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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#173838 Oct 4, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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And the Supreme Court was right about the Dred Scott Decision?
I will give you a little free advice about the Supreme Court BUT you will reject it.

FOR THE MOST PART, they are the protectors of the top 0.1% of the 'Powers That Be'.......

.... PERIOD.

Sincerely,

Congress
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173839 Oct 4, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Barack Hussein Obama's father never immigrated to the United States and was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day.
Which has absolutely no effect whatever. Every child born on US soil is a Natural Born US Citizen except for the children of foreign diplomats. Every child, every child regardless of the citizenship of the parents at the time of birth.

"Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.”---Senator Lindsay Graham (December 11, 2008 letter to constituents)

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.”(Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)--Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

"Some birthers imagine that there is a difference between being a “citizen by birth” or a “native citizen” on the one hand and a “natural born” citizen on the other.“Eccentric” is too kind a word for this notion, which is either daft or dishonest. All three terms are identical in meaning."---The Wall Street Journal ( http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297 ...)

More reading on the subject:

http://www.fredthompsonsamerica.com/2012/07/3 ...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyiname ...

http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obama ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-cit ...

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_eviden ...

Also, as noted above, the Declaration of Independence said: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal....."

That means that unless the Constitution specifically says that the US-born children of foreigners are NOT entitled to become president, they are created equal with the US-born children of US citizens. And the Constitution does not specifically, or in any way, say that the US-born children of foreigners are not entitled to become president.

You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

Re: "And the Supreme Court was right about the Dred Scott Decision? "

Answer: All human institutions and people make mistakes. The ultimate decision-maker on the US Constitution is a constitutional amendment, which requires a two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress and a three-quarters vote of the state legislatures. Until that comes along, the decision of the US Supreme Court is the final legal interpretation.

A reversal of the US Supreme Court ruling by a Constitutional Amendment or by the court reversing itself is far from likely in the immediate future (or even in the distant future), since so many legal scholars and appeals courts support what the Wong Kim Ark ruling said, and since the Declaration of Independence says that all men are created equal (and if the writers of the US Constitution had intended to make an exception to that, they surely would have told us).
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#173840 Oct 4, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Number One: Walmart is a Republican owned establishment with slave labor wages.
Number Two: Costco is owned by a Democratic proprietor which gives a living wage, excellent benefits, Health, Dental, etc. etc. etc.
ROTFL
Rush Limbaugh Lies and you continue to believe.
- There are 12 Costco locations within 30 miles of downtown Chicago. The average income across all 12 zip codes is $63,500 per person, per year. An average of 71% of the people who live in the zip codes are white while just 8% are black and 18.5% are Hispanic or Latino.

- There are 13 Sams Club locations in the same radius. The average income across those 13 zip codes was a third of Costco zip codes, just $26,200 per person, per year. In addition, three times as many black people and 38% more Hispanics live in Sams Club zip codes.

The comparison is more striking when examining Wal Mart zip codes:

There are 11 Wal Mart Supercenters or free standing, full service retail stores within 30 miles of downtown Chicago. The average income per person, per year in these zip codes is just $19,000. About 55% of residents of these zip codes are white, 26% black and 25% Hispanic. Also striking is that nearly 40% of people in Wal Mart zip codes rent rather than own their living space, suggesting an overall lower standard of living.

Walmart's zip code income stats are about to go lower. There are two Chicago super-centers planned to open this year. One will be in Hermosa, just west of Logan Square and another in the Pullman community. Once these open, the per person income averages I described above will plunge lower.

Also, worth noting is that I excluded Walmart Markets from the equation. These smaller mini marts occupy some of the poorest zip codes in Chicago including West Englewood. Two more are planned to open in Little Village and Back of the Yards this year. If included, these neighborhood markets would have also driven Walmart shoppers average income numbers much lower.

Whatever you think about Walmart and its practices, at least they don't have a corporate plan built around excluding low income communities and minorities from their establishments. If Costco dared to open more than one store in a lower income Chicagoland community, their entire local business model would implode within a year.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173841 Oct 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Joining Dufus in Delusionlsnd again? Well, they don't call you kissin cousins for nothin
Try as you may, you'll never live down being a coward. That big yellow stripe can be seen for miles and miles! LMAO! lil raggy

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#173842 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're an idiot, Twinkerbelle. You and Ellen are neck and neck, who's gonna win that crown! LMAO!
All out of ammo the Play Justice hurls insults.

The Constitution creates nether natural born citizens nor persons. Both are created by nature:“UPON thefe two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws;”-Sir William Blackstone
wojar wrote:
On the other hand, it is Nature that makes natural born citizens (and persons) as recognized by "We the People" and declared in our Constitution.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#173843 Oct 4, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Barack Hussein Obama's father never immigrated to the United States and was never a citizen of the United States,not even for one day.
Relax Frank, Barack Hussein Obama II's fahter will never run for President.
wojar wrote:
Ever since 1790 it has been required that prior to naturalization in the US that aliens must be "under the jurisdiction" of the United States for a period of years. That means they had to be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States before they could be citizens.
Play Law cannot change that fact.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173844 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Try as you may, you'll never live down being a coward. That big yellow stripe can be seen for miles and miles! LMAO! lil raggy
Poor delusional Romper. I've come to accept the fact that you're obsessed with me. That doesn't make it any less pathetic

