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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173364 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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I think the media turned on the administration when they had that deal where all their phone calls were being monitored and worse yet, some of their sources were identified.
The media will play along as long as you aren't infringing on their rights. But if you make their jobs difficult they will turn on you.
Besides, Obama can't be re-elected now. Campaign mode is ending late. I think they feel they can be slightly more honest about things. Slightly being the operable word in that one.
If the democrats field Hillary next election they need to show how much of an improvement she will be without abandoning the "hope and change" platform.
She will be very, very difficult to beat.
Can't forget her famous quote; "what difference does it make"! A well-run and truthful anti-Clinton campaign should be more than enough to make people think twice before electing her. Willary is another known liar, just as Bill is. Wasn't that illness just perfect timing? I mean perfect! Oh, and the slip/fall which caused her to have to wear birth protection eyewear! Yeah right!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173365 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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How do you justify that?
I mean... No one alive in the U.S. today was a slave. And I am willing to bet the number of slave owners hovers at about the same level.
And what are you thinking reparations should materialize as?
No, but the slavery thing has been passed on upon generation and generation. The complexes brought about by slavery are not dead, and hey, even today's blacks were there when Jackie Robinson arrived on the premises, when the heroine Rosa Parks was arrested for acting like a normal human being, when, very recently, look at the Masters, blacks AND Jews were barred from such establishments. The Emancipation Declaration did not free the slaves per se, it booted them out of their homes (the slave owners' homes, to be more precise) and our of the meagre food they were given.
What to do? How should I know? How do you repair close to 300 years of servitude? Maybe affirmative action is a step forward, but then, even that is contested. I will pose the question : You're black, let's say, I'm white. Okay? Truth now, and except for professional sports, who has the best chance in life?
Las Cruces retiree

Bassano Del Grappa, Italy

#173366 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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It seems that San Zenone Degli Ezzelini, Italy is off the beaten path and looks like an agriculture area. Whatcha doing there?
It is off the beaten path. Agriculture seems to be a large part of the economy.

Sono un insegante.

I had a fraternity brother, Dick Allen, who was a helicopter pilot in Nam. He took me up in a small plane and let me have the controls. It was difficult trying to keep the plane level. Unfortunately, Dick lost his life in battle.

I agree with virtually everything you say. Keep up the comments. Travel while you and your girlfriend have your health.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173367 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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No, racial harassment is rampant in schools. Not so much white-on-black but black-on-white because the school officials do not want to punish blacks proportional top whites.
That's right, for every black kid that is punished they MUST punish a white kid. Using this same logic, for every back person convicted of murder they must convict SIX white person of murder as there are six times as many white people as there are blacks.
I know it disturbs you that blacks are FIFTEEN TIMES more likely to commit murder than white are but we should not convict them at that same rate!!!
Poopo Logic
Poopo and Wojo rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead. The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic.
"What's logic?" Poopo asked.
The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"
"I sure do."
"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.
"That's real good!" said Poopo.
The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."
Impressed, the Poopo said, "Amazing!"
"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."
"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The Poopo was catching on.
"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.
"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"
Poopo, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.
"So what classes are ya takin'?" asked Wojo.
"Math, history, and logic!" replied Poopo.
"What in tarnation is logic?" asked Wojo.
"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked Poopo.
"No," Wojo replied.
To which Poopo replied, "You're queer, ain't ya?"
Quit it please with the repetitious and platitudinous jokes. At least the 5th time with this one and just as stupid.

Blacks will bully whites in schools when they are majority. The exact opposite, I presume, will happen when whites outnumber blacks.

To call Poppo and Wojo rednecks, particularly Poppo, is as logical as calling the Ayatollah Khomeni the Pope.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173368 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Barack Obama SNL Obamacare Intro - Saturday Night Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
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You don't get it. Every late night committed show has turned on Obama with the exception of Letterman. WHY? Because their audiences have turned cold to Obama.
Why don't YOU remind of us of how Palin came off on SNL. I posted a link so maybe you can find a link to make YOUR point!
Every late night committed show has turned on Obama? Well, well, tell that to Jay Leno who had Obama on 3 weeks ago. Was almost a love fest. You do post every conceivable phantasm that comes into that head of yours, don't you?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173369 Sep 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Can't forget her famous quote; "what difference does it make"! A well-run and truthful anti-Clinton campaign should be more than enough to make people think twice before electing her. Willary is another known liar, just as Bill is. Wasn't that illness just perfect timing? I mean perfect! Oh, and the slip/fall which caused her to have to wear birth protection eyewear! Yeah right!
Running a campaign "against someone" will always fail if you allow them to run unopposed. The Republicans allowed Obama to run unopposed and then were shocked when he won.

