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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#173847 Oct 4, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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- There are 12 Costco locations within 30 miles of downtown Chicago. The average income across all 12 zip codes is $63,500 per person, per year. An average of 71% of the people who live in the zip codes are white while just 8% are black and 18.5% are Hispanic or Latino.
- There are 13 Sams Club locations in the same radius. The average income across those 13 zip codes was a third of Costco zip codes, just $26,200 per person, per year. In addition, three times as many black people and 38% more Hispanics live in Sams Club zip codes.
The comparison is more striking when examining Wal Mart zip codes:
There are 11 Wal Mart Supercenters or free standing, full service retail stores within 30 miles of downtown Chicago. The average income per person, per year in these zip codes is just $19,000. About 55% of residents of these zip codes are white, 26% black and 25% Hispanic. Also striking is that nearly 40% of people in Wal Mart zip codes rent rather than own their living space, suggesting an overall lower standard of living.
Walmart's zip code income stats are about to go lower. There are two Chicago super-centers planned to open this year. One will be in Hermosa, just west of Logan Square and another in the Pullman community. Once these open, the per person income averages I described above will plunge lower.
Also, worth noting is that I excluded Walmart Markets from the equation. These smaller mini marts occupy some of the poorest zip codes in Chicago including West Englewood. Two more are planned to open in Little Village and Back of the Yards this year. If included, these neighborhood markets would have also driven Walmart shoppers average income numbers much lower.
Whatever you think about Walmart and its practices, at least they don't have a corporate plan built around excluding low income communities and minorities from their establishments. If Costco dared to open more than one store in a lower income Chicagoland community, their entire local business model would implode within a year.
Brian Matos, communications director for the Chicago Young Republicans,

http://www.chicagonow.com/windy-city-young-re...
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#173848 Oct 4, 2013
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Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#173849 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're an idiot, Twinkerbelle. You and Ellen are neck and neck, who's gonna win that crown! LMAO!
Now why do you end almost every post LMAO??? Is it because that is the only thing you are capable typing?????
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173850 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
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All out of ammo the Play Justice hurls insults.
The Constitution creates nether natural born citizens nor persons. Both are created by nature:“UPON thefe two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws;”-Sir William Blackstone
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In those famous words of Conebread, "you're still an idiot"! You were born an idiot and shall die an idiot. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173851 Oct 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Poor delusional Romper. I've come to accept the fact that you're obsessed with me. That doesn't make it any less pathetic
Already starting to do the crawdaddy, huh? So early? LMAO! My guess would be, there isn't a single person alive that is obsessed with you, other than you, that is!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173852 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Boo hoo, Frank. Did he also promise your grandchildren ice cream every day? The ACA was passed by House and Senate and signed by the President. Like it or not, IT IS THE LAW.
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Like it or not, Obobblehead is a liar. Why do you support a known liar, Twinkerbelle? LMAO! lil raggy
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173853 Oct 4, 2013
nebka wrote:
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Now why do you end almost every post LMAO??? Is it because that is the only thing you are capable typing?????
Hey Nebka, go back to blowing your brother, otay? lil raggy

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173854 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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In those famous words of Conebread, "you're still an idiot"! You were born an idiot and shall die an idiot. LMAO!
And the feeble-minded Play Justice still cannot muster a rebuttal.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
All out of ammo the Play Justice hurls insults.
The Constitution creates nether natural born citizens nor persons. Both are created by nature:“UPON thefe two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws;”-Sir William Blackstone
<quoted text>
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173855 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
And the ACA also upheld by USSC. Sorry if your grandkids didn't get ice cream every day.
Only after Roberts was bought off! Why do you constantly leave out the important information? LMAO! lil raggy

