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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Frank

Spokane, WA

#174101 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Ten times? You're making up tall tales Frank.$73 Billion in 2006.
The Department of Education budget was $32 billion in 2009,before Obama added an addition $100 billion from stimulus.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174103 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry Frank, NEA is not funded by tax dollars. It is funded by teachers who are private individuals.
Schools rely on DoE money. It's just plain stupid to say that doesn't help students when schools can hire more teachers when their overhead is subsidized.
About 90% of tax dollars used to pay elementary and secondary teachers come from state and local taxes.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174104 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>About 90% of tax dollars used to pay elementary and secondary teachers come from state and local taxes.
That's news?
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174105 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The Department of Education budget was $32 billion in 2009,before Obama added an addition $100 billion from stimulus.
$73 Bn in 2006. UR cherry picking. And a school lunches don't help students? Since you have admitted you don't know how the money is spent you cannot say it doesn't help students.
Grow up.
wojar

Bristol, CT

#174106 Oct 6, 2013
Hey Frank, ten times $32 Bn would be $320 Bn. Looks like the school system failed with you.
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#174109 Oct 7, 2013
DING DING DING DING!!!

hey all you obama morons....your welfare checks are in!!
John Kenney

Thailand

#174110 Oct 7, 2013
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Watch my Video above and You will Know I can produce any kind of document You need.
SGT Rock101

Gretna, LA

#174111 Oct 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
<quoted text>
Other than DoD schools, can you name one Federal elementary, middle, or high school? Where in the Tenth Amendment does it give the Federal government the right to interfere with state run schools?
Likewise, can you name me one accomplishment of the Department of Energy besides the production of nuclear weapons?
Likewise, can you name one job creased by the Department of Labor?
Well, DOE, in conjunction with several corps, created the "fracking" process whereby this nation is now, as of last year, energy independent.

DOEducation purpose is not to teach schools but to facilitate educational opportunities. School boards willingly accept federal grants and other monies and agree, thereby, to follow DOEd guidelines and procedures. Therefore any influence is voluntary by the school boards. Amendments are not appropriate in this situation. Didn't you learn this in your social studies class'? Were you home schooled by wacko tea baggers?
Dept of Labor insures business' comply with laws and regulations pertaining to workers and employers of several amendments. Really, you need to be better educated before you ask such basic elementary school questions. You come off as an illiterate neo Nazi rabble rousing brown shirt. Are you one, a neo Nazi? If so, get off the forum. Your kind is not wanted here.
Joe OBiden

Jacksonville, FL

#174112 Oct 7, 2013
Hummm, I knew those Jews were anti-Muslim.

Israel police arrest 14 minors over anti-Arab crimes

Jerusalem (AFP)- Police have arrested 14 Jewish Israeli youths from Jerusalem on suspicion of carrying out a series of attacks targeting Arab Israelis, a spokesman said on Sunday.

Micky Rosenfeld told AFP that the minors aged between 13 and 16, attended yeshivot -- religious Jewish seminaries.

They were arrested in a series of raids "for attacking Arab Israelis or their property over the last months in Jerusalem," he said.

Rosenfeld said the attacks were believed to be in "revenge for terror attacks on Jewish Israelis," and the police Twitter account alleged that the youths had acted as a gang.
http://news.yahoo.com/israel-police-arrest-14...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174113 Oct 7, 2013
Well Friday is coming up fast but I still don't think it will be anywhere near 3,000 trucks. Maybe 300. I go go into all the different angles, but I won't bother you.

D.C. Shutdown Is Full-Speed Ahead, Say Organizers of Trucker Protest
'The shutdown is actually a traffic jam,' explains former country music star, who offers to cancel ride if Obama is impeached

By STEVEN NELSON
September 30, 2013

There may or may not be a government shutdown in October, but truckers are heading toward Washington, D.C., regardless, aiming to shut the city down themselves.

"The shutdown is actually a traffic jam," former country music star and event organizer Zeeda Andrews told U.S. News. "This is a three-day traffic jam."

Andrews, a former spokesmodel for Mack Trucks, says around 3,000 truckers are planning to zoom through and around Washington, D.C., beginning Oct. 11.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/09/3...
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174114 Oct 7, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>You have that backward. Nearly ninety percent of the country wanted health care reform. Polls show that nearly eighty percent of the the country oppose ObamaKare. Most of the people that support ObamaKare only support it because they don't want to discredit Obama. If Hillary Clinton were elected in 2008 and this was HillaryKare,the same people would still oppose it if it adversely effected the lives of nearly 300 million United States citizens.
Centrist Corporate Obama and Centrist Corporate Hillary are LINOS.