What was that fable about IQ levels?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173370 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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It seems that San Zenone Degli Ezzelini, Italy is off the beaten path and looks like an agriculture area. Whatcha doing there?
Agriculture? Farmer? Farmers have no place here?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173371 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Oh, and I wasn't trying to imply it was the fault of the staff.
A handful of people run hospitals, it is their decision. The x-rays happen regardless of which doctor/doctors happen to be on duty.
My story was basically that I was convinced by the wife to go to the ER for an abscess under my gums. I walked in without my insurance card but really only needed the thing punctured. I was going to do it myself but she convinced me because I could get antibiotics.
Regardless, I spent a total of 7 mins in the ER. Three of those were spent with a P.A. The lady stuck a needle in my mouth and wrote me a prescription for the "new" antibiotics.
The bill was just about 3500 dollars before insurance paid.
Didn't have my prescription card with me either. Decided to fill the script anyhow... how much could 4 pills be? Well, the asking price was 244 dollars.
I decided to risk infection. I wasn't going to pay that and I wasn't letting my insurance pay that.
The price gouging from the ER visit was not from test. I didn't have any. It was them passing off the debt from people who don't pay.
$3.500 for a routine needle in the gums, eh? Why aren't the directors of that hospital in jail?$3,500 for a $35 procedure. And THAT, folks, is why you can't have universal health care in the US. NO gov't or taxpayers could support that kind of highway robbery.

I didn't know how much a yearly full medical cost in Canada because we don't pay anything when we leave the doctor's cabinet. So, last time I saw her for something routine, I asked her what the gov't pays her for a routine visit and a yearly medical.$35 and $80 in that order, she said. And may I point out, she is not on welfare. Can someone give me a clue as to how much the equivalent two visits cost in the U.S.?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173372 Sep 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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If you're going to talk about slavery, include all races that have been used as slaves. Not just one group. Typical S stirrer.
So, you believe that other races that have endured slavery, or other races that were slave owners, and there were plenty, justify your 200 years of slavery plus 100 years of discrimination? I don't give a hoot who practiced or practices it today or who were or are the slaves, IT IS WRONG, IT IS AN ABUSE OF HUMAN BEINGS, an affront to humanity. I'm well aware that slavery is still practiced today in many lands, and it is unbearable, unacceptable and darn it, why aren't we, the supposedly powerful nations, doing something about it?

I know about the (Mi)'Raj - you don't. Many black Africans who make the pilgrimage to Mecca are never seen again, particularly young men and women. They are often abducted, plain and simple, by rich Arab potentates. We know about this. Why aren't we acting? Petrol? Hmmmm. We are hypocrites.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173374 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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I put 110K on my 2005 Honda CR-V then gave it to my granddaughter when I bought my 2012 CR-V. Other than an alignment problem early on, no problem.
My 2005 was a British built car and it seems that the Japanese built ones did not have the alignment problem. It cost me $250 to fix plus a set to tires whose life was cut in half. That happened at $20k miles and it has gone another 90k with normal tire wear. My last set of tires went 75k and I think my granddaughter has about 30k on the last set. Still has the original brakes.
I've had plenty of Hondas. Best car ever. Nothing except Toyota even comes close. Had on in West Africa, Honda coupe, drove it 2 yrs in Belgium, 2 years on unbelievable roads, in all conditions, had more than 150,000 miles on it, sold it to a local and off he drove with it into the interior. Have one now, it's a sweetheart.
Obskeptic

Oxford, MI

#173375 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, if you go to Yahoo News the fifth post is this article and it was post 13 hours ago. But it was there yesterday, the day before, and the day before that. Yep, Yahoo hash-tags some articles over and over again to make it sound like new news.
And at the same time they will not post Op Eds. WHY? Because they have a Global Warming agenda. But I thought it was Fox News that did not show all sides of all of the subjects?!?
Scientists more convinced mankind is main cause of warming
Reuters Alister Doyle and Simon Johnson 13 hours ago
By Alister Doyle and Simon Johnson
STOCKHOLM (Reuters)- Leading climate scientists said on Friday [not yesterday but from the week before]....
http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-more-convinc...
They went from 90% sure to 95% sure. Science by consensus. Similar to the days when the "science" of the time was 95% sure the world was flat! They're only saving grace is that everybody knows that the climate on the planet never changed before man showed up to wreak his havoc. LOL!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173377 Sep 29, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
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I had nothing to do with the history that was created before my existence. I bear no blame for any of that!
Why so on the defensive? Who blamed you? You? But that doesn't mean that the present-day Afro-American does not feel the age-old apartheid/discrimination of his forebears, and don't tell me it doesn't still exist in the minds of a hell of a lot of white people. And again, in all fairness to Americans, that attitude is prevalent world-wide, with, not necessarily in that order, anti woman, anti black, anti Jew, anti Arab , anti Hindu, anti-Pakistani etc. Again, still, in all fairness, blacks are probably treated not as poorly in the U.S. as in Europe, for example.

Stop feeling guilty, we know you weren't around then, though 1948, the 1960s, they ain't that far back.

