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Pdamerica org

Sayville, NY

#174756 Oct 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
The thing about being brilliant is that you don't have to lie.
Here is a publicly issued challenge for you Mr. Justice.
Prove anything I have said is a lie. Show people you don't just open your mouth and allow anything at all to roll out.
In all of my time here, I have yet to see you prove anything at all. So, I will define it for you.
Prove: demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence.
Unverified assertions are the biggest guns you possess. And I am willing to bet you can't up your arsenal for even one measly post.
And you have a clear advantage here, as I have zero clue what you think I am lying about.
So, here is your challenge Justice. If you can manage to PROVE I have lied about anything I will not only apologize... I will bestow my 2016 presidential election ballot to you. You will dictate who I vote for. It is supposedly our most precious freedom and I am willing to part with it... if you can manage to back up your words just once.
Challenge issued, advantage is yours...
OR... you can back down as you do every time you are outsmarted, outclassed and outdone.
You know, pretend it is all a ruse I fell for... another one of your esoteric traps.
So, I am excited to hear from you. I expect a healthy debate with a worthy opponent. Don't disappoint us.
Unless...
You were being dishonest when you accused me of lying...right?
I don't expect you will take my challenge even though you have the advantage, nothing at all to lose and an opportunity to put me in my place.
That is the other thing about being brilliant. You can pretty much see what is coming next.
Good luck.
And remember....EVIDENCE!
It is more than probable and of course possible that he and the other rightwingers truly believe what Drudge, Savage, Coulter, Limbaugh and all the liars on Fox News Propaganda Channel tell them.

I know Limbaugh would fail a polygraph but Justice just might pass!

LOL

ROTFL

Pdamerica org

Sayville, NY

#174757 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
If her "covert" status was so critical, then why did Richard Armitage out her then? If lying is such a punishable offense, then why was Bill Clinton, who lied to a Grand Jury, and our current Liar in Chief excused and defended? Could it be because they are liars for the right people and party?
It is all in the trial transcripts that even the Judge agree Plame was covert.

Plame was undercover overseas trying to stop the proliferation of Nuclear technology.

For this reason alone a multitude of CIA agents came out publicly against the traitors Bush and Cheney.

Plus don't forget all the Generals.

==========

These top military Generals , Admirals, CIA, FBI, NSA, agents are not an insignificant number against all Neo-Con Bush Republicans!

Only Liars Like Fox News, Limbaugh, Bush and Cheney Despise Truth Tellers:

General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.) Admiral Frank “Skip” Bowman, USN (Ret.)

Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.) Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.) General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.) Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)

Admiral Donald L.“Don” Pilling, USN (Ret.) Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)

Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.) General Charles F.“Chuck” Wald, USAF (Ret.) General Anthony C.“Tony” Zinni, USMC

(Ret ) General John Batiste General William E. Odom Lt. General GREGORY NEWBOLD General Eric Shinseki General Paul Eaton GENERAL JOSEPH P. HOAR

Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute General Brent Scowcroft

General Barry McCaffrey Admiral Tommy Fargo General Wesley K. Clark

Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack Maj. Gen. John Riggs Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper

Colonel Sam Gardiner Colonel Ann Wright Colonel David Hackworth

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski Colonel Lawrence B. Wilkerson Marine Major Scott Ritter

Paul R Pillar CIA Larry C. Johnson CIA Tyler Drumheller CIA Michael Scheuer CIA

Ray McGovern CIA Russell Tice NSA, Sibel Edmonds FBI, Valerie Plame CIA.

General Batiste: "Protect America, Not George Bush"


Major General John R.S. Batiste at the DPC Hearing
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

"Real" - VoteVets.org TV Ad Responding to Rush Limbaugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Major General John Batiste (ret) Talks to Keith Olbermann
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Pdamerica org

Sayville, NY

#174758 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
So your saying that this president, who has spent the equivalent of over 6 months worth of 40 hour work weeks on the golf course since being elected, and has added over $7 trillion in debt onto the backs of our children's future and refuses to even sit down and negotiate is demonstrating real leadership? And you defend that? I do hope it wasn't one of your children arriving at Dover AFB that he has denied death benefits. I'm just saying.
Dumbya Bush even out did Reagan taking the most vacations.

