% of their party to realize that they have been shackled by their government. Liberal progressive socialism is fine with them as long as its only the rich that get soaked by their policies. That is not the case with the ACA and now they know it. That famous quote, "we are going to have to pass the bill to find out what's in it", coupled with the three huge lies told directly from the silver tongue of the Liar in Chief himself, "you can keep your policy if you like it, you can keep your doctor, and your going to save $2500 a year, period" will not be forgotten any time soon. Your continuing to keep that lie going only makes it a more damaging and powerful a lie. Trust is something that is earned over time wojar, but lost in a moment.
It was corporate greed, thought liberals, when the individual mandate was hatched in the Heritage Foundation. After being adopted by the dems, it morphed into socialism on RWNJ radio.

But don't let the facts spoil your narrative.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#177413 Nov 1, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
And what the democrat party fears most is that its only their grubby fingerprints on this piece of legislation that is going to cause more then 50% of their party to realize that they have been shackled by their government. Liberal progressive socialism is fine with them as long as its only the rich that get soaked by their policies. That is not the case with the ACA and now they know it. That famous quote, "we are going to have to pass the bill to find out what's in it", coupled with the three huge lies told directly from the silver tongue of the Liar in Chief himself, "you can keep your policy if you like it, you can keep your doctor, and your going to save $2500 a year, period" will not be forgotten any time soon. Your continuing to keep that lie going only makes it a more damaging and powerful a lie. Trust is something that is earned over time wojar, but lost in a moment.
The fact is most people will have comparable coverage or will be better off. Only about 3% will see an increase. Most will keep their doctor, RWNJ screaming notwithstanding. Many currently uninsured will have coverage. They will forget RWNJ outsized pseudo-moral outrage in a New York second.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The 97% who will have the same coverage or better at comparable or lower price will decide that all the screaming and shouting from the RWNJs was just scare mongering. That is what the tea baggers fear most.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#177414 Nov 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"The U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will cost taxpayers $4 trillion to $6 trillion, taking into account the medical care of wounded veterans and expensive repairs to a force depleted by more than a decade of fighting, according to a new study by a Harvard researcher."
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-28...
Ernesto Londoño,Iraq, Afghan wars will cost to $4 trillion to $6 trillion, Harvard study says, Washington Post, March 28, 2013.
Harvard would be one of my first targets if I had an arsenal of missiles. They are no friend to freedom loving people that believe our constitution should be followed and respected. Yale is not far behind.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#177415 Nov 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact is most people will have comparable coverage or will be better off. Only about 3% will see an increase. Most will keep their doctor, RWNJ screaming notwithstanding. Many currently uninsured will have coverage. They will forget RWNJ outsized pseudo-moral outrage in a New York second.
<quoted text>
That is a flat out lie. Let's just start with New York for example:

http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-o...

Projections predict that by January 1rst, 2015, more then 51% of those currently insured and liking the doctors and coverage in their policy will lose it as a result of the ACA. Your a liar wojar and nothing more.
Obskeptic

Farmington, MI

#177416 Nov 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
It was corporate greed, thought liberals, when the individual mandate was hatched in the Heritage Foundation. After being adopted by the dems, it morphed into socialism on RWNJ radio.
But don't let the facts spoil your narrative.
So at the same time you dog republicans for being idiots, your telling us that the democrats used their plan along with Romney's model in Massachusetts. You are unbelievable. I bet even your parents can't stand you, unless of course thats where you learned it from.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177417 Nov 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"The U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will cost taxpayers $4 trillion to $6 trillion, taking into account the medical care of wounded veterans and expensive repairs to a force depleted by more than a decade of fighting, according to a new study by a Harvard researcher."
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-03-28...
Ernesto Londoño,Iraq, Afghan wars will cost to $4 trillion to $6 trillion, Harvard study says, Washington Post, March 28, 2013.
You're going to compare a war to a website? A website that had plenty of time to be created correctly! BS, someone's pockets are getting lined. LMAO!

BTW, if we hadn't stayed on the trail of these terrorists, who knows what Al Qaeda would be today? Who knows how many times they would have attacked us in their cowardly fashion they're so known for? To you, this is a waste? Not to me.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177418 Nov 1, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
So at the same time you dog republicans for being idiots, your telling us that the democrats used their plan along with Romney's model in Massachusetts. You are unbelievable. I bet even your parents can't stand you, unless of course thats where you learned it from.
Now, that was funny! LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#177419 Nov 1, 2013
wojar wrote:
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If you buy Blue Cross/Blue Shield, or Aetna, or Cigna insurance the doctors won't want anything to do with it? There are no policies offered by "Obamacare". Dolt.
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Doctors will "go private"? Last time I checked most doctors are in private practice or work for corporate employers. What is Bayou Boy smoking?
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But, I want my very own ComaCare ID Card! LMAO!

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#177421 Nov 1, 2013
American Lady wrote:
FYI
Let me get this straight, in order to sign up for MEcare I have to give out more information than the BIG '0' had to, to become President of the U.S.?
~-~
What a 'tangled' WEB
they weaved ...
When first they PRACTICED
to 'deceive'
:~)
That is correct. Impeach the Kenyan-born Antichrist!
www.AE911truth.org

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177422 Nov 1, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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I would like to knock Mother Theresa off that list for you. Feel free to think what you like about her. But, incorruptible? You have got to pick another word.
To be honest, I don't recognize many names on your list. Mind saving me some time looking them up and just telling me who they are? Not to argue... just curious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =o6voAW_Go5YXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
30 mins a piece, second one is devoted to her alone. Both very informative. First one includes Gandhi, and the Dalai Lama both repulsive people.
I have a hard time with Penn and Teller. They are gross and boorish. And I don't see the point in stuff like "Fuck**G Mother Teresa" and "Fuck**g Ghandi" and "fuck**g Dalai Lama" , etc. I also hear a lot of rumours coming out of their foul mouths, rumours that, like Rogue, they do not substantiate, though yes, some of them must be true if one throws enough of them around. What's more, it seems that Terasa and Ghandi, to name just two, have not done a single positive thing in their lives, not unlike the Dalai Lama whom even I was never that impressed with, but there is a limit to lambasting people.

Christopher Hitchens video I have not seen yet, as the first one was after all 30 minutes long.

These people, unlike Teller and Penn, are not perfect, nor
did they ever claim to be. But then, who is?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#177423 Nov 1, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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That is a flat out lie. Let's just start with New York for example:
http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-o...
Projections predict that by January 1rst, 2015, more then 51% of those currently insured and liking the doctors and coverage in their policy will lose it as a result of the ACA. Your a liar wojar and nothing more.
http://nypost.com/2013/10/29/docs-resisting-o... trash and you know it. The medium is the message - McLuhan. So true.

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