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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176037 Oct 22, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
New Report: UK Crime Statistics Fudged to Justify Gun Ban
Posted By Philip Hodges on Oct 22, 2013
How many times have we heard Piers Morgan rant and rave about crime rates in his home country? He claims gun violence is virtually nonexistent thanks to the Brits doing the “responsible” thing and taking everyone’s guns away in 1997. Sure, there was an acknowledged, initial spike in crime shortly thereafter, but then it began to fall and has since plummeted. Or so they say.
It turns out that they have an entire bureaucracy over there devoted not to fighting crime, but fighting crime statistics. Their job is to determine which crimes get recorded as crimes and which get categorized as something else, which ends up not affecting the overall crime rate.
In other words, if there is an attempted burglary, it might get reported initially by a victim or a witness, but it also might end up being categorized as “criminal damage” instead of burglary. Or if there’s an instance of what they call “Grievous Bodily Harm,” it might get categorized as “common assault.” When they downgrade the category, it affects how crime statistics are eventually reported in the media, and those numbers are the ones that find their way to Piers Morgan, who then trumpets them from his TV show so that everyone knows how effective gun control is.
Read more at http://lastresistance.com/3441/new-report-uk-...
I read about the way they categorize crimes a couple of months back. Even the way they categorize murders or attempted murders is crazy. It most certainly changes the stats and presents an illusion.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176038 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's so pathetic. BirfoonBoy thinks a birfoon web site is an authority on US law. Alexander Gofen is a birfoon who spouts Vattel as US law but doesn't even understand Vattel. Does BirfoonBoy believe a birfoon website's declarations constitute binding authority?
Clue: Nowhere does Vattel claim that natural born citizens must have two citizen parents. Indeed, Vattel claims the citizenship of the children follow that of the father, a rule that was never practiced in the United States.
If Vattel's rule had been the law in the US, children of e.g., French or German immigrants would have been ALIENS. Obviously not the rule that was followed in this country. Why cannot the birfoon cite ONE CASE where a person born in the US after ratification of the Constitution was denied intestate inheritance on the basis of alienage per Vattel?
Never happened.
Sorry Mr. Play Justice.
<quoted text>
LMAO! Too bad, kid.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176039 Oct 22, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Obama may not be the world's leading health care expert,but he has given the country a start.Which is more than any other administration can say.Your calling him "Barry" is a total sign of disrespect,btw;
Leading expert on "green energy"? Maybe not,but he's initiated it to a point.Green energy as opposed to fossil fuel is like the first cars were to the horse and buggy.You gotta go for it even though it is costing more than what we are using now.And remember, gas and maintenance of autos was much more expensive than hay and the occasional visit to the blacksmith;
On education,he may not be making it better,but it was not exactly world class when he got there.Let's hope he moves on that;
World's leading economist?He never claimed that title.That belonged to GWB and the wonderful legacy he left in 2008;
Foreign affairs?I find he has pretty good relations with rest of the world,much improved since he took office compared to the disastrous relations of the period 2000-2008.The two unfunded and unwarranted wars were no help;
Creating jobs?In December 2009, unemployment was over 10%.It's 7.2 as we speak. Yes,the numbers juggled.They've always been,why blame him?.It's probably more like 10,as the over 10%, GWB's legacy, was probably 15%;
Fairness?Do you find it fair that 50 million U.S. citizens have no health coverage,that over 100 million are expensively and badly covered?You like the status quo?;
Christian?What business is that of yours?If you want my opinion, he is a token Christian,too intelligent to believe in a so-called religion that teaches the opposite of what Christ taught us.Like all presidents except Carter,he goes to Church now and then to garner votes.All presidents did that,including the atheist or close-to-atheist Lincoln.What disturbs me most though,is that you wrote:" skin demeanor ".. that somehow affects his sincerity?;
What's wrong with being a community organiser?And he was more than that,having contacts and working amongst the poor.Harvard law review president.That doesn't count?Envy showing much?;
Golf game?Which president has taken the most annual leave? Hmmm, GWB?;
Turn to private corporations?The same ones that don't pay taxes and ship jobs and precious dollars offshore? Suuuuuure.The ones that are best places to "police" themselves?LMAO (LRs tm reg'd).
Now tell me I'm too often on Topix. Oh I checked, counted my posts for that last 24 hours. Added time spent reading others' and writing : About 45 minutes in all of 24 hrs.I don't spend one hr writing a post.
Why do you make excuse after excuse for ObobbleHead? 45 minutes, my azz! LMAO! Good one.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176040 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Cool! The Supreme Court, without Kagan on the bench told birfoons, while stifling laughter, to get lost, and yet Rougie fantasizes that Kagan was nominated because she might influence the court?
Is Rougie on LSD?
And she told the 6 year old to have someone change his diaper.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#176041 Oct 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO! Too bad, kid.
Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?

Yup, too bad, loser.

If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?

