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Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#174086 Oct 6, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Warning: Hating Monsanto Impedes Global Economic Growth
Monsanto (NYSE: MON ) attracts quite a bit of criticism for its transgenic crops and seeds, more commonly referred to as Genetically Modified Organisms, or GMOs. The agricultural pioneer has introduced several engineered products aimed at reducing the amount of pesticides, herbicides, and time required during the planting season. In fact, corn and cotton crops that contain genes to produce toxins created from a naturally occurring soil bacterium, Bacillus thuringiensis, have saved farmers $57 billion in pesticide costs from 1996 to 2011.
Yet despite mountains of scientific and economic evidence pointing to the benefits of transgenic crops, many people in the United States and Europe are vehemently opposed to their use and consumption. Public pressure has even led to the creation of state and national mandates, whether they are pending or already passed as law. That is a luxury when you're surrounded by food 24/7. Sadly, this popular and misguided view of agricultural biotechnology compromises the assimilation of genetically modified foods in African countries. It influences international trade and humanitarian aid, thereby stunting economic growth for the world's poorest people. More worrisome: it costs lives.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10...
The main problem with GMOs at this time is that their use are uncontrolled experiments and the genie might not be able to be put back into the bottle in the event of extremely adverse sequelae.

One GMO veggie produced cyanide, poisoning those who ate it.

Another problem specific to bt toxin-producing GMOs is that pests will simply become resistant to bt toxin and then we will be worse off. However, by that time Monsanto execs in power today will be retired and very wealty and will be throwing the finger at the ignorant fools who fell for their bs.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174087 Oct 6, 2013
On the other hand some stories are written by people who clearly don't understand the science, such as this nonsense.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/ar...
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#174088 Oct 6, 2013
SGT Rock101 wrote:
I'm sure Thomas Jefferson had a semi-automatic rifle. The right to commit mass murder shall not be abridged.<quoted text>
Mass murder in America is being committed by people with mental illness. So why is your response to that to leave the mentally ill untreated, but you insist the law abiding citizen should have his second amendment rights and the right to defend his/her life taken away? That is simply crazy.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174089 Oct 6, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
The only reason the Republicans hate Obamacare is because he stole the Republican healthcare supported by the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.
ROTFL
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Reasons to Lose Sleep over the Shutdown and Obamacare
October 6, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/kpynj4s
Sure, the government shutdown and Republican demands regarding the Affordable Care Act (ACA) are reprehensible, but let's not delude ourselves about the ACA itself.
It's needlessly complex. It preserves medical treatment as a commodity rather than a right: low-cost policies will provide low-quality insurance. It imposes a direct public subsidy to feed the insurance industry, which helped write the legislation. It isn't universal.
Millions of people who lacked it will now have health insurance, but the coverage they get won't approach the level of health-care access guaranteed to every citizen in every other democratic nation.
Obamacare is a Republican idea. It's based on the individual mandate, an idea introduced by the conservative pro-business Heritage Foundation, promoted by Republican leaders, and enacted in Massachusetts by Gov. Romney. Republicans only began to detest it circa 2009 when President Obama and Democrats made it part of Obamacare.
Conversely, progressives only began to support it when the ACA was introduced. Barack Obama opposed it during his presidential campaign but changed his mind in 2009.
Is it obnoxious to suggest that the dispute over Obamacare was always more about partisan loyalties than substance?
The shutdown will probably end when establishment Republicans convince Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and his fellow Tea Partiers that they've had their fun and now it's time to let adults run the show again. The main GOP objection to Obamacare is the "Obama" part. The legislation's real defects aren't important to the GOP.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/10/06
Republicans have always supported various plans to reform the health care system. No Republicans have ever supported fifty new taxes tied to health care or 2700 pages of government requirements that have nothing at all to do with health care. ObamaKare was nothing more than a plan to allow government to control the lives of United States citizens and to perpetuate the Obama ideals of taking dollars out of the pockets of hard working individual to allow him to waste it as he sees fit.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#174090 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Grow up Frank. Mental illness has plagued mankind since the beginning.
We see that! LMAO!
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174091 Oct 6, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
The only reason the Republicans hate Obamacare is because he stole the Republican healthcare supported by the Heritage Foundation back in the 1990s.
ROTFL
----------
Reasons to Lose Sleep over the Shutdown and Obamacare
October 6, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/kpynj4s
Sure, the government shutdown and Republican demands regarding the Affordable Care Act (ACA) are reprehensible, but let's not delude ourselves about the ACA itself.
It's needlessly complex. It preserves medical treatment as a commodity rather than a right: low-cost policies will provide low-quality insurance. It imposes a direct public subsidy to feed the insurance industry, which helped write the legislation. It isn't universal.
Millions of people who lacked it will now have health insurance, but the coverage they get won't approach the level of health-care access guaranteed to every citizen in every other democratic nation.
Obamacare is a Republican idea. It's based on the individual mandate, an idea introduced by the conservative pro-business Heritage Foundation, promoted by Republican leaders, and enacted in Massachusetts by Gov. Romney. Republicans only began to detest it circa 2009 when President Obama and Democrats made it part of Obamacare.
Conversely, progressives only began to support it when the ACA was introduced. Barack Obama opposed it during his presidential campaign but changed his mind in 2009.
Is it obnoxious to suggest that the dispute over Obamacare was always more about partisan loyalties than substance?
The shutdown will probably end when establishment Republicans convince Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and his fellow Tea Partiers that they've had their fun and now it's time to let adults run the show again. The main GOP objection to Obamacare is the "Obama" part. The legislation's real defects aren't important to the GOP.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/10/06
You have that backward. Nearly ninety percent of the country wanted health care reform. Polls show that nearly eighty percent of the the country oppose ObamaKare. Most of the people that support ObamaKare only support it because they don't want to discredit Obama. If Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008 and this was HillaryKare,the same people would still oppose it if it adversely effected the lives of nearly 300 million United States citizens.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174092 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The Department of Education doesn't employ any teachers, we employ and pay the teachers locally.
Who claimed DoEs employed teachers? RU on drugs?
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174093 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Grow up Frank. Mental illness has plagued mankind since the beginning.
Society has been divided by good and evil / conservative and liberal since Kane and Able.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174094 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Who claimed DoEs employed teachers? RU on drugs?
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.

wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
The primary recipient of all the tax dollars we are pouring into education is not the children. We are wasting billions of tax dollars that go to a variety of waste baskets like the National Education Association and the Department of Education. The Department of Education doesn't do one thing to help a child in Boise Idaho learn math. Over fifty percent of the tax dollars that are intended to teach children go to administration and bureaucracies. Every dollar 'NEA' gets is from our tax dollars because the teachers are paid with tax dollars,as a matter of fact union dues are paid out of the teachers salary as a condition of employment and as a negotiated portion of their salary.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#174095 Oct 6, 2013
Yep. 30% of America's general aviation fleet cannot safely fly without leaded fuel.
Nothing makes a pilot happier than a $200 dollar hamburger and a tankful of leaded gas.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174096 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
The primary recipient of all the tax dollars we are pouring into education is not the children. We are wasting billions of tax dollars that go to a variety of waste baskets like the National Education Association and the Department of Education. The Department of Education doesn't do one thing to help a child in Boise Idaho learn math. Over fifty percent of the tax dollars that are intended to teach children go to administration and bureaucracies. Every dollar 'NEA' gets is from our tax dollars because the teachers are paid with tax dollars,as a matter of fact union dues are paid out of the teachers salary as a condition of employment and as a negotiated portion of their salary.
Money is tangible Frank; and 5000 people in comparison to the number of teachers in the US is minuscule.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174097 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
The primary recipient of all the tax dollars we are pouring into education is not the children. We are wasting billions of tax dollars that go to a variety of waste baskets like the National Education Association and the Department of Education. The Department of Education doesn't do one thing to help a child in Boise Idaho learn math. Over fifty percent of the tax dollars that are intended to teach children go to administration and bureaucracies. Every dollar 'NEA' gets is from our tax dollars because the teachers are paid with tax dollars,as a matter of fact union dues are paid out of the teachers salary as a condition of employment and as a negotiated portion of their salary.
Sorry Frank, NEA is not funded by tax dollars. It is funded by teachers who are private individuals.

Schools rely on DoE money. It's just plain stupid to say that doesn't help students when schools can hire more teachers when their overhead is subsidized.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174098 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Money is tangible Frank; and 5000 people in comparison to the number of teachers in the US is minuscule.
The budget for The Department of Education last year was over 100 billion dollars when you count the Obama stimulus dollars and more nearly 10 times the budget before Obama was elected. Can any one account for even one dollar of that money? Is our school system nearly ten times as good now as it was prior to Obama occupying the White House? Is our school system better than it was in the seventies before Carter and the new Cabinet?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174099 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The budget for The Department of Education last year was over 100 billion dollars when you count the Obama stimulus dollars and more nearly 10 times the budget before Obama was elected. Can any one account for even one dollar of that money? Is our school system nearly ten times as good now as it was prior to Obama occupying the White House? Is our school system better than it was in the seventies before Carter and the new Cabinet?
Ten times? You're making up tall tales Frank.$73 Billion in 2006.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#174100 Oct 6, 2013
Close Lincoln Park in Washington DC.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174101 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Ten times? You're making up tall tales Frank.$73 Billion in 2006.
The Department of Education budget was $32 billion in 2009,before Obama added an addition $100 billion from stimulus.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174103 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Frank, NEA is not funded by tax dollars. It is funded by teachers who are private individuals.
Schools rely on DoE money. It's just plain stupid to say that doesn't help students when schools can hire more teachers when their overhead is subsidized.
About 90% of tax dollars used to pay elementary and secondary teachers come from state and local taxes.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174104 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>About 90% of tax dollars used to pay elementary and secondary teachers come from state and local taxes.
That's news?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174105 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The Department of Education budget was $32 billion in 2009,before Obama added an addition $100 billion from stimulus.
$73 Bn in 2006. UR cherry picking. And a school lunches don't help students? Since you have admitted you don't know how the money is spent you cannot say it doesn't help students.
Grow up.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174106 Oct 6, 2013
Hey Frank, ten times $32 Bn would be $320 Bn. Looks like the school system failed with you.

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