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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#172753 Sep 24, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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The Egyptians are not Arab and never were Muslim back in that time.
They were pagans similar to the Romans and Greeks.
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Matthew 6:25-33
25 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?[g] 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying,‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
God sakes man.

Egyptians? Even if we wanted to go back that far there is no evidence that I know of that supports Jewish slavery in Egypt.

Antisemitism came about in 1096. The Jews back then had a financial upper hand because they aren't religiously bound against moneylending as Christians are...were...are supposed to be.

They had nice homes in the Rhineland. Until the French and German Christians decided that they were responsible for the death of Jesus. Never mind that they are holding a book that tells them he was tried, found guilty and executed by Romans who used Roman nails and Roman wood. Judas was enough.

Anyhow, when the Crusaders were gearing up... they borrowed the money from the Jews. Conveniently enough, by rioting against the people who financed the crusade, they not only got to slay evil... but they were no longer in debt! Both Biblically sound principals.

Indeed. They financed the beginning of the Crusade that they were the target of.

Now... who ya gonna trust?
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As for the Egyptians they didn't need slaves.

They had believers. You don't think that sort of craftsmanship comes about by forced labor do you?

Their spiritual fates were tied to the living Gods they called pharaohs. They built for God. It was worship.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#172754 Sep 24, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush Republicans are antidemocratic with an attraction to authoritarianism.
Liberals are always trying to enfranchise citizens and Bush Republicans always try to block some citizens from voting.( BLACKS & Latinos )!
Liberals defend the Constitution and long standing institutions like Social Security and Medicare.
Bush Republicans want the USA to go back to the Gilded Age and privatize Social Security and undo “The New Deal”!
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Former Top Judge Says US Risks Edging Near to Dictatorship
Bush Republicans Dangerous To USA Democracy
· Sandra Day O'Connor warns of rightwing attacks
· Lawyers 'must speak up' to protect judiciary
http://tinyurl.com/24l3fb / March 13, 2006
Sandra Day O'Connor, a Republican-appointed judge who retired last month after 24 years on the supreme court, has said the US is in danger of edging towards dictatorship if the party's rightwingers continue to attack the judiciary.
In a strongly worded speech at Georgetown University, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, Ms O'Connor took aim at Republican leaders whose repeated denunciations of the courts for alleged liberal bias could, she said, be contributing to a climate of violence against judges.
Ms O'Connor, nominated by Ronald Reagan as the first woman supreme court justice, declared: "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary."
She pointed to autocracies in the developing world and former Communist countries as lessons on where interference with the judiciary might lead. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom", and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up.
She noted death threats against judges were on the rise and added that the situation was not helped by a senior senator's suggestion that there might be a connection between the violence against judges and the decisions they make.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi...
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"We can have democracy in this country or we can have great concentrated wealth in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."
--Louis Brandeis / Supreme Court Justice / 1941
"The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it."
--Edward Dowling
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
--Benito Mussolini
14 Points of Fascism
http://tinyurl.com/2dfewwu
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - 2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4.) Supremacy of the Military - 5.) Rampant Sexism - 6.) Controlled Mass Media
7.) Obsession with National Security - 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined - 9.) Corporate Power is Protected:- 10.) Labor Power is Suppressed:- 11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment - 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - 14. Fraudulent Elections:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/antifascism...
LMAO!!! The US is a Constitutional Republic, last time I checked.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#172755 Sep 24, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush Republicans are antidemocratic with an attraction to authoritarianism.
Liberals are always trying to enfranchise citizens and Bush Republicans always try to block some citizens from voting.( BLACKS & Latinos )!
Liberals defend the Constitution and long standing institutions like Social Security and Medicare.
Bush Republicans want the USA to go back to the Gilded Age and privatize Social Security and undo “The New Deal”!
==========
Former Top Judge Says US Risks Edging Near to Dictatorship
Bush Republicans Dangerous To USA Democracy
· Sandra Day O'Connor warns of rightwing attacks
· Lawyers 'must speak up' to protect judiciary
http://tinyurl.com/24l3fb / March 13, 2006
Sandra Day O'Connor, a Republican-appointed judge who retired last month after 24 years on the supreme court, has said the US is in danger of edging towards dictatorship if the party's rightwingers continue to attack the judiciary.
In a strongly worded speech at Georgetown University, reported by National Public Radio and the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin, Ms O'Connor took aim at Republican leaders whose repeated denunciations of the courts for alleged liberal bias could, she said, be contributing to a climate of violence against judges.
Ms O'Connor, nominated by Ronald Reagan as the first woman supreme court justice, declared: "We must be ever-vigilant against those who would strong-arm the judiciary."
She pointed to autocracies in the developing world and former Communist countries as lessons on where interference with the judiciary might lead. "It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings."
Such threats, Ms O'Connor said, "pose a direct threat to our constitutional freedom", and she told the lawyers in her audience: "I want you to tune your ears to these attacks ... You have an obligation to speak up.
She noted death threats against judges were on the rise and added that the situation was not helped by a senior senator's suggestion that there might be a connection between the violence against judges and the decisions they make.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi...
-----
"We can have democracy in this country or we can have great concentrated wealth in the hands of a few, but we cannot have both."
--Louis Brandeis / Supreme Court Justice / 1941
"The two greatest obstacles to democracy in the United States are, first, the widespread delusion among the poor that we have a democracy, and second, the chronic terror among the rich, lest we get it."
--Edward Dowling
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
--Benito Mussolini
14 Points of Fascism
http://tinyurl.com/2dfewwu
1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - 2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4.) Supremacy of the Military - 5.) Rampant Sexism - 6.) Controlled Mass Media
7.) Obsession with National Security - 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined - 9.) Corporate Power is Protected:- 10.) Labor Power is Suppressed:- 11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment - 13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - 14. Fraudulent Elections:
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/antifascism...
LMAO!!! Well, what about Matthew 6:25-33, "Don't worry be happy"!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#172756 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
How much time do you spend looking for this kind of cheap crap? Do you open your machine each morning, rush to Google and type :
"ANY news pertaining to rumours, scandals or purported scandals, true or false, matters not, on, not necessarily in that order, Dem party, Obama, the two Clintons, Biden, Bloomberg, Kerry and his PT boat, and any other liberal/progressive/democrat/s ocialist anti-gun person. Also, bad-taste birther beer fest-Cletus-kind sexist-sexual and gay anal jokes if available.
All of the above will once more make you the toast of Birtherland. You'll be sure to obtain high Topix ratings from your birther and gun-toting peers.
You're ping off the walls this morning. How many cups of coffee have you had?
Dale

