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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#170274 Sep 2, 2013
But you can keep the blinders on and have faith that the Divine Merry Prankster, the Deceptive Deity, created Adam & Eve with DNA that merely made it look like evolution.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170275 Sep 2, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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I do NOT interpret the phrase. Very straightforward, as straightforward as you get wet when the rain falls on you. What is there to interpret? And why would God not be clear? You mean he can't make himself be understood? He needs earthlings to do that for him - earthlings that I assume are not as smart as him. No interpretation.
But all of the above is moot. It was made up. How did
whoever write that know that God created man in His Image? Who told this "raconteur?"
Bullchit! If you don't find the phrase, "in his image" to be open to interpretation, then you're an idiot. What a load! Common sense has totally escaped you.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170276 Sep 2, 2013
wojar wrote:
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You will disregard the conclusive molecular evidence, chromosomal fusion, GULO pseudogene similarity sharing random mutations and retroelements, CMT1A segments with humans and chimps sharing same truncation in one of the two flanking Alu elementsm. then the glucosere-brosidase data and shared 66 base-pair deletion, etc. etc. etc.
Because the extensive fossil evidence does not suit your false conception that it should be more complete?
All because this evidence contradicts your fable for which there is NO EVIDENCE.
Ah, but it is the "key" that simply hasn't been found. There were many in "your" founder population, where are the remains? Surely, with "many" being present, remains should have been found, no? What you fail to consider is the fact that I haven't said it doesn't exist. Have you? LOL Ask Path, assuming will bite you in the butt everytime. It may well exist, I don't know. Evolution could be part of the Divine Plan, who is to say? Either way it really doesn't affect my belief system one way or the other. One of the truest sayings I've come across is, "you never know". I am curious why you take this personally, though.
Tm Clmns

Victoria, Canada

#170277 Sep 2, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
Obama is going down!!!!
down in history......

he's still far above the Republican candidates/leaders

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#170278 Sep 2, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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Science says the earth is 4.5 Billion years old.
How do you know that?
Maybe only one billion?
Two billon?
Many only Millions?
Yet you think Adam had a Mother.
And even if you are correct so what.
God still created all things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =XdvXS37obEcXX
When I asked you if we found fish on Europa what would it mean to you... You replied that it wouldn't change your beliefs one bit.

So, why can you not accept the age of the Earth, which is grounded in hardcore science? It is not theoretical stuff.

Why would you even attempt to debate it without contradictory evidence? Why can't it be like finding life somewhere else? Why can't evolution be to the greater glory of Yahwey?

Wojar can not ever disprove God. Nor can I. As a matter of fact no one can and no one ever will. It is impossible. And I don't just throw that word around. But then we come back to we can't prove Joey Bagadoughnuts didn't create all.

No matter what we discover, no matter how many mysteries of nature we unravel... there will always be room for people to say God did it.

Has science peeled back a bit of the bible? Certainly. But people have simply changed how they interpret those passages.

The Earth is 4.5 Billion years old give or take 70 million years.

The oldest rocks found are 3.8 and 3.9 billion years old. Which figures in just right. We calculate this from several radiometric dating methods. It isn't like we ran a litmus test on a rock near a geologist house an we came up with 4.5 billion years.

Does this destroy God?

No.

We know it because we have credible evidence from experiment that has been reproduced many many times. And there hasn't been a single person to come up with a different valid scientific answer to the question.

That would get you a Nobel Prize and all the funding you would ever need. So, it is not like there isn't motivation.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#170279 Sep 2, 2013
Linktv org wrote:
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I appreciate and respect science.
I think it was probable that if Adam cut down a tree there would be many, many, many rings inside it.
Also some of the fruit and vegetables might have been rotten and not editable.
So What!
Maybe Adam and Eve were hairy ape-like Humans?
After all Chimps cannot drive airplanes or pass an SAT test.
Something to ponder my friend.
Why are the Muslims, the Christians, and the Jews all waiting for Jesus to come back?
========
Moshiach Facts
Five Questions and Answers About Moshiach
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/ai...
Resurrection of the Dead
Moshiach Facts, Lesson 2
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/ai...
Heaven on Earth
Moshiach Facts, Lesson 3
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/ai...
Louis Farrakhan on Barack Obama, Churches and Satan's Rule
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =38I55mZuSOYXX&NR=1
Why would the Jews be waiting for Jesus to come back?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#170280 Sep 2, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
If we came from primates, where is the "linking" evidence? As in a body? I didn't know Bigfoot had been found. Wow.
It is at the Smithsonian.

