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LINO Liberal In Name Only!
Both are Corporate Centrist Democrats like Obama.
Obviously you have no idea what a true liberal is;
classic liberal
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Classical liberalism is a political ideology that developed in the nineteenth century in Western Europe, and the Americas. It was committed to the ideal of limited government and liberty of individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets....
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Just face it, you are not a liberal. You are a narrow minded Progressive Socialist!

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Ah, you forgot about Obama whose national debt has gone up SIX TRILLION DOLLARS! The National debt on January 2009 was $10.7T and it will shortly go over $17T and you blame ...... BUSH!!!
Of that $10.7 T debt, tell us how many Repub presidents were responsible for it.

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Ah, you forgot about Obama whose national debt has gone up SIX TRILLION DOLLARS! The National debt on January 2009 was $10.7T and it will shortly go over $17T and you blame ...... BUSH!!!
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Of that $10.7 T debt, tell us how many Repub presidents were responsible for it.
Ah, it took over 200 years for the National Debt to go up $10.7 whereas the National Debt has gone up 58% in just four and a half years. Remember, it was Obama who signed the $3.7T FY 2009 Budget into law. The last Bush budget was just $2.7T!!!

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Oh Jacques, you seem to be very concerned about the several thousand ducks killed in a oil soaked tailing pond but you do not seem to be concerned with over a million birds being chopped up in wind turbines. How come?!? Oh, I know, air is clear and gooey tar is .... BLACK and therefore evil.

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Oh Jacques, you seem to be very concerned about the several thousand ducks killed in a oil soaked tailing pond but you do not seem to be concerned with over a million birds being chopped up in wind turbines. How come?!? Oh, I know, air is clear and gooey tar is .... BLACK and therefore evil.
One : Like they did with glass windows, birds will get used to wind turbines which, as you know, turn very slowly. Give 'em time;

Two : But as I said, I am most concerned with harm done to men and women and their children, and the harm done by tar sands exploitation is permanent - tell us how we will get rid of those tailing ponds. Tell us , do you know how much harm is done to the water table? Tell us, do you know how much water is used in the separation process and how much is non-renewable and how much is renewable only if rainfall is abundant? Tell us about the smokestack pollution from refining. Tell us, tell us.

Yes, the birds will get used to windmills. But no bird, no animal, and, important, sort of, no human being will ever get used to irrepairable pollution.

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Ah, you forgot about Obama whose national debt has gone up SIX TRILLION DOLLARS! The National debt on January 2009 was $10.7T and it will shortly go over $17T and you blame ...... BUSH!!!
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Ah, it took over 200 years for the National Debt to go up $10.7 whereas the National Debt has gone up 58% in just four and a half years. Remember, it was Obama who signed the $3.7T FY 2009 Budget into law. The last Bush budget was just $2.7T!!!
Sure,but no president, except perhaps FDR (from conservative Repub Hoover) received such a parting gift as Obama got from GWB. The edifice was crumbling, falling apart, when Obama took over - already, "gratuities" had been extended to brokers, banks, and Chrysler and GM, foisted onto Obama as GWB's term was catastrophically ending. You trying to tell us that the ensuing budget deficits during Obama's first term were not a consequence of GWB's stewardship? You gonna lay it on Obama's first two years with a Dem majority in Congress again?

Deficit is being whittled down as we speak. And will be further reduced before Obama's term is up. The actual stalling by a few tea party nutballs, led by Canadian-Cuban and perhaps American Ted Cruze is solely to put Obama in his place, where he belongs, with his black kin. They don't like him and will sink the nation just to teach him a lesson. All that for regular spending appropriations? Oh, rogue, stock market's down. More good news.

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Sure,but no president, except perhaps FDR (from conservative Repub Hoover) received such a parting gift as Obama got from GWB. The edifice was crumbling, falling apart, when Obama took over - already, "gratuities" had been extended to brokers, banks, and Chrysler and GM, foisted onto Obama as GWB's term was catastrophically ending. You trying to tell us that the ensuing budget deficits during Obama's first term were not a consequence of GWB's stewardship? You gonna lay it on Obama's first two years with a Dem majority in Congress again?
Deficit is being whittled down as we speak. And will be further reduced before Obama's term is up. The actual stalling by a few tea party nutballs, led by Canadian-Cuban and perhaps American Ted Cruze is solely to put Obama in his place, where he belongs, with his black kin. They don't like him and will sink the nation just to teach him a lesson. All that for regular spending appropriations? Oh, rogue, stock market's down. More good news.
And what gift will Obama leave his replacement?!?
And there you go throwing out the race card. Exactly what is Obama's "black kin"? As if he has no WHITE kin!!! What a racist you are.

