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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Oct 22, 2013
 
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They do know everything Rogue, just disagree with one of them. We know that Barry is the leading expert in the country on Healthcare. He is also the leading expert on "green energy". He is also the leading expert on immigration. He is also the leading expert on education. He is also the worlds most brilliant economist. He is also the worlds leading expert on foreign policy. He is also the worlds leading expert on human rights. He is also an expert at creating jobs. He is the countries leading expert on arbitrating "fairness". He is also a leading expert on military strategy. He is also a christian, because he tells us he is, although his thin skin demeanor and inability to take responsibility for anything would cause one to question his sincerity. His experience as a community organizer, a TelePrompTer reader, and a constitutional "professor" is how he gained all that experience to make him all these things. If only George W. Bush and those pesky republicans had not made such a complicated mess of things, he would have been able to fix it all. Maybe if he turned to the private sector to help him solve some of these problems, like he has had to do with the healthcare website, rather then take it all on by his lonesome, we would be improving rather then continuing to stagnate. At least he has been able to work on his golf game extensively, since he doesn't have anything more important to do.
Well, Obama may not be the world's leading health care expert,but he has given the country a start.Which is more than any other administration can say.Your calling him "Barry" is a total sign of disrespect,btw;

Leading expert on "green energy"? Maybe not,but he's initiated it to a point.Green energy as opposed to fossil fuel is like the first cars were to the horse and buggy.You gotta go for it even though it is costing more than what we are using now.And remember, gas and maintenance of autos was much more expensive than hay and the occasional visit to the blacksmith;

On education,he may not be making it better,but it was not exactly world class when he got there.Let's hope he moves on that;

World's leading economist?He never claimed that title.That belonged to GWB and the wonderful legacy he left in 2008;

Foreign affairs?I find he has pretty good relations with rest of the world,much improved since he took office compared to the disastrous relations of the period 2000-2008.The two unfunded and unwarranted wars were no help;

Creating jobs?In December 2009, unemployment was over 10%.It's 7.2 as we speak. Yes,the numbers juggled.They've always been,why blame him?.It's probably more like 10,as the over 10%, GWB's legacy, was probably 15%;

Fairness?Do you find it fair that 50 million U.S. citizens have no health coverage,that over 100 million are expensively and badly covered?You like the status quo?;

Christian?What business is that of yours?If you want my opinion, he is a token Christian,too intelligent to believe in a so-called religion that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught us.Like all presidents except Carter,he goes to Church now and then to garner votes.All presidents did that,including the atheist or close-to-atheist Lincoln.What disturbs me most though,is that you wrote:" skin demeanor ".. that somehow affects his sincerity?;

What's wrong with being a community organiser?And he was more than that,having contacts and working amongst the poor.Harvard law review president.That doesn't count?Envy showing much?;

Golf game?Which president has taken the most annual leave? Hmmm, GWB?;

Turn to private corporations?The same ones that don't pay taxes and ship jobs and precious dollars offshore? Suuuuuure.The ones that are best places to "police" themselves?LMAO (LRs tm reg'd).

Now tell me I'm too often on Topix. Oh I checked, counted my posts for that last 24 hours. Added time spent reading others' and writing : About 45 minutes in all of 24 hrs.I don't spend one hr writing a post.

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Oct 22, 2013
 
Here is something to chew on. Now we have the Supreme Court in it also!!!

SNOPES NO MORE!

Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any anti Obama in it were negated by Snopes. I thought that was odd. Check this out.

Snopes, Soros, and the Supreme Court's Kagan. Well now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes! Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros, a big time supporter of Obama and many other left wing organizations! In our Search for the truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice. Elena Kagan, who Obama appointed, and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets.
So I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied! Everyone of those dockets are there.

So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elana Kagan and Barak Obama dockets:

The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really shocking.

Thank You. I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I doubt it.

That being said, Ill bet you didn't know this.

Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship. Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics at its best and the beat goes on and on and on.

Once again the US Senate sold us out!

Now we know why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court. Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship. He owed her big time. All of the requests were denied of course.

They were never heard.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?
The American people mean nothing any longer. It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there.

Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:

You can look up some of these hearings and guess what? Elana Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!
Check out these examples:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx...

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx...

http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx...

If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.

However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. Constitution, by all means, PASS it ON!

There truly is tyranny afoot.

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<quoted text>No, I don't channel, but I do know, we ALL of us know, that Lincoln was smart, wise and compassionate. Is that a Republican quality? I think not. And that list I posted...you really think he'd talk to those people? NOT
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Of course he would talk to them. He might not (would not) agree with them on every issue but Lincoln wasn't a closed minded, myopic "us v them" moron like Obama.
Agreed.

