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Dale

Wichita, KS

#173081 Sep 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Androgynous Skank is doubly wrong.
LMAO!!! Are you having problems with your sexual preference, "Billie Boy"?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173082 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
My god, you keep adding to the dumbness. Have you no limits? You really don't mind?
LMAO!!! Would you explain to the class why USSR wasn't branded with fascism, just how many of its citizens did they kill???
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173083 Sep 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
The Heritage Foundation was behind the insurance mandate when they first proposed it.
From Heritage Lecture 218:
"This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection."
Faux conservatives were not screaming SOCIALISM then.
LMAO!! The key word is "assumes".
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173084 Sep 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Frank, only 14 aliens arrived from Kenya during the relevant time period, and only one by air.
You're not even reading the correct report. What a surprise, birfoons don't even know what they're reading.
Clue Frank, the 1961 Annual Report covers the year ending June 30, 1961, which doesn't include August 1961.
Duh!
We're only talking one person, you know.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173085 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Told you, I don't support liars, namely you and Frank. Reference to report, please.
So you don't support Obobblehead?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173086 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
More intellectual prose from the slot. And quite a response too, full of logic, laden with repressed and obsessive (again) homosexual rants, with the usual gentle birther racist touch.
You failed to answer either question. I will assume both questions would be answered with a "yes". You need new material in the worse way.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173087 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Are you having problems with your sexual preference, "Billie Boy"?
More insight from Dufus. You're just a wealth of ....

Well nothingness basically
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#173088 Sep 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>We're only talking one person, you know.
You fantasize that he travelled alone as a new born? Talk about stupider each day

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173089 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Would you explain to the class why USSR wasn't branded with fascism, just how many of its citizens did they kill???
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173090 Sep 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
More insight from Dufus. You're just a wealth of ....
Well nothingness basically
LMAO!!! Well, are you, Billie Boy???

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173091 Sep 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
We're only talking one person, you know.
Really? Yes, it's well known that in her hurry and confusion, she forgot Barack in Mombasa. Oops, she said, as she alighted from the plane after her 72-hour flight. Gotta go back and get the little tyke, otherwise he has no chance of becoming president of the United States. So, she did go back, and this time remembered to bring little Barack with her, got through 4 border police checks with no papers, sneaked him into the U.S. into the hospital delivery room after bribing officials, nurses and doctors, faked birth, filled in his birth certificate, and as Barack was exceptionally precocious, had him sign it himself.

And so it goes with the birfoon clownstomping birthers. Approaching 5th presidential year now, and they are still inveighing and fighting windmills. What material you ignoramuses would've been for Cervantes.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173092 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
LMAO!!! I asked you a very simple question and I see you can't answer, why is that?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173093 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I asked you a very simple question and I see you can't answer, why is that?
And I gave you a straightforward answer, dolt. Look above your post, right up there. Could it be clearer? In another post, I compared socialism and your interpretation of it with countries whose names do NOT reflect their true status, like "People's Republic of..." or "Democratic Republic of..." . But all of it went right over your big head, didn't comprehend the analogy. Now, I've added the above and you still don't get it. Sigh. Remind me. You ARE allowed to vote, right?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173094 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
LMAO!!! Now why would you brand the National Socialist Party with fascism and not the USSR??
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173095 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
<quoted text>
And I gave you a straightforward answer, dolt. Look above your post, right up there. Could it be clearer? In another post, I compared socialism and your interpretation of it with countries whose names do NOT reflect their true status, like "People's Republic of..." or "Democratic Republic of..." . But all of it went right over your big head, didn't comprehend the analogy. Now, I've added the above and you still don't get it. Sigh. Remind me. You ARE allowed to vote, right?
LMAO!!! Fascism didn't exist in the days of the Great Khan and Attila, but a socialist is a socialist, all left of center.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173096 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
<quoted text>
And I gave you a straightforward answer, dolt. Look above your post, right up there. Could it be clearer? In another post, I compared socialism and your interpretation of it with countries whose names do NOT reflect their true status, like "People's Republic of..." or "Democratic Republic of..." . But all of it went right over your big head, didn't comprehend the analogy. Now, I've added the above and you still don't get it. Sigh. Remind me. You ARE allowed to vote, right?
LMAO!!! 1921, from Italian partito nazionale fascista, the anti-communist political movement organized 1919 under Benito Mussolini (1883-1945); from Italian fascio "group, association," literally "bundle" (see fasces).
It really looks like the National Socialist weren't the fascist, were they.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173097 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Now why would you brand the National Socialist Party with fascism and not the USSR??
How thick ! How very thick !. I've reposted my riposte on that, look above yours. If it makes you happy, I'll certainly brand the Russian communists, who committed such murderous atrocities, as fascists, no problem. But then, so were Attila, Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, the Crusaders, Mohamad, the inquisitors, the French and English North American Indian-killers ,same for the Spanish Conquistadores in Latin America and the European colonialists. ALL fascists. Happy now?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173098 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Fascism didn't exist in the days of the Great Khan and Attila, but a socialist is a socialist, all left of center.
Branding is but an exercise in semantics. Ever heard of retroactivity?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173099 Sep 27, 2013
For Dale, and I hope it helps. What is wrong with the following definition? Wikipedia :

