BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173675 Oct 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Chesterton explained exactly why it's of no use trying to persuade a madman to give up his delusions.
You're a prime example.
"If you argue with a madman, it is extremely probable that you will get the worst of it; for in many ways his mind moves all the quicker for not being delayed by things that go with good judgment. He is not hampered by a sense of humour or by clarity, or by the dumb certainties of experience. He is the more logical for losing certain sane affections. Indeed, the common phrase for insanity is in this respect a misleading one. The madman is not the man who has lost his reason. The madman is the man who has lost everything except his reason."
Sadly, the madman will read the quotation above and think it applies to the sane.(Which proves Chesterton's point.)
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Then Chesterton proved himself to mad. Brilliant. Just brilliant!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173676 Oct 2, 2013
to *be mad
James Conway

East Pharsalia, NY

#173679 Oct 2, 2013
I found this video about Obama. It's called "PROOF THAT BARACK OBAMA IS A MURDERER!!!!" Think it's real?

http://youtu.be/4jP5e-v1D78

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173680 Oct 2, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>FROM THAT SAME BOOK Jesus said "For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always."
Mark 14:7 KJV
Unable To get straight answers from my political leaders I turn to the public forum to submit my questions.
1. Why do respected patriots Alan Keyes, Pat Boone, Donald Trump and Sheriff Joe Arpaio question the birthplace and citizenship of their President?
2. Why would the President be less than forthcoming in this matter?
3. Exactly when was it made legal for the son of a foreigner to become President of the United States?
My contention is a crafty worldwide fraternity put this mystery-man in office to further their global agenda.
He was saying ...you will always have the poor, but you won't always have me.

Not exactly Jesus' thoughts on how people should be treated... more of a "Time is of the essence."

Jesus was a socialist. You are going to lose that one.

Wojar pretty much knocked the rest out of the park.

1. None of those people are respected patriots. They are filthy rich republicans who are bitter that they keep getting outgunned. I don't believe it for a second. If Trump REALLY believed it, he could use his influence to at least get a foot in the door of the legal system. But... Trump isn't dumb, he knows you need real evidence for that. He is very aware that he holds the short end of the stick.

2. He has been more accommodating than I would have. I have yet to find a birther that can provide evidence that he is from Kenya. NONE of them can explain the newspaper announcements. Can you? Maybe if you guys had something more than a piece of an interview with grandma and a twenty year old pamphlet.

3. 1776

What exactly is "their global agenda?"

..and if you start spewing some shit about the Illuminati's Reptilian Bloodline... I will never let you live it down.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173682 Oct 2, 2013
James Conway wrote:
I found this video about Obama. It's called "PROOF THAT BARACK OBAMA IS A MURDERER!!!!" Think it's real?
http://youtu.be/4jP5e-v1D78
3 views.

I am going to go with.... no.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173683 Oct 2, 2013
OMG.

This is why it never gets old...

Mass Dead Bird Speculations

"I think it is a sign of the apocalypse. God killed those birds as a sign he is angry with us and the end of the world is imminent. Or it could just be weather related."- Matthew.
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#173684 Oct 3, 2013
The government needed a break.

What does O Reilly know about
Jesus? He lives in his own
fantasy world. How about killing
O Reilly as a title for a book
instead of killing Jesus?
No one can stand him.
He won't give up his riches
to go to heaven?
He is clueless. Stone.
Republican?

Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#173685 Oct 3, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
OMG.
This is why it never gets old...
Mass Dead Bird Speculations
"I think it is a sign of the apocalypse. God killed those birds as a sign he is angry with us and the end of the world is imminent. Or it could just be weather related."- Matthew.
Cielito lindo
Forum

Carlsbad, NM

#173686 Oct 3, 2013
Canta y no llores
Porque cantando se
alegra Cielito lindo
los corazones.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173687 Oct 3, 2013
This letter brings up my point is that the IPCC is using Voodoo Science. There are to ways in investigate an hypothesis . One is Subjective and the other Objective. The IPCC does not test their hypothesis that Global Warming is caused by mankind, the test to prove it is caused my mankind. To Libtards, mankind is the root of all evil ....... unless the Libtards are doing it.


LETTERS October 2, 2013, 4:17 p.m. ET
What Did You Expect The IPCC to Find?
The IPCC's mission assumes from the get-go that anthropogenic global warming is a fact.

Regarding Donna Laframboise's "Warming Up for Another Climate-Change Report" (op-ed, Sept. 25): It's important to recall the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's original stated purpose. In its own words, its role is to assess the "risk of human-induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation." In other words, the organization's mission assumes from the get-go that anthropogenic global warming is a fact. Typically, you find what you're looking for. As Al Gore points out in his movie "An Inconvenient Truth," Upton Sinclair observed that "it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it."

