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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173794 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
Declaration of Independence.
Life, liberty, and the **pursuit of happiness**. Right from Natural Law.
Of course most birfoons have no clue where "pursuit of happiness" came from.
“[Per]plexed the law of nature with a multitude of abftracted rules and precepts,
referring merely to the fitnefs or unfitnefs of things, is fome have vainly furmifed;
but has gracioufly reduced the rule of obedience to this one paternal precept,“that man
fhould 'purfue his own happinefs.'”
-Sir William Blackstone
From his "Commentaries on the Laws of England."
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
But I do know that "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" is not in our Constitution!
wojar wrote:
That's news?

Who said it was?

You have a point?
And the empty-headed parrot replies:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
That's news?
Who said it was?
You have a point?!?
Need a point Rouge?

It was right in your face.

The fantasy that the Founders distanced this country from English Common Law is pure fiction. They valued English Common Law as it protected the common man from abuses by the government. and they valued Natural Law, much embodied in English Common Law.

Duh!

Got a clue yet?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173795 Oct 3, 2013
Hummm, the lady that was shot was driving what looks to be a very nice car. But because she was black, she was poor?
Whey a cop points a gun at you, stop what you are doing and put your hands in the air and it is very likely you will NOT get shot! Try and run over a cop and there is a good chance you will get shot!!!

Shelia Jackson Lee Suggests Govt Shutdown Drove "Poor" Capital Hill Shooter To Kill
Greg Hengler | Oct 03, 2013

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173796 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Need a point Rouge?
It was right in your face.
The fantasy that the Founders distanced this country from English Common Law is pure fiction. They valued English Common Law as it protected the common man from abuses by the government. and they valued Natural Law, much embodied in English Common Law.
Duh!
Got a clue yet?
No I don't need a point. It is NOT in our Constitution. Ergo, they are not rights!!! Our rights are listed in the Bill of Rights amending our Constitution. You have no right to purse happiness!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173797 Oct 3, 2013
"Ted Cruz faced a barrage of hostile questions Wednesday from angry GOP senators, who lashed the Texas tea party freshman for helping prompt a government shutdown crisis without a strategy to end it."

A Republican with no exit strategy. Does that sound familiar?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-tur...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173799 Oct 3, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
That explains your repetitive dance moves
This coming from the "crawdaddy" king? LMAO!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173800 Oct 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
No I don't need a point. It is NOT in our Constitution. Ergo, they are not rights!!! Our rights are listed in the Bill of Rights amending our Constitution. You have no right to purse happiness!
Huh? The moron asked for a point, and then when the obvious point is bluntly shoved in his face he doesn't "need a point."

Sad.

The right to life is not a right? Pray tell where did Rougie ever get that idea from?

The right to liberty is not a right? Ever hear of the fecking Bill of Rights?

And the inalienable right to pursue happiness was DECLARED BY THE FOUNDERS. Does Rougie think they were on LSD?

Yup, it came from ENGLISH COMMON LAW.

I do have a right to pursue happiness. George, Thomas, and many other founders staked their lives on that right.

Got a clue yet?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Need a point Rouge?
It was right in your face.
The fantasy that the Founders distanced this country from English Common Law is pure fiction. They valued English Common Law as it protected the common man from abuses by the government. and they valued Natural Law, much embodied in English Common Law.
Duh!
Got a clue yet?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173801 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"The Congress shall have Power To ... establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization ...."
What part of "Congress shall have the power to" does Dufus Dale not understand?
<quoted text>
People from CT should remain quiet today!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173802 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"The sole authority to naturalize persons as citizens of the United States is conferred upon the Attorney General."
8 USC § 1421 (a)
Authority is vested in a government which acts through its agents. The Constitution contains the law, but it does not perform any actions as it is a piece of paper, an inanimate object.
Dufus Dale suffers serious intellectual impairment.
<quoted text>
What a dumbazz you are, Twinkerbelle! "As it is a piece of paper"? Really? Really? ID 10T Error

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173803 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
People from CT should remain quiet today!
Play Law justices should remain quiet every day but they are too demented to know better.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173804 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What a dumbazz you are, Twinkerbelle! "As it is a piece of paper"? Really? Really? ID 10T Error
In Play Justice LRS's world, the Constitution is not an inanimate object. He talks to it. Remarkably, it talks back to him.

His therapist is not amused.

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Insofar as naturalization is concerned, it is "We the People" who make citizens from immigrants, not the Constitution, which is literally a piece of paper, like it or not.

On the other hand, it is Nature that make citizens (and persons) as recognized by "We the People" and declared in our Constitution.