Centre-left

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The centre-left also referred to as the moderate left, describes adherence to views leaning to the left but closer to the centre on the left-right political spectrum than other left-wing variants. Centre leftists, such as social democrats or social liberals, believe in working within the established systems to improve social justice.[1] The centre-left promotes a degree of social equality that it believes is achievable through promoting equal opportunity.[2] The centre-left has promoted luck egalitarianism that emphasizes that the achievement of equality requires personal responsibility in areas in control by the individual person through their abilities and talents and social responsibility in areas outside of control by the individual person in their abilities or talents.[3]

The centre-left opposes a wide gap between the rich and the poor and supports moderate measures to reduce the gap, such as a progressive income tax, laws prohibiting child labour, minimum wage laws, laws regulating working conditions, limits on working hours, laws to ensure workers' right to organize.[2] The centre-left, unlike the far-left, typically claims that equality of outcome is not possible (sometimes not even desirable), but that equal opportunity improves social equality in society.[2]

In Europe, the centre-left includes social democrats, social liberals, greens, progressives and also some democratic socialists. Some social liberals are described as centre-left, but also a lot of social liberals are in the centre of the political spectrum.[4][5]

NOW FOR THE CENTRE-RIGHT :

Centre-right

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The centre-right also referred to as the moderate right, describes adherence to views leaning to the right but closer to the centre on the left-right political spectrum than other right-wing variants.

From the 1830s to the 1880s, there was a shift in the Western world of social class structure and the economy, moving away from the nobility and mercantilism, and moving towards the bourgeoisie and capitalism.[1] This general economic shift towards capitalism affected centre-right movements such as the British Conservative Party that responded by becoming supportive of capitalism.[2]

The International Democrat Union, an alliance of centre-right political parties, including the British Conservative Party, the Republican Party of the United States, the Liberal Party of Australia, Christian democratic parties, amongst others across the world, is committed to the principles that "democratic societies provide individuals throughout the world with the best conditions for political liberty, personal freedom, equality of opportunity and economic development under the rule of law; and therefore being committed to advancing the social and political values on which democratic societies are founded, including the basic personal freedoms and human rights, as defined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; in particular, the right of free speech, organisation, assembly and non-violent dissent; the right to free elections and the freedom to organise effective parliamentary opposition to government; the right to a free and independent media; the right to religious belief; equality before the law; and individual opportunity and prosperity

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I don't see anything wrong with either. Do you?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#173100 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!! The key word is "assumes".
The key words are ignorance and denial.

Another key word is hypocrisy. It was such a great idea when proposed by the Heritage Foundation and it is anti-American, destroy-the-country socialism when implemented under a Democratic administration.

The individual mandate was proposed in "the Heritage Plan" in 1989.

"2) Mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance."

Nobody called it socialism then.
wojar wrote:
The Heritage Foundation was behind the insurance mandate when they first proposed it.
From Heritage Lecture 218:
"This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection."
Faux conservatives were not screaming SOCIALISM then.

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