Liberal In Name Only.

Liberal Progressive Democrats and like you said 90% wanted healthcare reform, MEDICARE FOR ALL AMERICANS would have been Single Payer and the better way to go.

Obama went with the Republican plan which keeps the Middle Man, Big Pharma and Big HMOs making the loins share of the profits.

The Republican Party always hated Social Security and Medicare for average Americans.

The past several years the Democrats are willing to cut more of it which makes them evil as well.

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President Eisenhower once noted that a few Texas oil millionaires wanted to abolish social security / http://tinyurl.com/bp7h8 / Nov. 8, 1954
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/ike.asp
Dale

Wichita, KS

#174115 Oct 7, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Crash and burn. Pathetic.
A country has a certain jurisdiction whether it is a constitutional republic, monarchy, or other form of government. A definition of jurisdiction of a government is not dependent on any particular form of government. See for example the definition in Black's Law Dictionary.
jurisdiction, n.(14c) 1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory;
The Constitution makes reference to the jurisdiction of the United States.(Does Dufus believe this is a self-reference to the constitution?) Dale seems incapable of defining the jurisdiction of the United States; rather he conflates the terms constitution and jurisdiction. While authority to exercise power flows from the constitution, jurisdiction i.e., the actual power to exercise within the dominion is not a document. The limits of a jurisdiction are not the four corners of a document but a territory over which dominion is exercised.
He seems to believe that the jurisdiction of the United States, the power to exercise authority within its borders is limited to its own citizens. This turns the notion of sovereignty on its head. A country needs no permission from a foreign power to govern within its own borders.
Dale needs to get educated and to grow up.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Are you really that stupid? Without the Constitution there isn't a nation/country called the United States of America.
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174116 Oct 7, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Republicans have always supported various plans to reform the health care system. No Republicans have ever supported fifty new taxes tied to health care or 2700 pages of government requirements that have nothing at all to do with health care. ObamaKare was nothing more than a plan to allow government to control the lives of United States citizens and to perpetuate the Obama ideals of taking dollars out of the pockets of hard working individual to allow him to waste it as he sees fit.
The Health Care Law Guru vs. the Conservative who Inspired It
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/businessdesk/2013...

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People Want Full Medicare for All
by Ralph Nader / September 26, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/kazjgbq
Freshman Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who somehow got through Princeton and Harvard Law School, is the best news the defaulting Democratic Party has had in years.
As the Texas bull in the Senate china shop, he has been making a majority of his Republican colleagues cringe with his bare-knuckle antics and language. His 21-hour talkathon on the Senate floor demanding the defunding of Obamacare made his Republican colleagues cringe. His Nazi appeasement analogies and threats to shut down were especially embarrassing
After listening to his lengthy rant on the Senate Floor on Tuesday and Wednesday, one comes away with two distinct impressions. Ted Cruz cannot resist inserting himself here, there and everywhere. And nothing is too trivial for Senator Talkathon. He likes White Castle hamburgers, he loves pancakes; he talked about what he liked to read as a little boy, where he’s traveled, what clothes he wears and other trivia.
You’d think he would have used his time to talk specifically about the suffering that uninsured people and their children are going through, especially in the Lone Star State. Or about what could replace Obamacare other than his repeated “free market” solution, which is to say the “pay or die” profiteering, tax-subsidized corporate system.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/09/26-1...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174117 Oct 7, 2013
SGT Rock101 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, DOE, in conjunction with several corps, created the "fracking" process whereby this nation is now, as of last year, energy independent.
DOEducation purpose is not to teach schools but to facilitate educational opportunities. School boards willingly accept federal grants and other monies and agree, thereby, to follow DOEd guidelines and procedures. Therefore any influence is voluntary by the school boards. Amendments are not appropriate in this situation. Didn't you learn this in your social studies class'? Were you home schooled by wacko tea baggers?
Dept of Labor insures business' comply with laws and regulations pertaining to workers and employers of several amendments. Really, you need to be better educated before you ask such basic elementary school questions. You come off as an illiterate neo Nazi rabble rousing brown shirt. Are you one, a neo Nazi? If so, get off the forum. Your kind is not wanted here.
Again, rad the 10th Amendment. States can and should do all of those things.
And typical Libtardian logic. Fascism is all about control at the Federal level. As a Conservative I want minimum Federal control If anyone is a Nazi, it is you Libtards as you are sooo stupid you have no idea what Fascism is.
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174118 Oct 7, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Republicans have always supported various plans to reform the health care system. No Republicans have ever supported fifty new taxes tied to health care or 2700 pages of government requirements that have nothing at all to do with health care. ObamaKare was nothing more than a plan to allow government to control the lives of United States citizens and to perpetuate the Obama ideals of taking dollars out of the pockets of hard working individual to allow him to waste it as he sees fit.
Obama says Heritage Foundation is source of health exchange idea
March 30th, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/26xm72p
EDITOR'S NOTE: An analysis of this comment by President Barack Obama was published on April 1, 2010. After it appeared, the Heritage Foundation's communications office contacted us to argue that our rating of Mostly True was too generous to the president. We did some additional reporting to review our ruling. Our second round of reporting -- primarily talking to conservative policy experts outside of Heritage -- solidified our initial conclusions. Below is the updated version of our story, which retains the rating of Mostly True, published April 26, 2010.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

