BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
wojar

Wilbraham, MA

#173651 Oct 2, 2013
Joe OBiden wrote:
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>Of course 91% tax on the wealthy was too much and below 70% was the right thing at that time.
Unfortunately average Americans are always getting stuck paying the bills and the top 1% percentile find the loopholes the Congress passed for them.
Why is the tax code over 76,000 pages long?
Answer: Because both corrupt parties benefit their corporate masters at the expense of average Americans.
You will never hear this from corrupt corporate owned Mainstream media or corrupt corporate owned Rightwing media.
Loopholes, Loopholes, and more Loopholes.
The recent Sequester proves that: Hollywood & NASCAR benefited while working American taxes got taken out with FICA.
Why did Hollywood and NASCAR have to benefit from this?
Scam, Scam, and more Scams.
<quoted text>
It is the poor that are not paying their fair share of the taxes. There should be a tax of one thousand dollars per person per year. If you do not pay the tax, they should take away everything you own to include your Obama phone.
So the lady next door in a wheelchair with a progressive disease should lose her home? She was beautiful when she was young but struck by disease in her prime.
UR an idiot.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173652 Oct 2, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Everyone knows an alien isn't a subject of nor subject to the US Constitution and we all know Jr. was born a citizen of his father's country, since Sr. wasn't a citizen of the US, just a fact that you can't argue with.


You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173653 Oct 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
10-year olds during recess? Got something to confess, you weird lil kid?
BTW, you blow chunks.
I'm not the pervert reciting juvenile taunts projecting his proclivities.

Duh!

You need help.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you learn that taunt while watching local 10-year olds during recess?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173655 Oct 2, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>FROM THAT SAME BOOK Jesus said "For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always."
Mark 14:7 KJV
Unable To get straight answers from my political leaders I turn to the public forum to submit my questions.
1. Why do respected patriots Alan Keyes, Pat Boone, Donald Trump and Sheriff Joe Arpaio question the birthplace and citizenship of their President?
2. Why would the President be less than forthcoming in this matter?
3. Exactly when was it made legal for the son of a foreigner to become President of the United States?
My contention is a crafty worldwide fraternity put this mystery-man in office to further their global agenda.
1. They are not "respected Patriots".
2. He has been more than forthcoming. His birth facts on his BC have been published.
3. When? 1776.

BTW, Trump crossed his fingers when he said he didn't go to Vietnam because of a high draft number. He had a deferment.
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
How was Jesus not a socialist?
Got scripture to back up your Jesus quote? Because I am pretty sure he didn't say... "Help the poor, if you feel like it."
For someone sitting on theological logic, you know little about your book.
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173656 Oct 2, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Why do respected patriots Alan Keyes, Pat Boone, Donald Trump and Sheriff Joe Arpaio question the birthplace and citizenship of their President?
Why do alleged patriots question the birthplace and citizenship of their President despite mountains of evidence proving his US birth beyond reasonable doubt and diddly squat supporting foreign birth fantasies?

RU serious?

If "yes", do you really think you're sane?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173657 Oct 2, 2013
Keyes had a deferment too. And Pat Boone really knew how to talk the talk.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173659 Oct 2, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
See numerous world conflicts. See the word "family". Contemplate
Look up "evading". So your family has seen what every other American family has seen. Yet, you make it sound as if "your" family was more affected. Why?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173660 Oct 2, 2013
Dale wrote:
Aliens/Illegal aliens are not taxed by the US Constitution, therefore they aren't subjects of or "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof", this is a condition that only a citizen can enjoy.
Yep, all children born in this country of aliens automatically receive the citizenship of their father's country of origin, just a fact that can't be debated.
Oh my, there goes the anchor babies!!!
Both legal and illegal aliens, and in fact everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) ARE in fact taxed under the US Constitution. Everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.

You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

Regardless of the nuts Sheriff Joe and Donald Trump, etc., Obama's birth in Hawaii has been shown overwhelmingly, and birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days. Yet they would like gullible people to simply assume that she was one of the very very few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii who have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and the long form to Obama and that all the facts on the copy that the White House put online are exactly the same as on what they sent to him are lying.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173661 Oct 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not the pervert reciting juvenile taunts projecting his proclivities.
Duh!
You need help.
<quoted text>
"You" brought it up, dipshyt! LMAO!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173662 Oct 2, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Both legal and illegal aliens, and in fact everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) ARE in fact taxed under the US Constitution. Everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
Regardless of the nuts Sheriff Joe and Donald Trump, etc., Obama's birth in Hawaii has been shown overwhelmingly, and birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days. Yet they would like gullible people to simply assume that she was one of the very very few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii who have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and the long form to Obama and that all the facts on the copy that the White House put online are exactly the same as on what they sent to him are lying.
Nice job Ellen. Also the First Congress enacted the first naturalization law which REQUIRED aliens to be "under the jurisdiction" of the US for two years before they could be naturalized.

The USSC (and other courts) have recognized that "under the jurisdiction of the US and "subject to the jurisdiction of" the US are one and the same.

Thus Dufus Dale's fantasy that aliens cannot be "subject to the jurisdiction of the Constitution" is total bull twinky.

However, you cannot argue successfully with a madman if you hope to persuade him. All you can do is make a fool of him, as you have done.

The madman cannot accept reality. Otherwise he wouldn't be mad.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173663 Oct 2, 2013
Discover Obobblehead for yourself.

http://archive.org/details/ObamaRecordsDisapp...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173664 Oct 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Look up "evading". So your family has seen what every other American family has seen. Yet, you make it sound as if "your" family was more affected. Why?
No. I said my family has experienced they turmoil and folly of foreign policy based on religion and that I would like to see the US learn to separate the two .

