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#176681 Oct 27, 2013
Stupid Libtards (is that a double negative?), they believe that communism and Fascism are not the same just because Hitler hated communists. Do you know that Communist hated Fascists too?
They both have the same goal and that is the common people serve the state (slavery).

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176682 Oct 27, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Amazing as it sounds, you hit it right on the head. They would feel better.
Rouge is the only one I have ever seen use Hitler as an atheist let alone a liberal...lol. It is denial in it's purist form. It kills him that a right wing christian nationalist movement is the greatest depiction of modern evil that we have.
The other three are commonly used as a rebuttal to anyone suggesting that religion is largely responsible for war throughout history. Which is a half-truth. War is rarely fought over religion it's self. That doesn't stop them from dragging god into it.
Stalin is the only one that flies as an atheist. And he never started a war.
Hey, I forgot, yes, Rogue incredibly labelled Hitler a Liberal. That's even more outlandish than calling him a Jew.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176683 Oct 27, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Amazing as it sounds, you hit it right on the head. They would feel better.
Rouge is the only one I have ever seen use Hitler as an atheist let alone a liberal...lol. It is denial in it's purist form. It kills him that a right wing christian nationalist movement is the greatest depiction of modern evil that we have.
The other three are commonly used as a rebuttal to anyone suggesting that religion is largely responsible for war throughout history. Which is a half-truth. War is rarely fought over religion it's self. That doesn't stop them from dragging god into it.
Stalin is the only one that flies as an atheist. And he never started a war.
all of the above's good, except that Stalin, a former seminarian,(got out as soon as he read the bible, but did gather torture and killing secrets from old testament and Inquisition) invaded Finland.

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#176684 Oct 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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and how many were killed by the Conquistadores in Central and South America? Were you aware that the Catholic gospels "bringers" killed, either by war or disease, over 60% of the population? That is a lot of people. How many killed during the 100-year war? How many killed by the Crusaders? How many horribly tortured and killed during the "Holy", yes, HOLY Inquisition? How many Christian Orthodox killed by the Crusaders in Constantinople - by their own brothers? Add to that the hundreds of thousands killed by Joshuah, 81 holocausts by him alone and by murderer Mohamad and his hoards of killers? Pretty much sums up religion up to now. And to think I've skipped over so many...
Incidentally, Hitler and Stalin were both Christian0-born, did you even know that and you ignored it when I said earlier on that Stalin had attended a seminary. Mao was a God onto himself, you know that, right down to the Mao bible, that little red book. As to Pol Pot, who knows?
How many Europeans where killed by syphilis? Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy in 1494, two years after Columbus discovered the new world and a year after he returned?
Again, I asked you what religion where Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot PRACTICING? Why several of you claimed to have been raised Catholic but are any of you practicing Catholics today?
And wasn't Chastity Bono born a female but is she still a female today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bono_Chaz_2...

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#176685 Oct 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Hey, I forgot, yes, Rogue incredibly labelled Hitler a Liberal. That's even more outlandish than calling him a Jew.
Where did I say Hitler was a "Liberal" or an "Atheist". He was a Fascist which is a form of Socialist and he was not a practicing Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. The NAZIs practice some sort of Aryan mysticism so I guess they where Pagans.

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#176686 Oct 27, 2013
Religious views of Adolf Hitler
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hitler in 1933

Adolf Hitler was raised by an anticlerical, sceptic father and a devout Catholic mother. Baptized and confirmed as a child in Austria, he ceased to participate in the sacraments after childhood. In adulthood, Hitler became disdainful of Christianity, but in seeking out and in trying to retain power in Germany, he was prepared to restrain his radical instincts out of political considerations. He said repeatedly that Nazism was a secular ideology founded on science.[1] It is generally believed by historians that Hitler's post war and long term goal was the eradication of Christianity in Germany.[2][3] Hitler appears not to have believed in the Judeo-Christian notion of God, though various scholars consider his final religious position may have been a form of deism. Others consider him "atheist". The question is debated. During his early career, and for a variety of reasons, he made various comments against non-Nazi atheistic (i.e. "Bolshevik") movements, and in favour of so-called positive Christianity (a movement which purged Christianity of its Jewish elements and instilled it with Nazi philosophy). In private, confidantes such as Martin Bormann, Joseph Goebbels and Albert Speer noted that he was hostile to Christianity (though Speer also wrote that he never formally left the Church).

I

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176687 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Where did I say Hitler was a "Liberal" or an "Atheist". He was a Fascist which is a form of Socialist and he was not a practicing Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. The NAZIs practice some sort of Aryan mysticism so I guess they where Pagans.
You wrote last week that he was a liberal. Are you denying it? You were mocked over the remark.

