BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Frank

Spokane, WA

#174028 Oct 5, 2013
wojar wrote:
I am so sad when I hear of educational programs that work on teaching math to math challenged children. I don't care how much effort they put into getting children to understand the equal sign. It's a waste of time.
The simple fact is I and everyone I know in the sciences understood math like water running down the back of a duck.
We need to put our efforts into developing the talents of children who have talent rather than try to get blood out of a stone.
On the other hand, we need to identify children with talent and ability. Wherever it may be, inner city or burbs, and invest in their future, which is our future.
JOHN WILSON EXEC DIRECTOR $410,133.00 $82,351.00 $492,484.00
DENNIS VAN ROEKEL PRESIDENT $362,644.00 $97,416.00 $460,060.00
LILY ESKELSEN VICE PRESIDENT $293,626.00 $78,278.00 $371,904.00
JOHN YRCHIK ST.AFF EXECDIR $326,333.00 $2,284.00 $328,617.00
BECKY PRINGLE NEA SECTY/TREAS $241,642.00 $83,742.00 $325,384.00
JOYCE POWELL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE $260,557.00 $25,116.00 $285,673.00
THANG NGUYEN INTERIMDIR $282,276.00 $2,949.00 $285,225.00
JOHN STOCKS DEPEXECDIR $254,504.00 $18,642.00 $273,146.00
MAURICE JOSEPH DEPGENCOUNSEL $257,257.00 $5,806.00 $263,063.00
BOUY TE DIRECTOR $248,259.00 $13,912.00 $262,171.00
RONALD HENDERSON DIRECTOR $250,169.00 $10,504.00 $260,673.00
BARBY HALSTEAD-WORRELL DIRECTOR $237,361.00 $22,618.00 $259,979.00
MICHAEL EDWARDS SR POL ADV/DIR $256,917.00 $1,392.00 $258,309.00
DANIEL HAND DIRECTOR $230,793.00 $24,092.00 $254,885.00
HT NGUYEN ST.AFF EXECDIR $243,200.00 $232.00 $243,432.00
MICHAEL MCPHERSON CFO $231,237.00 $10,151.00 $241,388.00
LEN PAOLILLO EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE $195,725.00 $44,941.00 $240,666.00
ALICE O'BRIEN ATTORNEY $225,000.00 $11,327.00 $236,327.00
BILL THOMPSON DIRECTOR $228,920.00 $7,342.00 $236,262.00
Frank

