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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Another eleoquent reply, this time , to :
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Thanks, and yes I mainly agree with you. Clinton did do that, as he did what Obama resisted , and rightly so, doing, that is to bend to blackmail and terrorism. Clinton did approve right wing legislation, which allowed him to pass some of HIS pro-people legislation? That is why Gingrich's gov't stoppage halted. Did he do right? I don't know.
No, I re-did my first page, as when I clicked "Post comment", the whole thing went to the Topix index , and that's when I knew I was technically screwed. Oh, I did not think, as birthers do that I was censored. Toxpix people have other stuff to do.
As to my re-done first page, I forgot to mention, and it involves the best medical , surgery etc and drug services in the world, well, that's all fine, except that 50 million uninsured Americans, before obamacare plus those followed to their dr's office by insurance company auditors (see LRS), well, let's say, close to half the American population could not avail themselves of the "best medicine and drugs in the world." But rich foreign potentates and dictators and royalty could. No problem, with most of them paying for their medical services with petro dollars.
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Did you not just ask wojar how long it took him to comprehend anything?
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Oh, and this is also for Obskeptic : Speaking of Republicans and Abraham Lincoln, do you really think that the great Lincoln would ever stoop to give the time of day to people like Goldwater, Nixon, GWB, Cheney, Grove, Rumsfeld, Romney, Rush, Gingrich, Pat Robertson, Trump, Taitz, Cruz, et al? Do you really think he would?
No, I don't. I also don't think he would consider any of the modern democrats worth a grain of salt either. Both are selling out the republic, and your list is conspicuously absent of any objectivity.

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No, I don't. I also don't think he would consider any of the modern democrats worth a grain of salt either. Both are selling out the republic, and your list is conspicuously absent of any objectivity.
Objectivity, you say? I suggest you re-read some of your posts, like "the Muslim Obama". Want to take that back? Oh, you have not commented on my stating that the Constitution guarantees religious freedom. Obama is assuredly NOT Muslim. But, for the sake of argument, if he was,(he's not) would that bar him or any other from the presidency?

Your lack of objectivity is coming out your barn door.

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No, I don't. I also don't think he would consider any of the modern democrats worth a grain of salt either. Both are selling out the republic, and your list is conspicuously absent of any objectivity.
Off topic again, irrelevant once more. I was talking about Lincoln and today's Republicans. Not the democrats. Lincoln was Republican, no? Today, for sure, and with the list of Republicans I supplied you with, rest assured he would not belong to that party today.

Do you reflect much before posting? Or do you always let your pre-conceived and heavily-biased opinions carry the day? I've noticed how you get progressively enervated every time you're dumbfounded or flummoxed. That's when little remarks like my posting so much and needing fresh air spurt out, not to mention "ignorant". Too bad. But relax, I don't do that. I don't have to.

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New Report: UK Crime Statistics Fudged to Justify Gun Ban
Posted By Philip Hodges on Oct 22, 2013

How many times have we heard Piers Morgan rant and rave about crime rates in his home country? He claims gun violence is virtually nonexistent thanks to the Brits doing the “responsible” thing and taking everyone’s guns away in 1997. Sure, there was an acknowledged, initial spike in crime shortly thereafter, but then it began to fall and has since plummeted. Or so they say.
It turns out that they have an entire bureaucracy over there devoted not to fighting crime, but fighting crime statistics. Their job is to determine which crimes get recorded as crimes and which get categorized as something else, which ends up not affecting the overall crime rate.
In other words, if there is an attempted burglary, it might get reported initially by a victim or a witness, but it also might end up being categorized as “criminal damage” instead of burglary. Or if there’s an instance of what they call “Grievous Bodily Harm,” it might get categorized as “common assault.” When they downgrade the category, it affects how crime statistics are eventually reported in the media, and those numbers are the ones that find their way to Piers Morgan, who then trumpets them from his TV show so that everyone knows how effective gun control is.

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Off topic again, irrelevant once more. I was talking about Lincoln and today's Republicans. Not the democrats. Lincoln was Republican, no? Today, for sure, and with the list of Republicans I supplied you with, rest assured he would not belong to that party today.
Do you reflect much before posting? Or do you always let your pre-conceived and heavily-biased opinions carry the day? I've noticed how you get progressively enervated every time you're dumbfounded or flummoxed. That's when little remarks like my posting so much and needing fresh air spurt out, not to mention "ignorant". Too bad. But relax, I don't do that. I don't have to.
How do you know what people who lived over a hundred years ago would think or do anything? Did you channel Lincoln?!? You Libtards think you know everything!
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Objectivity, you say? I suggest you re-read some of your posts, like "the Muslim Obama". Want to take that back? Oh, you have not commented on my stating that the Constitution guarantees religious freedom. Obama is assuredly NOT Muslim. But, for the sake of argument, if he was,(he's not) would that bar him or any other from the presidency?
Your lack of objectivity is coming out your barn door.
If you re-read my post, I said that Madonna was the person that says he is a muslim. I simply quoted her, since she is such a highly respected entertainer on the left side of politics. As for religious freedom, the constitution does guarantee that. It also guarantees that enemies of the document have the freedom to destroy the country using its freedoms. As for what I think of muslims? If they were not such a murderous bunch of hypocrites, I wouldn't have any issue with them at all, but the evidence points to them as being violent and intolerant, especially to women and infidels, and that I do have a problem with. Don't you?

