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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#170307 Sep 3, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>ACTUALLY DNA in women can be traced back to Eve in the Garden of Eden but in men it can only be traced back to Noah and his sons on the Ark.
Jesus is Lord. Kenyan-born Obama is the Antichrist.
The so-called "mitochondrial Eve" has nothing to do with any mythical garden. There are autosomal alleles for which most recent common ancestors (MRCA) are much older and from many different locations.

The DNA evidence conclusively rules out an extreme bottleneck such as Noah. Furthermore, the Y-chromosome data could identify that some individual was a common ancestor to all living males, but it is a MRCA,found in a statistical analysis, not a particular individual who could possibly be identified. In any event, there are MRCA for certain autosomal alleles that are very old, way older than the biblical Noah.

Sorry.
wojar wrote:
But you can keep the blinders on and have faith that the Divine Merry Prankster, the Deceptive Deity, created Adam & Eve with DNA that merely made it look like evolution.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#170308 Sep 3, 2013
Hey, did anyone noticed what happened to the NYSE at about 1120 am EDT? It took a DIVE! Why, well Speaker Bonehead and Mitch "Miller" McConnell said they would recommend that Congress support the president on his Syria Miss-adventure.
Yep, the stock market does not like it, the majority of Americans do not like it, the the entrenched politicians like it and that is all that counts!!!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170309 Sep 3, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
How come know-nothings don't know how stupid they are in spite of the fact that everyone keeps reminding them? And how come they've been using ad hominem for so long before they had even seen the word, much less understood it?
Scenario or parable for LRS, hoping he's quicker on the comprehension side than the apostle :
LRS comes to a red light. He stops. Light is long, oh so long. LRS starts to think (oh oh, dangerous), law says I cannot cross the intersection if the light is red. But, could that not be open to interpretation? Just like God who created man in His Image? Yes, by gum, nowhere does it say I can't go ahead, drive on red, if I do it slowly - law doesn't say I can't drive across slowly. Yup, interpretation, it's "spot on" (LRS tm reg'd).
I repeat, for the stupid, "in his image" is not defined in the Bible. But, hold everything, our token psycho knows "how" it was intended to be understood. That is a load of garbage.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170310 Sep 3, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, Mr LRS, tell us who said or wrote that God created man in His own Image and where he got it from. Go ahead. What? You have no idea? Neither has anyone. And, you believe it?
It was written by one of the founder population! LMAO
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#170311 Sep 3, 2013
Just Sayin wrote:
From "The Obama Timeline"
It is said that Dunham and Obama, Sr. visited his homeland of Kenya at the beginning of their long summer break from the University and that Obama was born in Africa.As the summer progressed, the airlines would not have allowed a very pregnant Dunham fly all the way back to Hawaii, and Dunham therefore would have given birth in Kenya.
Dunham’s high school classmate Susan Blake recalls that during a 1961 visit to Seattle Dunham was excited about her husband’s plans to return to Kenya. Blake does not indicate whether Dunham was going to Kenya with her husband, but it is not illogical to believe that the newlyweds would travel together to Obama Sr.’s homeland in order for Dunham to “meet the parents,” with the trip taking place over the summer when university classes were not in session.
It is also said that Obama's Kenya relatives were not too happy to see him bring home a white wife.
It is also said that the entire "Born in Kenya" story is false. And that saying is absolutely TRUE. Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961? And did you know that all but one of them came BY SEA (by ship)---and that there were no regular ships from Kenya to Hawaii, or vice versa, in 1961. And, did you know that the government of Kenya said that it investigated the "born in Kenya" story and that it is FALSE.

The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.

Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.

