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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173251 Sep 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Is this supposed to make sense? "A song lyric can be "wrong"? " Another lie, my my, you grow them like in a garden, don't you? Makes no sense at all. And yes, you did mentioned your height at one time. S-O-N-G L-Y-R-I-C Path, S-O-N-G L-Y-R-I-C....look it up. Show me where I said a lap baby did not count. You have no voice because you're the class azz. Maybe you should think about getting a pet? LMAO!!
Er, hmm, getting mixed up in your lies again, right? You originally wrote Read :

Justice LRS wrote :

A song lyric can be "wrong"? I think not. I do not think Obobblehead is eligible. I didn't say a lap baby would not count as a person entering the U.S. I do think Roberts was bought off. You can go on as long as you like. Just remember you have no voice here. LMAO! You said you were about 5' 10", right? Hmmm?

First sentence of your post : "A song lyric can be "wrong"?" I only repeated it. And does that give all and sundry an idea of why you kept repeating it? Why do you lie over and over again? Is it fun? Do you feel good about it? And why'd you stop chanting it after the electon, loser?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173252 Sep 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Twinkerbelle the Manbutt Hunter! LMAO!!! lil raggy
We get it, we get it, loud and clear, LRS, you're gay. Who cares? We are liberated, we accept it. You're the only one who doesn't, yet it concerns no one but you.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173253 Sep 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
The Heritage Foundation was behind the insurance mandate when they first proposed it.
From Heritage Lecture 218:
"This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection."
Faux conservatives were not screaming SOCIALISM then.
<quoted text>
What Wojo fails to mention that this was not the opinion of The Heritage Foundation but of the writer. Next, Wojor cherry picks bites that he thinks support Obamacare. The article is NINE pages long!!!
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assu ...
<quoted text>
Sooo, what's your point? A 65 year old women needs prenatal care? How about a Catholic Nun or a lesbian? Obamacare is bloated with all kinds of junk.
Again, Romneycare was amended in 2009 and again in 2010 and they are still trying to amend it because it costs the state to much.
I say let Obamacare stand the way it was written, no exemption for anyone and no special treatment for government works.
Obamacare will collapse all on it's own.
And darn it, the city just put in a new street in a new housing project not far from here. A street I will never use yet I'm paying taxes for it. UNFAIR. Damn gov't. And they're talking about building a new prison too. Why are my taxes paying for that? I'm not prisoner, never have been, don't intend being. Where the hell are my dollars going?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173254 Sep 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey Jacqueau, why did Canada pull out of the Kyoto Protocol?
List of parties to the Kyoto Protocol
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Canada denounced the convention effective 15 December 2012 and ceased to be a member from that date.
Easy. We have a conservative gov't. That's why. Liberals had signed it, conservatives opted out, decided tar sands development would never ever harm the environment.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173255 Sep 28, 2013
P.S. : Oh, over 1000 migrating birds landed in a tail pond 3 years ago. Died instantly. All of them. Now they have to have horns and other stuff to warn birds or any other animal or human away. Great stuff. Great people, the Conservative party of Canada.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#173256 Sep 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
You wrote : "One person arrived by air, an alien. Obviously not a newborn infant flying by himself."
Wojar, wojar, you don't understand. Immigration lawyer and specialist LRS did point out that this "newborn infant" travelled on his mother's lap and therefore had no need to be "vetted" by Immigration. Also, his mother, a 100% red-blooded American, had somehow become an alien.
Are you intentionally trying to deceive or are you just terribly confused?

The INS counts every human who arrives regardless of whether they are adults, children or infants. A newborn baby would be required either to have a US visa on a foreign passport, and hence would be counted as foreign. Or she or he would have to have a US passport or be entered on the US passport of either the mother (which is usual) or the father, and hence that child would be counted as a US citizen.

A total of 21 people arrived in the USA from Kenya in 1961 and all but one of them came by sea, by ship. That means that unless Obama's mother traveled alone and had baby Obama sent by ship, or baby Obama traveled alone (which is damn unlikely), she and he would have had to have been among the 20 people who arrived by ship------and there were no direct scheduled ships from Kenya to Hawaii in those days. That, plus the birth certificate from Hawaii saying that he was born there, plus the Index Data, plus the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers (which could have been sent to the papers ONLY by the DOH of Hawaii, which in 1961 sent those notices only for births in Hawaii) makes it virtually impossible for Obama to have been born in Kenya.(And, BTW, the Kenyan government said that it investigated and that Obama certainly was NOT born in Kenya.)
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173257 Sep 28, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Projection is the refuge of denial.
The persistence of his obsession is an indicator of its magnitude.
<quoted text>
The words that drip from your lips are verbal diarrhea! That can only mean one thing, you've got shyt for brains! lil raggy

