BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173379 Sep 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Can't forget her famous quote; "what difference does it make"! A well-run and truthful anti-Clinton campaign should be more than enough to make people think twice before electing her. Willary is another known liar, just as Bill is. Wasn't that illness just perfect timing? I mean perfect! Oh, and the slip/fall which caused her to have to wear birth protection eyewear! Yeah right!
Possibly, but the republicans are going to need someone pretty huge to beat her. Jeb won't get it done. There are few people that could stand against her. Hillary is smart, ambitious and willing to do anything it takes. That is a dangerous combination.
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173380 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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How do you justify that?
I mean... No one alive in the U.S. today was a slave. And I am willing to bet the number of slave owners hovers at about the same level.
And what are you thinking reparations should materialize as?
There are many Slaves in America today.

Bush called it Uniquely American to work three jobs.

Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173381 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So true. And perspicacious of you as usual. And yes, you're "spot on" (LRS tm reg'd), job creation offshore. Rogue always fails to take these factors into account. And then, in the same "delivery", ushers in climate change. Ahhh, ole Rogue, what would happen without him? Thanks to him and his buddy-buddy LRS, Topix keeps sailin' along.
Oh, and GB KFC, Frank and similar clowns keep repeating how Obama hates the U.S., the constitution and its people. Sure. But the job exporters and J.P. Morgan of this world don't. Naw.
In all fairness, lest self-clownstomper birthers intentionally misunderstand, corporate and individual welfare exists on an equal level in Canada and ALL so-called "have" countries. All guilty as charged of not giving a hoot for their own workers and consumers. We just see it more in the U.S. because of the size of its economy.
The rightwingers love to talk about Obama's birth in Kenya, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a Socialist/Communist and his healthcare is a government takeover .........

......... Rather than talk about the real issues that are destroying the Middle Class and working poor.

Fox News is number one with carrot and stick mind control.

Our friend Rouge must have thought his close friends Bush and Cheney were going to steal all the Iraqi oil and give him a good deal down in Florida.

ROTFL
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173382 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Jobs follow the money. The EPA and OSHA have destroyed more jobs in America than anything else. The solution, force all counties to comply with U.S. laws or have their products banned in the U.S.
Do you know how much the minimum wage is in Haiti? 60 cents an hour and that is one of the reasons Hanes makes underwear there.
OSHA protects workers.

Why are you always on the side of management and proprietors instead of the 99% of all the rest of us?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173383 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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No, but the slavery thing has been passed on upon generation and generation. The complexes brought about by slavery are not dead, and hey, even today's blacks were there when Jackie Robinson arrived on the premises, when the heroine Rosa Parks was arrested for acting like a normal human being, when, very recently, look at the Masters, blacks AND Jews were barred from such establishments. The Emancipation Declaration did not free the slaves per se, it booted them out of their homes (the slave owners' homes, to be more precise) and our of the meagre food they were given.
What to do? How should I know? How do you repair close to 300 years of servitude? Maybe affirmative action is a step forward, but then, even that is contested. I will pose the question : You're black, let's say, I'm white. Okay? Truth now, and except for professional sports, who has the best chance in life?
I would say it is a push. Based on the information provided.

Some kid born into being raised in a ghetto? Or a suburban childhood with parents that can make a genuine effort to see you educated?

If you are in favor of reparations you should probably have some idea of how to make something at least a little closer to right.

What do they deserve?

Money? Or would that be insulting? And how much? Who pays the bill?
Preferential treatment in the job market?
40 acres and a mule?
Eat free at red lobster on Wednesdays?

Nothing works.

What about the Irish? Or the Chinese? They practically built America on waitress wages.

If you can find an Indian... what about him?

I don't think anyone alive today owes anyone else alive today anything at all that isn't included in your taxes.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173384 Sep 29, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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There are many Slaves in America today.
Bush called it Uniquely American to work three jobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kIjo-dWE1JgXX
Wage slaves are a sure reality.