“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170312 Sep 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? If you wish to remain willfully ignorant that is your right; it is NOT my problem. You can resolve the problem that your fables are in conflict with the evidence by closing your eyes. Again, that is not my problem.
It is truly curious that anyone would cling to their cherished fable with no evidence in the face of conclusive evidence to the contrary. The population bottleneck evidence DISPROVES the Adam & Eve fable. The molecular evidence previously elaborated clearly establishes an ancestor common to humans and chimpanzees. The DNA tells the story.
The believe that fossils of a specific founder population of thousands from millions of years ago should be expected to be found is naive at best, and I'm being very kind. It is certainly not the belief of anyone with any credibility in the sciences.
The vast majority of living things die without leaving fossil remains. Yet they left evidence that can be found in the DNA of living thing on this Earth today. The fossil evidence is strong but the molecular evidence is a dead lock cinch.
Like it or not, your ignorance is your problem, not mine.
<quoted text>
Huh? Do you have a hearing problem? Who has said it was YOUR problem, Twinkie? No one. You make it your problem, that's why I asked if you just had a problem with believers or just people who don't believe like you. Try and keep up. Fossils that are 3.5B years old have been found, you twit! BTW, the majority of the population on Earth believe. Where does that leave you? Right where you reside, on the fringe with the other nutjobs! You're doing an excellent job building that prison. Carry on. LMAO!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#170313 Sep 3, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
Top Ten Congressional Lobbying Scandals in US History
http://blog.oup.com/2006/03/congressional_l/ / http://tinyurl.com/6xdkuf
1. 1857, the New York Times published an expose of lobbying for the Pacific Railroad bill, charging that lobbyists had shaped a bill in order to pillage federal lands. The House opened an investigation that led four representatives to resign (the House also expelled from its galleries the Times reporter who broke the story).
2. 1872, the New York Sun exposed the Credit Mobilier scandal, where a railroad lobbyist provided stock to members of Congress to make them more likely to increase appropriations for transcontinental railroad construction. Both the Senate and House investigated the charges, which ruined the careers of two vice presidents, a Speaker, and other members of both bodies.
3. 1906, Cosmopolitan magazine publishes David Graham Phillips’ series of muckraking exposes on the “Treason of the Senate,” in which he accused prominent senators of representing special interests rather than the public interest. The series contributes to political pressure that results in the Seventeenth Amendment requiring senators to be elected by the public rather than by state legislatures.
4. 1913, the New York World ran an expose of questionable tactics by a lobbyist for the National Association of Manufacturers seeking to influence tariff rates. One member of the House resigned and the House passed a bill requiring lobbyists to register with Congress. The Senate declined to go along with the reform.
5. 1929, the New York World accused Connecticut Senator Hiram Bingham of bringing a paid agent for the Connecticut Manufacturers’ Association into closed committee meetings on a pending tariff bill. The Senate investigated and censured Bingham (previously prominent as the discoverer of Machu Picchu), who was then defeated for reelection.
6. 1962, a Des Moines Register correspondent reported that Senate Majority Secretary Bobby Baker accepted favors from lobbyists in exchange for providing access to powerful senators. A Senate committee investigated and Baker was later convicted of income tax evasion.
7. 1976, the Washington Post broke the story that the Justice Department was investigating South Korean agent Tongsun Park, who had distributed illegal gifts to members of Congress. Congressional investigation of “Koreagate” ended with the reprimand of three members of the House and the indictment of two others.
http://blog.oup.com/2006/03/congressional_l/
8. 1990, accounts in the Orange County Register, the Mesa [Arizona] Tribune, the Detroit News, the Los Angeles Times, the Arizona Republic, and the Wall Street Journal revealed that five senators met with the head of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board about the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, whose head, Charles H. Keating, Jr. had made substantial contributions to their political campaigns. The Senate Ethics Committee investigated the Keating Five, and reprimanded one of them, California Senator Alan Cranston.
9. 2005, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported a bribery scandal involving lobbyists’ gifts and payments to Representative Randy “Duke” Cunningham that led to his resignation from Congress and criminal conviction./ 10. 2005, Washington Post reporters revealed that Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff was the central figure in a congressional corruption scandal, as Justice Department prosecutors investigated him for fraud and bribery allegations./ http://blog.oup.com/2006/03/congressional_l/
Tell me Tootsie, IYHO, are Trade Unions 'Special Interests'? Obama consorted with Trade Unions to deny Delphi non-union employees their pensions and they are suing the U.S. government for $450 Mln and they will probably will and instead of the money being taken away from the Trade Unions, it will be taken away from U.S. taxpayers instead.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#170314 Sep 3, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is also said that the entire "Born in Kenya" story is false. And that saying is absolutely TRUE. Did you know that only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961? And did you know that all but one of them came BY SEA (by ship)---and that there were no regular ships from Kenya to Hawaii, or vice versa, in 1961. And, did you know that the government of Kenya said that it investigated the "born in Kenya" story and that it is FALSE.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications–such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged
How many flights are there today from the U.S. to Kenya? None that are direct But as it is today and can fly between the U.S. via London!!!
In December 1958 I flew from Frankfurt Germany to New York City on a TWA Super Connie prop-job. It took 18 hours with stops in Shannon, Ireland and Gander Newfoundland, Canada. But 1961 most flight across the Atlantic and to Hawaii were by jet but you probably would have taken a prop-job from Kenya to London but it probably would have taken about 36 hours including stops.
Still, very possible. And if the child was on American documents, it would not have been counted as one of the 21 coming from Kenya.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170315 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey, did anyone noticed what happened to the NYSE at about 1120 am EDT? It took a DIVE! Why, well Speaker Bonehead and Mitch "Miller" McConnell said they would recommend that Congress support the president on his Syria Miss-adventure.
Yep, the stock market does not like it, the majority of Americans do not like it, the the entrenched politicians like it and that is all that counts!!!
Hmm, and what happened afterwards? Well, DJIA opened at +50,closed at +25. I can't predict these things, you can't , except the manipulators, and you're not one of them, so just let the roulette wheel spin.