LOL

========

Is McCain Another George W. Bush?
19 August 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/4cnyfn by Jack Cafferty
New York - Russia invades Georgia and President Bush goes on vacation. Our president has spent one-third of his entire two terms in office either at Camp David, Maryland, or at Crawford, Texas, on vacation.
His time away from the Oval Office included the month leading up to 9/11, when there were signs Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America, and the time Hurricane Katrina destroyed the city of New Orleans.
Sen. John McCain takes weekends off and limits his campaign events to one a day. He made an exception for the religious forum on Saturday at Saddleback Church in Southern California. http://www.truthout.org/article/is-mccain-ano...

------

The Out-of-Towner
While Bush vacationed, 9/11 warnings went unheard.
April 14, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/jwrvq
In an otherwise dry day of hearings before the 9/11 commission, one brief bit of dialogue set off a sudden flash of clarity on the basic question of how our government let disaster happen.
The revelation came this morning, when CIA Director George Tenet was on the stand. Timothy Roemer, a former Democratic congressman, asked him when he first found out about the report from the FBI's Minnesota field office that Zacarias Moussaoui, an Islamic jihadist, had been taking lessons on how to fly a 747. Tenet replied that he was briefed about the case on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001.
Roemer then asked Tenet if he mentioned Moussaoui to President Bush at one of their frequent morning briefings. Tenet replied, "I was not in briefings at this time." Bush, he noted, "was on vacation." He added that he didn't see the president at all in August 2001. During the entire month, Bush was at his ranch in Texas. "You never talked with him?" Roemer asked. "No," Tenet replied. By the way, for much of August, Tenet too was, as he put it, "on leave." / http://www.slate.com/id/2098861/

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Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record
With Long Sojourn at Ranch, President on His Way to Surpassing Reagan's Total
WACO, Tex., Aug. 2, 2005 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time. http://tinyurl.com/9cjj7
The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening for a stretch of clearing brush, visiting with family and friends, and tending to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.
The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#174759 Oct 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
These fools can't grasp "Born in Hawaii". Asking them to comprehend "yes that WAS the deal but then we decided to take a stand instead" is way beyond their capacity.
And that is the real issue I have with the entire thing.

If you decide to "take a stand" and then publicly announce it is the other parties fault... two things happen.

1. You have to lie to your electorate.

This seriously diminishes your credibility for obvious reasons. In addition, it gives the democrats a huge advantage come campaign time as they have a list of names and video evidence of MANY republicans lying to our faces. As well as all necessary evidence to prove the republicans KNEW they were lying.

2. It completely defeats the purpose of "taking a stand" in the first place.

If you are going to draw a line in the sand, then act as if your opponent is the guy with the stick... It is no longer a bold action taken to fight for what you think is right. It displays cowardice and a lack of control.

They should have just been honest and taken the "bold action for the sake of America's well being." route. At least they could maintain credibility and some form of dignity.

But you may be right. They may be so used to blaming Obama for everything, that it was a knee jerk reaction. One that killed their "stand" before anyone even knew it was taken.

Regardless, it was something that they could have made work for them. Now they just look inept. Mind numbing stupidity.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#174760 Oct 12, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
It is more than probable and of course possible that he and the other rightwingers truly believe what Drudge, Savage, Coulter, Limbaugh and all the liars on Fox News Propaganda Channel tell them.
I know Limbaugh would fail a polygraph but Justice just might pass!
LOL
ROTFL
It is hard to believe, but you may be correct.

That would be a great little experiment. To sit outside of a Sam's Club or something and interview people while hooked up to a polygraph. Asking them questions about obvious political lies to see how many just mouthpiece anything they see on TV, and how many are truly dumb enough to buy it. Mix in a few true ones at the end for controls...

Sounds like fun.

