BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Frank

Spokane, WA

#174093 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Grow up Frank. Mental illness has plagued mankind since the beginning.
Society has been divided by good and evil / conservative and liberal since Kane and Able.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174094 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Who claimed DoEs employed teachers? RU on drugs?
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.

wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
The primary recipient of all the tax dollars we are pouring into education is not the children. We are wasting billions of tax dollars that go to a variety of waste baskets like the National Education Association and the Department of Education. The Department of Education doesn't do one thing to help a child in Boise Idaho learn math. Over fifty percent of the tax dollars that are intended to teach children go to administration and bureaucracies. Every dollar 'NEA' gets is from our tax dollars because the teachers are paid with tax dollars,as a matter of fact union dues are paid out of the teachers salary as a condition of employment and as a negotiated portion of their salary.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#174095 Oct 6, 2013
Yep. 30% of America's general aviation fleet cannot safely fly without leaded fuel.
Nothing makes a pilot happier than a $200 dollar hamburger and a tankful of leaded gas.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174096 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
The primary recipient of all the tax dollars we are pouring into education is not the children. We are wasting billions of tax dollars that go to a variety of waste baskets like the National Education Association and the Department of Education. The Department of Education doesn't do one thing to help a child in Boise Idaho learn math. Over fifty percent of the tax dollars that are intended to teach children go to administration and bureaucracies. Every dollar 'NEA' gets is from our tax dollars because the teachers are paid with tax dollars,as a matter of fact union dues are paid out of the teachers salary as a condition of employment and as a negotiated portion of their salary.
Money is tangible Frank; and 5000 people in comparison to the number of teachers in the US is minuscule.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174097 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
The primary recipient of all the tax dollars we are pouring into education is not the children. We are wasting billions of tax dollars that go to a variety of waste baskets like the National Education Association and the Department of Education. The Department of Education doesn't do one thing to help a child in Boise Idaho learn math. Over fifty percent of the tax dollars that are intended to teach children go to administration and bureaucracies. Every dollar 'NEA' gets is from our tax dollars because the teachers are paid with tax dollars,as a matter of fact union dues are paid out of the teachers salary as a condition of employment and as a negotiated portion of their salary.
Sorry Frank, NEA is not funded by tax dollars. It is funded by teachers who are private individuals.

Schools rely on DoE money. It's just plain stupid to say that doesn't help students when schools can hire more teachers when their overhead is subsidized.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174098 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Money is tangible Frank; and 5000 people in comparison to the number of teachers in the US is minuscule.
The budget for The Department of Education last year was over 100 billion dollars when you count the Obama stimulus dollars and more nearly 10 times the budget before Obama was elected. Can any one account for even one dollar of that money? Is our school system nearly ten times as good now as it was prior to Obama occupying the White House? Is our school system better than it was in the seventies before Carter and the new Cabinet?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174099 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The budget for The Department of Education last year was over 100 billion dollars when you count the Obama stimulus dollars and more nearly 10 times the budget before Obama was elected. Can any one account for even one dollar of that money? Is our school system nearly ten times as good now as it was prior to Obama occupying the White House? Is our school system better than it was in the seventies before Carter and the new Cabinet?
Ten times? You're making up tall tales Frank.$73 Billion in 2006.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#174100 Oct 6, 2013
Close Lincoln Park in Washington DC.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174101 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Ten times? You're making up tall tales Frank.$73 Billion in 2006.
The Department of Education budget was $32 billion in 2009,before Obama added an addition $100 billion from stimulus.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174103 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Frank, NEA is not funded by tax dollars. It is funded by teachers who are private individuals.
Schools rely on DoE money. It's just plain stupid to say that doesn't help students when schools can hire more teachers when their overhead is subsidized.
About 90% of tax dollars used to pay elementary and secondary teachers come from state and local taxes.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174104 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>About 90% of tax dollars used to pay elementary and secondary teachers come from state and local taxes.
That's news?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174105 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The Department of Education budget was $32 billion in 2009,before Obama added an addition $100 billion from stimulus.
$73 Bn in 2006. UR cherry picking. And a school lunches don't help students? Since you have admitted you don't know how the money is spent you cannot say it doesn't help students.
Grow up.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174106 Oct 6, 2013
Hey Frank, ten times $32 Bn would be $320 Bn. Looks like the school system failed with you.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#174109 Oct 7, 2013
DING DING DING DING!!!

hey all you obama morons....your welfare checks are in!!
John Kenney

Thailand

#174110 Oct 7, 2013
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SGT Rock101

Gretna, LA

#174111 Oct 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
<quoted text>
Other than DoD schools, can you name one Federal elementary, middle, or high school? Where in the Tenth Amendment does it give the Federal government the right to interfere with state run schools?
Likewise, can you name me one accomplishment of the Department of Energy besides the production of nuclear weapons?
Likewise, can you name one job creased by the Department of Labor?
Well, DOE, in conjunction with several corps, created the "fracking" process whereby this nation is now, as of last year, energy independent.