BTW, saving your nickels and dimes for some more "seed" money? LMAO!!!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173258 Sep 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Er, hmm, getting mixed up in your lies again, right? You originally wrote Read :
Justice LRS wrote :
A song lyric can be "wrong"? I think not. I do not think Obobblehead is eligible. I didn't say a lap baby would not count as a person entering the U.S. I do think Roberts was bought off. You can go on as long as you like. Just remember you have no voice here. LMAO! You said you were about 5' 10", right? Hmmm?
First sentence of your post : "A song lyric can be "wrong"?" I only repeated it. And does that give all and sundry an idea of why you kept repeating it? Why do you lie over and over again? Is it fun? Do you feel good about it? And why'd you stop chanting it after the electon, loser?
Path, you've already won the Blue Ribbon for being mixed up. You need to look at your own post again, brainbucket!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173260 Sep 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
We get it, we get it, loud and clear, LRS, you're gay. Who cares? We are liberated, we accept it. You're the only one who doesn't, yet it concerns no one but you.
Very, very lame, boy.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173261 Sep 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
P.S.: Oh, over 1000 migrating birds landed in a tail pond 3 years ago. Died instantly. All of them. Now they have to have horns and other stuff to warn birds or any other animal or human away. Great stuff. Great people, the Conservative party of Canada.
Link from a reliable source, please.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#173262 Sep 28, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
wojar wrote:
The Heritage Foundation was behind the insurance mandate when they first proposed it.
From Heritage Lecture 218:
"This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection."
Faux conservatives were not screaming SOCIALISM then.
<quoted text>
What Wojo fails to mention that this was not the opinion of The Heritage Foundation but of the writer. Next, Wojor cherry picks bites that he thinks support Obamacare. The article is NINE pages long!!!
http://www.heritage.org/research/lecture/assu ...
<quoted text>
Sooo, what's your point? A 65 year old women needs prenatal care? How about a Catholic Nun or a lesbian? Obamacare is bloated with all kinds of junk.
Again, Romneycare was amended in 2009 and again in 2010 and they are still trying to amend it because it costs the state to much.
I say let Obamacare stand the way it was written, no exemption for anyone and no special treatment for government works.
Obamacare will collapse all on it's own.
The point was made quite clearly, Rouge simply doesn't want to see it.

Health insurance mandate created by the Heritage Foundation. Hailed by them when MA adopted such a plan. Suddenly it's socialism when implemented by a Democratic administration in Washington.

And Rouge, Heritage had several economists behind the "Heritage Plan" not just Stuart Butler, Ph. D. that's why it was called "The Heritage Plan."

Does that help you focus your mind Rougie?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Rouge seems to believe that the length of Butler's lecture somehow negates that it supports an individual mandate, that the Heritage Plan was pitched to Congress, that Heritage lauded the individual insurance mandate in Massachusetts and that NOBODY CALLED AN INSURANCE MANDATE 'SOCIALISM' until Democrats got on-board with the plan and actually did something rather than talking about it.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173264 Sep 28, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The point was made quite clearly, Rouge simply doesn't want to see it.
Health insurance mandate created by the Heritage Foundation. Hailed by them when MA adopted such a plan. Suddenly it's socialism when implemented by a Democratic administration in Washington.
And Rouge, Heritage had several economists behind the "Heritage Plan" not just Stuart Butler, Ph. D. that's why it was called "The Heritage Plan."
Does that help you focus your mind Rougie?
<quoted text>
What we have does not work. Obamacare does something benevolent and a bit sinister. I think I have told the story about my 3,400 dollar bill for 5 mins in the ER. That is a result of people not paying their bills and what our current system does to punish those who do.

We already see deductions in our checks for people on welfare. That includes state medical cards. Healthcare providers LOVE state medical cards. They abuse them like muslim women.

I am not a fan of govt. healthcare. I don't think my medical history should be state information. You know what? The IRS is getting huge over this. I guess they are going to be the health gestapo.

Does it bother anyone else that life, death and taxes are going to be run by one govt agency? No?...

That aside, it would be a welcome change to pay my fair share instead of paying through my income and getting raped on the rare occasion I do use medical facilities for my family.

How does it affect the monster that is the pharmaceutical industry? How will it affect the pharmaceutical lobby?

What happens if I already have insurance I am happy with?