Eh, sonny?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's so pathetic. BirfoonBoy thinks a birfoon web site is an authority on US law. Alexander Gofen is a birfoon who spouts Vattel as US law but doesn't even understand Vattel. Does BirfoonBoy believe a birfoon website's declarations constitute binding authority?
Clue: Nowhere does Vattel claim that natural born citizens must have two citizen parents. Indeed, Vattel claims the citizenship of the children follow that of the father, a rule that was never practiced in the United States.
If Vattel's rule had been the law in the US, children of e.g., French or German immigrants would have been ALIENS. Obviously not the rule that was followed in this country. Why cannot the birfoon cite ONE CASE where a person born in the US after ratification of the Constitution was denied intestate inheritance on the basis of alienage per Vattel?
Never happened.
Sorry Mr. Play Justice.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176042 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that birfoon does not understand what he is saying.
If a group children, each with one of their parents parents, were in separate rooms, and then got together for dinner, one may ask, are the children and their parents assembled yet in the dining room? Using birfoons logic, the answer could never be “yes” because "both parentS [hee hee]" of each child were not present. That is simply irrational and illustrates a certain degree of cognitive dysfunction in birfoons.
BirfoonBoy needs psychiatric help.
<quoted text>
Thank you for the honest answer. So, in a normal day you understand nothing anyone says to you. I'm not surprised. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176043 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?
Yup, too bad, loser.
If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?
Eh, sonny?
<quoted text>
A child born of citizen parentS. Thank you. Second generation at least! LMAO! moronic twit
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#176044 Oct 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>A child born of citizen parentS. Thank you. Second generation at least! LMAO! moronic twit
More Romper fableS. Sucks to be Romper

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#176045 Oct 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Dale uses LMAO at the beginning, and LRS at the end. Look at your last posts, slug.
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO! Too bad, kid.
Oops!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176046 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?
Yup, too bad, loser.
If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?
Eh, sonny?
<quoted text>
That's really too bad fer ya, kid. Guess you should carry your commie azz to another country, huh? Or, maybe you could return to your grass hut mansion! Tip: when rebuilding, start with the ground floor! LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176047 Oct 22, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
More Romper fableS. Sucks to be Romper
Spine tingling!

Since: Oct 13

Jeffersonville, IN

#176048 Oct 22, 2013
enough with this birth certificate thing
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176049 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Oops!
LMAO! Oops is right, nitwit! LMAO! Pizz poor job of altering! But then again, you are only 6. LMAO!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#176050 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad BirfoonBoy has no rebuttal?
Yup, too bad, loser.
If Vattel's rules were the law, there would have been MILLIONS of persons ineligible to vote, ineligible for intestate inheritance. Pray tell Vattel's rule was law and nobody ever followed it and NOBODY EVER NOTICED? Is that the ticket?
Eh, sonny?
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
A child born of citizen parentS. Thank you. Second generation at least! LMAO! moronic twit
Huh? "A child born of citizen parents"?

Sorry, loser, no such thing in de Vatell's tome.

De Vattel spoke of children born of citizen parents, NEVER a child born of citizen parents.

In the former case, children are referred to collectively, in the latter, individually. Please, loser, go to college, but learn how to read first.

Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176051 Oct 22, 2013
coreylane wrote:
enough with this birth certificate thing
Corey with 3 posts? Is that you, Corey? LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176052 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Huh? "A child born of citizen parents"?
Sorry, loser, no such thing in de Vatell's tome.
De Vattel spoke of children born of citizen parents, NEVER a child born of citizen parents.
In the former case, children are referred to collectively, in the latter, individually. Please, loser, go to college, but learn how to read first.
LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176053 Oct 22, 2013
TaDa!

Another indication to the meaning of the term may be found in the Supreme Court's definition of "natural born citizen" as "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens" (Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 1875).
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#176054 Oct 22, 2013
The last part is also this nation's biggest problem.

The Constitution clearly and explicitly excludes ordinary citizenship for presidency: ordinary citizenship was reserved only for the presidential candidates - contemporaries of the Framers (referred as the grandfather clause). Definitely the "Natural born citizenship" is not the same as ordinary citizenship, but something stronger. By not explicitly quoting the Vattel's definition, the Constitution therefore leaves some room for confusions.(Many such confusions resulted of deliberate efforts of "progressives" to erode the basic constitutional concepts inconvenient for them).
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#176055 Oct 22, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Justice LRS wrote, "<quoted text>
A child born of citizen parentS. Thank you. Second generation at least! LMAO! moronic twit"

Huh? "A child born of citizen parents"?

Sorry, loser, no such thing in de Vatell's tome.

De Vattel spoke of children born of citizen parents, NEVER a child born of citizen parents.

In the former case, children are referred to collectively, in the latter, individually. Please, loser, go to college, but learn how to read first.

Expecting Romper to know that 5 is greater than 1? You obviously have a much higher opinion of Romper than his mom does
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#176056 Oct 22, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
TaDa!

Another indication to the meaning of the term may be found in the Supreme Court's definition of "natural born citizen" as "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens" (Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 1875).
And Romper clings to the same tired fableS.

Sorry Romper - "you're" misunderstanding of Minor v Happersett is consistent. But wrong

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