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Oct 22, 2013
 
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Jon Stewart rips into Obamacare, Obama’s approval rating continues to slide, and oh yeah, Canada has death panels… but it’s a good thing
Tuesday, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM EDT
In the wake of President Obama’s Obamacare pep rally in the Rose Garden yesterday, it does not appear as though anyone is buying the ‘don’t worry, our product is great’ message the President was trying to sell. Glenn opened the radio program this morning playing the nearly 10 minute scathing Obamacare critique that came courtesy of Jon Stewart last night on The Daily Show.
“You know what feels really good,” Glenn asked.“Just a moment of Jon Stewart seeing sanity. Here he is last night basically saying,‘Really, Obamacare? Bring it on.’”
According to Stewart, after the Republicans disastrous handling of the debt ceiling deal, all Democrats needed to do in order to secure a political advantage was execute the implementation of Obamacare in a “mildly competent” fashion. But, as Stewart openly admits, that certainly did not happen.
Watch Stewart’s Obamacare takedown via Comedy Central (Warning: Some strong language):
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You wrote: "Canada has death panels". It does not. You wrote that before. Still not true though proponents of euthanasia have put it, courts have refused to approve it. Our life expectancy is 3 years more than yours. Which means our death panels must not be doing their job.

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Oct 22, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Here is something to chew on. Now we have the Supreme Court in it also!!!
SNOPES NO MORE!
Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any anti Obama in it were negated by Snopes. I thought that was odd. Check this out.
Snopes, Soros, and the Supreme Court's Kagan. Well now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes! Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?
We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros!
Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros, a big time supporter of Obama and many other left wing organizations! In our Search for the truth department, we find what I have suspected on many occasions.
I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new Supreme Court Justice. Elena Kagan, who Obama appointed, and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such dockets.
So I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?
Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied! Everyone of those dockets are there.
So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:
Referencing the article about Elana Kagan and Barak Obama dockets:
The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.
I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.
I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really shocking.
Thank You. I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I doubt it.
That being said, Ill bet you didn't know this.
Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship. Now she may help rule on them.
Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics at its best and the beat goes on and on and on.
Once again the US Senate sold us out!
Now we know why Obama nominated Elana Kagan for the Supreme Court. Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.
She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship. He owed her big time. All of the requests were denied of course.
They were never heard.
It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?
The American people mean nothing any longer. It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there.
Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:
You can look up some of these hearings and guess what? Elana Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!
Check out these examples:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx...
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx...
http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx...
If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.
However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. Constitution, by all means, PASS it ON!
There truly is tyranny afoot.
Sorry, loser, Kagan was never "representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his citizenship." He didn't have to "prove his citizenship". He was already President of the United States.

Get a life.
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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Jon Stewart rips into Obamacare, Obama’s approval rating continues to slide, and oh yeah, Canada has death panels… but it’s a good thing
Tuesday, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM EDT
In the wake of President Obama’s Obamacare pep rally in the Rose Garden yesterday, it does not appear as though anyone is buying the ‘don’t worry, our product is great’ message the President was trying to sell. Glenn opened the radio program this morning playing the nearly 10 minute scathing Obamacare critique that came courtesy of Jon Stewart last night on The Daily Show.
“You know what feels really good,” Glenn asked.“Just a moment of Jon Stewart seeing sanity. Here he is last night basically saying,‘Really, Obamacare? Bring it on.’”
According to Stewart, after the Republicans disastrous handling of the debt ceiling deal, all Democrats needed to do in order to secure a political advantage was execute the implementation of Obamacare in a “mildly competent” fashion. But, as Stewart openly admits, that certainly did not happen.
Watch Stewart’s Obamacare takedown via Comedy Central (Warning: Some strong language):
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The Coming Grand Bargain:'We're All Neoliberals Now'
October 22, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/keuzegk

After the U.S. government shutdown you'd expect Republicans and Democrats to remain at each others’ throats, so different was their vision for the country, or so it appeared.
In reality, however, only a bit of the political theater was reserved for "Tea Party" Republicans to invest in their political future by denouncing Obamacare, which they know will enrage millions of people forced to buy shoddy corporate health care; many of these future victims of Obamacare will become diehard Teapartiers.

But the real intent behind the government shutdown was lost on the mute American media. The Republicans were once again allowed to use the threat of government default to steer the Obama administration to the right — the right-leaning tail wagging the dog of government in the direction of a "Grand Bargain" to cut "entitlement" programs such as Social Security, Medicare, and other public services.

