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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#172799 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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That is your opinion. I don't agree with it BUT I respect it as it is as good as mine and the main thing is you display what so many other Christians don't : tolerance and respect. Thank you.
The pleasure is mine!

Thank You!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172800 Sep 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Your comprehension of the English language isn't what you think it is. Really. You're looking at yourself! How do you like it? Didn't think you'd answer. Are you good for anything? Oh, that's right, you're one hell of an apologist!
My stating that my English is better than yours (though I never said it as such) certainly does not mean it's any good, as pitting it against yours is totally ridiculous and brings the whole concept to the lowest common denominator. Clear enough^
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172801 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
My stating that my English is better than yours (though I never said it as such) certainly does not mean it's any good, as pitting it against yours is totally ridiculous and brings the whole concept to the lowest common denominator. Clear enough^
The proof is in the pudding, or in this case, the posting. And yes it is painfully clear your English sux. How do you like the image in the mirror? I must have missed your reply. No comment on your boy flip-flopping either, huh? Figures. You amount to zilch!
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#172802 Sep 24, 2013
Imperial Constantinian Christian elites ( Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Hagee ) do not believe in the separation of church and state. Since Constantine’s conversion a terrible co-joining of the church and state was institutionalized.

The Republican right wing fascist party has implemented an imperial Constantinian fundamentalist empire.( Phony Christians )

They believe in the prosperity gospel, market spirituality, money-obsessed churches, tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans even after September 11, 2001 and in a time of war.
Bush fascist Republicans want to do away with all government social justice programs.

Constantine himself flouted his piety even as he continued to dominate and conquer peoples. Sound familiar?( George “W”rong Bush )

These Bush fascist fundamentalist Republicans are all drunk drinking the Rush “From Drugs” Lying Corporatist Limbaugh ( Kool-Aid )

Newt Gingrich and his neo-con Republicans took control of Congress back in 1994 to 2006. 12 straight years.

When Bush stole the election in 2000 most of his 8 years he had a Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Governors of most States and Republicans in most State Houses all across America.

Plus the Supreme Court has been Rightwing Republican for decades.

The Republican party could have overturned Roe v. Wade for many years and they did not do it.

Republicans need that issue for votes so I believe they will never undo Roe vs. Wade.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172803 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Dale and Rogue have a problem with appellations. Indeed, Hitler was as much a socialist as the Democratic Republic of the Congo is Democratic and for the People, as socialist as the People's Republic of China is a Republic FOR the people and as socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is Democratic and the People's.
Dumbness is incurable.
And then the German Democratic Republic.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172804 Sep 24, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't buy things that I can not pay for, like our Government does!
I do without, maybe the Government should try that!
Hell, we can't afford the usurpers wagyu steak, much less his seemingly endless vacations.
Again, is refusal to pay your debts a means to lower debt?
Where in my post do I say that? No where, Do I?
Nobody cares what Tacky cannot afford. Nearly all Americans who have purchased houses did not pay cash. I knew a guy (now deceased) who borrowed the money from the local bank to buy a machine. Eventually he had the biggest machine shop in town with many employees and charitable causes. Even big successful companies carry some debt. The notion that a government should emulate a sorry-assed loser living in a halfway house is ridiculous.
wojar wrote:
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Again, is refusal to pay your debts a means to lower debt?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172806 Sep 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, the government will only shut down if 1) the Senate does not pass the House's bill and 2) Obama does not veto it. The Democrats control both the Senate and the White House so it will be their fault if the government shuts down.
In 1995 Bill Clinton vetoed a budget and shut down the government. All the Congress did is re-vote on the same Bill and Bill signed it and government resumed!
Remember our pesky little Constitution that says all spending bill start in the House!!! They have done their part and it is up to the Senate and the Prez. to do their part.
Nope it will be the Republican's fault for putting in a poison pill.

Sorry.

"The chamber's top two Republicans, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and Senate Minority Whip John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Monday that they will not vote with Cruz on Wednesday, a clear signal that there are the 60 votes necessary to move forward with the debate on the spending bill."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2...