It has been for a long time.

You think the link between us and the lower primates looks like bigfoot?

Wow. Indeed.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#170281 Sep 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Considering that Sahelanthropus and Orrorin tugenensis have been discovered recently and at the other end H. heidelbergensis has been known for over a century, the question is what is your point? Numerous species in between also identified.
Then the molecular evidence is overwhelming and conclusively points to the common ancestor: there is no rational alternative explanation.
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A female body is found. Her home was burglarized. Evidence of a struggle. Skin and blood under her fingernails with DNA that matches semen DNA recovered at the scene. Some moron pointing out that no suspect has been identified says "what exactly is this molecular evidence compared to?" as though doubt that a man committed the crime.
Could have been Bigfoot. You have nothing.

:)

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#170282 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Laughable. Now why would God want to create a world full of "little" Gods? LMAO Silly and absurd. What would be the point? Doh....
He did.

They are called Angels. As to why... ask him.

Ever read that dusty ole thing?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#170286 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, but it is the "key" that simply hasn't been found. There were many in "your" founder population, where are the remains? Surely, with "many" being present, remains should have been found, no? What you fail to consider is the fact that I haven't said it doesn't exist. Have you? LOL Ask Path, assuming will bite you in the butt everytime. It may well exist, I don't know. Evolution could be part of the Divine Plan, who is to say? Either way it really doesn't affect my belief system one way or the other. One of the truest sayings I've come across is, "you never know". I am curious why you take this personally, though.
Sheer utter ignorant nonsense. Fossilization is quite a rare event. There are many ancient species for which only one or two fossils have been found. This is not only for humans but for many other species. The expectation that fossils should be found for the specific founder population is sheer utter nonsense that only an uneducated fool would expect. Population bottleneck studies are conclusive. The founder population ranged in the thousands. Today members of both lineages exist and there is a fossil record linking them along with genetic evidence that conclusively confirms.

BTW, no body for Adam, Eve, Cain, Able, etc., either. Moron.

Humans evolved. The problem for believers in the literal Adam & Eve story is that the literal details of the myth are in conflict with the evidence. That is their problem, not mine.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
You will disregard the conclusive molecular evidence, chromosomal fusion, GULO pseudogene similarity sharing random mutations and retroelements, CMT1A segments with humans and chimps sharing same truncation in one of the two flanking Alu elementsm. then the glucosere-brosidase data and shared 66 base-pair deletion, etc. etc. etc.
Because the extensive fossil evidence does not suit your false conception that it should be more complete?
All because this evidence contradicts your fable for which there is NO EVIDENCE.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170287 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullchit! If you don't find the phrase, "in his image" to be open to interpretation, then you're an idiot. What a load! Common sense has totally escaped you.
You : "What a load! Common sense has totally escaped you" Er, best switch that around, as it seems God, as is "reported" ,is pretty clear to me. How in hell can you even doubt what "Created in His Image" means?