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One : Like they did with glass windows, birds will get used to wind turbines which, as you know, turn very slowly. Give 'em time;
Two : But as I said, I am most concerned with harm done to men and women and their children, and the harm done by tar sands exploitation is permanent - tell us how we will get rid of those tailing ponds. Tell us , do you know how much harm is done to the water table? Tell us, do you know how much water is used in the separation process and how much is non-renewable and how much is renewable only if rainfall is abundant? Tell us about the smokestack pollution from refining. Tell us, tell us.
Yes, the birds will get used to windmills. But no bird, no animal, and, important, sort of, no human being will ever get used to irrepairable pollution.
Last I heard glass windows don't go round and round. And how long will it take for Darwin's theory to work on birds avoiding wind turbines.
Oh, you keep forgetting, CO2 is PLANT FOOD. And oxides of sulfur and nitrogen are also plant food.
And the water is recycled. You do know that water is heavier than oil, don't you? Once the heated water is used it is sent to, not a tail pond, but a separation pond and the oil floats to the surface sand skimmed off. The water is then reused. Oh, the true tailings are cleaned sand with is returned to the pits.

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Of that $10.7 T debt, tell us how many Repub presidents were responsible for it.
In the past 100 years, 1908-2008, Republican have presided for 56 years while the Democrats 44 years. In any event, the budget is still controlled by the Speaker of the House and the Democrats and the Republicans have run Congress for only 14 of those years since 1932!!!
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You know, Rogue is a close adherent of everything WND.com and Foxnews.com . He is therefore molded into the distortion of news and cannot help it, it is ingrained in his psyche as he just did for Feinstein and so much other stuff. Another example was his labelling of Carter and Clinton as rednecks, which he probably read in one of his gun magazines. Sigh.
Waa Waa Waa! Feinstein is a certified nutjob who needs to return to the hospital! PTSD is a "new" phenomenon? This lady needs to go back to bed.

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I noticed this several months ago. Obama like it being called Obamacare until a few months ago and since then claims The Affordable Care Act was tagged "Obamacare" by evil Republicans and he has avoid using the term "Obamacare" since.
I guess he can read the polls too. "Obamacare has a negative connotation whereas "The Affordable Care Act" has a positive connotation.

ObamaCare vs. Affordable Care
By USA Today September 30, 2013

A recent CNBC poll found more Americans oppose ObamaCare than oppose the Affordable Care Act. But more Americans support ObamaCare than the Affordable Care Act.
Confused?

That would be understandable given that these are two names for the same law. CNBC polled two different groups, using "ObamaCare" for one and "Affordable Care Act" for the other. Forty-six percent of the group asked about "ObamaCare" opposed it. But only 37% of those asked about the health law opposed it.

Conversely, ObamaCare had higher support than the law. As CNBC put it, Obama's name "raises the positives and the negatives."
http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2013/09/30/oba...

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Last I heard glass windows don't go round and round. And how long will it take for Darwin's theory to work on birds avoiding wind turbines.
Oh, you keep forgetting, CO2 is PLANT FOOD. And oxides of sulfur and nitrogen are also plant food.
And the water is recycled. You do know that water is heavier than oil, don't you? Once the heated water is used it is sent to, not a tail pond, but a separation pond and the oil floats to the surface sand skimmed off. The water is then reused. Oh, the true tailings are cleaned sand with is returned to the pits.
Last I heard, humans don't fly into wind turbines. Last I heard, wind turbines have ZERO effect pollution.

And quit it with the oxides and sulfur being plant food. Do YOU eat and breathe them? What if you do? Good for you as it is for the plants? Don't we have enough of the natural emissions and those from cars and what - not?

And you really believe in that water being recycled? I don't say I believe it or not, but I have my doubts. Those P.R. people are geniuses at lying. You've probably never seen the pro-tar sands ads we get here, how beneficial they are and good for the environment.

Guess they forgot to remove the tailings before the birds flew into them and died instantly. Oh, would you like a member of your family to fall in one of those ponds? What's your preference, have them look at a wind turbine or dive into a tailing pond?