Sorry.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Cool, Republicans threaten to shut down the government if they don't get their way and if the government is shut down due to their shenanigans it means Obama did it.
Nope.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#172808 Sep 24, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Off-topic, unless you think Ted Cruz is a liberal loafer.
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wojar wrote:
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Again, is refusal to pay your debts a means to lower debt?
It's only off topic because you brought it up. Ted Cruz is doing his best to do what he was elected to do. Ted Cruz is doing what the people want him to do and what is in the best interest of our country. Obama however does not care care about what is best for our country.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172809 Sep 24, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
Imperial Constantinian Christian elites ( Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Hagee ) do not believe in the separation of church and state. Since Constantine’s conversion a terrible co-joining of the church and state was institutionalized.
The Republican right wing fascist party has implemented an imperial Constantinian fundamentalist empire.( Phony Christians )
They believe in the prosperity gospel, market spirituality, money-obsessed churches, tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans even after September 11, 2001 and in a time of war.
Bush fascist Republicans want to do away with all government social justice programs.
Constantine himself flouted his piety even as he continued to dominate and conquer peoples. Sound familiar?( George “W”rong Bush )
These Bush fascist fundamentalist Republicans are all drunk drinking the Rush “From Drugs” Lying Corporatist Limbaugh ( Kool-Aid )
Newt Gingrich and his neo-con Republicans took control of Congress back in 1994 to 2006. 12 straight years.
When Bush stole the election in 2000 most of his 8 years he had a Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Governors of most States and Republicans in most State Houses all across America.
Plus the Supreme Court has been Rightwing Republican for decades.
The Republican party could have overturned Roe v. Wade for many years and they did not do it.
Republicans need that issue for votes so I believe they will never undo Roe vs. Wade.
Nice piece of fiction. LMAO! What the "truth" does to these gum-flappers is quite humorous. This one here, well, those gums sure do a lot of flapping. Reminds me of an old hag. Hmm?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172811 Sep 24, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
Well, he won't be the first Canadian American president. Arthur, was it not?

Incidentally, he holds dual nationality. Did you and your birther friends not say that was a no-no presidential-wise?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172812 Sep 24, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
Imperial Constantinian Christian elites ( Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, Hagee ) do not believe in the separation of church and state. Since Constantine’s conversion a terrible co-joining of the church and state was institutionalized.
The Republican right wing fascist party has implemented an imperial Constantinian fundamentalist empire.( Phony Christians )
They believe in the prosperity gospel, market spirituality, money-obsessed churches, tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans even after September 11, 2001 and in a time of war.
Bush fascist Republicans want to do away with all government social justice programs.
Constantine himself flouted his piety even as he continued to dominate and conquer peoples. Sound familiar?( George “W”rong Bush )
These Bush fascist fundamentalist Republicans are all drunk drinking the Rush “From Drugs” Lying Corporatist Limbaugh ( Kool-Aid )
Newt Gingrich and his neo-con Republicans took control of Congress back in 1994 to 2006. 12 straight years.
When Bush stole the election in 2000 most of his 8 years he had a Republican House, Republican Senate, Republican Governors of most States and Republicans in most State Houses all across America.
Plus the Supreme Court has been Rightwing Republican for decades.
The Republican party could have overturned Roe v. Wade for many years and they did not do it.
Republicans need that issue for votes so I believe they will never undo Roe vs. Wade.
Brilliant, and I didn't think you'd come out, but then so rightfully so, with a Constantine analogy. You can bet LRS didn't get any of that, he'll mention "gum flapping". but it's his only retort.

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#172813 Sep 24, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Congress should have held Obama's feet to the fire.
I would prefer Kenyan-born Obama be waterboarded or at least polygraphed. Impeach the Antichrist!