Summary Of A 1993 Republican Health Reform Plan
Feb 23, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/amcg2tz
In November, 1993, Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., introduced what was considered to be one of the main Republican health overhaul proposals: "A bill to provide comprehensive reform of the health care system of the United States."
Titled the "Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act of 1993," it had 21 co-sponsors, including two Democrats (Sens. Boren and Kerrey). The bill, which was not debated or voted upon, was an alternative to President Bill Clinton's plan. It bears similarity to the Democratic bill passed by the Senate Dec. 24, 2009, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2010/...
Dale

Wichita, KS

#174119 Oct 7, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
So Dufus doesn't care how many stateless people there are? Pretty odd since he was so hot and bothered about getting an answer about which country was an alien's country though seemingly unaware that there need be no country.
Duh!
Simply saying so doesn't make it so. Neither the founders nor the framers of the 14th Amendment believed in the Play Law definition of jurisdiction. It is the intent of Congress according to their words as construed by the US courts that determines the meaning of the 14th Amendment and not some silly disjointed meaningless rambling babble from an uneducated grandiose psycho.
And Dufus has it arse backwards. Natural born citizenship derives from the tie of natural allegiance according to the law as understood in this country since its founding. Dufus cannot change that by simply saying otherwise.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Still makes no difference an alien has never "subject to the Jurisdiction, thereof".(see 14th amend)
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174121 Oct 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, rad the 10th Amendment. States can and should do all of those things.
And typical Libtardian logic. Fascism is all about control at the Federal level. As a Conservative I want minimum Federal control If anyone is a Nazi, it is you Libtards as you are sooo stupid you have no idea what Fascism is.
According to Conservative Republican Sandra Day O'Connor it is the Rightwing who are the fascist and dictators.

Rightwingers stole the election in 2000 and Bush destroyed America.

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Former Top Judge Says US Risks Edging Near to Dictatorship
Bush Republicans Dangerous To USA Democracy
· Sandra Day O'Connor warns of rightwing attacks
· Lawyers 'must speak up' to protect judiciary
http://tinyurl.com/24l3fb / March 13, 2006
Sandra Day O'Connor, a Republican-appointed judge who retired last month after 24 years on the supreme court, has said the US is in danger of edging towards dictatorship if the party's rightwingers continue to attack the judiciary.
In a strongly worded speech at Georgetown University, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, Ms O'Connor took aim at Republican leaders whose repeated denunciations of the courts for alleged liberal bias could, she said, be contributing to a climate of violence against judges.
Ms O'Connor, nominated by Ronald Reagan as the first woman supreme court justice, declared: "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary."
She pointed to autocracies in the developing world and former Communist countries as lessons on where interference with the judiciary might lead. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom", and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up.
She noted death threats against judges were on the rise and added that the situation was not helped by a senior senator's suggestion that there might be a connection between the violence against judges and the decisions they make.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi...

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Sandra Day O'Connor questions court's decision to take Bush v. Gore
April 27, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/c9sy69e
Retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor hasn't given much thought to which was the most important case she helped decide during her 25 years on the bench. But she has no doubt which was the most controversial.

It was Bush v. Gore, which ended the Florida recount and decided the 2000 presidential election.

Looking back, O'Connor said, she isn't sure the high court should have taken the case.

"It took the case and decided it at a time when it was still a big election issue," O'Connor said during a talk Friday with the Tribune editorial board. "Maybe the court should have said,'We're not going to take it, goodbye.'"

The case, she said, "stirred up the public" and "gave the court a less-than-perfect reputation."