But this is mere semantics. He never said that to Anyone.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170288 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullchit! If you don't find the phrase, "in his image" to be open to interpretation, then you're an idiot. What a load! Common sense has totally escaped you.
Strange, here you are, a self-avowed believer, yet, so often not believing in what the Scriptures announce. Is God so unclear, so inarticulate in His messages that he needs interpretation?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170289 Sep 3, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sheer utter ignorant nonsense. Fossilization is quite a rare event. There are many ancient species for which only one or two fossils have been found. This is not only for humans but for many other species. The expectation that fossils should be found for the specific founder population is sheer utter nonsense that only an uneducated fool would expect. Population bottleneck studies are conclusive. The founder population ranged in the thousands. Today members of both lineages exist and there is a fossil record linking them along with genetic evidence that conclusively confirms.
BTW, no body for Adam, Eve, Cain, Able, etc., either. Moron.
Humans evolved. The problem for believers in the literal Adam & Eve story is that the literal details of the myth are in conflict with the evidence. That is their problem, not mine.
<quoted text>
HaHaHa. Bullchit! See what I mean about you taking it so personally? As to your last sentence; seems like you have a bigger problem with it than Believers. Or, is it just believers, you have a problem with? Is that what your hang up is? Silly child, open your mind. Oh, that's right, you can't! LMAO! Keep building that prison. LMAO! THOUSANDS in the founder population, yet not one body. Your theory is missing a "LINK"! LMAO! Moronic DAB.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170290 Sep 3, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
He did.
They are called Angels. As to why... ask him.
Ever read that dusty ole thing?
Wow, the Earth's population is made up of all Angels! And I thought the Bible said, God created man. Got a clue, bonehead?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170291 Sep 3, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Strange, here you are, a self-avowed believer, yet, so often not believing in what the Scriptures announce. Is God so unclear, so inarticulate in His messages that he needs interpretation?
God isn't unclear, you are. Got a clue on "in his image" yet? Didn't think so. What is it with you gum-flappers and your obvious hatred for those who believe? It upsets you that someone may think and believe differently than you, doesn't it? Why is that? I'd say insecurity with a healthy dose of immaturity to go along with it! Rodeo Clown.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170292 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
God isn't unclear, you are. Got a clue on "in his image" yet? Didn't think so. What is it with you gum-flappers and your obvious hatred for those who believe? It upsets you that someone may think and believe differently than you, doesn't it? Why is that? I'd say insecurity with a healthy dose of immaturity to go along with it! Rodeo Clown.
It's obvious that in my disagreement with you on this, I am much more mature and tolerant. Look at your above post. Do you think that "Rodeo Clown" and "gum-flappers" and "hatred" are worthy discussion points? Have you seen any kind of talk like that in the present discussion from me? Why not? Because I don't need to, I'm right, you're wrong, you're out of comebacks and out comes the ad hominem. Sad. Sigh.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170293 Sep 3, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
It's obvious that in my disagreement with you on this, I am much more mature and tolerant. Look at your above post. Do you think that "Rodeo Clown" and "gum-flappers" and "hatred" are worthy discussion points? Have you seen any kind of talk like that in the present discussion from me? Why not? Because I don't need to, I'm right, you're wrong, you're out of comebacks and out comes the ad hominem. Sad. Sigh.
Another load of pure garbage. You, tolerant? LMAO! Sad attempt at deflection. Gotta love this one, "I'm right, you're wrong"!!!!! LMAO! Yea, that just reeks of maturity! Bonehead, are you stoned or just stupid?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170294 Sep 3, 2013
How come know-it-alls don't know how annoying they are? LOL

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170295 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
How come know-it-alls don't know how annoying they are? LOL
How come know-nothings don't know how stupid they are in spite of the fact that everyone keeps reminding them? And how come they've been using ad hominem for so long before they had even seen the word, much less understood it?

Scenario or parable for LRS, hoping he's quicker on the comprehension side than the apostle :

LRS comes to a red light. He stops. Light is long, oh so long. LRS starts to think (oh oh, dangerous), law says I cannot cross the intersection if the light is red. But, could that not be open to interpretation? Just like God who created man in His Image? Yes, by gum, nowhere does it say I can't go ahead, drive on red, if I do it slowly - law doesn't say I can't drive across slowly. Yup, interpretation, it's "spot on" (LRS tm reg'd).

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170296 Sep 3, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
How come know-it-alls don't know how annoying they are? LOL
Okay, Mr LRS, tell us who said or wrote that God created man in His own Image and where he got it from. Go ahead. What? You have no idea? Neither has anyone. And, you believe it?

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