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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Dale

United States

#173096 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
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And I gave you a straightforward answer, dolt. Look above your post, right up there. Could it be clearer? In another post, I compared socialism and your interpretation of it with countries whose names do NOT reflect their true status, like "People's Republic of..." or "Democratic Republic of..." . But all of it went right over your big head, didn't comprehend the analogy. Now, I've added the above and you still don't get it. Sigh. Remind me. You ARE allowed to vote, right?
LMAO!!! 1921, from Italian partito nazionale fascista, the anti-communist political movement organized 1919 under Benito Mussolini (1883-1945); from Italian fascio "group, association," literally "bundle" (see fasces).
It really looks like the National Socialist weren't the fascist, were they.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173097 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
Would you rephrase that question or do you really want to shout your ignorance to all and sundry? Was Genghis Khan a fascist? Was Attila the Hun a fascist? Does one have to be a fascist to murder people?
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Now why would you brand the National Socialist Party with fascism and not the USSR??
How thick ! How very thick !. I've reposted my riposte on that, look above yours. If it makes you happy, I'll certainly brand the Russian communists, who committed such murderous atrocities, as fascists, no problem. But then, so were Attila, Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, the Crusaders, Mohamad, the inquisitors, the French and English North American Indian-killers ,same for the Spanish Conquistadores in Latin America and the European colonialists. ALL fascists. Happy now?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173098 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Fascism didn't exist in the days of the Great Khan and Attila, but a socialist is a socialist, all left of center.
Branding is but an exercise in semantics. Ever heard of retroactivity?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173099 Sep 27, 2013
For Dale, and I hope it helps. What is wrong with the following definition? Wikipedia :

Centre-left

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The centre-left also referred to as the moderate left, describes adherence to views leaning to the left but closer to the centre on the left-right political spectrum than other left-wing variants. Centre leftists, such as social democrats or social liberals, believe in working within the established systems to improve social justice.[1] The centre-left promotes a degree of social equality that it believes is achievable through promoting equal opportunity.[2] The centre-left has promoted luck egalitarianism that emphasizes that the achievement of equality requires personal responsibility in areas in control by the individual person through their abilities and talents and social responsibility in areas outside of control by the individual person in their abilities or talents.[3]

The centre-left opposes a wide gap between the rich and the poor and supports moderate measures to reduce the gap, such as a progressive income tax, laws prohibiting child labour, minimum wage laws, laws regulating working conditions, limits on working hours, laws to ensure workers' right to organize.[2] The centre-left, unlike the far-left, typically claims that equality of outcome is not possible (sometimes not even desirable), but that equal opportunity improves social equality in society.[2]

In Europe, the centre-left includes social democrats, social liberals, greens, progressives and also some democratic socialists. Some social liberals are described as centre-left, but also a lot of social liberals are in the centre of the political spectrum.[4][5]

NOW FOR THE CENTRE-RIGHT :

Centre-right

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The centre-right also referred to as the moderate right, describes adherence to views leaning to the right but closer to the centre on the left-right political spectrum than other right-wing variants.

From the 1830s to the 1880s, there was a shift in the Western world of social class structure and the economy, moving away from the nobility and mercantilism, and moving towards the bourgeoisie and capitalism.[1] This general economic shift towards capitalism affected centre-right movements such as the British Conservative Party that responded by becoming supportive of capitalism.[2]

The International Democrat Union, an alliance of centre-right political parties, including the British Conservative Party, the Republican Party of the United States, the Liberal Party of Australia, Christian democratic parties, amongst others across the world, is committed to the principles that "democratic societies provide individuals throughout the world with the best conditions for political liberty, personal freedom, equality of opportunity and economic development under the rule of law; and therefore being committed to advancing the social and political values on which democratic societies are founded, including the basic personal freedoms and human rights, as defined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; in particular, the right of free speech, organisation, assembly and non-violent dissent; the right to free elections and the freedom to organise effective parliamentary opposition to government; the right to a free and independent media; the right to religious belief; equality before the law; and individual opportunity and prosperity

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I don't see anything wrong with either. Do you?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#173100 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!! The key word is "assumes".
The key words are ignorance and denial.

Another key word is hypocrisy. It was such a great idea when proposed by the Heritage Foundation and it is anti-American, destroy-the-country socialism when implemented under a Democratic administration.

The individual mandate was proposed in "the Heritage Plan" in 1989.