"Obviously the court did reach a decision and thought it had to reach a decision," she said. "It turned out the election authorities in Florida hadn't done a real good job there and kind of messed it up. And probably the Supreme Court added to the problem at the end of the day."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-m...
Dale

Wichita, KS

#174122 Oct 7, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. The constitution spells out the form of government. It specifies the metes and bounds. The constitution is no more a government than is a blueprint an automobile or piece of machinery.
If you cannot understand that you are suffering from sever cognitive disorder.
A blueprint specifies the structure of a machine but it is the machine that has the power to act.
Similarly the constitution specifies the form of the government, but it is the government that has the jurisdiction, i.e., the power to act over its territories.
The United States has the power to regulate the behavior of aliens within its territories without any permission from any foreign state. Aliens in the US are under the jurisdiction of the United States. But the constitution, a set of laws, has no power to act.
<quoted text>
LMAO!! Aliens have never been "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof".(see 14th amendment)
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174123 Oct 7, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, rad the 10th Amendment. States can and should do all of those things.
And typical Libtardian logic. Fascism is all about control at the Federal level. As a Conservative I want minimum Federal control If anyone is a Nazi, it is you Libtards as you are sooo stupid you have no idea what Fascism is.
Frequently Asked Questions: Defending Citizenship Under the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
January 4, 2011 / http://tinyurl.com/nf3pgbr
What is the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment?
The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that, with few discrete exceptions, people born in the United States are citizens of this country, irrespective of race, ethnicity, or national origin of their parents. The Amendment was ratified to rectify one of the most infamous U.S. Supreme Court rulings in our nation’s history – the Dred Scott v. Sandford[1] decision of 1857, in which the Court held that no individuals of African descent, including slaves and free persons, could ever become U.S. citizens.
In response to Dred Scott, Congress passed and the states ratified the 14th Amendment. Its very first sentence states unambiguously:“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
The intent of these powerful words was to put citizenship above the politics and prejudices of any given era, a goal that is as important today as it was at the time of the 14th Amendment’s ratification.
http://www.aclu.org/immigrants-rights-racial-...

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Fact Sheet on U.S. "Constitution Free Zone"
October 22, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/6ygfv8
Normally under the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the American people are not generally subject to random and arbitrary stops and searches. The border, however, has always been an exception. There, the longstanding view is that the normal rules do not apply. For example the authorities do not need a warrant or probable cause to conduct a “routine search.” But what is “the border”? According to the government, it is a 100-mile wide strip that wraps around the “external boundary” of the United States. As a result of this claimed authority, individuals who are far away from the border, American citizens traveling from one place in America to another, are being stopped and harassed in ways that our Constitution does not permit.
http://www.aclu.org/privacy/37293res20081022....
Linktv org

West Sayville, NY

#174124 Oct 7, 2013
DARE NONE CALL THE DELIBERATE DISMANTLING OF AMERICA AS CONSPIRACY?/ A CHRONOLOGICAL HISTORY OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
http://tinyurl.com/mnbrxto /

The resolution was first introduced in the Senate on September 13, 1949 by Senator Glen Taylor (D-Idaho). Senator Alexander Wiley (R-Wisconsin) called it "a consummation devoutly to be wished for" and said, "I understand your proposition is either change the United Nations, or change or create, by a separate convention, a world order." Senator Taylor later stated:

"We would have to sacrifice considerable sovereignty to the world organization to enable them to levy taxes in their own right to support themselves."

1950 -- In testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, international financier James P Warburg said:

"we shall have a world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."

April 12, 1952 -- John Foster Dulles, later to become Secretary of State, says in a speech to the American Bar Association in Louisville, Kentucky, that "treaty laws can override the Constitution." He says treaties can take power away from Congress and give them to the President. They can take powers from the States and give them to the Federal Government or to some international body and they can cut across the rights given to the people by their constitutional Bill of Rights. A Senate amendment, proposed by GOP Senator John Bricker, would have provided that no treaty could supersede the Constitution, but it fails to pass by one vote.

1954 -- Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands establishes the Bilderbergers, international politicians and bankers who meet secretly on an annual basis.

1954 -- H. Rowan Gaither, Jr., President - Ford Foundation said to Norman Dodd of the Congressional Reese Commission:

"... all of us here at the policy-making level have had experience with directives... from the White House.... The substance of them is that we shall use our grant-making power so as to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."
1954 -- Senator William Jenner said:

"Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people... outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side.... All the strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to this group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure.... This political action group has its own local political support organizations, its own pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our government, and its own propaganda apparatus."

The Future of Federalism by author Nelson Rockefeller is published. The one-time Governor of New York, claims that current events compellingly demand a "new world order," as the old order is crumbling, and there is "a new and free order struggling to be born." Rockefeller says there is:

"a fever of nationalism...[but] the nation-state is becoming less and less competent to perform its international political tasks....These are some of the reasons pressing us to lead vigorously toward the true building of a "new world order...
http://constitution.org/col/cuddy_nwo.htm

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