Regardless, Justice getting duped again doesn't make me a liar.
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#174761 Oct 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't remember Obama pledging to furnish anyone who asks with his personal information. Harvard has them. Did you try asking them?
At least you have wrapped your head around the "natural born" thing.
You saying everything would be sunshine and puppies if we only had Mr. Magic Underwear in the White House?
No, I didn't say or even imply that. What I'm saying is that words mean things. So when I person says he is "transparent" and makes certain claims, it is only natural to expect exactly that. Not obfuscation, deflection, and secrecy. You can tell an awful lot about a man's character by listening to what he says, but the real truth is revealed by watching his actions, or lack there of. Barry has not demonstrated that he is worthy of our respect. The rest of the world, including our traditional allies certainly don't respect him. Respect and trust is something that you earn. He has failed to do that.
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#174762 Oct 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
The thing about being brilliant is that you don't have to lie.
Here is a publicly issued challenge for you Mr. Justice.
Prove anything I have said is a lie. Show people you don't just open your mouth and allow anything at all to roll out.
In all of my time here, I have yet to see you prove anything at all. So, I will define it for you.
Prove: demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence.
Unverified assertions are the biggest guns you possess. And I am willing to bet you can't up your arsenal for even one measly post.
And you have a clear advantage here, as I have zero clue what you think I am lying about.
So, here is your challenge Justice. If you can manage to PROVE I have lied about anything I will not only apologize... I will bestow my 2016 presidential election ballot to you. You will dictate who I vote for. It is supposedly our most precious freedom and I am willing to part with it... if you can manage to back up your words just once.
Challenge issued, advantage is yours...
OR... you can back down as you do every time you are outsmarted, outclassed and outdone.
You know, pretend it is all a ruse I fell for... another one of your esoteric traps.
So, I am excited to hear from you. I expect a healthy debate with a worthy opponent. Don't disappoint us.
Unless...
You were being dishonest when you accused me of lying...right?
I don't expect you will take my challenge even though you have the advantage, nothing at all to lose and an opportunity to put me in my place.
That is the other thing about being brilliant. You can pretty much see what is coming next.
Good luck.
And remember....EVIDENCE!
Your a liar "scrutiny"
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/leak.a...
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/08/leak.a...
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#174763 Oct 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
The thing about being brilliant is that you don't have to lie.
Here is a publicly issued challenge for you Mr. Justice.
Prove anything I have said is a lie. Show people you don't just open your mouth and allow anything at all to roll out.
In all of my time here, I have yet to see you prove anything at all. So, I will define it for you.
Prove: demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence.
Unverified assertions are the biggest guns you possess. And I am willing to bet you can't up your arsenal for even one measly post.
And you have a clear advantage here, as I have zero clue what you think I am lying about.
So, here is your challenge Justice. If you can manage to PROVE I have lied about anything I will not only apologize... I will bestow my 2016 presidential election ballot to you. You will dictate who I vote for. It is supposedly our most precious freedom and I am willing to part with it... if you can manage to back up your words just once.
Challenge issued, advantage is yours...
OR... you can back down as you do every time you are outsmarted, outclassed and outdone.
You know, pretend it is all a ruse I fell for... another one of your esoteric traps.
So, I am excited to hear from you. I expect a healthy debate with a worthy opponent. Don't disappoint us.
Unless...
You were being dishonest when you accused me of lying...right?
I don't expect you will take my challenge even though you have the advantage, nothing at all to lose and an opportunity to put me in my place.
That is the other thing about being brilliant. You can pretty much see what is coming next.
Good luck.
And remember....EVIDENCE!
You are Atticus, are you not?
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#174764 Oct 12, 2013
Let me know if you need any more sources of evidence because there is plenty.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#174765 Oct 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You are Atticus, are you not?
Challenge over. I win!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#174766 Oct 12, 2013
Aww scruff, are you tossing peanuts? LMAO!
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174767 Oct 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
100% of the blame goes on the loser 'Obobblehead". He is incompetent, plain and simple. Great role model you've chosen, moron! A liar and a fraud. Brilliant! Roberts was bought, moron. I suspect it was Obobblehead himself that said, "do not pay the death benefits". You know, it's part of his "make it hurt" plan? Regardless, the bill is junk and will kill itself. That will be his legacy, his great piece of work! LMAO! Written by DIMs in the middle of the night and loaded with hidden taxes, oComaCare was shoved down the people's throats. That's not how things are done here but how could the Kenyan have known that? Even people as stupid as you are catching on to Obobblehead's little BS games. BTW shytforbrains, you're not qualified to call anyone Un-American. You are and always will be a "wannabe". You're a short, fat, gray-haired, lying queer who likes lap dogs and for some unknown reason, you think you are something special! LMAO! scum of the earth Cya later pathological liar.
Obama couldn't get away with it with out the help of Harry Reid.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174768 Oct 12, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. You don't smoke, you don't drink, you don't fornicate, you won't live any longer, it'll just seem longer.
Just the opposite, you won't hack up smoke,feel the pain of a tracheotomy,destroyed lungs or destroyed liver,you won't wake up with a hangover, or puke up sour liquid, you won't risk getting sexually transmitted disease and even if you don't live longer you will be healthier during you advanced years. Most people would rather be healthy in their later years than to be hooked to an oxygen bottle,confined to a wheelchair or a bed for many years. ObamaKare is going to make a lot of people wish they were dead,since the government will not let them get the proper medical care.
tm clmns

