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#174702 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You do know that Speaker Tip O"Neil shut down the government a DOZEN time while Reagan was president over such things as funding for abortions. Did that bother you then or is it only when Republicans do it?
By the way, it takes two sides to shut down the government.
No, I am saying if you are going to "Take a stand"...

You should have the balls to look into those cameras and tell the people why without passing the buck or lying.

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#174703 Oct 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Scruffy, you're full of shyt.
Well argued....

next.

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#174704 Oct 12, 2013
Ya know, if this had happened in a loony-lefty state, she would have been arrested!

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#174705 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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If this president is so transparent, why the secrecy surrounding all his school records? None of you seem to care or be able to answer that. One that that can't be disputed, Barack is a natural born follower. His "lead from behind" strategy has not served the country well at all.
Don't remember Obama pledging to furnish anyone who asks with his personal information. Harvard has them. Did you try asking them?

At least you have wrapped your head around the "natural born" thing.

You saying everything would be sunshine and puppies if we only had Mr. Magic Underwear in the White House?

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#174706 Oct 12, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So, Cheney, who would send thousands of Americans to their death as Sec of Defence and later VP, who never served a day, was okay with his education deferment, but not Clinton. Please explain;
Have you ever explained Romney's two non-military careers? They sure looked healthy on TV. Biden's son served, didn't he? Waiting. As usual, in your very words, I do not expect a reply from you, but rather the same distortions in a week or two.
Powell resigned, totally disgusted at the Iraq WMD sham. Period.
You do know that Dick Cheney was just the VICE president, don't you? What authority did he have to do what you said he did? The PRESIDENT makes those decisions, not the Veep, not the SecDef, the PRESIDENT!!!
You are so blinded by your bigotry it is beyond me.

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#174707 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You do know that Speaker Tip O"Neil shut down the government a DOZEN time while Reagan was president over such things as funding for abortions. Did that bother you then or is it only when Republicans do it?
By the way, it takes two sides to shut down the government.
Scrutiny wrote:
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No, I am saying if you are going to "Take a stand"...
You should have the balls to look into those cameras and tell the people why without passing the buck or lying.
Well,,,,,, Speaker Bonehead has been doing that. He has been willing to negotiate but Obama refuses to. Reagan negotiated with Tip O'Neil but Obummer Boy seems to be above negotiating.

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#174708 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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So what your saying is that while this president has spent the equivalent of over 6 months of 40 hour work weeks on the golf course since being elected, not counting vacation time, that adding over $7 trillion in debt onto the backs of our children's future is a sign of real leadership and responsibility?
You obviously have a problem with reading comprehension.

The shutdown isn't about golf.

If the GOP wants "leadership and responsibility" they can field a candidate that will provide it.

Not that it matters. They have taken out their political frustrations on vets, women and children now. Those vets aren't going to just forget about this.

Prepare for Queen Clinton.

We deserve it.
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#174709 Oct 12, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>No, I am saying if you are going to "Take a stand"...

You should have the balls to look into those cameras and tell the people why without passing the buck or lying.
Shutting down the Government is the first campaign promise the TeaBaggers have kept. They're so used to blaming Obama, they don't know how to take credit for anything

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#174710 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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If this president is so transparent, why the secrecy surrounding all his school records? None of you seem to care or be able to answer that. One that that can't be disputed, Barack is a natural born follower. His "lead from behind" strategy has not served the country well at all.
Why should he show his school records? How about Mitt Romney's tax filings? Why 6 months late filing his 2011 tax report? How about records as to why his two very-healthy sons never served in the military? Did Mitt serve at all? Why all the secrecy?

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#174711 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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So what your saying is that while this president has spent the equivalent of over 6 months of 40 hour work weeks on the golf course since being elected, not counting vacation time, that adding over $7 trillion in debt onto the backs of our children's future is a sign of real leadership and responsibility?
It's on record. Obama has spent less time vacationing than almost all other presidents. He doesn't even own a "2nd White House", like most other presidents did. You rant about the debt rising (while the deficit keeps falling, you forget that) while Obama's on vacation, yet nothing about GWB spending so much time at his Texas "White House" while thousands of Americans were dying in made-up wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

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#174712 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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So your saying that this president, who has spent the equivalent of over 6 months worth of 40 hour work weeks on the golf course since being elected, and has added over $7 trillion in debt onto the backs of our children's future and refuses to even sit down and negotiate is demonstrating real leadership? And you defend that? I do hope it wasn't one of your children arriving at Dover AFB that he has denied death benefits. I'm just saying.
The Canadian/Cuban and wannabe American Cruz and his ridiculous and treacherous Tea Party vagabonds have denied death benefits to deceased military next-of-kin, with assistance from their speaker. Not Obama.

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#174713 Oct 12, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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So your saying that this president, who has spent the equivalent of over 6 months worth of 40 hour work weeks on the golf course since being elected, and has added over $7 trillion in debt onto the backs of our children's future and refuses to even sit down and negotiate is demonstrating real leadership? And you defend that? I do hope it wasn't one of your children arriving at Dover AFB that he has denied death benefits. I'm just saying.
Again... reading comprehension.

None of my post had anything at all to do with golf or how many hours the president is required to work in a week or a month.

I absolutely defend him not sitting down with people who he already had an agreement with. This was a done deal as far as he was concerned. The GOP decided to renege. Not Obama.

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We strike a deal and I agree to sell my house to you for 300K. We shake on it, smile and agree to meet in 60 days to sign paperwork and close the deal.

56 days later....I decide that I want 360K and you find out I filled in my pool with cement and there was a moderate fire in my garage two weeks ago... are you going to show up at closing?

No?

Really, why aren't you returning my calls?