People with three part time jobs that are deciding whether to buy food or pay the electric bill.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173385 Sep 29, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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OSHA protects workers.
Why are you always on the side of management and proprietors instead of the 99% of all the rest of us?
Corporations are people too!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173386 Sep 29, 2013
Report from Reno. Robert L. "Hoot" Gibson is out of the race. It was originally thought that a backfire and blown out the induction system but it now looks to be the other way around.
Oh, Hoot is a retired Navy Captain (O-6) and former Space Shuttle pilot so he is a real best of the best.

http://vimeo.com/75535950

Anyway, my flight school classmate has been going to the Reno air races for over twenty years and is a race marshal. He lost his wings some twenty years ago when he pranged on in and became crippled and gets around in a wheel chair.
Also, he was from Selma, AL and he is a racist. He does not like black people. Other than that, he is a nice guy.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173387 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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It seems that San Zenone Degli Ezzelini, Italy is off the beaten path and looks like an agriculture area. Whatcha doing there?
Las Cruces retiree wrote:
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It is off the beaten path. Agriculture seems to be a large part of the economy.
Sono un insegante.
I had a fraternity brother, Dick Allen, who was a helicopter pilot in Nam. He took me up in a small plane and let me have the controls. It was difficult trying to keep the plane level. Unfortunately, Dick lost his life in battle.
I agree with virtually everything you say. Keep up the comments. Travel while you and your girlfriend have your health.
Being a low level pilot you see a lot more than you do from 30,000 feet in an airliner. You see the farmers planting their crops and in the end the harvest. I am not a farmer but they are almost 100% dependent on Mother Nature. Not enough rain, to much rain, rain at the wrong time and rain is just one factor.
You can get a lot from a map reconnaissance.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173388 Sep 29, 2013
No matter what one thinks of Nixon now - watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173389 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Being a low level pilot you see a lot more than you do from 30,000 feet in an airliner. You see the farmers planting their crops and in the end the harvest. I am not a farmer but they are almost 100% dependent on Mother Nature. Not enough rain, to much rain, rain at the wrong time and rain is just one factor.
You can get a lot from a map reconnaissance.
The poem Low Flight was written as a parody to High Flight.

LOW FLIGHT
Oh, I've slipped the surly bonds of earth
And hovered out of ground effect on semi-rigid blades;
Earthward I've auto'ed and met the rising brush of non-paved terrain
And done a thousand things you would never care to
Skidded and dropped and flared
Low in the heat soaked roar.
Confined there, I've chased the earthbound traffic
And lost the race to insignificant headwinds;
Forward and up a little in ground effect
I've topped the General's hedge with drooping turns
Where never Skyhawk [Navy A-4] or even Phantom [F-4] flew.
Shaking and pulling collective,
I've lumbered The low untresspassed halls of victor airways [low altitude airways][high altitude airways start at 18,000 feet],
Put out my hand and touched a tree.

óAnonymous

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173390 Sep 29, 2013
Other versions of Low Flight.

Alternate versions[edit source]

Another version, dedicated to those who fly close air support for ground forces - REALLY close air, the following is from the prospective of flying 50 feet AGL at 400 KIAS (knots indicated airspeed).

LOW FLIGHT
Oh, I've slipped the swirling clouds of dust
A few feet from the dirt.
I have flown my plane low enough
To make my bottom hurt.
I've raced over desert, hills, through valleys,
And mountain passes too.
Frolicked in the trees
Where only gray squirrels flew.

Chasing cows along the way,
Disturbing ram and ewe.
I've done a hundred other things
You damned well shouldn't do.
I have smacked the tiny sparrow,
Bluebird, robin, and the rest.
Dragged vorticies through branches
Throwing eggs out of their nests.

I've hurled through total darkness
Just as blind as I could be,
And spent the night in terror
Of things I could not see.
I've turned my eyes to heaven
Sweating bullets through the flight,
Reached out my hand and pressed-to-test
óthe Master Caution light.

C-130 Version Low Flight

Oh, I have slipped through
swirling clouds of dust,
A few feet from the dirt,
I've flown the C-130 low enough,
To make my bottom hurt.

I've flown in the desert, hills and valleys,
Mountains too,
Frolicked in the trees,
Where only flying squirrels flew.

Chased the frightened cows along,
Disturbed the ram and ewe,
And done a hundred other things
That you'd not care to do.

I've smacked the tiny sparrow,
Bluebird, robin, all the rest,
I've ingested baby eagles,
Simply sucked them from their nest.

I've streaked through total darkness,
Just the other guys and me,
And spent the night in terror of
Things I could not see.