First you assumed that this meant I wasn't American. As if Americans are unaffected by foolish policies?

Now you assume that I'm claiming my family had suffered more than any other

You seem determined to prove that you are the most ignorant poster on this thread. Why?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173665 Oct 2, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>
My contention is a crafty worldwide fraternity put this mystery-man in office to further their global agenda.
Chesterton explained exactly why it's of no use trying to persuade a madman to give up his delusions.

You're a prime example.

"If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it; for in many ways his mind moves all the quicker for not being delayed by things that go with good judgment. He is not hampered by a sense of humour or by clarity, or by the dumb certainties of experience. He is the more logical for losing certain sane affections. Indeed, the common phrase for insanity is in this respect a misleading one. The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason."

Sadly, the madman will read the quotation above and think it applies to the sane.(Which proves Chesterton's point.)
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
How was Jesus not a socialist?
Got scripture to back up your Jesus quote? Because I am pretty sure he didn't say... "Help the poor, if you feel like it."
For someone sitting on theological logic, you know little about your book.
Mark 10:21-22 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173666 Oct 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>His policies have been centrist. Talking heads like GB and Windbaugh don't make it so [radical agenda] by screaming Alinsky, Coward, Piven, and playing degrees of separation games. The insurance mandate model was proposed by that radical left wing fringe group, The Heritage Foundation.
What is centrist about ignoring Republicans? What is centrist about illegally passing the ObamaKare bill through reconciliation and without a single Republican vote? What is centrist about using Executive Orders to pass radical left wing agenda? What is centrist about telling lies? What is centrist about telling 87% of the population they have to sacrifice in order to support one half of one percent of the country?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173669 Oct 2, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
King: 30 to 40 GOP Lawmakers Refuse to Admit Legitimacy of Obama’s Presidency.
Hmmm...
And Tacky thinks that proves something. What somebody says about a small minority of reps.

Loser. The facts prove otherwise.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173670 Oct 2, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW, I am in agreement with this post.
How sad that Obama beats Romney in the election and then implements Romneycare in 49 other States just like Massachusetts.
The Democrats are the new Republican party and the Republican party are all Extremist Fascist Authoritarians.
The Republican party of today even despises the Rightwing Supreme Court which ruled Obamacare/Romneycare Constitutional.
----------
Former Top Judge Says US Risks Edging Near to Dictatorship
· Sandra Day O'Connor warns of rightwing attacks
· Lawyers 'must speak up' to protect judiciary
http://tinyurl.com/24l3fb / March 13, 2006
Sandra Day O'Connor, a Republican-appointed judge who retired last month after 24 years on the supreme court, has said the US is in danger of edging towards dictatorship if the party's rightwingers continue to attack the judiciary.
In a strongly worded speech at Georgetown University, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, Ms O'Connor took aim at Republican leaders whose repeated denunciations of the courts for alleged liberal bias could, she said, be contributing to a climate of violence against judges.
Ms O'Connor, nominated by Ronald Reagan as the first woman supreme court justice, declared: "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary."
She pointed to autocracies in the developing world and former Communist countries as lessons on where interference with the judiciary might lead. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom", and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up.
She noted death threats against judges were on the rise and added that the situation was not helped by a senior senator's suggestion that there might be a connection between the violence against judges and the decisions they make.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi...
ObamaKare is not the state health care program adopted by Massachusetts,not even close. Every state adopted state health care programs,but none was over 2700 pages or over fifty taxes. ObamaKare was basically Hillary Kare with a lot of additional taxes and requirement like taking dollars from our citizens to send to people three thousand miles away.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173671 Oct 2, 2013
Pdamerica org wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course 91% tax on the wealthy was too much and below 70% was the right thing at that time.
Unfortunately average Americans are always getting stuck paying the bills and the top 1% percentile find the loopholes the Congress passed for them.
Why is the tax code over 76,000 pages long?
Answer: Because both corrupt parties benefit their corporate masters at the expense of average Americans.
You will never hear this from corrupt corporate owned Mainstream media or corrupt corporate owned Rightwing media.
Loopholes, Loopholes, and more Loopholes.
The recent Sequester proves that: Hollywood & NASCAR benefited while working American taxes got taken out with FICA.
Why did Hollywood and NASCAR have to benefit from this?
Scam, Scam, and more Scams.
Are you referring to the richest ten percent that already pay 80% of the taxes or the top fifty percent that pay 95% of the taxes?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173672 Oct 2, 2013
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173673 Oct 2, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Both legal and illegal aliens, and in fact everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) ARE in fact taxed under the US Constitution. Everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
Regardless of the nuts Sheriff Joe and Donald Trump, etc., Obama's birth in Hawaii has been shown overwhelmingly, and birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days. Yet they would like gullible people to simply assume that she was one of the very very few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii who have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and the long form to Obama and that all the facts on the copy that the White House put online are exactly the same as on what they sent to him are lying.
Who pays you to post this stupid crap?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173674 Oct 2, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
No. I said my family has experienced they turmoil and folly of foreign policy based on religion and that I would like to see the US learn to separate the two .
First you assumed that this meant I wasn't American. As if Americans are unaffected by foolish policies?
Now you assume that I'm claiming my family had suffered more than any other
You seem determined to prove that you are the most ignorant poster on this thread. Why?
Look at your original post! I'm not claiming anything, just wondering what you meant by it. Bit touchy, are we?

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