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Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176688 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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How many Europeans where killed by syphilis? Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy in 1494, two years after Columbus discovered the new world and a year after he returned?
Again, I asked you what religion where Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot PRACTICING? Why several of you claimed to have been raised Catholic but are any of you practicing Catholics today?
And wasn't Chastity Bono born a female but is she still a female today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bono_Chaz_2...
Rogue, transmissible diseases were only a part of the annihilation of Central and south American Natives by the Portuguese and mostly Spaniards, all in the name of our lord Jesus Christ. Don't you know this? There are but a few natives, for example, left in Argentina and Uruguay. Killed and/or deported. Killing of natives, though for economic interests instead of religion (same result : they still die or are displaced) is still a common occurrence in the Amazon regions of Brazil, what with foreign and local interests killing the natives in order to seize their lands, cut down the trees and create grazing lands and farms.

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Ottawa

#176689 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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How many Europeans where killed by syphilis? Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy in 1494, two years after Columbus discovered the new world and a year after he returned?
Again, I asked you what religion where Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot PRACTICING? Why several of you claimed to have been raised Catholic but are any of you practicing Catholics today?
And wasn't Chastity Bono born a female but is she still a female today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bono_Chaz_2...
You wrote : "Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy in 1494, two years after Columbus discovered the new world and a year after he returned?"

Educate me, Rogue, as I didn't know he EVER returned to Italy. All his crewmen were Spaniards. Returned to Italy ? Who? When?

Diseases and killing of the natives was done as a result of Europeans invading the new world. There is a difference between Columbus bringing back syphilis from the New World. The natives did not travel to Europe to bring syphilis to Europeans. And no natives came to Europe to murder them.

You have no grasp of history, Rogue, not even a smidgen of knowledge of our ancestors, why, you don't even know modern contemporary history, much less anything about the 15th century.

For you : Columbus hailed from Genova, Italia, but always said he was a Spaniard. He may have even been Jewish, as is rumoured (who knows?) but certainly, this would not have endeared him to Isabela la Catolica who was a rabit anti-Semite and anti-Moslem. She was to expel both in the year the Columbus discovered America.

Do I tell you how to pilot a Huey? No. I would be out of my element. In the same vein, don't get involved in politics or religion, both domestic and foreign, as you are, as I am with piloting copters, totally out of your league.
wojar

New Britain, CT

#176690 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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How many Europeans where killed by syphilis? Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy in 1494, two years after Columbus discovered the new world and a year after he returned?
Again, I asked you what religion where Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot PRACTICING? Why several of you claimed to have been raised Catholic but are any of you practicing Catholics today?
And wasn't Chastity Bono born a female but is she still a female today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bono_Chaz_2...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

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Since: Sep 09

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#176691 Oct 27, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Amazing as it sounds, you hit it right on the head. They would feel better.
Rouge is the only one I have ever seen use Hitler as an atheist let alone a liberal...lol. It is denial in it's purist form. It kills him that a right wing christian nationalist movement is the greatest depiction of modern evil that we have.
The other three are commonly used as a rebuttal to anyone suggesting that religion is largely responsible for war throughout history. Which is a half-truth. War is rarely fought over religion it's self. That doesn't stop them from dragging god into it.
Stalin is the only one that flies as an atheist. And he never started a war.
Applying Rouge's logic:

Christians don't hang people for their beliefs.
The Christian church leaders hanged people during the Salem Witch trials in America.
Therefore these church leaders weren't Christian.

Therefore

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Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#176692 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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So, it is basically a Muslim vs. non-Muslim ...... AGAIN. About 90% of all current armed conflicts on this Earth involve MUSLIMS!!! Do you hear of Hindu terrorist raids in Pakistan? Do you hear of Muslim terrorist raids in India?
By the way, China also claims parts of Kashmir!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kashmir_200...
Then what about
Colombian conflict (1964–present)/Sudanese nomadic conflicts/Inter and Intra-Sudanese conflicts/Communist insurgency in the Philippines/Kashmir conflict/Internal conflict in Burma/Papua conflict/Naxalite–Maoist insurgency/Internal conflict in Peru/Lord's Resistance Army insurgency/Xinjiang conflict/M23 rebellion?
wojar

New Britain, CT

#176693 Oct 27, 2013
Atticus Tiberius Finch wrote:
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Applying Rouge's logic:
Christians don't hang people for their beliefs.
The Christian church leaders hanged people during the Salem Witch trials in America.
Therefore these church leaders weren't Christian.
Therefore
I think they preferred burning them in France, to ease the transition to hell.
wojar

New Britain, CT

#176694 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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How many Europeans where killed by syphilis? Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy
I don't think it odd that Rouge thinks the first "recorded" case was the first case. Par for the post hoc course.

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#176695 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Again, what religion did Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot practice? They killed a hundred million people in the 29th Century!!!
Adolph Hitler was raised as a Roman Catholic. According to Mein Kampf, he acknowledged God. I know, you aren't familiar with facts.