But tell me this : Why the triumphant reaction to the news that the bombing may be on and the DJIA tanked? Whose side are you on anyhow? If Obama bombs, will you support him? If Obama does not bomb, will you support him? Lose-lose for Obama with you, right?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170316 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
It was written by one of the founder population! LMAO
So, you believe unknown authors who supposedly were given the inside track by God himself? Hope you were a good boy so far, Santa knows if you're bad. Lumps of coal for you.

Another parable for LRS :

LRS to no one in particular : "Gosh, this is a good book. So interesting and loaded with facts. It's become my reference, my guide for everything I do ;"

No one in particular : "Hey, that's great. I gotta get for myself. Who wrote it?"

LRS : "I have no idea. Why, is that important?".

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#170317 Sep 3, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
What is “lobbying”?
Historically, it is the process of petitioning the government to look at a perceived injustice or to intervene in special causes.
How should lobbying be defined today? That, argue critics, is up for grabs.
Dating back to the Magna Carta written in 1215, the right "by the people" to petition government was a principle reaffirmed in 1776 in the Declaration of Independence and later in the Bill of Rights.
Petitioning to hear individual grievances was a treasured right in the young American democracy, which gave most citizens a potential active role in how they were governed.
Yet, the sense that those early Americans once had - of having a direct voice in local or national politics - is now arguably a quaint thing of the past.
http://www.chiff.com/society/lobby.htm
And for some reason you dew knot thing trade unions have lobbyists.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/assets_c/2011...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170318 Sep 3, 2013
LRS : I really believe that a true believer is someone who believes in a Supreme Being. I think that believing in the Bible does not a believer make. He is not necessarily a true believer if he believes in the Bible. You believe in the Bible all you want, and that's fine, and honest people respect that, but don't assume that those that don't believe in the Scriptures are non-believers. That is judgemental and even your Bible frowns on people who judge, correct?

Too many "believes" and "believers" in my post, lol.
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#170319 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
And for some reason you dew knot thing trade unions have lobbyists.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/assets_c/2011...
Ronald Reagan started the weakening of our workers unions back in the 1980s because he was loyal to the CEOs who put him in office.

The Millionaires and Billionaires do not need your help.

They already own most of Washington DC.

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After Citizens United, is a different corporate influence our only hope?
Rethinking Ralph Nader's latest book in light of the Supreme Court decision
February 11, 2010 / http://tinyurl.com/7wn42l9
With the recent Supreme Court holding in Citizens United, corporations and unions have first amendment protection to spend directly on political campaigns – at unprecedented levels. This is not the first ruling to protect speech rights for corporations – they also benefit from the Court’s “Noerr-Pennington” doctrine, which exempts them from antitrust laws when they combine to influence legislation.
But Jefferson and company might be quite surprised to learn that “originalists” citing the sanctity of their original intent would let loose upon our government hated British megacorporations of the colonial era, like the Hudson Bay Company, as a “person” with such rights to combine with other companies and win political influence. We live in a world that is increasingly controlled by these horizontal organizations. They, together with labor and professional alliances, dominate Washington and in state capitals. They are euphemized as “stakeholders.”
http://hlrecord.org/...
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#170320 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me Tootsie, IYHO, are Trade Unions 'Special Interests'? Obama consorted with Trade Unions to deny Delphi non-union employees their pensions and they are suing the U.S. government for $450 Mln and they will probably will and instead of the money being taken away from the Trade Unions, it will be taken away from U.S. taxpayers instead.
Stop being an apologist for the wealthy.

Fox News cares and supports Wall Street.

The S&L Crisis: A Chrono-Bibliography
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/s&l/

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ABC News Poll: More Americans Prefer Public Option to Bipartisan Bill
October 30, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/kc6jch2
Fifty one percent said they preferred the public option; 37 percent said they preferred a bill with some support from Republicans in Congress. Six percent said neither and seven percent expressed no opinion.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/...

Most support public option for health insurance, poll finds
October 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/yg4vq9y
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that support for a government-run health-care plan to compete with private insurers has rebounded from its summertime lows and wins clear majority support from the public.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Poll: Key States Greatly Prefer Public Option Over Senate Health Care Plan
06/30/10 / http://tinyurl.com/m6neahs
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/22/Poll_Ke...