Victoria, Canada

#174769 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, if "Corporatists" destroy America, how would they earn money? This I gotta hear!!! I want everyone to be able to make as much money as they can. A rising tide, lifts all boats!
Stop repeating Republican propaganda. "Rising Tide" my ass.. They drain the lake.. and leave you high and dry...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#174770 Oct 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
LMAO! The wannabe calling someone else a wannabe! Instant classic! LMAO! Your comment is almost as funny as the above. Someone had to say, "no", do not pay those death benefits. Who was it? It most certainly wasn't the Tea Party! LMAO! I bet the order came from Obobblehead himself! Who has been held accountable for ANY of the scandals? No one. Admit it already, Obobblehead is a liar.
1. Crus IS the wannabe, not me. He claims he's American. I make no such claim. English hard to comprehend?;

2. The tea party member, with the Speaker afraid to stop them, shut down the gov't, not Obama. Now that they've seen how they are hurting the nation, and how the Vets not getting benefits is hurting their image, they want to piece-meal budget outlays. No deal, says Obama, you brought this on, now stop stonewalling;

3. What scandals? And what lies?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#174771 Oct 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
The thing about being brilliant is that you don't have to lie.
Here is a publicly issued challenge for you Mr. Justice.
Prove anything I have said is a lie. Show people you don't just open your mouth and allow anything at all to roll out.
In all of my time here, I have yet to see you prove anything at all. So, I will define it for you.
Prove: demonstrate the truth or existence of (something) by evidence.
Unverified assertions are the biggest guns you possess. And I am willing to bet you can't up your arsenal for even one measly post.
And you have a clear advantage here, as I have zero clue what you think I am lying about.
So, here is your challenge Justice. If you can manage to PROVE I have lied about anything I will not only apologize... I will bestow my 2016 presidential election ballot to you. You will dictate who I vote for. It is supposedly our most precious freedom and I am willing to part with it... if you can manage to back up your words just once.
Challenge issued, advantage is yours...
OR... you can back down as you do every time you are outsmarted, outclassed and outdone.
You know, pretend it is all a ruse I fell for... another one of your esoteric traps.
So, I am excited to hear from you. I expect a healthy debate with a worthy opponent. Don't disappoint us.
Unless...
You were being dishonest when you accused me of lying...right?
I don't expect you will take my challenge even though you have the advantage, nothing at all to lose and an opportunity to put me in my place.
That is the other thing about being brilliant. You can pretty much see what is coming next.
Good luck.
And remember....EVIDENCE!
I second you totally and will also challenge Justice ha ha LMAO LRs to prove anything I'VE ever written here to be a lie.