Will I even qualify? Isn't the process of qualification downgrading the idea principal of the word "universal" its self?

I don't know enough about it to make a judgement about it. There are parts I don't like. But if it actually is what they say it is... it would be hard to argue against it.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#173265 Sep 28, 2013
"[H]eating continues during the recent upper-ocean-warming hiatus, but the heat is absorbed in the deeper ocean. In the last decade, about 30% of the warming has occurred below 700 m, contributing significantly to an acceleration of the warming trend."

Magdalena A. Balmaseda, Kevin E. Trenberth, and Erland Klln, GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 40, 17541759, doi:10.1002/grl.50382, 2013.

Real science, not junk.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173266 Sep 28, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Friends of Science? Like I said, crank science.
Len Maier, retired engineer, climate crank.
And NASA has not predicted global cooling.
Sorry, the latest data shows that the earth has been absorbing more heat than it loses even while the sun's irradiance has diminished. Indeed global warming has accelerated in the past 15 years. However, because much of the recent warming has occurred below ocean depths of 700 m junk science climate deniers make believe it isn't happening.
<quoted text>
In time, perhaps you'll understand the importance of standing for something. Then again, maybe not!

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173267 Sep 28, 2013
wojar wrote:
"[H]eating continues during the recent upper-ocean-warming hiatus, but the heat is absorbed in the deeper ocean. In the last decade, about 30% of the warming has occurred below 700 m, contributing significantly to an acceleration of the warming trend."
Magdalena A. Balmaseda, Kevin E. Trenberth, and Erland Klln, GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 40, 17541759, doi:10.1002/grl.50382, 2013.
Real science, not junk.
Global warming happens. And apparently is happening.

What percentage of influence that man has on this is the only thing really being debated in science.

Solutions to this are available. Consider it our trial by fire introduction to terraforming. I find it really exciting.

There are a few camps out there that argue over what the effects will be if our recent trend continues, so we are kind of too far away to even know what we should be doing about it. But this is certainly not the first time this has happened. Our ancestors survived an ice age somehow.

Global warming will not kill off mankind. But it is something to play with while we understand more about our home. Overcoming climate change will be an essential part of our long term survival.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#173268 Sep 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
In time, perhaps you'll understand the importance of standing for something. Then again, maybe not!
Standing for crank science is pathetic.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Friends of Science? Like I said, crank science.
Len Maier, retired engineer, climate crank.
And NASA has not predicted global cooling.
Sorry, the latest data shows that the earth has been absorbing more heat than it loses even while the sun's irradiance has diminished. Indeed global warming has accelerated in the past 15 years. However, because much of the recent warming has occurred below ocean depths of 700 m junk science climate deniers make believe it isn't happening.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173269 Sep 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
In time, perhaps you'll understand the importance of standing for something. Then again, maybe not!
Standing against carbon taxes and the retarded licencing of pollution is one thing.

Standing against science is another.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#173270 Sep 28, 2013
That right, Scrootiny.
Because America can be such a litigious society, some MD's practice CYA medicine and order an over-abundance of tests for fear of being sued.
I've seen it for myself. Been there, done that.
loose

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173271 Sep 28, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you intentionally trying to deceive or are you just terribly confused?
The INS counts every human who arrives regardless of whether they are adults, children or infants. A newborn baby would be required either to have a US visa on a foreign passport, and hence would be counted as foreign. Or she or he would have to have a US passport or be entered on the US passport of either the mother (which is usual) or the father, and hence that child would be counted as a US citizen.
A total of 21 people arrived in the USA from Kenya in 1961 and all but one of them came by sea, by ship. That means that unless Obama's mother traveled alone and had baby Obama sent by ship, or baby Obama traveled alone (which is damn unlikely), she and he would have had to have been among the 20 people who arrived by ship------and there were no direct scheduled ships from Kenya to Hawaii in those days. That, plus the birth certificate from Hawaii saying that he was born there, plus the Index Data, plus the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers (which could have been sent to the papers ONLY by the DOH of Hawaii, which in 1961 sent those notices only for births in Hawaii) makes it virtually impossible for Obama to have been born in Kenya.(And, BTW, the Kenyan government said that it investigated and that Obama certainly was NOT born in Kenya.)
Sarcasm. Sorry.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173272 Sep 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
The words that drip from your lips are verbal diarrhea! That can only mean one thing, you've got shyt for brains! lil raggy
BTW, saving your nickels and dimes for some more "seed" money? LMAO!!!
More great prose : "shyt for brains"

More anal obsessions, this time with the end (pun intended) result. LMAO (LRS tm reg'd)"

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