Spokane, WA

#174029 Oct 5, 2013
wojar wrote:
I am so sad when I hear of educational programs that work on teaching math to math challenged children. I don't care how much effort they put into getting children to understand the equal sign. It's a waste of time.
The simple fact is I and everyone I know in the sciences understood math like water running down the back of a duck.
We need to put our efforts into developing the talents of children who have talent rather than try to get blood out of a stone.
On the other hand, we need to identify children with talent and ability. Wherever it may be, inner city or burbs, and invest in their future, which is our future.
The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees. The budget since Obama started occupying the White House is astronomical: US$32 billion (2009)[1]
US$56 billion (est. 2010)
US$71 billion (est. 2011)
US$68.1 billion (2012)
US$69.8 billion (2013)
ARRA Funding:
US$102 billion (2009)[1]
US$51 billion (est. 2010)
US$23 billion (est. 2011)
US $19.4 billion (2012)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#174030 Oct 5, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>JOHN WILSON EXEC DIRECTOR $410,133.00 $82,351.00 $492,484.00
DENNIS VAN ROEKEL PRESIDENT $362,644.00 $97,416.00 $460,060.00
LILY ESKELSEN VICE PRESIDENT $293,626.00 $78,278.00 $371,904.00
JOHN YRCHIK ST.AFF EXECDIR $326,333.00 $2,284.00 $328,617.00
BECKY PRINGLE NEA SECTY/TREAS $241,642.00 $83,742.00 $325,384.00
JOYCE POWELL EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE $260,557.00 $25,116.00 $285,673.00
THANG NGUYEN INTERIMDIR $282,276.00 $2,949.00 $285,225.00
JOHN STOCKS DEPEXECDIR $254,504.00 $18,642.00 $273,146.00
MAURICE JOSEPH DEPGENCOUNSEL $257,257.00 $5,806.00 $263,063.00
BOUY TE DIRECTOR $248,259.00 $13,912.00 $262,171.00
RONALD HENDERSON DIRECTOR $250,169.00 $10,504.00 $260,673.00
BARBY HALSTEAD-WORRELL DIRECTOR $237,361.00 $22,618.00 $259,979.00
MICHAEL EDWARDS SR POL ADV/DIR $256,917.00 $1,392.00 $258,309.00
DANIEL HAND DIRECTOR $230,793.00 $24,092.00 $254,885.00
HT NGUYEN ST.AFF EXECDIR $243,200.00 $232.00 $243,432.00
MICHAEL MCPHERSON CFO $231,237.00 $10,151.00 $241,388.00
LEN PAOLILLO EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE $195,725.00 $44,941.00 $240,666.00
ALICE O'BRIEN ATTORNEY $225,000.00 $11,327.00 $236,327.00
BILL THOMPSON DIRECTOR $228,920.00 $7,342.00 $236,262.00
Frank, I'm just as sad when a senile fool posts a bunch of stuff he doesn't understand and can't even write a coherent sentence.
wojar wrote:
I am so sad when I hear of educational programs that work on teaching math to math challenged children. I don't care how much effort they put into getting children to understand the equal sign. It's a waste of time.
The simple fact is I and everyone I know in the sciences understood math like water running down the back of a duck.
We need to put our efforts into developing the talents of children who have talent rather than try to get blood out of a stone.
On the other hand, we need to identify children with talent and ability. Wherever it may be, inner city or burbs, and invest in their future, which is our future.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#174031 Oct 5, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.

RU taking your Aricept?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#174032 Oct 5, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
Wowee Zowee Frank. Got a clue how big this country is?

There are several MILLION teachers in the US.

Duh!
Oolongti

Austin, TX

#174033 Oct 5, 2013
Whatever happened to THe Donald's, Sheriff Arapaio, and the rest of their ilk PROVING beyond a shadow of a douche that the President is not born in this country?
I thought they had irrefutable proof....
guess that went out the door with BIgfoot, chupacabras, and Nessie!
Guru

Canyon Country, CA

#174035 Oct 5, 2013
obama's legitimacy can be resolved by answering this question:

why does he have 5 aliases? Who needs 5 of them? And why did he sign a dead man's name on his house in 2009, using his SS# of the dead guy, who had been born over 120 years ago. it is on the deed to obama's house. He signed it. It was recorded.

Anyone who can explain that gets the prize; $1,000,000!
Joe OBiden

Jacksonville, FL

#174036 Oct 6, 2013
Vasectomy

A man goes into the hospital for a vasectomy. Before the procedure a very attractive nurse comes in and takes his vitals, then tells him to take all of his clothes off.


When he is fully undressed she instructs him to lie down on the table. The man obeys. The nurse then takes all of her clothes off and climbs on top and has her way with him.

Upon the completion of the act the man catches his breath and asks what that was all about. The nurse informs the patient that studies have shown that before a vasectomy if the man has an ejaculation, he will be more relaxed and that the cord is easier for the surgeon to locate and sever, thereby making the surgery safer, more efficient and quicker.

The nurse then wheels the patient to the operating room.

While they are going down the hall the patient looks through a window to the right and sees six men in a room masturbating.

Curious, the man asks," What are they doing in there"?