Lies told by LRS, some od them in the last 48 hours :

1. That Obama is not a true American;
2. That Obama stole the election;
3. That Obama is a liar;
4. That Obama is dishonest;
5. That Obama & Obama only is responsible for the shutdown;
6. That Supreme Court Justice Roberts was bought off by Obamač
7. That Obama is responsible for Benghazi

Yup, 5 of 7 of the above the last 48 hours. Imagine if one tallies his lies for 6 months, a year. Get out the abacus.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#174772 Oct 12, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Dumbya Bush even out did Reagan taking the most vacations.
LOL
========
Is McCain Another George W. Bush?
19 August 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/4cnyfn by Jack Cafferty
New York - Russia invades Georgia and President Bush goes on vacation. Our president has spent one-third of his entire two terms in office either at Camp David, Maryland, or at Crawford, Texas, on vacation.
His time away from the Oval Office included the month leading up to 9/11, when there were signs Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America, and the time Hurricane Katrina destroyed the city of New Orleans.
Sen. John McCain takes weekends off and limits his campaign events to one a day. He made an exception for the religious forum on Saturday at Saddleback Church in Southern California. http://www.truthout.org/article/is-mccain-ano...
------
The Out-of-Towner
While Bush vacationed, 9/11 warnings went unheard.
April 14, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/jwrvq
In an otherwise dry day of hearings before the 9/11 commission, one brief bit of dialogue set off a sudden flash of clarity on the basic question of how our government let disaster happen.
The revelation came this morning, when CIA Director George Tenet was on the stand. Timothy Roemer, a former Democratic congressman, asked him when he first found out about the report from the FBI's Minnesota field office that Zacarias Moussaoui, an Islamic jihadist, had been taking lessons on how to fly a 747. Tenet replied that he was briefed about the case on Aug. 23 or 24, 2001.
Roemer then asked Tenet if he mentioned Moussaoui to President Bush at one of their frequent morning briefings. Tenet replied, "I was not in briefings at this time." Bush, he noted, "was on vacation." He added that he didn't see the president at all in August 2001. During the entire month, Bush was at his ranch in Texas. "You never talked with him?" Roemer asked. "No," Tenet replied. By the way, for much of August, Tenet too was, as he put it, "on leave." / http://www.slate.com/id/2098861/
------
Vacationing Bush Poised to Set a Record
With Long Sojourn at Ranch, President on His Way to Surpassing Reagan's Total
WACO, Tex., Aug. 2, 2005 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time. http://tinyurl.com/9cjj7
The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening for a stretch of clearing brush, visiting with family and friends, and tending to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.
The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- nearly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Er, Pd, hmm, Obskeptic hates Obama. It is therefore evident and proven that Obama has gone on vacation more often than all preceding 43 presidents. Accept it.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#174773 Oct 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You are Atticus, are you not?
God you're clueless. They are both excellent writers, but damn it, you ARE clueless, I just had to repeat it. They don't have the same pen, the same style. They compose differently. I think, and, no offense, Scrutiny, that Atticus is more professorial-like and I would not be surprised if he was just that, a professor.

YOU, on the other hand, sound like the late Rush of Arizona. Same boorish, profanity-laden, dirty, anal, homophobe and ignorant prose. Now, THAT was easy.(Wendy, tm reg'd).

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#174774 Oct 12, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Just the opposite, you won't hack up smoke,feel the pain of a tracheotomy,destroyed lungs or destroyed liver,you won't wake up with a hangover, or puke up sour liquid, you won't risk getting sexually transmitted disease and even if you don't live longer you will be healthier during you advanced years. Most people would rather be healthy in their later years than to be hooked to an oxygen bottle,confined to a wheelchair or a bed for many years. ObamaKare is going to make a lot of people wish they were dead,since the government will not let them get the proper medical care.
I thought LRS was the stupidest birther, with no wit or sense of humour. Well, you just tied him. Congrats.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#174775 Oct 12, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Crus IS the wannabe, not me. He claims he's American. I make no such claim. English hard to comprehend?;
2. The tea party member, with the Speaker afraid to stop them, shut down the gov't, not Obama. Now that they've seen how they are hurting the nation, and how the Vets not getting benefits is hurting their image, they want to piece-meal budget outlays. No deal, says Obama, you brought this on, now stop stonewalling;
3. What scandals? And what lies?
Oh, you're a wannabe alright. Obobblehead is the one who said, "I will not negotiate with "Republicans"! That is an impasse. BTW, how many campaign promises has Obobblehead broken? I lost track! You're not aware of the scandals that have occurred under this president's watch? I'll answer it for you....no one has been held accountable. And you think this is a good thing. Doofus.

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