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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172999 Sep 26, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Twenty-one, TOTAL, not 334 by sea and 1,012 by air.
Here is the complete Immigration and Nationalization Services (INS) report for 1961:
http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...
Scroll down to page 74, about two-thirds of the way down in the book, and you will find the Kenya arrivals listing—there were only 21 arrivals.
On page 77, the same report shows the number of people who WENT to Kenya in fiscal 1961, and that shows that only 63 did (of whom 60 were Americans), and that of the 63 not a single person, not one, went by air. They ALL went by ship.
So, according to birther theory, Obama’s mother, in the last two months of pregnancy at the age of 18, was among the 60 Americans who went to Kenya by sea in fiscal 1961 and one of the seven Americans who came to the USA from Kenya in fiscal 1961, and again she traveled by sea (since on Americans came to the USA from Kenya by air).
There were, by the way, no normally scheduled direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961 (although of course there could have been a tramp steamer).
Moreover, there has never been any indication that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961----and very few 18-year-olds did, and extremely few women traveled outside of the USA while in the last few months of pregnancy due to the risk of stillbirths. Yet birthers would like rational people to ASSUME that Obama's mother was one of the very few 18-year-olds to have a passport and one of the extremely few pregnant women who traveled abroad, and that she traveled by ship to Kenya and returned by ship from Kenya (thought, BTW, the government of Kenya has said that Obama was not born in Kenya)and that birth certificate of Hawaii was forged and the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii who have confirmed that they sent the short form and long form to Obama are lying---and so is the Index Data and so is the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.
I challenged him to give me the source for these impossible numbers, Ellen (334, and 1012). No reply. What a surprise. You see, he picks those from his biased and hateful mind, posts them, they go around, his birhter ilk swallow it hook, line and sinker, they gravitate back to him and presto, it's true! This, Ellen, is what the right is all about.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173000 Sep 26, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should we "eat our heart out"? Obobblehead has been an epic fail from day one! Just like you. Been recycling your toilet paper this morning?
Yes, I have, just mailed you a whole box, and as per your instructions, did not perfume the contents. Hope it fulfills your anal fantasies/obsessions.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173001 Sep 26, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but it does not say where they came from. It said where they "embarked from" and there were very few ships and planes that made a direct trip between Kenya and America. Now if they flew to a European city and then switched planes, they "embarked" from a European country!!!
Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?
You do know that Dr. Orly Taitz still has an active lawsuit about Obama's fraudulent Selective Service registration, don't you?
Update: No decisio0ns yet in 7 Obama cases. No new date for October in the 4th District. Waiting for DOJ to file a response in the case of Obama’s use of a stolen SSN of Harry Bounel and in the case of Obama using a fabricated stamp on his Selective Service certificate
Posted on | September 9, 2013
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/...
Do you realise how far-fetched the above is? Do you even realise how it makes no sense, this Obama BC conspiracy? Do you even realise how Orly Taitz has been laughed and ridiculed out of every court she's ever been in in the U.S.? Do you realise what a poor sucker you are, coming back with her every now and then, an epic failure except at siphoning funds from you and birhters alike, as she laughs all the way to the bank. I take it back, she is no failure at all, you and your ilk are.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173002 Sep 26, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!! Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th century German Nazi Party and state ...
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That is correct Dale.

National Socialism = Nazis = Extreme right politics.

Know the difference between socialism and national socialism?

The NATION is all that matters. Bringing Germany back to it's former glory and a return of traditional values. Anti-immigration. The nationalization of all trust. Nationally controlled press. And probably the most telling of the 25 point Nazi Platform....

(Excerpt of the Nazi platform)
==========
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:
==========

Communist abolish religion.

NONE of the above are left wing ideals.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#173003 Sep 26, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Scutiny,
You are right again.
It is next to impossible to take the extreme right's political arguments seriously when they have gravy stains all over the front of their shirts.
I think it is spectacularly jaw dropping that some people have been so well programmed that they can't see what they support.

Twisted so far as to deny what they wish to become.