The nurse responds, " They're preparing for vasectomies too, but you have Blue Cross, and they have Obama Care."
Joe OBiden

Jacksonville, FL

#174037 Oct 6, 2013
Guru wrote:
obama's legitimacy can be resolved by answering this question:
why does he have 5 aliases? Who needs 5 of them? And why did he sign a dead man's name on his house in 2009, using his SS# of the dead guy, who had been born over 120 years ago. it is on the deed to obama's house. He signed it. It was recorded.
Anyone who can explain that gets the prize; $1,000,000!
You funny man. You make me go "ha ha ha"

“DC Police Complaint #T14002751”

Since: Nov 08

Swift Water,NY

#174038 Oct 6, 2013
Obama is a fraud,usurper,traitor,spy and criminally degenerate miscreant.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174039 Oct 6, 2013
In the past few months Obama has been Klown stomped by the Syrians, the Russians, the Iranian and now the Chinese and he is betting his last dollar trying to stop the Republicans in the House. He may win the CR issue but 2014 looks like a very bad year for the Dummycrats.

As Obama's Asia 'pivot' falters, China steps into the gap
By Stuart Grudgings

KUALA LUMPUR (Reuters)- When then U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared two years ago "We are back to stay" as a power in Asia, the most dramatic symbol of the policy shift was the planned deployment of 2,500 U.S. Marines in northern Australia, primed to respond to any regional conflict.

At this point in time, however, there is not a single U.S. Marine in the tropical northern city of Darwin, according to the Australian defense ministry. Two hundred Marines just finished their six-month tour and will not be replaced until next year, when 1,150 Marines are due to arrive.

The original goal of stationing 2,500 Marines there by 2017 remains in place, but the lack of a U.S. presence there two years after the policy was announced underlines questions about Washington's commitment to the strategic "pivot" to Asia.

President Barack Obama's cancellation of a trip this week to four Asian nations and two regional summits due to the U.S. government shutdown has raised further doubts over a policy aimed at re-invigorating U.S. military and economic influence in the fast-growing region, while balancing a rising China.
http://news.yahoo.com/obamas-asia-pivot-falte...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#174041 Oct 6, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
Obama is a fraud,usurper,traitor,spy and criminally degenerate miscreant.
Speaking of the return of failure.
SGT Rock101

Gretna, LA

#174042 Oct 6, 2013
I'm sure Thomas Jefferson had a semi-automatic rifle. The right to commit mass murder shall not be abridged.
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be a blatant act of treason and would require a responsible citizenry to act upon it.
Thomas Jefferson articulates this very well.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”(Quoting Cesare Beccaria)
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.
The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.
To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.(Back then!)
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174043 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
Other than DoD schools, can you name one Federal elementary, middle, or high school? Where in the Tenth Amendment does it give the Federal government the right to interfere with state run schools?
Likewise, can you name me one accomplishment of the Department of Energy besides the production of nuclear weapons?
Likewise, can you name one job creased by the Department of Labor?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174044 Oct 6, 2013
Report 0919 2013 FBI is used as NAZI Gestapo
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#174045 Oct 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The United States
Department of Education does not teach a single child,and has 5,000 employees.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
5,000 employees pales in comparison to the number of teachers, Fwank.
RU taking your Aricept?
Other than DoD schools, can you name one Federal elementary, middle, or high school? Where in the Tenth Amendment does it give the Federal government the right to interfere with state run schools?
Likewise, can you name me one accomplishment of the Department of Energy besides the production of nuclear weapons?
Likewise, can you name one job created by the Department of Labor?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#174046 Oct 6, 2013
Guru wrote:
obama's legitimacy can be resolved by answering this question:
why does he have 5 aliases? Who needs 5 of them? And why did he sign a dead man's name on his house in 2009, using his SS# of the dead guy, who had been born over 120 years ago. it is on the deed to obama's house. He signed it. It was recorded.
Anyone who can explain that gets the prize; $1,000,000!
he didn't have five aliases, birther sites simply told you that he did, and you , you gullible fool, believed them. He did not sign a dead man's name on his house, birther sites simply told you that he did, and you, you gullible fool, believed them. He did not use the SS number of a dead man, birther sites simply told you that he did, and you, you gullible fool, believed them.