I turned my eyes to heaven,
As I sweated through the flight,
Put out my hand and touched,
The Fire Warning Light.

Author unknown

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173391 Sep 29, 2013
"High Flight"
by John Gillespie Magee, Jr.

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward Iíve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
of sun-split clouds,ó and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of ó wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hovíring there,
Iíve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air....

Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
Iíve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace.
Where never lark, or even eagle flew ó
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
- Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173392 Sep 29, 2013
John Gillespie Magee, Jr. was an American who volunteered to fly for the Royal Canadian Air Force and died in advanced training just a few days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. He was just 19 y/o.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gillespie_M... .

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173393 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Quit it please with the repetitious and platitudinous jokes. At least the 5th time with this one and just as stupid.
Blacks will bully whites in schools when they are majority. The exact opposite, I presume, will happen when whites outnumber blacks.
To call Poppo and Wojo rednecks, particularly Poppo, is as logical as calling the Ayatollah Khomeni the Pope.
You do know Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter are rednecks, don't you?!?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173394 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
No matter what one thinks of Nixon now - watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup...
That is awesome.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173395 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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..........
Blacks will bully whites in schools when they are majority. The exact opposite, I presume, will happen when whites outnumber blacks.
..........
Ah the difference is, 1) blacks tend to be more violent than whites (just look at the crime rates)and 2) they are way to often given a free pass as compared to whites.
You see "social justice" dictates that black people have the right to attack white people because their distant relatives had been slaves. Two wrongs never make a Rev. Wright.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173396 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So, you believe that other races that have endured slavery, or other races that were slave owners, and there were plenty, justify your 200 years of slavery plus 100 years of discrimination? I don't give a hoot who practiced or practices it today or who were or are the slaves, IT IS WRONG, IT IS AN ABUSE OF HUMAN BEINGS, an affront to humanity. I'm well aware that slavery is still practiced today in many lands, and it is unbearable, unacceptable and darn it, why aren't we, the supposedly powerful nations, doing something about it?
I know about the (Mi)'Raj - you don't. Many black Africans who make the pilgrimage to Mecca are never seen again, particularly young men and women. They are often abducted, plain and simple, by rich Arab potentates. We know about this. Why aren't we acting? Petrol? Hmmmm. We are hypocrites.
As usual, the point went right over your head. Virtually all races in America have slavery attached to it, at some point in time. So, why are you not crying out for those people? You must think you're some kind of martyr or something. What a shame to bytch about something you can't change! You want to fix all the ills of the world but, in reality, you can't fix one of them! All you can do is complain. Shut up already!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173397 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
I would say it is a push. Based on the information provided.
Some kid born into being raised in a ghetto? Or a suburban childhood with parents that can make a genuine effort to see you educated?
If you are in favor of reparations you should probably have some idea of how to make something at least a little closer to right.
What do they deserve?
Money? Or would that be insulting? And how much? Who pays the bill?
Preferential treatment in the job market?
40 acres and a mule?
Eat free at red lobster on Wednesdays?
Nothing works.
What about the Irish? Or the Chinese? They practically built America on waitress wages.
If you can find an Indian... what about him?
I don't think anyone alive today owes anyone else alive today anything at all that isn't included in your taxes.
You wrote : "What about the Irish? Or the Chinese? They practically built America on waitress wages."

Funny you should think that. At least they got waitress wages. The blacks did a whole lot more than "practically built America", they did it for NO wages.

Again, the question. We both have the same intelligence, the same schooling, the same qualifications. I am white, you are black. Tell me frankly, who has the better chance of success?

As to how to "fix it", I have no idea, but as I said, how about treating everyone the same way? And pursuing affirmative action, you gotta let them get a foot in the door to offset those centuries of unfairness. Some money, yes but not too much, it doesn't work.

I just see a problem, is all. It won't go away by itself and you ask me what I would do while so-called experts and consultants have fooled around and toyed with the problem for so long, and paid millions to do it. And you ask me what should be done? I don't rightly know. But let's start you and me treating minorities , blacks included, with fairness and dignity.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#173398 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny,
I'm just sayin' that when time is of the essence, they often gotta play it safe and go with the Cat scan in spite of the cost drawbacks.
It does give them a lot of information real fast.
I was just using that as an example.

You know there's a lot of crumby doctors and even crumbier lawyers out there....

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