Now... how does any of this become YOUR FAULT?
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You aren't returning my calls for the very same reason Obama is done negotiating. Obama is as much at fault for those death benefits as you are for not buying my house.

I know the debt ceiling is not a house. The principal is the same. Two sides had negotiated a deal, one side wants to change the deal at the last minute and the other side isn't going to play along.

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#174714 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You do know that Speaker Tip O"Neil shut down the government a DOZEN time while Reagan was president over such things as funding for abortions. Did that bother you then or is it only when Republicans do it?
By the way, it takes two sides to shut down the government.
<quoted text>
Well,,,,,, Speaker Bonehead has been doing that. He has been willing to negotiate but Obama refuses to. Reagan negotiated with Tip O'Neil but Obummer Boy seems to be above negotiating.
Why would you negotiate with people who have already reneged on your original deal?

What is the point?

Even after you come to terms there is no guarantee they will honor their agreement.

This was done in July Rouge. Negotiations were over months ago. We had two happy parties leave the table and a situation that hasn't changed at all since.

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#174715 Oct 12, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
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I know rightwingers do not believe in court testimony or hearings in Congress but the CEOs of Tobacco companies all lied under oath.
Typical that Rogue would rush to the defence of Tobacco barons, they who KNEW that nicotine, tar, and other cancerous junk in their product were lethal, yet they even had phoney doctors advertise the goodness and purity of smoking their "coffin nails". So much of their own evidence destroyed, it's on record, how they misled the public, specially our youth. They have now developed the "smokeless" cigarette, death to all still, smokers and contact smokers alike, no change, but they are stealthy, like Rogue's favourite and unseen airplane killers. Two provinces are suing the tobacco killers here now, billions of $. Hope they win. Rogue is a serf, he serves his palatial masters, lives under their walls, gives them ransom crops and defends them against all "enemies".

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#174716 Oct 12, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Why should he show his school records? How about Mitt Romney's tax filings? Why 6 months late filing his 2011 tax report? How about records as to why his two very-healthy sons never served in the military? Did Mitt serve at all? Why all the secrecy?
Mitt got a religious deferment. Maybe he was waiting for the planet Kolob to return with alien Jesus.

No, he did not serve.

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#174717 Oct 12, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Pure BS.
Really? Did Cheney not get an education deferment? All fair and square. Tell us why Clinton's deferment was not okay. And, you deny that Mitt Romney never served? While he should have, did he not have a religious deferment so he could knock on Parisians' doors to sell the Joe Smith/Brigham Young faith? You deny his two healthy sons never served in the military? Do you or is all of the aforementioned TRUTH not true because it comes from across the border? You deny that Powell was so disgusted with the White Houae gang of 5 that he resigned and more or less abandoned the Republican party? Any more bright intellectual responses like "Pure BS"? "Can you hear us coming?" You still haven't explained why you used that song every day during the 2012 campaign and stopped after November 6. Nothing to do with Romney's sure-thing election, by any chance? Pure BS? Yes. Yours.

Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

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So, Cheney, who would send thousands of Americans to their death as Sec of Defence and later VP, who never served a day, was okay with his education deferment, but not Clinton. Please explain;
Have you ever explained Romney's two non-military careers? They sure looked healthy on TV. Biden's son served, didn't he? Waiting. As usual, in your very words, I do not expect a reply from you, but rather the same distortions in a week or two.
Powell resigned, totally disgusted at the Iraq WMD sham. Period.

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#174718 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well, maybe not that long as Reagan was willing to NEGOTIATE. Something that is not in Obama's vocabulary.
You, as usual, miss the point. Negotiate what? Obamacare was voted into law by both houses of the legislature, signed by the president, challenged in Supreme court where it prevailed. That is called the will of the people as exercised by the very same people who voted for them. I repeat, negotiate what?

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#174719 Oct 12, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Shutting down the Government is the first campaign promise the TeaBaggers have kept. They're so used to blaming Obama, they don't know how to take credit for anything
I don't get what they don't comprehend about this.

Why in the hell would you look to entertain negotiations with people who broke their word with you over the same subject?

"Why won't he compromise?"

He did. In July.

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#174720 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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The Romney issue, just like Dick Cheney's, have been answered a dozen times already. As far as Powell's resignation, it happened in November 16, 2004 after the general election well after MAJOR COMBAT in Iraq was over but during the time the Amb. Wilson/Valerie Plame scandal broke. If it was because of the Iraq thing, why did he wait 2-3 years to do so?!?
You wrote : "The Romney issue, just like Dick Cheney's, have been answered a dozen times already. " Have they? Please remind me of Mitt Romney's and his two sons' reasons for not serving and why they are okay. Romney sr had a religious deferment, right?, as he knocked on Parisian doors to tell the French how Jesus came to the United States and how blacks and non-Mormons were abominations, LRS (tme reg'd). Remind me why it was okay for Cheney to get an education deferment but , according to you, not okay for Clinton to get one. I'll wait. Hmmm, how long?

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#174721 Oct 12, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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You do know that Dick Cheney was just the VICE president, don't you? What authority did he have to do what you said he did? The PRESIDENT makes those decisions, not the Veep, not the SecDef, the PRESIDENT!!!
You are so blinded by your bigotry it is beyond me.
Bigotry? Do you even know what the word signifies? I don't think so. I don't agree with your fantasies, that makes me a bigot?

You know very well why Cheney has so often been called President Cheney. I can't prove it, as it is unwritten, but it's believed in many circles that Cheney, Rumsfeld and Grove held the reins of gov't. Not unlike Reagan, GWB's underlings would avoid as much as possible any one-on-one GWB-head of other state meeting. No telling what Reagan or GWB could have uttered.

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