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173856 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Hey Nebka, go back to blowing your brother, otay? lil raggy
There he goes again, so obsessed, projecting his repressed proclivities.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173857 Oct 4, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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YOU are a nut. The courts are right, and you are wrong. Bingham is right and you are wrong. The Heritage Foundation book is right, and you are wrong, the members of the Electoral College (not one of whom changed her or his vote to vote against Obama either in the 2008 or 2012 elections) is right and you are wrong. The US Supreme Court is right, and you are wrong. The US Congress, which confirmed Obama's election unanimously both times, is right, and you are wrong. The Chief Justice of the USA, who swore Obama in several times after each election, is right, and you are wrong.
And, most importantly of all, you cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there, and there is not a single word in the Constitution (or for that matter in the writings of ANY of the members of the Constitutional Convention) that says that two citizen parents are required in order to be eligible to be president of the USA. Not a word.
LMAO!!! You're the nut! Anyone that believes that the USSC can overrule the US Constitution doesn't belong on this thread.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173858 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
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"The sole authority to naturalize persons as citizens of the United States is conferred upon the Attorney General."
8 USC § 1421 (a)
Authority is vested in a government which acts through its agents. The Constitution contains the law, but it does not perform any actions as it is a piece of paper, an inanimate object.
Dufus Dale suffers serious intellectual impairment.
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LMAO!!! The 14th amendment has plainly shown that the Constitution holds the only authority for granting citizenship, one must be subject to its jurisdiction.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173859 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Already starting to do the crawdaddy, huh? So early? LMAO! My guess would be, there isn't a single person alive that is obsessed with you, other than you, that is!
Poor Romper. I'm still here and your still obsessing. Some things just don't change
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173860 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
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The Constitution creates neither natural born nor naturalized citizens.
Currently it it the US Attorney General who is vested with authority to naturalize persons per statute.
Natural born citizens are "created" by Nature, and the Founders recognized this principle derived from Natural Law as embodied in English Common Law.
The Constitution recognizes both citizens and persons but creates neither.
LMAO!!! The 14th amendment has plainly stated who are citizens of the US, either born or naturalized and Obama does not conform to either category.

There are requirements to be a citizen, so with those requirements the Constitution has created a citizen.

The 14th amendment was not created from the English common law as can be found in the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the debates of the 14th amendment.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173862 Oct 4, 2013
Twinkerbelle, was that your mother shooting up DC yesterday? LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173863 Oct 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Poor Romper. I'm still here and your still obsessing. Some things just don't change
"your"? <snickers>
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173864 Oct 4, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! The 14th amendment has plainly shown that the Constitution holds the only authority for granting citizenship, one must be subject to its jurisdiction.
And everyone born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is subject to its jurisdiction. As one of the key writers of the 14th Amendment, Bingham, said:

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

That is why with the exception of a few birther lawyers and other nuts, all the legal scholars and appeals courts agree with Bingham that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen.

Some examples:

"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

"Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other.“Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297 ...)

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3 ...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname ...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit ...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden ...

Also, as noted above, the Declaration of Independence said: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal....."

That means that unless the Constitution specifically says that the US-born children of foreigners are NOT entitled to become president, they are created equal with the US-born children of US citizens. And the Constitution does not specifically, or in any way, say that the US-born children of foreigners are not entitled to become president.

You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173865 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>"your"? <snickers>
Jercque would be so proud of you
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173866 Oct 4, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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And everyone born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is subject to its jurisdiction. As one of the key writers of the 14th Amendment, Bingham, said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
That is why with the exception of a few birther lawyers and other nuts, all the legal scholars and appeals courts agree with Bingham that every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats is a Natural Born US Citizen.
Some examples:
"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
"Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other.“Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297 ...)
More reading on the subject:
http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3 ...
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname ...
http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit ...
http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden ...
Also, as noted above, the Declaration of Independence said: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal....."
That means that unless the Constitution specifically says that the US-born children of foreigners are NOT entitled to become president, they are created equal with the US-born children of US citizens. And the Constitution does not specifically, or in any way, say that the US-born children of foreigners are not entitled to become president.
You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president.
LMAO!!! Only citizens are subject to the jurisdiction, thereof, Obama at the moment of birth was a citizen of his father's country.
Now you say that he is a dual-citizen, if that be true then he would be on the same level as naturalized citizen, too much foreign influence, not eligible to be POTUS.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173867 Oct 4, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! You're the nut! Anyone that believes that the USSC can overrule the US Constitution doesn't belong on this thread.
Neither the US Supreme Court nor Congress nor the President can overrule the US Constitution.

BUT the US Supreme Court, not you, is the final decision maker on what the US Constitution means. And, not only is it the final decision maker, it is far more qualified than YOU, FAR more. The US Supreme Court's decision is not only the final legal decision barring a constitutional amendment (which isn't likely), it is the right decision. It is correct on the meaning. YOU are wrong.

The US Supreme Court ruled in the Wong Kim Ark case, as Bingham one of the KEY writers of the 14th Amendment had said:

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

That is why all the real constitutional scholars (not counting a few birther lawyers and lots of birther nuts) agree that the meaning of Natural Born Citizen includes every child born in the USA except for the children of foreign diplomats. Some examples:

"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3 ...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname ...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit ...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden ...

You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president.

Also, the Declaration of Independence said: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal....."

That means that unless the Constitution specifically says that the US-born children of foreigners are NOT equal, NOT entitled to become president, they are created equal with the US-born children of US citizens. And hence they are just as able as the US-born children of US citizens to become president. And the Constitution does not specifically, or in any way, say that the US-born children of foreigners are not entitled to become president.

You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the either the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. Not a word.

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