Darwin's theory, as you name it for birds flying into windmills would fully apply to the said birds' evolution, that same evolution that made the birds and their descendants, and genetically too now, not to fly into windows. Oh, a few still do, but are you gonna outlaw windows? Humans never did fly into windows btw.
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<quoted text>One : Like they did with glass windows, birds will get used to wind turbines which, as you know, turn very slowly. Give 'em time;

Two : But as I said, I am most concerned with harm done to men and women and their children, and the harm done by tar sands exploitation is permanent - tell us how we will get rid of those tailing ponds. Tell us , do you know how much harm is done to the water table? Tell us, do you know how much water is used in the separation process and how much is non-renewable and how much is renewable only if rainfall is abundant? Tell us about the smokestack pollution from refining. Tell us, tell us.

Yes, the birds will get used to windmills. But no bird, no animal, and, important, sort of, no human being will ever get used to irrepairable pollution.
Actually the tip of a modern, efficient 3 blade turbine will generally be traveling at approx 6 x the speed of the wind - their size makes them appear to be moving much more slowly.

Even a 15 MPH breeze will produce tip speeds in excess of 90 mph -

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In the past 100 years, 1908-2008, Republican have presided for 56 years while the Democrats 44 years. In any event, the budget is still controlled by the Speaker of the House and the Democrats and the Republicans have run Congress for only 14 of those years since 1932!!!
Who was the speaker of the house for the 6 of 8 years that GWB was in charge? And you really think that the economic debacle that began in the fall - winter of 2007-08 was Pelosi's fault, she who had served as speaker of the house less than a year? Ultimately, though, the president is responsible for surpluses AND deficits. Who was the last Repub president to show a surplus in the 20th century? Perhaps by the time I come back from L.A., you'll have found one. Hmmm, NOT.
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Last I heard, humans don't fly into wind turbines. Last I heard, wind turbines have ZERO effect pollution.
And quit it with the oxides and sulfur being plant food. Do YOU eat and breathe them? What if you do? Good for you as it is for the plants? Don't we have enough of the natural emissions and those from cars and what - not?
And you really believe in that water being recycled? I don't say I believe it or not, but I have my doubts. Those P.R. people are geniuses at lying. You've probably never seen the pro-tar sands ads we get here, how beneficial they are and good for the environment.
Guess they forgot to remove the tailings before the birds flew into them and died instantly. Oh, would you like a member of your family to fall in one of those ponds? What's your preference, have them look at a wind turbine or dive into a tailing pond?
Darwin's theory, as you name it for birds flying into windmills would fully apply to the said birds' evolution, that same evolution that made the birds and their descendants, and genetically too now, not to fly into windows. Oh, a few still do, but are you gonna outlaw windows? Humans never did fly into windows btw.
Why waste the time posting this?

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In the past 100 years, 1908-2008, Republican have presided for 56 years while the Democrats 44 years. In any event, the budget is still controlled by the Speaker of the House and the Democrats and the Republicans have run Congress for only 14 of those years since 1932!!!
Apart from your usual dose of boorish ignoramus prose, you don't deny that Rogue, he of wnd.com and foxnewsrightwingpropaganda.com fame intentionally misquoted Feinstein? Thank you. Your honesty has a peculiar way of expressing itself.

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Waiting for the POOF! LMAO!
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Ah, you forgot about Obama whose national debt has gone up SIX TRILLION DOLLARS! The National debt on January 2009 was $10.7T and it will shortly go over $17T and you blame ...... BUSH!!!
Obama Offers to Cut Social Security, Medicare and Popular Programs (Again)/ Move fulfills progressive predictions that deficit fear-mongering will pave the way for inevitable 'grand bargain'/ March 4, 2013 / http://tinyurl.com/bsccyhm
According to new reports, President Obama is once again offering cuts to popular social programs such as Medicare and Social Security as a bargaining chip in the ongoing sequester debate.
Such a move by the president is one that many progressives foresaw and warned against, saying that deficit fear-mongering would only pave the way for an inevitable "grand bargain."
According to White House senior economic official Gene Sperling, Obama "reached out" to lawmakers from both parties on Saturday floating a proposition to cut spending in order to appease Republican demands and the 'deficit scolds' who claim, despite evidence to the contrary, that cutting such programs is somehow fiscally responsible.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/03/...

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The reality behind Obama and Bush’s ‘spending binge’
05/25/2012 / http://tinyurl.com/bo57v8d
There’s a confused and confusing debate going on over whether President Obama has presided over a “spending binge,” as Republicans claim, or whether, under Obama,“federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.”
The key is fiscal year 2009 -- and who you blame for it. By any measure, spending popped that year. If you’re looking at raw dollars, it rose by $535 billion. And “the 2009 fiscal year,” writes Market Watch’s Rex Nutting,“which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House.”
That’s true: The federal fiscal year stretches, somewhat weirdly, from October to September. So fiscal year 2009 began in October 2008.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...

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