I am not saying that all republicans are equal to Nazis anymore than democrats are equivalent to socialist or communist.

I don't think most people who are hard line rep. or dem.(I don't consider either Americans) have ever stepped back from name calling and "Them and Us" style banter to ask themselves a simple question....

What happens if we get exactly what we want?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173004 Sep 26, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I have, just mailed you a whole box, and as per your instructions, did not perfume the contents. Hope it fulfills your anal fantasies/obsessions.
That's quite alright, Path. BTW, what address did you send that to? LMAO! Does the term "toilet paper" always make you think of anal fantasies and obsessions? You are beyond weird. lil raggy
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173005 Sep 26, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you realise how far-fetched the above is? Do you even realise how it makes no sense, this Obama BC conspiracy? Do you even realise how Orly Taitz has been laughed and ridiculed out of every court she's ever been in in the U.S.? Do you realise what a poor sucker you are, coming back with her every now and then, an epic failure except at siphoning funds from you and birhters alike, as she laughs all the way to the bank. I take it back, she is no failure at all, you and your ilk are.
Why do you support a liar? I've asked you this many times but never get an answer. How come, Path? LMAO!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173006 Sep 26, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but it does not say where they came from. It said where they "embarked from" and there were very few ships and planes that made a direct trip between Kenya and America. Now if they flew to a European city and then switched planes, they "embarked" from a European country!!!
Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?
You do know that Dr. Orly Taitz still has an active lawsuit about Obama's fraudulent Selective Service registration, don't you?
Update: No decisio0ns yet in 7 Obama cases. No new date for October in the 4th District. Waiting for DOJ to file a response in the case of Obama’s use of a stolen SSN of Harry Bounel and in the case of Obama using a fabricated stamp on his Selective Service certificate
Posted on | September 9, 2013
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/...
"Country of Embarkation" means the country where you STARTED the trip. It does not mean any of the countries you stopped in on the way or for that matter the last country you stopped in.

In 1961, there were only 21 people who started their trips to the USA in Kenya. So, where did you get the figures that say 334 came to the USA by sea and 1,012 by air?

Re: "Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?"

Answer: Obama's mother's passport file was made available to the birther Strunk years ago under the Freedom of Information Act, and there is nothing in it that indicates that she had a passport in 1961. Moreover, Strunk and other birthers who had access to the FOI Act files have never shown on what date the passport file was created.(I wonder why not??????) If in fact the file was created after 1961 (as is highly likely), then Obama's mother could not have had a passport in 1961.

Birthers' unwillingness to show the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created tends to confirm the high probability that she did not have one. In any case, very few 18-year-olds did have a passport in 1961, and yet birthers would like us to assume that Obama's mother was one of the very few who did. And extremely few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961, and yet birthers would like us to assume that Obama's mother was one of the extremely few who did. And, they would like us to assume that she made that trip to Kenya and gave birth there (which, BTW, the Kenyan government said did not happen) despite the fact that her husband stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961 (as WND has proven with a FOI Act request).