I don't think blacks should have as many privileges as whites. I just think they should be treated equally. Are they? As I asked scrutiny, here we are , you and me. We have both identical qualifications, I'm white, you're black. Guess who has the best chance of success?
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173378 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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No, racial harassment is rampant in schools. Not so much white-on-black but black-on-white because the school officials do not want to punish blacks proportional top whites.
That's right, for every black kid that is punished they MUST punish a white kid. Using this same logic, for every back person convicted of murder they must convict SIX white person of murder as there are six times as many white people as there are blacks.
I know it disturbs you that blacks are FIFTEEN TIMES more likely to commit murder than white are but we should not convict them at that same rate!!!
Poopo Logic
Poopo and Wojo rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead. The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic.
"What's logic?" Poopo asked.
The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"
"I sure do."
"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.
"That's real good!" said Poopo.
The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."
Impressed, the Poopo said, "Amazing!"
"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."
"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The Poopo was catching on.
"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.
"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"
Poopo, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.
"So what classes are ya takin'?" asked Wojo.
"Math, history, and logic!" replied Poopo.
"What in tarnation is logic?" asked Wojo.
"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked Poopo.
"No," Wojo replied.
To which Poopo replied, "You're queer, ain't ya?"
I just flew in from Wiesbaden and boy are my arms tired!

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173379 Sep 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't forget her famous quote; "what difference does it make"! A well-run and truthful anti-Clinton campaign should be more than enough to make people think twice before electing her. Willary is another known liar, just as Bill is. Wasn't that illness just perfect timing? I mean perfect! Oh, and the slip/fall which caused her to have to wear birth protection eyewear! Yeah right!
Possibly, but the republicans are going to need someone pretty huge to beat her. Jeb won't get it done. There are few people that could stand against her. Hillary is smart, ambitious and willing to do anything it takes. That is a dangerous combination.
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173380 Sep 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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How do you justify that?
I mean... No one alive in the U.S. today was a slave. And I am willing to bet the number of slave owners hovers at about the same level.
And what are you thinking reparations should materialize as?
There are many Slaves in America today.

Bush called it Uniquely American to work three jobs.

Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173381 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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So true. And perspicacious of you as usual. And yes, you're "spot on" (LRS tm reg'd), job creation offshore. Rogue always fails to take these factors into account. And then, in the same "delivery", ushers in climate change. Ahhh, ole Rogue, what would happen without him? Thanks to him and his buddy-buddy LRS, Topix keeps sailin' along.
Oh, and GB KFC, Frank and similar clowns keep repeating how Obama hates the U.S., the constitution and its people. Sure. But the job exporters and J.P. Morgan of this world don't. Naw.
In all fairness, lest self-clownstomper birthers intentionally misunderstand, corporate and individual welfare exists on an equal level in Canada and ALL so-called "have" countries. All guilty as charged of not giving a hoot for their own workers and consumers. We just see it more in the U.S. because of the size of its economy.
The rightwingers love to talk about Obama's birth in Kenya, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a Socialist/Communist and his healthcare is a government takeover .........

......... Rather than talk about the real issues that are destroying the Middle Class and working poor.

Fox News is number one with carrot and stick mind control.

Our friend Rouge must have thought his close friends Bush and Cheney were going to steal all the Iraqi oil and give him a good deal down in Florida.

ROTFL
Linktv org

Brooklyn, NY

#173382 Sep 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Jobs follow the money. The EPA and OSHA have destroyed more jobs in America than anything else. The solution, force all counties to comply with U.S. laws or have their products banned in the U.S.
Do you know how much the minimum wage is in Haiti? 60 cents an hour and that is one of the reasons Hanes makes underwear there.
OSHA protects workers.

Why are you always on the side of management and proprietors instead of the 99% of all the rest of us?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173383 Sep 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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No, but the slavery thing has been passed on upon generation and generation. The complexes brought about by slavery are not dead, and hey, even today's blacks were there when Jackie Robinson arrived on the premises, when the heroine Rosa Parks was arrested for acting like a normal human being, when, very recently, look at the Masters, blacks AND Jews were barred from such establishments. The Emancipation Declaration did not free the slaves per se, it booted them out of their homes (the slave owners' homes, to be more precise) and our of the meagre food they were given.
What to do? How should I know? How do you repair close to 300 years of servitude? Maybe affirmative action is a step forward, but then, even that is contested. I will pose the question : You're black, let's say, I'm white. Okay? Truth now, and except for professional sports, who has the best chance in life?
I would say it is a push. Based on the information provided.

Some kid born into being raised in a ghetto? Or a suburban childhood with parents that can make a genuine effort to see you educated?

If you are in favor of reparations you should probably have some idea of how to make something at least a little closer to right.

What do they deserve?

Money? Or would that be insulting? And how much? Who pays the bill?
Preferential treatment in the job market?
40 acres and a mule?
Eat free at red lobster on Wednesdays?

Nothing works.

What about the Irish? Or the Chinese? They practically built America on waitress wages.

If you can find an Indian... what about him?

I don't think anyone alive today owes anyone else alive today anything at all that isn't included in your taxes.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173384 Sep 29, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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There are many Slaves in America today.
Bush called it Uniquely American to work three jobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kIjo-dWE1JgXX
Wage slaves are a sure reality.

People with three part time jobs that are deciding whether to buy food or pay the electric bill.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173385 Sep 29, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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OSHA protects workers.
Why are you always on the side of management and proprietors instead of the 99% of all the rest of us?
Corporations are people too!

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