Birther sites LIED. They lied about what Obama's Kenyan grandmother said. She said repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii, "where his father was studying at the time". Yet birther sites simply did not quote that remark of hers and continued to allege that she had said that Obama was born in Kenya---which she never said at all. They did the same thing about the current governor of Hawaii, Abercombie. They said that he had said that he could not find Obama's birth certificate in the files. But he never said any such thing. In fact, three Hawaii officials stated that they had seen Obama's BC in the files, but birther sites did not report that and claimed that Abercrombie said that he could not find it, and he never said any such thing. Birther sites have an obviously twisted motive, and they LIE. So, why believe them?

And the Cold Case Posse lied about the meaning of the numeral "9" and other birthers have forged "Kenyan birth certificates" and still others have forged videos claiming that Obama said that he was born in Kenya and still others published made-up reports that claimed that Obama's lawyer "admitted" that Obama's BC was forged, when, once again, she never said any such thing. And there was Tim Adams, who LIED when he claimed that others at the Election Commission told him that Obama's BC was not in the files, when nobody has come forward to confirm what he said, and when three officials have said that Obama's BC really is in the files, where it is supposed to be.

In short, birther sites lie. Why believe them?

Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#174047 Oct 6, 2013
Robert Laity wrote:
Obama is a fraud,usurper,traitor,spy and criminally degenerate miscreant.
Yes, True, because he sold out all liberal/progressives and not for the phony baloney reasons you think like he was born in Kenya and the Clinton's murdered Vince Foster back in the 1990s.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#174048 Oct 6, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Ellen, you cannot persuade Dale, who is the master of the "stream of unconsciousness" technique. He's so delusional he probably thinks I gave him a compliment.
I do not write to persuade slimy Dale. I write for others, who are tempted to think that there may be some truth to the "two parent" myth. For them, I point out that the two parent myth is neither in accord with strict construction principles nor in accord with libertarian principles. And, it certainly is NOT in accord with the principle that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..." In fact, it assumes (without any evidence whatever) that the writers of the US Constitution did NOT believe that the US-born children of foreigners were just as loyal as the US-born children of US citizens. IF the writers of the US Constitution had thought that the US-born children of foreigners should be lower-level citizens than the US-born children of US citizens, they could easily have said so----but they didn't.

Unless and until there is evidence that the writers of the Constitution thought to the contrary (and there is NO such evidence), the principle still applies to presidential elections as to all other things under the law: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#174049 Oct 6, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
Plenty of warnings before Bengahzi that were completely ignored as well. Your subjective interpretation of blame clearly reveals your partisanship. To excuse the democrats of blame is despicable. Clinton had multiple opportunities to take out Bin Laden and was as uninterested as W was before the muslim sponsored attack. To try and push the narrative that you are makes you the enemy to our liberty as well. Our muslim president and the democrats had two years of total control of Washington and failed to act repealing the Patriot Act. Post all the links you want and wag your finger of blame on others as the president does. There are many who will continue to fall for your one sided propaganda campaign, but those of us who can see the end game your side has planned won't be suckered. Be very careful just how much anarchy your side desires for America, because once the gloves come off, you crazy bastards might not like the results you get.
Hey Obskeptic, you do know Hillary Clinton will be the first Woman President of the United States in 2016, don't you?

What Bengahzi proved is that NSA spying does not work.

I agree the Democrats are almost as evil as Republicans for not terminating the Patriot Act.

Bush and Cheney brought back J Edgar Hoover from the dead spying on all Americans.

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Spy Agency Data After Sept. 11 Led F.B.I. to Dead Ends
January 17, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/mn5p5yn
WASHINGTON, Jan. 16 - In the anxious months after the Sept. 11 attacks, the National Security Agency began sending a steady stream of telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and names to the F.B.I. in search of terrorists. The stream soon became a flood, requiring hundreds of agents to check out thousands of tips a month.
But virtually all of them, current and former officials say, led to dead ends or innocent Americans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/17/politics/17...

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