AND, they would like us to assume that she had a passport and traveled late in pregnancy ALONE despite the fact that there is a birth certificate from Hawaii saying that she gave birth in Kapiolani Hospital. And the fact that there is such a birth certificate and says that he was born in that hospital was confirmed repeatedly by the officials of BOTH political parties in Hawaii, and further confirmed by the public Index Data file and still further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173007 Sep 26, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but it does not say where they came from. It said where they "embarked from" and there were very few ships and planes that made a direct trip between Kenya and America. Now if they flew to a European city and then switched planes, they "embarked" from a European country!!!
Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?
You do know that Dr. Orly Taitz still has an active lawsuit about Obama's fraudulent Selective Service registration, don't you?
Update: No decisio0ns yet in 7 Obama cases. No new date for October in the 4th District. Waiting for DOJ to file a response in the case of Obama’s use of a stolen SSN of Harry Bounel and in the case of Obama using a fabricated stamp on his Selective Service certificate
Posted on | September 9, 2013
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/...
Re Orly's lawsuit about Obama's "forged" Selective Service card. Since Obama has never published his Selective Service card, that lawsuit is against the wrong person and will fail. Who published Obama's Selective Service card? A birther. Who had the opportunity to forge it? Answer: The birther, of course.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173008 Sep 26, 2013
Joe OBiden wrote:
An American businessman returns home after a week doing business in Hong Kong. The next morning he woke up and noticed he had blue spots on his love tool and he ran to his doctor.
His doctor examined him and asked him where he had been and he said 'Hong Kong'. He had a weekend fling with the prettiest Chinese girl he had ever met. His doctor checked his reference and said, "You have Mongolian VD"!
"Is is bad", he asked? and his doctor said 'yes' and the only solution was amputation. To which the businessman asked if he could have a second opinion to which his doctor said there was a Chinese doctor across town.
The businessman ran across town and was examined by the Chinese doctor who concurred that he had Mongolian VD. He said it was "Werry werry bad" and the businessman said his doctor had said that too and that he needed to amputate.
The Chinese doctor then said, "Amewican doctor alway wan to opewate, costs too much money, no wowwy, it fall off awl by itself in a week or so"!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
More senility ? Third time around this one, minimum.
So you enjoy my jokes?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#173009 Sep 26, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but it does not say where they came from. It said where they "embarked from" and there were very few ships and planes that made a direct trip between Kenya and America. Now if they flew to a European city and then switched planes, they "embarked" from a European country!!!
Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?
You do know that Dr. Orly Taitz still has an active lawsuit about Obama's fraudulent Selective Service registration, don't you?
Update: No decisio0ns yet in 7 Obama cases. No new date for October in the 4th District. Waiting for DOJ to file a response in the case of Obama’s use of a stolen SSN of Harry Bounel and in the case of Obama using a fabricated stamp on his Selective Service certificate
Posted on | September 9, 2013
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/ ...
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Re Orly's lawsuit about Obama's "forged" Selective Service card. Since Obama has never published his Selective Service card, that lawsuit is against the wrong person and will fail. Who published Obama's Selective Service card? A birther. Who had the opportunity to forge it? Answer: The birther, of course.
So Obama did not publish one. But the SS supplied one based on an FOI request. This means someone in the SS forged the document. WHY? Maybe because Obama never complied with the law in the first place.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#173010 Sep 26, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but it does not say where they came from. It said where they "embarked from" and there were very few ships and planes that made a direct trip between Kenya and America. Now if they flew to a European city and then switched planes, they "embarked" from a European country!!!
Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?
You do know that Dr. Orly Taitz still has an active lawsuit about Obama's fraudulent Selective Service registration, don't you?
Update: No decisio0ns yet in 7 Obama cases. No new date for October in the 4th District. Waiting for DOJ to file a response in the case of Obama’s use of a stolen SSN of Harry Bounel and in the case of Obama using a fabricated stamp on his Selective Service certificate
Posted on | September 9, 2013
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/ ...
<quoted text>
So Obama did not publish one. But the SS supplied one based on an FOI request. This means someone in the SS forged the document. WHY? Maybe because Obama never complied with the law in the first place.
"Country of Embarkation" means the country where you STARTED the trip. It does not mean any of the countries you stopped in on the way or for that matter the last country you stopped in.

In 1961, there were only 21 people who started their trips to the USA in Kenya. So, where did you get the figures that say 334 came to the USA by sea and 1,012 by air?

Re: "Next, you sat there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport. Well, has anyone been allowed to check? Have her files been purged?!?"

Answer: Obama's mother's passport file was made available to the birther Strunk years ago under the Freedom of Information Act, and there is nothing in it that indicates that she had a passport in 1961. Moreover, Strunk and other birthers who had access to the FOI Act files have never shown on what date the passport file was created.(I wonder why not??????) If in fact the file was created after 1961 (as is highly likely), then Obama's mother could not have had a passport in 1961.