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#173845 Oct 4, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>When Obama ran for office in 2008 he promised he would never sign a bill that did not have bipartisan support. Not one Republican voted for ObamaKare, and eighty of the Democrats that voted for ObamaKare were voted out of office either before ObamKare was pushed trough illegally during holiday break or during the next election. Polls show between 55% and 78% of United States citizens do not want ObamaKare and many of those that claim thy like ObamKare,including members of Congress are just saying they like it because they love Obama and don't want to let him accept the failure that he believes to be his only achievement.
Boo hoo, Frank. Did he also promise your grandchildren ice cream every day? The ACA was passed by House and Senate and signed by the President. Like it or not, IT IS THE LAW.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Frank, Obama didn't illegally pass the bill. He signed it. he's the PRESIDENT.
BTW, Frank, the ACA has been upheld by the Supreme Court, so claiming it is invalid will not fly.
Ignoring the Republicans? There's nothing to negotiate. The ACA is not a bill that is being debated before passage. It is the law. It has been the law for three years. It was affirmed by the Supreme Court and the American voters rejected the man who vowed to repeal it. Over forty repeal attempts have failed in Congress. It's time for the Tea Baggers to grow up and get over their infantile tantrum.
<quoted text>

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#173846 Oct 4, 2013
And the ACA also upheld by USSC. Sorry if your grandkids didn't get ice cream every day.
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#173847 Oct 4, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
<quoted text>
- There are 12 Costco locations within 30 miles of downtown Chicago. The average income across all 12 zip codes is $63,500 per person, per year. An average of 71% of the people who live in the zip codes are white while just 8% are black and 18.5% are Hispanic or Latino.
- There are 13 Sams Club locations in the same radius. The average income across those 13 zip codes was a third of Costco zip codes, just $26,200 per person, per year. In addition, three times as many black people and 38% more Hispanics live in Sams Club zip codes.
The comparison is more striking when examining Wal Mart zip codes:
There are 11 Wal Mart Supercenters or free standing, full service retail stores within 30 miles of downtown Chicago. The average income per person, per year in these zip codes is just $19,000. About 55% of residents of these zip codes are white, 26% black and 25% Hispanic. Also striking is that nearly 40% of people in Wal Mart zip codes rent rather than own their living space, suggesting an overall lower standard of living.
Walmart's zip code income stats are about to go lower. There are two Chicago super-centers planned to open this year. One will be in Hermosa, just west of Logan Square and another in the Pullman community. Once these open, the per person income averages I described above will plunge lower.
Also, worth noting is that I excluded Walmart Markets from the equation. These smaller mini marts occupy some of the poorest zip codes in Chicago including West Englewood. Two more are planned to open in Little Village and Back of the Yards this year. If included, these neighborhood markets would have also driven Walmart shoppers average income numbers much lower.
Whatever you think about Walmart and its practices, at least they don't have a corporate plan built around excluding low income communities and minorities from their establishments. If Costco dared to open more than one store in a lower income Chicagoland community, their entire local business model would implode within a year.
Brian Matos, communications director for the Chicago Young Republicans,

http://www.chicagonow.com/windy-city-young-re...
Therealnews com

Oakdale, NY

#173848 Oct 4, 2013
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Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#173849 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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You're an idiot, Twinkerbelle. You and Ellen are neck and neck, who's gonna win that crown! LMAO!
Now why do you end almost every post LMAO??? Is it because that is the only thing you are capable typing?????
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173850 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
All out of ammo the Play Justice hurls insults.
The Constitution creates nether natural born citizens nor persons. Both are created by nature:“UPON thefe two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws;”-Sir William Blackstone
<quoted text>
In those famous words of Conebread, "you're still an idiot"! You were born an idiot and shall die an idiot. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173851 Oct 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor delusional Romper. I've come to accept the fact that you're obsessed with me. That doesn't make it any less pathetic
Already starting to do the crawdaddy, huh? So early? LMAO! My guess would be, there isn't a single person alive that is obsessed with you, other than you, that is!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173852 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Boo hoo, Frank. Did he also promise your grandchildren ice cream every day? The ACA was passed by House and Senate and signed by the President. Like it or not, IT IS THE LAW.
<quoted text>
Like it or not, Obobblehead is a liar. Why do you support a known liar, Twinkerbelle? LMAO! lil raggy
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173853 Oct 4, 2013
nebka wrote:
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Now why do you end almost every post LMAO??? Is it because that is the only thing you are capable typing?????
Hey Nebka, go back to blowing your brother, otay? lil raggy

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#173854 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
In those famous words of Conebread, "you're still an idiot"! You were born an idiot and shall die an idiot. LMAO!
And the feeble-minded Play Justice still cannot muster a rebuttal.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
All out of ammo the Play Justice hurls insults.
The Constitution creates nether natural born citizens nor persons. Both are created by nature:“UPON thefe two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws;”-Sir William Blackstone
<quoted text>
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173855 Oct 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
And the ACA also upheld by USSC. Sorry if your grandkids didn't get ice cream every day.
Only after Roberts was bought off! Why do you constantly leave out the important information? LMAO! lil raggy

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#173856 Oct 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Nebka, go back to blowing your brother, otay? lil raggy
There he goes again, so obsessed, projecting his repressed proclivities.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173857 Oct 4, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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YOU are a nut. The courts are right, and you are wrong. Bingham is right and you are wrong. The Heritage Foundation book is right, and you are wrong, the members of the Electoral College (not one of whom changed her or his vote to vote against Obama either in the 2008 or 2012 elections) is right and you are wrong. The US Supreme Court is right, and you are wrong. The US Congress, which confirmed Obama's election unanimously both times, is right, and you are wrong. The Chief Justice of the USA, who swore Obama in several times after each election, is right, and you are wrong.
And, most importantly of all, you cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there, and there is not a single word in the Constitution (or for that matter in the writings of ANY of the members of the Constitutional Convention) that says that two citizen parents are required in order to be eligible to be president of the USA. Not a word.
LMAO!!! You're the nut! Anyone that believes that the USSC can overrule the US Constitution doesn't belong on this thread.

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