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LIFETIME job, eh? You must've been on unemployment if you thought them the save values you espouse here on Topix. Are your kids communist tots?
Hey Jacqueau, you still have not explained what Ted Cruz did to shut down the government. His, so called, filibustered ended almost a week before the shut down and Dirty Hairy Reid would not allow the Senate to vote on the issue.
If it was anyone who shut down the government it was Dirty Hairy?

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See if you can wrap your little 6 year old mind around this. Plain, simple and true! LMAO! Will it ever dawn on the 6 year old that he has soiled himself? How's that grass hut condo doing? Still standing? Got your "seed" money saved up? LMAO!
http://www.resonoelusono.com/NaturalBornCitiz...
That's so pathetic. BirfoonBoy thinks a birfoon web site is an authority on US law. Alexander Gofen is a birfoon who spouts Vattel as US law but doesn't even understand Vattel. Does BirfoonBoy believe a birfoon website's declarations constitute binding authority?

Clue: Nowhere does Vattel claim that natural born citizens must have two citizen parents. Indeed, Vattel claims the citizenship of the children follow that of the father, a rule that was never practiced in the United States.

If Vattel's rule had been the law in the US, children of e.g., French or German immigrants would have been ALIENS. Obviously not the rule that was followed in this country. Why cannot the birfoon cite ONE CASE where a person born in the US after ratification of the Constitution was denied intestate inheritance on the basis of alienage per Vattel?

Never happened.

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Unlike the status of children born in the US who are natural born citizens per binding precedent (even if born of alien parents), there is no binding precedent governing putative natural born citizen status of children born beyond US jurisdiction.

The Play Justice seems to believe that the court by not addressing the status of children of citizens born beyond jurisdiction of the US somehow negated it's clear declaration,“we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are 'natural born Citizens' for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”
Will it ever dawn on the practitioners of Play Law? I doubt it.

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How do you know what people who lived over a hundred years ago would think or do anything? Did you channel Lincoln?!? You Libtards think you know everything!
No, I don't channel, but I do know, we ALL of us know, that Lincoln was smart, wise and compassionate. Is that a Republican quality? I think not. And that list I posted...you really think he'd talk to those people? NOT
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How do you know what people who lived over a hundred years ago would think or do anything? Did you channel Lincoln?!? You Libtards think you know everything!
They do know everything Rogue, just disagree with one of them. We know that Barry is the leading expert in the country on Healthcare. He is also the leading expert on "green energy". He is also the leading expert on immigration. He is also the leading expert on education. He is also the worlds most brilliant economist. He is also the worlds leading expert on foreign policy. He is also the worlds leading expert on human rights. He is also an expert at creating jobs. He is the countries leading expert on arbitrating "fairness". He is also a leading expert on military strategy. He is also a christian, because he tells us he is, although his thin skin demeanor and inability to take responsibility for anything would cause one to question his sincerity. His experience as a community organizer, a TelePrompTer reader, and a constitutional "professor" is how he gained all that experience to make him all these things. If only George W. Bush and those pesky republicans had not made such a complicated mess of things, he would have been able to fix it all. Maybe if he turned to the private sector to help him solve some of these problems, like he has had to do with the healthcare website, rather then take it all on by his lonesome, we would be improving rather then continuing to stagnate. At least he has been able to work on his golf game extensively, since he doesn't have anything more important to do.

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If you re-read my post, I said that Madonna was the person that says he is a muslim. I simply quoted her, since she is such a highly respected entertainer on the left side of politics. As for religious freedom, the constitution does guarantee that. It also guarantees that enemies of the document have the freedom to destroy the country using its freedoms. As for what I think of muslims? If they were not such a murderous bunch of hypocrites, I wouldn't have any issue with them at all, but the evidence points to them as being violent and intolerant, especially to women and infidels, and that I do have a problem with. Don't you?
I don't remember so will take your word for it, as I don't feel like scrolling - you write that this was a Madonna quote. Did you add her name to the Muslim remark? And, what if she is on the left? Does that make her an expert on Obama's religious adherence? Did she say it tongue in cheek? Do you mind if I look it up?