"2) Mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance."

Nobody called it socialism then.
wojar wrote:
The Heritage Foundation was behind the insurance mandate when they first proposed it.
From Heritage Lecture 218:
"This mandate is based on two important principles. First, that health care protection is a responsibility of individuals, not businesses. Thus to the extent that anybody should be required to provide coverage to a family, the household mandate assumes that it is the family that carries the first responsibility. Second, it assumes that there is an implicit contract between households and society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection."
Faux conservatives were not screaming SOCIALISM then.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173101 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! 1921, from Italian partito nazionale fascista, the anti-communist political movement organized 1919 under Benito Mussolini (1883-1945); from Italian fascio "group, association," literally "bundle" (see fasces).
It really looks like the National Socialist weren't the fascist, were they.
So, it was anti-communist. Does that mean that Russia was not socialist, as Italy purportedly was?

Is the People's Republic of China really TRE People's Republic? All theirs? LMAO (Dale tm reg'd)

Is the Democratic Republic of the Congo really a Democratic Republic?

Are you beginning to understand, now, the slogan "What's in a name?"
Learn to Read

United States

#173102 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Well, are you, Billie Boy???
Laughing at you? Absolutely

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#173103 Sep 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
We're only talking one person, you know.
Sorry, only one person arrived by air - an alien. You really think a four-day-old child was flying by himself?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry Frank, only 14 aliens arrived from Kenya during the relevant time period, and only one by air.
You're not even reading the correct report. What a surprise, birfoons don't even know what they're reading.
Clue Frank, the 1961 Annual Report covers the year ending June 30, 1961, which doesn't include August 1961.
Duh!
el cid 777

Scranton, PA

#173104 Sep 27, 2013
Hi! I do not know what to comment on! I guess I am
not much of a writer. I think in 4 months the U.S.A.
role in the war in Afghanistan will be over! If the
U.S.A. doesn`t get in another war, it will be the
first time in 40 years we have not been involved in
a war! And let us give peace a chance. Islam will
still be fighting Islam! So. Let them fight! I have
said enough. Love, el cid 777
Dale

United States

#173105 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Branding is but an exercise in semantics. Ever heard of retroactivity?
LMAO!!! I see you as a drowing man who will grab for anything.
Dale

United States

#173106 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
For Dale, and I hope it helps. What is wrong with the following definition? Wikipedia :
Centre-left
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The centre-left also referred to as the moderate left, describes adherence to views leaning to the left but closer to the centre on the left-right political spectrum than other left-wing variants. Centre leftists, such as social democrats or social liberals, believe in working within the established systems to improve social justice.[1] The centre-left promotes a degree of social equality that it believes is achievable through promoting equal opportunity.[2] The centre-left has promoted luck egalitarianism that emphasizes that the achievement of equality requires personal responsibility in areas in control by the individual person through their abilities and talents and social responsibility in areas outside of control by the individual person in their abilities or talents.[3]
The centre-left opposes a wide gap between the rich and the poor and supports moderate measures to reduce the gap, such as a progressive income tax, laws prohibiting child labour, minimum wage laws, laws regulating working conditions, limits on working hours, laws to ensure workers' right to organize.[2] The centre-left, unlike the far-left, typically claims that equality of outcome is not possible (sometimes not even desirable), but that equal opportunity improves social equality in society.[2]
In Europe, the centre-left includes social democrats, social liberals, greens, progressives and also some democratic socialists. Some social liberals are described as centre-left, but also a lot of social liberals are in the centre of the political spectrum.[4][5]
NOW FOR THE CENTRE-RIGHT :
Centre-right
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The centre-right also referred to as the moderate right, describes adherence to views leaning to the right but closer to the centre on the left-right political spectrum than other right-wing variants.
From the 1830s to the 1880s, there was a shift in the Western world of social class structure and the economy, moving away from the nobility and mercantilism, and moving towards the bourgeoisie and capitalism.[1] This general economic shift towards capitalism affected centre-right movements such as the British Conservative Party that responded by becoming supportive of capitalism.[2]
The International Democrat Union, an alliance of centre-right political parties, including the British Conservative Party, the Republican Party of the United States, the Liberal Party of Australia, Christian democratic parties, amongst others across the world, is committed to the principles that "democratic societies provide individuals throughout the world with the best conditions for political liberty, personal freedom, equality of opportunity and economic development under the rule of law; and therefore being committed to advancing the social and political values on which democratic societies are founded, including the basic personal freedoms and human rights, as defined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; in particular, the right of free speech, organisation, assembly and non-violent dissent; the right to free elections and the freedom to organise effective parliamentary opposition to government; the right to a free and independent media; the right to religious belief; equality before the law; and individual opportunity and prosperity
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I don't see anything wrong with either. Do you?
LMAO!! Just as I said, socialism is left of center, not right!
Dale