But like real dogs, government body and tail cannot be separated: the Democrats are allowing themselves to be "wagged" because they fully agree with the Republican's neoliberal agenda.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/10/22-0

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Oct 22, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Here is something to chew on. Now we have the Supreme Court in it also!!!
SNOPES NO MORE!

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship. He owed her big time. All of the requests were denied of course.
They were never heard.
Cool! The Supreme Court, without Kagan on the bench told birfoons, while stifling laughter, to get lost, and yet Rougie fantasizes that Kagan was nominated because she might influence the court?

Is Rougie on LSD?

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<quoted text>I did explain it. Read it for heaven's sake. I've asked you to explain at least 5 things last few days . Still waiting.
Sigh. Cruz is the birfoon buffoon tea party leader. He influenced the congressmen with his rhetoric, his filibuster particularly. He read Dr Seuss, which amazed the tea partyers and birthers as it lulled them to sleep and cost over $24 billion, interruptions in services and ill will both from within and without.
He is NOT a leader anywhere! He is just ONE senator and Dirty Hair Reid did not allow any votes until the very last one that reopened everything.
There was NO filibuster. It was an after hours speech that lasted 21 hours and he was required to yield when the Senate reopened at noon on Sep. 25th.
Now if you want to know what a real filibuster is how about the one done by Democrats trying to hold up the Civil Rights Act of 1964 by .... Robert KKK Byrd .... who was also the ONLY Northern Senator to vote against the Civil Rights Act.
http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/m...
Ted Cruz's speech did not delay the Senate even one second as he yielded at noon when the Senate reopened. But Robert KKK Byrd did delay the Senate.

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Oct 22, 2013
 
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In a normal day, how many times do you actually understand what someone says to you? Any? LMAO!
The problem is that birfoon does not understand what he is saying.

If a group children, each with one of their parents parents, were in separate rooms, and then got together for dinner, one may ask, are the children and their parents assembled yet in the dining room? Using birfoons logic, the answer could never be “yes” because "both parentS [hee hee]" of each child were not present. That is simply irrational and illustrates a certain degree of cognitive dysfunction in birfoons.

BirfoonBoy needs psychiatric help.
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So both parents of each child were present at the single parents' meeting because it takes two to make a baby?
Romper is off his rocker.
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Oct 22, 2013
 
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
New Report: UK Crime Statistics Fudged to Justify Gun Ban
Posted By Philip Hodges on Oct 22, 2013
How many times have we heard Piers Morgan rant and rave about crime rates in his home country? He claims gun violence is virtually nonexistent thanks to the Brits doing the “responsible” thing and taking everyone’s guns away in 1997. Sure, there was an acknowledged, initial spike in crime shortly thereafter, but then it began to fall and has since plummeted. Or so they say.
It turns out that they have an entire bureaucracy over there devoted not to fighting crime, but fighting crime statistics. Their job is to determine which crimes get recorded as crimes and which get categorized as something else, which ends up not affecting the overall crime rate.
In other words, if there is an attempted burglary, it might get reported initially by a victim or a witness, but it also might end up being categorized as “criminal damage” instead of burglary. Or if there’s an instance of what they call “Grievous Bodily Harm,” it might get categorized as “common assault.” When they downgrade the category, it affects how crime statistics are eventually reported in the media, and those numbers are the ones that find their way to Piers Morgan, who then trumpets them from his TV show so that everyone knows how effective gun control is.
Read more at http://lastresistance.com/3441/new-report-uk-...
I read about the way they categorize crimes a couple of months back. Even the way they categorize murders or attempted murders is crazy. It most certainly changes the stats and presents an illusion.
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Oct 22, 2013
 
