You wrote, "Why is it that anyone that disagrees with a liberal is not only an idiot in their eyes, but they declare them to be liars as well?" Excuse me, treating people as idiots and dumb is a republican right wing thing. As an example,[;ease re-read a few posts here from repubs and particularly, birthers. Need I add their offensive language that is not normally used by the so-called socialists, left wings and "libtards" (Rogue tm reg'd) here.<quoted text>
Why is it that anyone that disagrees with a liberal is not only an idiot in their eyes, but they declare them to be liars as well? The democrats took on healthcare reform because they proclaimed that something must be done to cover the 30 million + uninsured in our country. It was also declared as reprehensible that we were the only industrialized nation in the world that does not provide healthcare for its citizens. So the democrats refuse to bring the republicans into the negotiations, and pass this law against the will of the people. They close out the republicans and refuse to incorporate any of their ideas into the law, therefore unable to muster a single republican vote in passing it. They bribe some democrats that were also resisting what they viewed as a socialist takeover of the system to buy their vote, and then pass it at midnight on Christmas eve. They lied in selling the law by using bogus CBO numbers, robbing medicare, claiming if you liked your coverage that you could keep it, and that the cost curve would be bending down. Now that it is law, the president selectively decides on his own who must adhere to it, and who gets special waivers and exemptions and no one on the left seems to care. They told us the interactive web site would cost less then 100 million, yet it has cost over 350 million and counting, and it doesn't work. Now we find out that by the governments own estimates, in 2020 there will be roughly 20 million Americans that will still be uninsured. This is a horror story and yet there are still folks that are confident the government should be controlling our healthcare, and that are still prepared to defend and support democrats. All of this brings a new meaning to the reality of what stuck on stupid means. Pathetic!
Democrats took on health care because 50 million were uninsured, not 30 million. ONE single citizen of a rich country like yours, the richest in the world, no?, without universal health care is one citizen too many. It's medieval. The only one of 34 OECD countries, not to count many non-OECD ones in such a sad situation. 50 million non-insured, and more than 100 million partly or badly-insured. And, for many, premiums in the thousands of dollars per month for a small family, with deductibles aplenty. What is the private insurance industry doing in health care anyway? Yes, the democrats took it on, and not the first time. Good for them. As I've always said, ALL social legislation came from democrats. Zero for republicans in the whole of U.S. history.
Dems refused to take in the Repubs for negotiations? Are you kidding? The Repubs, owned by insurance companies, are not negotiable. They don't want any form of medicare. Any.
The web site is bad news, who would disagree? What's that got to do with the quality or non-quality of Obamacare?
The president does not decide who gets what in Obamacare. You're smart enough to do better. This is a first in the U.S., never been done. Americans are a "know-what-to-do people, they'll sort it out in spite of the Ted Cruzes of our day. With possibly two Dem houses next year, it should be improved some more.
Why does gov't universal health care work everywhere else in the world? Why does no one, right or left politically, want to take down their system, and this, not in ONE single country. Why does the patchwork of U.S. health care, before obamacare, with 50 million uninsured, cost more per capita than any other country on this globe?