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#172814 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, he won't be the first Canadian American president. Arthur, was it not?
Incidentally, he holds dual nationality. Did you and your birther friends not say that was a no-no presidential-wise?
You are correct. Arthur's father was an Irishman to boot. Hence Chester Arthur was our first illegal prez. Kenyan-born Antichrist Obama is #2 in every sense. Eph6:12
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172815 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant, and I didn't think you'd come out, but then so rightfully so, with a Constantine analogy. You can bet LRS didn't get any of that, he'll mention "gum flapping". but it's his only retort.
Actually, I told him that was a nice piece of fiction. LMAO!
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#172816 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant, and I didn't think you'd come out, but then so rightfully so, with a Constantine analogy. You can bet LRS didn't get any of that, he'll mention "gum flapping". but it's his only retort.
I just try to call it as I see it and let the chips fall where they may.
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#172817 Sep 24, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>I would prefer Kenyan-born Obama be waterboarded or at least polygraphed. Impeach the Antichrist!
I would wager any amount of money that every rightwinger on TV and Radio would fail a poly test.

Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#172818 Sep 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice piece of fiction. LMAO! What the "truth" does to these gum-flappers is quite humorous. This one here, well, those gums sure do a lot of flapping. Reminds me of an old hag. Hmm?
The TRUTH is always stranger than fiction!

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http://fora.tv/2008/04/28/Natl_Press_Club_Lec...
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#172819 Sep 24, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice piece of fiction. LMAO! What the "truth" does to these gum-flappers is quite humorous. This one here, well, those gums sure do a lot of flapping. Reminds me of an old hag. Hmm?
No other future Supreme Court or any court is allowed to use Bush v Gore as precedent. Bush is truly an illegitimate President. http://tinyurl.com/2ps3e3
George W. Bush's January 20, 2001 inauguration was unconstitutional. This isn't because Bush lost the popular vote. Nor is it because he lost Florida and thus the electoral vote. The U.S. Supreme Court's decision to hear the Florida recount lawsuit, Bush v. Gore, violated the U.S. Constitution. It's a states' rights issue. Elections fall under state law; the highest court that may resolve a legal challenge about an election is a state supreme court. The U.S. Supreme Court--a federal body--didn't have jurisdiction in the case.
http://yalelawjournal.org/2006/11/07/flanders...

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Has Bush v. Gore Become the Case That Must Not Be Named?
August 15, 2006 / http://tinyurl.com/qbx2s
At a law school Supreme Court conference that I attended last fall, there was a panel on “The Rehnquist Court.” No one mentioned Bush v. Gore, the most historic case of William Rehnquist’s time as chief justice, and during the Q. and A. no one asked about it. When I asked a prominent law professor about this strange omission, he told me he had been invited to participate in another Rehnquist retrospective, and was told in advance that Bush v. Gore would not be discussed.
The ruling that stopped the Florida recount and handed the presidency to George W. Bush is disappearing down the legal world’s version of the memory hole, the slot where, in George Orwell’s “1984,” government workers disposed of politically inconvenient records. The Supreme Court has not cited it once since it was decided, and when Justice Antonin Scalia, who loves to hold forth on court precedents, was asked about it at a forum earlier this year, he snapped,“Come on, get over it.”
There is a legal argument for pushing Bush v. Gore aside. The majority opinion announced that the ruling was “limited to the present circumstances” and could not be cited as precedent. But many legal scholars insisted at the time that this assertion was itself dictum — the part of a legal opinion that is nonbinding — and illegitimate, because under the doctrine of stare decisis, courts cannot make rulings whose reasoning applies only to a single case. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/opinion/15t...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#172820 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Brilliant, and I didn't think you'd come out, but then so rightfully so, with a Constantine analogy. You can bet LRS didn't get any of that, he'll mention "gum flapping". but it's his only retort.
Yours flap like a set of chattering teeth (without the teeth)!
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#172821 Sep 24, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>I would prefer Kenyan-born Obama be waterboarded or at least polygraphed. Impeach the Antichrist!
The "born-in-Kenya" myth is the nuttiest of all birther stories.

Only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 according to the INS, and all but one of them came by SEA--meaning by ship. And there were no direct ships from Kenya to Hawaii in 1961. And the Kenyan government has said that it checked, and that Obama was not born there. And, guess what, birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother even had a passport in 1961. And very very few 18-year-olds had a passport in 1961, and the birth certificate of Hawaii (confirmed by the officials of both parties) says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital---which, BTW, did exist in 1961.

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