Public Support for the Public Option / 6.20.2009 / http://tinyurl.com/m7fynm
A major, though by no means the only, substantive point of debate regarding health care reform is whether the plan considered by Congress will include a "public option" -- a government-run insurance program that would compete with private plans. Barack Obama's plan on the campaign trail included a public option: "any American will have the opportunity to enroll in the new public plan or an approved private plan," it said.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/public...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#170321 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey, did anyone noticed what happened to the NYSE at about 1120 am EDT? It took a DIVE! Why, well Speaker Bonehead and Mitch "Miller" McConnell said they would recommend that Congress support the president on his Syria Miss-adventure.
Yep, the stock market does not like it, the majority of Americans do not like it, the the entrenched politicians like it and that is all that counts!!!
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm, and what happened afterwards? Well, DJIA opened at +50,closed at +25. I can't predict these things, you can't , except the manipulators, and you're not one of them, so just let the roulette wheel spin.
But tell me this : Why the triumphant reaction to the news that the bombing may be on and the DJIA tanked? Whose side are you on anyhow? If Obama bombs, will you support him? If Obama does not bomb, will you support him? Lose-lose for Obama with you, right?
I am on the side of staying out of this civil war. It is of no threat to us or our interests. The real problem is Iran.
How many times did I hear you Libtards we should not have gone into Iraq as the real problem was al-Qaeda who was in Afghanistan and Pakistan. WELL???? If the real problem (threat to the U.S. and our interests), then why worry about Syria?!?
Isn't it funny that when I turn around the argument that you yourselves used, you will still side with the Democrats.
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#170322 Sep 3, 2013
IRAQ: Women Miss Saddam / http://tinyurl.com/ykpudl5
BAGHDAD, Mar 12, 2010 (IPS)- Under Saddam Hussein, women in government got a year's maternity leave; that is now cut to six months. Under the Personal Status Law in force since Jul. 14, 1958, when Iraqis overthrew the British-installed monarchy, Iraqi women had most of the rights that Western women do.

Now they have Article 2 of the Constitution: "Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation." Sub-head A says "No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam." Under this Article the interpretation of women's rights is left to religious leaders – and many of them are under Iranian influence.

"The U.S. occupation has decided to let go of women's rights," Yanar Mohammed who campaigns for women's rights in Iraq says. "Political Islamic groups have taken southern Iraq, are fully in power there, and are using the financial support of Iran to recruit troops and allies. The financial and political support from Iran is why the Iraqis in the south accept this, not because the Iraqi people want Islamic law."
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#170323 Sep 3, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop being an apologist for the wealthy.
Fox News cares and supports Wall Street.
The S&L Crisis: A Chrono-Bibliography
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/historical/s&l/
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ABC News Poll: More Americans Prefer Public Option to Bipartisan Bill
October 30, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/kc6jch2
Fifty one percent said they preferred the public option; 37 percent said they preferred a bill with some support from Republicans in Congress. Six percent said neither and seven percent expressed no opinion.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/...
Most support public option for health insurance, poll finds
October 20, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/yg4vq9y
A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows that support for a government-run health-care plan to compete with private insurers has rebounded from its summertime lows and wins clear majority support from the public.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Poll: Key States Greatly Prefer Public Option Over Senate Health Care Plan
06/30/10 / http://tinyurl.com/m6neahs
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/02/22/Poll_Ke...
Public Support for the Public Option / 6.20.2009 / http://tinyurl.com/m7fynm
A major, though by no means the only, substantive point of debate regarding health care reform is whether the plan considered by Congress will include a "public option" -- a government-run insurance program that would compete with private plans. Barack Obama's plan on the campaign trail included a public option: "any American will have the opportunity to enroll in the new public plan or an approved private plan," it said.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/06/public...
Why do you keep posting out of date polls? We have read ObamaCare now that it has passed and the more people who read it, do not like it!!! Now here is a poll that is less than two months old and done by CBS which is not a right-wing source.

CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want Obamacare repealed / July 24, 2013

(CBS News) A new CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want the Affordable Care Act repealed.

According to the poll, 36 percent of Americans want Congress to expand or keep the health care law while 39 percent want Congress to repeal it - the highest percentage seen in CBS News polls. The poll also found a majority of Americans - 54 percent - disapprove of the health care law, 36 percent of Americans approve of it and 10 percent said they don't know about it.