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That's so pathetic. BirfoonBoy thinks a birfoon web site is an authority on US law. Alexander Gofen is a birfoon who spouts Vattel as US law but doesn't even understand Vattel. Does BirfoonBoy believe a birfoon website's declarations constitute binding authority?
Clue: Nowhere does Vattel claim that natural born citizens must have two citizen parents. Indeed, Vattel claims the citizenship of the children follow that of the father, a rule that was never practiced in the United States.
If Vattel's rule had been the law in the US, children of e.g., French or German immigrants would have been ALIENS. Obviously not the rule that was followed in this country. Why cannot the birfoon cite ONE CASE where a person born in the US after ratification of the Constitution was denied intestate inheritance on the basis of alienage per Vattel?
Never happened.
Sorry Mr. Play Justice.
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LMAO! Too bad, kid.
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Well, Obama may not be the world's leading health care expert,but he has given the country a start.Which is more than any other administration can say.Your calling him "Barry" is a total sign of disrespect,btw;
Leading expert on "green energy"? Maybe not,but he's initiated it to a point.Green energy as opposed to fossil fuel is like the first cars were to the horse and buggy.You gotta go for it even though it is costing more than what we are using now.And remember, gas and maintenance of autos was much more expensive than hay and the occasional visit to the blacksmith;
On education,he may not be making it better,but it was not exactly world class when he got there.Let's hope he moves on that;
World's leading economist?He never claimed that title.That belonged to GWB and the wonderful legacy he left in 2008;
Foreign affairs?I find he has pretty good relations with rest of the world,much improved since he took office compared to the disastrous relations of the period 2000-2008.The two unfunded and unwarranted wars were no help;
Creating jobs?In December 2009, unemployment was over 10%.It's 7.2 as we speak. Yes,the numbers juggled.They've always been,why blame him?.It's probably more like 10,as the over 10%, GWB's legacy, was probably 15%;
Fairness?Do you find it fair that 50 million U.S. citizens have no health coverage,that over 100 million are expensively and badly covered?You like the status quo?;
Christian?What business is that of yours?If you want my opinion, he is a token Christian,too intelligent to believe in a so-called religion that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught us.Like all presidents except Carter,he goes to Church now and then to garner votes.All presidents did that,including the atheist or close-to-atheist Lincoln.What disturbs me most though,is that you wrote:" skin demeanor ".. that somehow affects his sincerity?;
What's wrong with being a community organiser?And he was more than that,having contacts and working amongst the poor.Harvard law review president.That doesn't count?Envy showing much?;
Golf game?Which president has taken the most annual leave? Hmmm, GWB?;
Turn to private corporations?The same ones that don't pay taxes and ship jobs and precious dollars offshore? Suuuuuure.The ones that are best places to "police" themselves?LMAO (LRs tm reg'd).
Now tell me I'm too often on Topix. Oh I checked, counted my posts for that last 24 hours. Added time spent reading others' and writing : About 45 minutes in all of 24 hrs.I don't spend one hr writing a post.
Why do you make excuse after excuse for ObobbleHead? 45 minutes, my azz! LMAO! Good one.
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Cool! The Supreme Court, without Kagan on the bench told birfoons, while stifling laughter, to get lost, and yet Rougie fantasizes that Kagan was nominated because she might influence the court?
Is Rougie on LSD?
And she told the 6 year old to have someone change his diaper.

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Oct 22, 2013
 
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LMAO! Too bad, kid.
Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?

Yup, too bad, loser.

If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?

Eh, sonny?
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That's so pathetic. BirfoonBoy thinks a birfoon web site is an authority on US law. Alexander Gofen is a birfoon who spouts Vattel as US law but doesn't even understand Vattel. Does BirfoonBoy believe a birfoon website's declarations constitute binding authority?
Clue: Nowhere does Vattel claim that natural born citizens must have two citizen parents. Indeed, Vattel claims the citizenship of the children follow that of the father, a rule that was never practiced in the United States.
If Vattel's rule had been the law in the US, children of e.g., French or German immigrants would have been ALIENS. Obviously not the rule that was followed in this country. Why cannot the birfoon cite ONE CASE where a person born in the US after ratification of the Constitution was denied intestate inheritance on the basis of alienage per Vattel?
Never happened.
Sorry Mr. Play Justice.
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The problem is that birfoon does not understand what he is saying.
If a group children, each with one of their parents parents, were in separate rooms, and then got together for dinner, one may ask, are the children and their parents assembled yet in the dining room? Using birfoons logic, the answer could never be “yes” because "both parentS [hee hee]" of each child were not present. That is simply irrational and illustrates a certain degree of cognitive dysfunction in birfoons.
BirfoonBoy needs psychiatric help.
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Thank you for the honest answer. So, in a normal day you understand nothing anyone says to you. I'm not surprised. LMAO!
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Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?
Yup, too bad, loser.
If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?
Eh, sonny?
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A child born of citizen parentS. Thank you. Second generation at least! LMAO! moronic twit
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<quoted text>A child born of citizen parentS. Thank you. Second generation at least! LMAO! moronic twit
More Romper fableS. Sucks to be Romper

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Oct 22, 2013
 
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Dale uses LMAO at the beginning, and LRS at the end. Look at your last posts, slug.
Justice LRS wrote:
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LMAO! Too bad, kid.
Oops!
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Oct 22, 2013
 
wojar wrote:
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Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?
Yup, too bad, loser.
If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?
Eh, sonny?
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That's really too bad fer ya, kid. Guess you should carry your commie azz to another country, huh? Or, maybe you could return to your grass hut mansion! Tip: when rebuilding, start with the ground floor! LMAO!
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More Romper fableS. Sucks to be Romper
Spine tingling!

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