Wichita, KS

#172757 Sep 24, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
LOOK!... Another guy who hasn't the foggiest idea what fascism means.
Far left is communism.
Far right is fascism.
Know your left from your right?
LMAO!!! If that were the case why was Hitler the head god monarch of the National Socialist Party, socialism is on the left.
As we all know the democrat party is just a front for the socialist, Marxist and Communist parties, they all support the DNC.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#172758 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
How much time do you spend looking for this kind of cheap crap? Do you open your machine each morning, rush to Google and type :
"ANY news pertaining to rumours, scandals or purported scandals, true or false, matters not, on, not necessarily in that order, Dem party, Obama, the two Clintons, Biden, Bloomberg, Kerry and his PT boat, and any other liberal/progressive/democrat/s ocialist anti-gun person. Also, bad-taste birther beer fest-Cletus-kind sexist-sexual and gay anal jokes if available.
All of the above will once more make you the toast of Birtherland. You'll be sure to obtain high Topix ratings from your birther and gun-toting peers.
LMAO!!! Yep, a picture is worth a thousand words!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172759 Sep 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
He does not seem to care that Canada's gun registry never solved any crimes.
<quoted text>
Hummm, can't think of a rebuttal to my statement, can you!
Yep, and if you remove crimes caused by blacks in the U.S., our crime rate looks a lot like yours. No rebuttal there either.
As for Canadians not tipping at the same level as Americans, it is a personal observation.
Where's your proof? On both scores? You still haven't submitted a thing on tipping or gun homicide differentials. It's all from your wild imagination, and you convince yourself that it's true. You are the biggest fraud and bullshi**er alive and what's worse, is once your deviant and perverted racist ideas have finished circulating and come back to you, it all becomes gospel. How pathetic, your kind of sick world, chiming in on subjects you know squat about but never failing to add your xenophobic slant.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172760 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

<quoted text>
In many a case, it does. And it seems that the most ignorant members of the conservative party are the dumbest. Why's that and why do they share this trait with American conservatives?
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!! Hitler was a socialist, just like you.
Kindly explain the relevance, please.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172761 Sep 24, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
The Egyptians are not Arab and never were Muslim back in that time.
They were pagans similar to the Romans and Greeks.
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Matthew 6:25-33
25 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?[g] 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying,‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
Matthew 6:25-33
Yes, Matthew 6:25-33
Yes, Matthew teaches how to become a true welfare family. Consider :
25. Don' work, don't worry about your body, food, drink. Let others worry;
26. Look at the birds. They're pretty, and don't do a thing yet the Heavenly father feeds them (read : the real workers and taxpayers feed the citizens on the dole). How quaint. Comment: Appears Matthew was not a very keen student of things aviary. Birds do gather their on food (ever heard of "early bird gets the worm," Matt?") and genially build their nests, feed their offspring mouth-to-mouth..
27. By being anxious and making progresses in medicine and drugs, we have gone from life expectancies of 25 t 80 years. Medicine was not Matthew's strong point either, he should have consulted Mark;
28. What, no clothing? We can all appear nude in public now? Even in church? I though nakedness was a sin...
29. Solomon need not have been arrayed in any kind of clothing, as, with 500 wives and 500 concubines, we can only assume that to be up to the task (pun fully intended) the old perv would've needed to be naked at all times LMAO(LRS tm reg'd)
30. Again with the clothing...
31. Again, telling the people not to work and let others take care of their needs..
32. Again, not to worry about food and drink, we'll invent food stamps and soup kitchen;
33. Seek the Kingdom of God? Where's that? How do I go about that?
Nothing personal, I know you know that. Just my humble opinion.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172762 Sep 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
I heard that Obama has named all of his golf balls and has their names written on them. Like Halliburton, Bush, Cheney, Palin, Hillary, etc.!
<quoted text>
Lame response. Go back to bed.
Sorry, I know the truth often hurts. "Mission accomplished". Never ever forget those god-forsaken words, Rogue.

