BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Jan 8, 2009, Chicago Tribune story titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176233 Oct 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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What's that you say, Mr. 6 Year Old? You're going to have to speak up, no one can hear that tiny voice of yours. Then again, no one wants to either! LMAO!
Are you an attorney? No
Are you a lawyer? No.

Yet, you call yourself "Justice LRS"

Is that what we'd call playing justice or just plain "play law?"
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176234 Oct 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Are you an attorney? No
Are you a lawyer? No.
Yet, you call yourself "Justice LRS"
Is that what we'd call playing justice or just plain "play law?"
What? Nevermind ladies, that was only a mouse breaking wind! LMAO!
wojar

Bristol, CT

#176235 Oct 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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What? We can't hear you, Mr. 6 Year Old!
"Can you hear us coming?"

LMAO.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#176236 Oct 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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LMAO! What-A-Fool!
Justice Dale's Play Law twin forgot to put LMAO at the end.

Oops.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#176237 Oct 24, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Barack Obama's father was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day.
Answer: So?

EVERY child born on US soil (Yes, including the children of illegal aliens) is a Natural Born US Citizen and is eligible to become president at the age of 35.

the definition of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the PLACE of birth, not to the parents of a US-born citizen.

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

"Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other.“Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297... )

"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176238 Oct 24, 2013
wojar wrote:
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"Can you hear us coming?"
LMAO.
HUH? Oh, just another mouse fart! LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176239 Oct 24, 2013
What's da matta Mr. 6 Year Old? Someone else's sphincter got your tongue? LMAO! I bet it's Path, isn't it? LMAO! lil raggy
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176240 Oct 24, 2013
Aww, the lil 6 Year Old ran off to throw a tantrum and soil himself!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176241 Oct 24, 2013
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/06...

My, my, that paints a different picture, doesn't it Pathological Liar? LMAO Fool
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#176242 Oct 24, 2013
Looks like Romper is having a bad day - even by Birfoon standards
Obskeptic

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#176243 Oct 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Why do you spread WMD.com and Foxnews.com - type propaganda and falsehoods on this thread, especially knowing it is false? He did not attend a "Madrassa" type of school, but rather the very non-Moslem St Francis of Assisi school , a public school and was, apparently, home-schooled by his mother who was more than qualified to do so. The results bear witness to that.
He is a leader, as he has more than shown lately, like it or not. As to being brilliant, let's let historians decide that after 2016 after Hilary Clinton or Joe Biden take over.
The point I have made here is not only how quick those of you on the left are to defend Barry no matter what, but that the way the left manipulates words and uses half truths in their lying is what makes their lying so powerful. Like Congressman Grayson from Florida, who is just one example of the lying left and how outrageous they are, and mostly get a pass from the media.

"In January, CNN reported that allegations that Obama was educated in a madrassa were inaccurate, after Insight Magazine had first spread the rumors. Weeks ago, the Washington Post resurfaced the story in a front page article that painted the madrassa rumors as part of a greater smear campaign against Obama. The paper was widely criticized for failing to point out that the allegations were proven false.

In a technical sense, Kerrey's words were not entirely untrue. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the term madrassa means a "Muslim school, college or university that is often part of a mosque." And Obama has acknowleged that as a child in Indonesia he did attend a "Muslim school."

However, madrassa is a charged word because of the schools' connections to radical Islam. Obama has consistently denied that he was educated in this type of system."
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#176244 Oct 24, 2013
Re: "And Obama has acknowleged that as a child in Indonesia he did attend a "Muslim school."

Please provide words in which he "acknowledged." He acknowledged that he attended school in Indonesia, for sure, and Indonesia is a Muslim country. But where did he say that he attended a "Muslim school"? A Catholic school is not a Muslim school, so that cannot be it, and a public school is not a "Muslim school" either. So, where did Obama say it. Articles claiming that "Obama acknowledged it" are not proof. They can claim that he "acknowledged" all that they want to. Unless there are words "I attended a Muslim school"--he DIDN'T "acknowledge," and more importantly, he didn't attend.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176245 Oct 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Aww, the lil 6 Year Old ran off to throw a tantrum and soil himself!
Oh, and all this time, I thought the "kerplunk" came from you.