There are apparently 1.5 billion Moslems now on this earth. All a murderous bunch of hypocrites, violent and intolerant to wineb abd infidels, right? All 1.5 billion. Do you remember the word "hyperbolic" and did you reflect on it before making that statement?
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If you re-read my post, I said that Madonna was the person that says he is a muslim. I simply quoted her, since she is such a highly respected entertainer on the left side of politics. As for religious freedom, the constitution does guarantee that. It also guarantees that enemies of the document have the freedom to destroy the country using its freedoms. As for what I think of muslims? If they were not such a murderous bunch of hypocrites, I wouldn't have any issue with them at all, but the evidence points to them as being violent and intolerant, especially to women and infidels, and that I do have a problem with. Don't you?
But, but, but those evil Wepublicans made her say those things.
Madonna calls Obama a Prophet & Black MUSLIM President During....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Off topic again, irrelevant once more. I was talking about Lincoln and today's Republicans. Not the democrats. Lincoln was Republican, no? Today, for sure, and with the list of Republicans I supplied you with, rest assured he would not belong to that party today.
Do you reflect much before posting? Or do you always let your pre-conceived and heavily-biased opinions carry the day? I've noticed how you get progressively enervated every time you're dumbfounded or flummoxed. That's when little remarks like my posting so much and needing fresh air spurt out, not to mention "ignorant". Too bad. But relax, I don't do that. I don't have to.
Thats because you don't seem to think the democrats deserve any criticism. What's your opinion of the Saul Alynsky's book Jacque? Many of the tactics employed by the administration and the main stream media come from that text. By the way, I love that word enervated. Excellent choice.

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Hey Jacqueau, you still have not explained what Ted Cruz did to shut down the government. His, so called, filibustered ended almost a week before the shut down and Dirty Hairy Reid would not allow the Senate to vote on the issue.
If it was anyone who shut down the government it was Dirty Hairy?
I did explain it. Read it for heaven's sake. I've asked you to explain at least 5 things last few days . Still waiting.

Sigh. Cruz is the birfoon buffoon tea party leader. He influenced the congressmen with his rhetoric, his filibuster particularly. He read Dr Seuss, which amazed the tea partyers and birthers as it lulled them to sleep and cost over $24 billion, interruptions in services and ill will both from within and without.
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<quoted text>No, I don't channel, but I do know, we ALL of us know, that Lincoln was smart, wise and compassionate. Is that a Republican quality? I think not. And that list I posted...you really think he'd talk to those people? NOT
Of course he would talk to them. He might not (would not) agree with them on every issue but Lincoln wasn't a closed minded, myopic "us v them" moron
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No, I don't channel, but I do know, we ALL of us know, that Lincoln was smart, wise and compassionate. Is that a Republican quality? I think not. And that list I posted...you really think he'd talk to those people? NOT
And Ronald Reagan was NOT smart, wise nor compassionate? You seem to think giving people Obama phones actually does something to help improve their lives? Oh, now than can order a home delivery pizza?!?

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New Report: UK Crime Statistics Fudged to Justify Gun Ban
Posted By Philip Hodges on Oct 22, 2013
How many times have we heard Piers Morgan rant and rave about crime rates in his home country? He claims gun violence is virtually nonexistent thanks to the Brits doing the “responsible” thing and taking everyone’s guns away in 1997. Sure, there was an acknowledged, initial spike in crime shortly thereafter, but then it began to fall and has since plummeted. Or so they say.
It turns out that they have an entire bureaucracy over there devoted not to fighting crime, but fighting crime statistics. Their job is to determine which crimes get recorded as crimes and which get categorized as something else, which ends up not affecting the overall crime rate.
In other words, if there is an attempted burglary, it might get reported initially by a victim or a witness, but it also might end up being categorized as “criminal damage” instead of burglary. Or if there’s an instance of what they call “Grievous Bodily Harm,” it might get categorized as “common assault.” When they downgrade the category, it affects how crime statistics are eventually reported in the media, and those numbers are the ones that find their way to Piers Morgan, who then trumpets them from his TV show so that everyone knows how effective gun control is.
Read more at http://lastresistance.com/3441/new-report-uk-...
Whether the crime of an assailant who inflicts grievous bodily harm with a baseball bat is classified as "grievous bodily harm" or "common assault" has not a friggin' thing to do with the rate of gun violence. similarly, if the crime of a burglar sans firearm is classified as "criminal damage" it has no effect on the calculated rate of GUN VIOLENCE. Rouge does not seem to understand that his examples are NOT CONNECTED TO MISREPRESENTATION OF INSTANCES OF GUN VIOLENCE.

Rougie needs to take a course in LOGIC.

"He claims gun violence is virtually nonexistent ..."

So Rougie, please explain how classification of a common burglary as criminal damage misrepresents GUN VIOLENCE.

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Jon Stewart rips into Obamacare, Obama’s approval rating continues to slide, and oh yeah, Canada has death panels… but it’s a good thing
Tuesday, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM EDT

In the wake of President Obama’s Obamacare pep rally in the Rose Garden yesterday, it does not appear as though anyone is buying the ‘don’t worry, our product is great’ message the President was trying to sell. Glenn opened the radio program this morning playing the nearly 10 minute scathing Obamacare critique that came courtesy of Jon Stewart last night on The Daily Show.

“You know what feels really good,” Glenn asked.“Just a moment of Jon Stewart seeing sanity. Here he is last night basically saying,‘Really, Obamacare? Bring it on.’”

According to Stewart, after the Republicans disastrous handling of the debt ceiling deal, all Democrats needed to do in order to secure a political advantage was execute the implementation of Obamacare in a “mildly competent” fashion. But, as Stewart openly admits, that certainly did not happen.

Watch Stewart’s Obamacare takedown via Comedy Central (Warning: Some strong language):
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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