Birthers' unwillingness to show the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created tends to confirm the high probability that she did not have one. In any case, very few 18-year-olds did have a passport in 1961, and yet birthers would like us to assume that Obama's mother was one of the very few who did. And extremely few women traveled abroad late in pregnancy in 1961, and yet birthers would like us to assume that Obama's mother was one of the extremely few who did. And, they would like us to assume that she made that trip to Kenya and gave birth there (which, BTW, the Kenyan government said did not happen) despite the fact that her husband stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961 (as WND has proven with a FOI Act request).

AND, they would like us to assume that she had a passport and traveled late in pregnancy ALONE despite the fact that there is a birth certificate from Hawaii saying that she gave birth in Kapiolani Hospital. And the fact that there is such a birth certificate and says that he was born in that hospital was confirmed repeatedly by the officials of BOTH political parties in Hawaii, and further confirmed by the public Index Data file and still further confirmed by the birth notices sent to the Hawaii newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 (and only the DOH could send birth notices to that section of the newspapers, and it only did so for births IN Hawaii).

Re: "But the SS supplied one based on an FOI request. This means someone in the SS forged the document. "

Answer: So now the SS Administration back during the Bush Administration is forging Obama's SS card? What is far more likely is that the birther got the card with a FOI request and then fooled around a little with it a bit before publishing it---so, duh, the SS card was indeed forged;it was forged by that birther.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173011 Sep 26, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
That's quite alright, Path. BTW, what address did you send that to? LMAO! Does the term "toilet paper" always make you think of anal fantasies and obsessions? You are beyond weird. lil raggy
The jury has been summoned once more. Unanimous, again, your reply is a poor half-imitation of Jacques's post, and is deemed to be weak and totally lame. You are sentenced to 1 month without pork rinds and bathtub beer. The jury furthers asks why you are so intent on being clobbered at every turn and collectively wonders what it is that makes you stagger off the canvas at every turn. One distinguished member has hinted at hate and envy on your part. What do you think?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173012 Sep 26, 2013
furthers - further
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173013 Sep 26, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Source or dictionary for that socialism definition, please.
LMAO!!! What's wrong can't you read? What do you not get about the Nazis, they were socialists, the National Socialist Party.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173014 Sep 26, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
This is just too much like LRS, and somewhat Rogue, replying that it was answered when the liar knows full well, as everyone else does, that it was NOT answered. We still don't have the name of that dictionary that you used to define "socialism", liar.
Admit you got the definition from Webster and that the definition was for the word "communism", NOT socialism. Do you really not care how lying and foolish you look? Give me the post number where you gave that answer, that is to say, the name of the dictionary.
And at the same time, your source for all those Kenyans coming to Hawaii in 1961.
LMAO!!! I see you are having a mental breakdown, keep up the good work, Nazi!!! Hahahaha!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173015 Sep 26, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Better than 3 of the 5 biggest contributors to the European Union, better than Germany, the country that is the driver and most prosperous in Europe, and in the world's top 5 ? Are you THAT ignorant?
LMAO!!! And all are socialist.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173016 Sep 26, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, so you did, it WAS the definition of communism. So ignorant, you don't even know the difference. You ARE allowed to vote, right?
LMAO!!! Look at yourself, you didn't even know that the Nazis were socialist!!! Hahaha!!!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#173017 Sep 26, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
That is correct Dale.
National Socialism = Nazis = Extreme right politics.
Know the difference between socialism and national socialism?
The NATION is all that matters. Bringing Germany back to it's former glory and a return of traditional values. Anti-immigration. The nationalization of all trust. Nationally controlled press. And probably the most telling of the 25 point Nazi Platform....
(Excerpt of the Nazi platform)
==========
24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.
The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:
==========
Communist abolish religion.
NONE of the above are left wing ideals.
LMAO!!! Everyone knows that socialism is to the left of center.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173018 Sep 26, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Everyone knows that socialism is to the left of center.
Dale, Dale, shades of every known birther in this thread, don't you think you've clowned sufficiently? Have you no pride at all? Wrong at every turn, your only replies are "Socialist and Nazi", yet you don't even know how to differentiate them. As Archie Bunker would so nobly say, "Stifle yourself", though you're not in Edith's league.

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