Where is that confession I drafted for you?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176246 Oct 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
What's da matta Mr. 6 Year Old? Someone else's sphincter got your tongue? LMAO! I bet it's Path, isn't it? LMAO! lil raggy
" sphincter " Back to your anal obsessions/phantasms, I see.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176247 Oct 24, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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The point I have made here is not only how quick those of you on the left are to defend Barry no matter what, but that the way the left manipulates words and uses half truths in their lying is what makes their lying so powerful. Like Congressman Grayson from Florida, who is just one example of the lying left and how outrageous they are, and mostly get a pass from the media.
"In January, CNN reported that allegations that Obama was educated in a madrassa were inaccurate, after Insight Magazine had first spread the rumors. Weeks ago, the Washington Post resurfaced the story in a front page article that painted the madrassa rumors as part of a greater smear campaign against Obama. The paper was widely criticized for failing to point out that the allegations were proven false.
In a technical sense, Kerrey's words were not entirely untrue. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, the term madrassa means a "Muslim school, college or university that is often part of a mosque." And Obama has acknowleged that as a child in Indonesia he did attend a "Muslim school."
However, madrassa is a charged word because of the schools' connections to radical Islam. Obama has consistently denied that he was educated in this type of system."
You are so sold out to the right wing alliances and anti-Obama and Murdoch factions that you believe anything they say and publish. It's well-known what schools Obama frequented whilst in Indonesia and none were Moslem. And what if they were? But they were not. Also, you said earlier he had been in Indonesia for almost 10 years. Why? 4 years max is the period he spent there.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176248 Oct 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You are so sold out to the right wing alliances and anti-Obama and Murdoch factions that you believe anything they say and publish. It's well-known what schools Obama frequented whilst in Indonesia and none were Moslem. And what if they were? But they were not. Also, you said earlier he had been in Indonesia for almost 10 years. Why? 4 years max is the period he spent there.
I apologize. I should not have written "You are so sold out to the right wing alliances". I should have written something like "why do you believe right wing media... as long as they rail against Obama? " or something to that effect?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#176249 Oct 24, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Re: "And Obama has acknowleged that as a child in Indonesia he did attend a "Muslim school."
Please provide words in which he "acknowledged." He acknowledged that he attended school in Indonesia, for sure, and Indonesia is a Muslim country. But where did he say that he attended a "Muslim school"? A Catholic school is not a Muslim school, so that cannot be it, and a public school is not a "Muslim school" either. So, where did Obama say it. Articles claiming that "Obama acknowledged it" are not proof. They can claim that he "acknowledged" all that they want to. Unless there are words "I attended a Muslim school"--he DIDN'T "acknowledge," and more importantly, he didn't attend.
You wrote : ""And Obama has acknowleged that as a child in Indonesia he did attend a "Muslim school."

Please provide words in which he "acknowledged"

I'm also very curious. But don't hold your breath. They hear it, they like it, and they make it come true. That is why the score is now 0-210
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176250 Oct 24, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
Looks like Romper is having a bad day - even by Birfoon standards
You should stop trying to think.

“ad maiora nati sumus ”

Since: Sep 09

Justice Scalia is an Oxymoron

#176252 Oct 24, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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Let us not forget that young Barry, from age 3 I think until 10, was officially an adopted citizen of Indonesia....
How does go about becoming an "officially an adopted citizen of Indonesia back in the 1960s?

Let's find out by actually reading the applicable Indoonesian statutes governing adoptions and citizenships during that time period.

Adoption:

The law in question is Law No. 62 of 1958, Law on the Citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, 62/1958 for short. Assuming an adoption took place, it would fall under Article 2 of this law.
"Article 2.

(1)A foreign child of less THAN 5 YEARS AGE who is adopted by a citizen of the Republic of Indonesia acquires the citizenship of the Republic of Indonesia, if such an adoption is declared legal by the Pengadilan Negeri at the residence of the person adopting the child." (emphasis added)

Note the age limit there - less than 5 years of age. Lolo Soetoro married Stanley Ann Dunham in either 1966 or 1967. This would have made Obama either five or six - over the age limit according to Indonesian law. Furthermore, they didn't move to Indonesia until 1967, when Obama was six years old.

Therefore, under Indonesian law, there was no way via adoption that Indonesian citizenship could have been granted to Barack Obama.

Indonesian citizenship:

In order to apply for an Indonesian citizenship, a foreigner must have lived in the country for a consecutive period of at least five years, or 10 years not consecutively. Law No. 62/1958

As such, Obama, being a foreigner in Indonesia, in order to obtain an Indonesian passport would have to live in Indonesia for at least five years or ten years not consecutively. Clearly, by only being in Indonesia for THREE years as a minor, he couldn't have obtained an Indonesian passport.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#176253 Oct 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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What? We can't hear you, Mr. 6 Year Old!
"We"?

Now which cases have the Justices of the Play Court remanded lately? And who is listening?
wojar wrote:
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The barely literate Play Justice will "review" issues in his Play High Court if they are "worthy".
How sad.

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