The health care law is a chronic issue for the White House, CBS News political director John Dickerson said on "CBS This Morning." "There's an operational part to this, which is that the White House has got to get people to sign up for these health exchanges, particularly younger, healthier Americans, and so they are tactically running a campaign much like the presidential campaign, reaching out, using the techniques of that campaign to get younger people to sign up for these health exchanges."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-575952...
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#170324 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hey, did anyone noticed what happened to the NYSE at about 1120 am EDT? It took a DIVE! Why, well Speaker Bonehead and Mitch "Miller" McConnell said they would recommend that Congress support the president on his Syria Miss-adventure.
Yep, the stock market does not like it, the majority of Americans do not like it, the the entrenched politicians like it and that is all that counts!!!
Unbelievable.. when have Americans, particularly right-wingers and Republicans not been enthusiastic

about bombing the hell out of someone.

Remember: " The business of America is War" ...the NRA members paarticularly see it as a vicarious and joyful activity.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#170325 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you keep posting out of date polls? We have read ObamaCare now that it has passed and the more people who read it, do not like it!!! Now here is a poll that is less than two months old and done by CBS which is not a right-wing source.
CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want Obamacare repealed / July 24, 2013
(CBS News) A new CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want the Affordable Care Act repealed.
According to the poll, 36 percent of Americans want Congress to expand or keep the health care law while 39 percent want Congress to repeal it - the highest percentage seen in CBS News polls. The poll also found a majority of Americans - 54 percent - disapprove of the health care law, 36 percent of Americans approve of it and 10 percent said they don't know about it.
The health care law is a chronic issue for the White House, CBS News political director John Dickerson said on "CBS This Morning." "There's an operational part to this, which is that the White House has got to get people to sign up for these health exchanges, particularly younger, healthier Americans, and so they are tactically running a campaign much like the presidential campaign, reaching out, using the techniques of that campaign to get younger people to sign up for these health exchanges."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-575952...
You only polled Republican Congressmen who have the best healthcare plan paid by the taxpayers.

Of course, they don't want any changes..

Why not poll ordinary people
Linktv org

Sayville, NY

#170326 Sep 3, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you keep posting out of date polls? We have read ObamaCare now that it has passed and the more people who read it, do not like it!!! Now here is a poll that is less than two months old and done by CBS which is not a right-wing source.
CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want Obamacare repealed / July 24, 2013
(CBS News) A new CBS News poll finds more Americans than ever want the Affordable Care Act repealed.
According to the poll, 36 percent of Americans want Congress to expand or keep the health care law while 39 percent want Congress to repeal it - the highest percentage seen in CBS News polls. The poll also found a majority of Americans - 54 percent - disapprove of the health care law, 36 percent of Americans approve of it and 10 percent said they don't know about it.
The health care law is a chronic issue for the White House, CBS News political director John Dickerson said on "CBS This Morning." "There's an operational part to this, which is that the White House has got to get people to sign up for these health exchanges, particularly younger, healthier Americans, and so they are tactically running a campaign much like the presidential campaign, reaching out, using the techniques of that campaign to get younger people to sign up for these health exchanges."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-575952...
See the liberal/progressives were 100% right with Single Payer or Public Option.

Obama passed a Republican health care with not one Republican voting for it.

The truth is the truth either back in 2009, 2010, or whatever.

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Grand Illusion: The Myth of Voter Choice in a Two-Party Tyranny
Third-party candidates are effectively shut out of the presidential race by the two major parties designed to squash the competition.

July 7, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/y89nfb7

In the run up to the 2004 elections article after article appeared documenting the reigning chaos in our electoral procedures, and surmising that another “Florida 2000” could happen. After the election, questions were raised in Ohio and in the gubernatorial race in Washington State, but in 2008, the infatuation with the electoral system was otherwise directed to the early primaries and the “historic” potential to elect Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. With neither election as razor-close as the 537 vote discrepancy in Florida 2000, some of the prior attention paid to our electoral systems has waned.

To the extent concern is shown, it tends to focus on the mechanics of registering to vote, keeping accurate lists, and having votes counted by machines of better-than-dubious programming or security. Less concern is directed to the far more disenfranchising systemic problems of having a “winner-take-all” system that results in uncompetitive elections in most congressional and local races. Nor is there a widespread movement toward choice maximizing voting systems, or just better competition by structuring campaign finance systems to encourage participation for more than our millionaires or those who have access to them.

In this country, we are really just at the beginning of understanding the deep flaws with our arcane electoral processes. Virtually none of the attention is on the rights of third-party or independent candidates to compete on a level playing field with the major parties so that all voters, not just two-party voters, have a chance to vote for whom they want. This book is written for third party and Independents candidates, their voters, the election law reformers and chroniclers, and all those who have tried or will try to grapple with the stunning incompetence and injustice of the broken, two-party dominated American electoral system.
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