United States

#173107 Sep 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
The key words are ignorance and denial.
Another key word is hypocrisy. It was such a great idea when proposed by the Heritage Foundation and it is anti-American, destroy-the-country socialism when implemented under a Democratic administration.
The individual mandate was proposed in "the Heritage Plan" in 1989.
"2) Mandate all households to obtain adequate insurance."
Nobody called it socialism then.
<quoted text>
LMAO!!! Assumptions are just that!
Dale

United States

#173108 Sep 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
So, it was anti-communist. Does that mean that Russia was not socialist, as Italy purportedly was?
Is the People's Republic of China really TRE People's Republic? All theirs? LMAO (Dale tm reg'd)
Is the Democratic Republic of the Congo really a Democratic Republic?
Are you beginning to understand, now, the slogan "What's in a name?"
LMAO!!! Communism and socialism are both left of center, I have proved you wrong with your statement that Nazis were the far right.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173109 Sep 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, only one person arrived by air - an alien. You really think a four-day-old child was flying by himself?
<quoted text>
What? He was wrapped securely, placed in a box and shipped!
Dale

United States

#173110 Sep 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Laughing at you? Absolutely
LMAO!!! No! I am laughing at you, "Billie Boy"!!!
Learn to Read

United States

#173111 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! No! I am laughing at you, "Billie Boy"!!!
Another Birfoon projecting .... Sorry Dufus - I don't play that way. You'll need to do your shopping elsewhere

Maybe you can find done "buddies" at the Playlaw School
Dale

United States

#173112 Sep 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Another Birfoon projecting .... Sorry Dufus - I don't play that way. You'll need to do your shopping elsewhere
Maybe you can find done "buddies" at the Playlaw School
LMAO!!! I see I have pissed you off, good you must learn not to start fights, "Billie Boy"!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#173113 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! I see I have pissed you off, good you must learn not to start fights, "Billie Boy"!
Careful Dale, this is his way of hitting on you. Next, he'll be asking you out for a drink!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173114 Sep 27, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Communism and socialism are both left of center, I have proved you wrong with your statement that Nazis were the far right.
Poor gormless zero. Read, from Wikipedia, specially the last words. " Nazis (including neo-Nazis) and fascists.": Are you finished acting the class dunce? If your teacher tells you in no uncertain terms that 1+ 1 = 2, don't argue with him/her.

Left–right politics

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The left–right political spectrum is a system of classifying political positions, ideologies and parties. Left-wing politics and right-wing politics are often presented as opposed, although a particular individual or group may take a left-wing stance on one matter and a right-wing stance on another. In France, where the terms originated, the Left has been called "the party of movement" and the Right "the party of order."[1][2][3][4] The intermediate stance is called centrism and a person with such a position is a moderate.

There is general consensus that the Left includes progressives, communists, social-liberals, greens, social-democrats, socialists, democratic-socialists, civil-libertarians (as in "social-libertarians "; not to be confused with the right's "economic-libertarians "), secularists, and anarchists,[5][6][7][8] and that the Right includes conservatives, reactionaries, neoconservatives, capitalists, neoliberals, economic-libertarians (not to be confused with the left's "civil-libertarians" ), social-authoritarians, monarchists, theocrats, nationalists, Nazis (including neo-Nazis) and fascists.[9]

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#173116 Sep 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
What? He was wrapped securely, placed in a box and shipped!
ONE came by air, not your phoney numbers, what was it, 334 for which I'm still waiing for proof. ONE, not your made-up numbers. And your trying to be funny to wiggle out of your absurdities (placed in a box and shipped!) is pathetic. An even slightly smarter person would've kept quiet, but it seems you don't mind self-clownstomping. You're a fool, you know that?

"Can you hear us coming?". LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Like those funny and noisy goose-stepping Nazi drill-robot soldiers in the stage presentation of Evita.

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