Anthony J. Sadar
Meteorologist
Pittsburgh
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173688 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
You're easily fooled, aren't you?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173689 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Look at your original post! I'm not claiming anything, just wondering what you meant by it. Bit touchy, are we?
Your inability to comprehend English is not my problem. I meant exactly what I said. I believe the US should remove religious concerns from foreign policy. You disagree?
wojar

Wilbraham, MA

#173691 Oct 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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"You" brought it up, dipshyt! LMAO!
Huh? "You blow chunks" is a mature discourse? What playground did you pick that up from?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173692 Oct 3, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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I understand you all too well Bigot
LMAO!!! Looks like I am coming up in the world, I'm just a bigot now and not a racist!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173693 Oct 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Dufus should also look up the difference between rebuttal and ROFL.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Yep, every time you post it is a ROFL moment!! Keep up the great comedy routine, we do appreciate a good "laff"!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173695 Oct 3, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Precisely, you are right about the "you can't read into the Constitution" part.
You can't read into the Constitution something that is not there, and there is not a single word in the Constitution that bars either the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president.
Not a word. If the writers of the Constitution had meant to bar the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens, they could easily have said so---but they didn't. Not only did they not write it into the Constitution, but none of the members of the Constitutional Convention said so in any of their writings either.
And, BTW, John Jay was an expert in THE COMMON LAW. So, if the had intended to use the term Natural Born Citizen differently than the term Natural Born was used in the common law, he would have said so----and he didn't.
Under both strict construction judicial interpretation and libertarian principles if something is not specifically barred by the Constitution or by law, it is permitted. And there is not a single word in the US Constitution or any law that bars either the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. Not a word.
LMAO!!! What would you call that one little stipulation, "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof"?
As we all know aliens and foreigners are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution.
Why do you keep bringing up Common Law, citizenship hasn't been under Common Law sine 1866/1868.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173696 Oct 3, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
LMAO!!!

1. As I have stated before, "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof". Aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution, so there isn't any such thing as a dual-citizenship.

2. That is right, the 14th Amendment (1868) made sure that aliens born here wouldn't be granted citizenship.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173697 Oct 3, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Both legal and illegal aliens, and in fact everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) ARE in fact taxed under the US Constitution. Everyone in the USA (except for foreign diplomats) is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA.
You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
Regardless of the nuts Sheriff Joe and Donald Trump, etc., Obama's birth in Hawaii has been shown overwhelmingly, and birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961---and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days. Yet they would like gullible people to simply assume that she was one of the very very few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths, and that the birth certificate of Hawaii is forged and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii who have repeatedly confirmed that they sent the short form and the long form to Obama and that all the facts on the copy that the White House put online are exactly the same as on what they sent to him are lying.
LMAO!!! Your post has been answered many time.
As for Obama being born in Hawaii, he could have been born in the Oval Office, he still wouldn't be a US citizen, since aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Wilbraham, MA

#173698 Oct 3, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>What is centrist about ignoring Republicans? What is centrist about illegally passing the ObamaKare bill through reconciliation and without a single Republican vote? What is centrist about using Executive Orders to pass radical left wing agenda? What is centrist about telling lies? What is centrist about telling 87% of the population they have to sacrifice in order to support one half of one percent of the country?
Sorry Frank, Obama didn't illegally pass the bill. He signed it. he's the PRESIDENT.

BTW, Frank, the ACA has been upheld by the Supreme Court, so claiming it is invalid will not fly.

Ignoring the Republicans? There's nothing to negotiate. The ACA is not a bill that is being debated before passage. It is the law. It has been the law for three years. It was affirmed by the Supreme Court and the American voters rejected the man who vowed to repeal it. Over forty repeal attempts have failed in Congress. It's time for the Tea Baggers to grow up and get over their infantile tantrum.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>His policies have been centrist. Talking heads like GB and Windbaugh don't make it so [radical agenda] by screaming Alinsky, Coward, Piven, and playing degrees of separation games. The insurance mandate model was proposed by that radical left wing fringe group, The Heritage Foundation.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Wilbraham, MA

#173699 Oct 3, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!
1. As I have stated before, "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof". Aliens are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution, so there isn't any such thing as a dual-citizenship.
2. That is right, the 14th Amendment (1868) made sure that aliens born here wouldn't be granted citizenship.
"I have stated ...."

Whoop Dee Doo! The little twit has stated a non sequitur and nobody cares.

A declaration that flies in the face of reason that nobody who is anybody gives a crap about.

Yup, that's Dufus Dale!
Ellen1 wrote:
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You cannot read into the Constitution something that is not there. And there isn't a single word IN the Constitution that bars the US-born children of foreigners or dual citizens from becoming president. And, as noted earlier, Bingham also said:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

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