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Since: Jul 12

The internet

#172763 Sep 24, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! If that were the case why was Hitler the head god monarch of the National Socialist Party, socialism is on the left.
As we all know the democrat party is just a front for the socialist, Marxist and Communist parties, they all support the DNC.
Because socialist doesn't always mean socialism.

Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th century German Nazi Party and state as well as other related far-right groups. Usually characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism, Nazism originally developed from the influences of pan-Germanism, the Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture in post-First World War Germany, which many Germans felt had been left humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles.

Fascism right.
Communism left.

Let me know if you are still having trouble.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#172764 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
In many a case, it does. And it seems that the most ignorant members of the conservative party are the dumbest. Why's that and why do they share this trait with American conservatives?
<quoted text>
Kindly explain the relevance, please.
LMAO!!! Even you should be able to understand that. Now would you like to explain what you don't understand? Then we might be able to help you.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172765 Sep 24, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Because socialist doesn't always mean socialism.
Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th century German Nazi Party and state as well as other related far-right groups. Usually characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism, Nazism originally developed from the influences of pan-Germanism, the Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture in post-First World War Germany, which many Germans felt had been left humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles.
Fascism right.
Communism left.
Let me know if you are still having trouble.
Dale and Rogue have a problem with appellations. Indeed, Hitler was as much a socialist as the Democratic Republic of the Congo is Democratic and for the People, as socialist as the People's Republic of China is a Republic FOR the people and as socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea is Democratic and the People's.

Dumbness is incurable.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#172766 Sep 24, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
In many a case, it does. And it seems that the most ignorant members of the conservative party are the dumbest. Why's that and why do they share this trait with American conservatives?
Oh, you do know that there is no Conservative Party in the U.S., don't you?
OMG, I will take that back, there is an American Conservative Party, which should not be confused with the Republican Party.
http://americanconservativeparty.com/

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#172767 Sep 24, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Because socialist doesn't always mean socialism.
Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th century German Nazi Party and state as well as other related far-right groups. Usually characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism, Nazism originally developed from the influences of pan-Germanism, the Völkisch German nationalist movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary culture in post-First World War Germany, which many Germans felt had been left humiliated by the Treaty of Versailles.
Fascism right.
Communism left.
Let me know if you are still having trouble.
Sorry, Nazism is FAR LEFT. The only difference between Communism and Fascism is that under Communism everything is owned by the state whereas under Fascism they tell businesses what to do.
Ultra right is Libertarianism which is minimal government.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172768 Sep 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, Nazism is FAR LEFT. The only difference between Communism and Fascism is that under Communism everything is owned by the state whereas under Fascism they tell businesses what to do.
Ultra right is Libertarianism which is minimal government.
Do you know what that kind of reasoning would get you grade-wise in Grade 6 politics? F- and more corner time with a yet new dunce hat, the old ones wearing out faster and faster from constant giant-head wear.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172769 Sep 24, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>You can lower your debt by not buying anything you can't afford to pay for. Credit cards were not designed to accommodate deadbeats or liberal loafers who believe themselves to be morally above paying their own way. Liberals in fact have no morals,values or principles that allow them to function or they believe that society owes them a living.
Off-topic, unless you think Ted Cruz is a liberal loafer.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, is refusal to pay your debts a means to lower debt?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#172770 Sep 24, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, you do know that there is no Conservative Party in the U.S., don't you?
OMG, I will take that back, there is an American Conservative Party, which should not be confused with the Republican Party.
http://americanconservativeparty.com/
Oh, I had stopped asking this question a long time ago, but gave up, as no reply was coming. Here goes again. Since 1900, which Republican president was a true conservative and not a country clubber? Name one conservative Republican president since 1900, please.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172771 Sep 24, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!! Don't know about you, but I insure I can pay my card debt, this way I don't need to extend my line of credit and if you can't pay your debt why ask for an extended line of credit.
I get it, I might win the lotto.
Which has nothing to do with the debt limit analogy. Again, extending the debt limit effectively allows payment for money previously borrowed. By congress extending the debt limit Uncle Sam isn't begging a creditor to up his credit line, it has to do with paying back what already was borrowed. Duh!
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>If you refuse to pay your credit card company because the debt is too high do you think that will lower your debt?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#172772 Sep 24, 2013
Joe OBiden wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then all Obama has to do is sign what ever bill Congress passes. If he vetoes it, HE shuts down the government just like Bill Clinton did in 1995!!!
Cool, Republicans threaten to shut down the government if they don't get their way and if the government is shut down due to their shenanigans it means Obama did it.

Nope.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's news? Failure to raise debt ceiling will cause default. Playing chicken with debt ceiling already resulted in a prior downgrade but that doesn't matter to Ted Cruz

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