The Constitution (as it is currently written) cannot create a natural born citizen any more than it can create a person. Both are recognized by the Constitution, however.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
"The sole authority to naturalize persons as citizens of the United States is conferred upon the Attorney General."
8 USC § 1421 (a)
Authority is vested in a government which acts through its agents. The Constitution contains the law, but it does not perform any actions as it is a piece of paper, an inanimate object.
Dufus Dale suffers serious intellectual impairment.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173805 Oct 3, 2013
On the other hand, it is Nature that makes natural born citizens (and persons) as recognized by "We the People" and declared in our Constitution.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173806 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Play Law justices should remain quiet every day but they are too demented to know better.
The lil pollock speaketh! Pfft.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173807 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
On the other hand, it is Nature that makes natural born citizens (and persons) as recognized by "We the People" and declared in our Constitution.
You're an idiot, Twinkerbelle. You and Ellen are neck and neck, who's gonna win that crown! LMAO!
wojar

Wallingford, CT

#173808 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're an idiot, Twinkerbelle. You and Ellen are neck and neck, who's gonna win that crown! LMAO!
Pray tell, how does the Constitution create a person? And a natural born citizen is similarly not created by the Constitution but rather RECOGNIZED. Duh!
Play law sucks.
wojar wrote:
On the other hand, it is Nature that makes natural born citizens (and persons) as recognized by "We the People" and declared in our Constitution.
wojar

Wallingford, CT

#173809 Oct 3, 2013
Here's the kicker. The Constitution can create one kind of 'person': a corporation.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173810 Oct 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Did you say the same thing when Tip O'Neal shut down the government a dozen times when Reagan was president? It is O'Bummer Boy who will not negotiate even one iota whereas Bill Clinton negotiated with Newt Gingrich.
O'Bummer is a spoiled brat who demands he get his way.

Did Speaker Bonehead? Waz da matta, cat got yo tongue.
Several Tepublican reps did. They kept their promise. Why are they ashamed?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173811 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>This coming from the "crawdaddy" king? LMAO!
Poor Romper. Still arguing with yourself?
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173812 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Frank, Obama didn't illegally pass the bill. He signed it. he's the PRESIDENT.
BTW, Frank, the ACA has been upheld by the Supreme Court, so claiming it is invalid will not fly.
Ignoring the Republicans? There's nothing to negotiate. The ACA is not a bill that is being debated before passage. It is the law. It has been the law for three years. It was affirmed by the Supreme Court and the American voters rejected the man who vowed to repeal it. Over forty repeal attempts have failed in Congress. It's time for the Tea Baggers to grow up and get over their infantile tantrum.
<quoted text>
When Obama ran for office in 2008 he promised he would never sign a bill that did not have bipartisan support. Not one Republican voted for ObamaKare, and eighty of the Democrats that voted for ObamaKare were voted out of office either before ObamKare was pushed trough illegally during holiday break or during the next election. Polls show between 55% and 78% of United States citizens do not want ObamaKare and many of those that claim thy like ObamKare,including members of Congress are just saying they like it because they love Obama and don't want to let him accept the failure that he believes to be his only achievement.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173813 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
Ever since 1790 it has been required that prior to naturalization in the US that aliens must be "under the jurisdiction" of the United States for a period of years. That means they had to be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States before they could be citizens.
Play Law cannot change that fact.
Barack Hussein Obama's father never immigrated to the United States and was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173815 Oct 3, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
The last time I checked your name Frank was not written on any of the 76,000 pages in the Tax Code.
Which means you are not represented in Congress like AT&T, Exxon/Mobil, and the Koch Brothers.
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Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else
http://tinyurl.com/3ptn5qm / May 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ́the de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/181339-1
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The Rich Get Richer, and They Have You to Thank, Says David Cay Johnston / Nov 19, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/ppa7j3v
The rich, thanks to government handouts, are getting richer at everyone else's expense. At least that's what David Cay Johnston claims in the book Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You with the Bill)
"This enormous growth of incomes at the top is not the result of market forces -- there's some market forces -- but it's largely the result of all these rules nobody knows about," he tells Dan and Aaron in this clip.
The problem starts with government subsidies, says Johnston, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. States are spending around $70 billion on government subsidies, he estimates. That doesn't include the hundreds of billions more doled out in federal subsidies.
"Is that capitalism?," he complains. "Go compete in a competitive arena. Don't go to Washington and say 'give me money' either by saying 'I don't have to pay taxes' or forcing other people to pay taxes that go to me. Go earn your money in the marketplace."
http://moneybob.com/2010/11/21/david-cay-john...
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The richest get richer
March 15, 2012 / http://tinyurl.com/7rwexnb
The aftermaths of the Great Recession and the Great Depression produced sharply different changes in U.S. incomes that tell us a lot about tax and economic policy.
The 1934 economic rebound was widely shared, with strong income gains for the vast majority, the bottom 90 percent.
In 2010, we saw the opposite as the vast majority lost ground.
National income gained overall in 2010, but all of the gains were among the top 10 percent. Even within those 15.6 million households, the gains were extraordinarily concentrated among the super-rich, the top one percent of the top one percent.
Just 15,600 super-rich households pocketed an astonishing 37 percent of the entire national gain.
The different results in 1934 and 2010 show how a major shift in federal policy hurts the vast majority and benefits the super-rich.
http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-johnston/2...
Every voter in the United States is represented in Congress by their elected Senator or Representative...unless that member of Congress is a Republican,then Harry Reid and The President ignore them and pretend that their vote doesn't count. That is tyranny.

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