DOEducation purpose is not to teach schools but to facilitate educational opportunities. School boards willingly accept federal grants and other monies and agree, thereby, to follow DOEd guidelines and procedures. Therefore any influence is voluntary by the school boards. Amendments are not appropriate in this situation. Didn't you learn this in your social studies class'? Were you home schooled by wacko tea baggers?
Dept of Labor insures business' comply with laws and regulations pertaining to workers and employers of several amendments. Really, you need to be better educated before you ask such basic elementary school questions. You come off as an illiterate neo Nazi rabble rousing brown shirt. Are you one, a neo Nazi? If so, get off the forum. Your kind is not wanted here.
Joe OBiden

Jacksonville, FL

#174112 Oct 7, 2013
Hummm, I knew those Jews were anti-Muslim.

Israel police arrest 14 minors over anti-Arab crimes

Jerusalem (AFP)- Police have arrested 14 Jewish Israeli youths from Jerusalem on suspicion of carrying out a series of attacks targeting Arab Israelis, a spokesman said on Sunday.

Micky Rosenfeld told AFP that the minors aged between 13 and 16, attended yeshivot -- religious Jewish seminaries.

They were arrested in a series of raids "for attacking Arab Israelis or their property over the last months in Jerusalem," he said.

Rosenfeld said the attacks were believed to be in "revenge for terror attacks on Jewish Israelis," and the police Twitter account alleged that the youths had acted as a gang.
http://news.yahoo.com/israel-police-arrest-14...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174113 Oct 7, 2013
Well Friday is coming up fast but I still don't think it will be anywhere near 3,000 trucks. Maybe 300. I go go into all the different angles, but I won't bother you.

D.C. Shutdown Is Full-Speed Ahead, Say Organizers of Trucker Protest
'The shutdown is actually a traffic jam,' explains former country music star, who offers to cancel ride if Obama is impeached

By STEVEN NELSON
September 30, 2013

There may or may not be a government shutdown in October, but truckers are heading toward Washington, D.C., regardless, aiming to shut the city down themselves.

"The shutdown is actually a traffic jam," former country music star and event organizer Zeeda Andrews told U.S. News. "This is a three-day traffic jam."

Andrews, a former spokesmodel for Mack Trucks, says around 3,000 truckers are planning to zoom through and around Washington, D.C., beginning Oct. 11.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/09/3...
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174114 Oct 7, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>You have that backward. Nearly ninety percent of the country wanted health care reform. Polls show that nearly eighty percent of the the country oppose ObamaKare. Most of the people that support ObamaKare only support it because they don't want to discredit Obama. If Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008 and this was HillaryKare,the same people would still oppose it if it adversely effected the lives of nearly 300 million United States citizens.
Centrist Corporate Obama and Centrist Corporate Hillary are LINOS.

Liberal In Name Only.

Liberal Progressive Democrats and like you said 90% wanted healthcare reform, MEDICARE FOR ALL AMERICANS would have been Single Payer and the better way to go.

Obama went with the Republican plan which keeps the Middle Man, Big Pharma and Big HMOs making the loins share of the profits.

The Republican Party always hated Social Security and Medicare for average Americans.

The past several years the Democrats are willing to cut more of it which makes them evil as well.

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President Eisenhower once noted that a few Texas oil millionaires wanted to abolish social security / http://tinyurl.com/bp7h8 / Nov. 8, 1954
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp
Dale

Wichita, KS

#174115 Oct 7, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Crash and burn. Pathetic.
A country has a certain jurisdiction whether it is a constitutional republic, monarchy, or other form of government. A definition of jurisdiction of a government is not dependent on any particular form of government. See for example the definition in Black's Law Dictionary.
jurisdiction, n.(14c) 1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory;
The Constitution makes reference to the jurisdiction of the United States.(Does Dufus believe this is a self-reference to the constitution?) Dale seems incapable of defining the jurisdiction of the United States; rather he conflates the terms constitution and jurisdiction. While authority to exercise power flows from the constitution, jurisdiction i.e., the actual power to exercise within the dominion is not a document. The limits of a jurisdiction are not the four corners of a document but a territory over which dominion is exercised.
He seems to believe that the jurisdiction of the United States, the power to exercise authority within its borders is limited to its own citizens. This turns the notion of sovereignty on its head. A country needs no permission from a foreign power to govern within its own borders.
Dale needs to get educated and to grow up.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Are you really that stupid? Without the Constitution there isn't a nation/country called the United States of America.

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