"The two Christian denominations look on with indifference at the profanation and destruction of a noble and unique creature who was given to the world as a gift of God's grace. For the future of the world, however, it does not matter which of the two triumphs over the other, the Catholic or the Protestant. But it does matter whether Aryan humanity survives or perishes."

"The völkisch-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."

"And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God."

Hitler grew increasingly upset with the Holy See. He saw them as a political power and fought to eradicate any threats to his authority.

I have not studied Pol Pot nor Stalin. I will happily research them and present what I can find. In the end, you seem content to ridicule those who believe in a deity other than yours but condemn them for doing the same to you. What did Jesus say about hypocrites?

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#176697 Oct 27, 2013
INTERESTING OBSERVATION

1. The sport of choice for the urban poor is BASKETBALL.

2. The sport of choice for maintenance level employees is BOWLING.

3. The sport of choice for front-line workers is FOOTBALL.

4. The sport of choice for supervisors is BASEBALL.

5. The sport of choice for middle management is TENNIS.

And...

6. The sport of choice for corporate executives and officers is GOLF.

THE AMAZING CONCLUSION:

The higher you go in the corporate structure, the smaller your balls
become. There must be a boat load of people in Washington playing
marbles.

You know you WILL PASS THIS ONE ON!

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#176698 Oct 27, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
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Problem! It was not enacted upon a spending bill that originated in the House of Representatives as required by the Constitution, thereby making it an illegal law, enacted by a usurper!
Psst, there is no such thing as a Republicant, only RepubliCAN!
NEXT!
The Supreme Court of the United States disagrees with your whining.

Republicants are those who whine and never offer an alternative. They claim to be victims and have selective memories. You qualify.

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#176699 Oct 27, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Amazing as it sounds, you hit it right on the head. They would feel better.
Rouge is the only one I have ever seen use Hitler as an atheist let alone a liberal...lol. It is denial in it's purist form. It kills him that a right wing christian nationalist movement is the greatest depiction of modern evil that we have.
The other three are commonly used as a rebuttal to anyone suggesting that religion is largely responsible for war throughout history. Which is a half-truth. War is rarely fought over religion it's self. That doesn't stop them from dragging god into it.
Stalin is the only one that flies as an atheist. And he never started a war.
Several points here. You can show anyone where I said Hitler was a "liberal" nor did I say he was an "atheist". It is YOU who have claimed most wars have been caused by religions and ALL I have said is that in the past hundred years you are wrong. In fact I challenged you to tell us what religion Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot PRACTICED and you have failed to do so.
Sure Jacqueau proved that Hitler and Stalin were raised as Christians but as an adult Hitler and Stalin was no more a Christian than Jacqueau is today.
Oh, who invaded Finland in November 1939? It was not Germany as Germany was their ally!!! Who invaded eastern Poland in September 1939? It was not Germany as, at the time, Germany was THEIR ally against Poland!
Have you ever studied history before? Tell us, how many books have you read by Voltan? Mayan gawd of earth?

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#176700 Oct 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You wrote last week that he was a liberal. Are you denying it? You were mocked over the remark.
No I did not say Hitler was a liberal .... and you can not prove I did!!!

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#176701 Oct 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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How many Europeans where killed by syphilis? Do you think it odd that the first recorded case of syphilis was recorded in northern Italy in 1494, two years after Columbus discovered the new world and a year after he returned?
Again, I asked you what religion where Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot PRACTICING? Why several of you claimed to have been raised Catholic but are any of you practicing Catholics today?
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue, transmissible diseases were only a part of the annihilation of Central and south American Natives by the Portuguese and mostly Spaniards, all in the name of our lord Jesus Christ. Don't you know this? There are but a few natives, for example, left in Argentina and Uruguay. Killed and/or deported. Killing of natives, though for economic interests instead of religion (same result : they still die or are displaced) is still a common occurrence in the Amazon regions of Brazil, what with foreign and local interests killing the natives in order to seize their lands, cut down the trees and create grazing lands and farms.
Back tracking on the disease issue, hey! We did not intentional infect them any more than they intentionally infected the Europeans.
The Spaniards and Portuguese went to the new world for treasure while their priests went along to convert them and yes, many died in the subjugation.
Whereas about 10% of all Europeans died of syphilis in the twenty years after Columbus returned to Europe probably half of all American Indians died of small pox during the first fifty years after Columbus arrived there but neither side did it intentionally. What good is a dead slave?!?
By the way, Amazonian forests are still 95% old growth! And it is not the "lungs of the Earth" as you Libtards claim as the trees are dying, and rotting, at the same rate they are growing!
If you want forests to be net producers of oxygen, you need to clear cut them and put the wood where it will not rot while the forest regrows.

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