BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 240378 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170355 Sep 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn! You still have no remains. Get back to me when you do.
BTW, if I wanted to listen to an azzhole, I'd fart!
And THAT would still be more eloquent than our usual gross profanities.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#170356 Sep 4, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Get over it. At least the USSC ruled on the election of 2000 and they have not touched Obama's NBC status!
By the way, the governor of Florida had just announced an emergency legislature meeting when the USSC made it's ruling. The purpose of the legislature would have been to nullify the election and then the legislature would vote directly on the Electoral College and it would have been perfectly legal.
There is no place in our Constitution that requires a popular vote for the presidency. All our Constitution says it is a state's right but does not tell the state how to accomplish that.
In fact Senators were appointed by the state legislatures until 1913 when the 17th Amendment became law.
Do you really think the USSC would rule any differently than the over 200 rulings that have already been made without a single objection to the contrary?

Haven’t you got it yet Rogue? There are no birfoon courts in the entire country save your very own citizen grand juries which could only be comparable to the Salem witch trials.

When folks wonder how such ignorance could manifest itself in 21st century America they need look no further than the ignorant birfoon who assumes to date the eligibility question remains unanswered even after over 200 rulings and multiple SC rejections.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Get over it. At least the USSC ruled on the election of 2000 and they have not touched Obama's NBC status!
Right Rogue, they have avoided the stick of the birfoon by giving you the finger.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170357 Sep 4, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!! Now that was a great return, no one can get any better than that, it was better than Bee-tuthans 5th!!!!
ha ha, the a** hole congratulating himself.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170358 Sep 4, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>and the Constitution was only written for the citizens of the US, not a bunch of aliens/illegal aliens.
Justice Dale aka Justice LRS forgot to switch monikers, now doing a profane monologue. All this switching does tend to become confusing.

But, as we all know Justice Dale aka Justice LRS is the world-switching expert. Yes, one finger in nose, other in a**hole and lookee, he switches. LMAO (LRS/Dale tm reg'd).
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#170359 Sep 4, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
How many flights are there today from the U.S. to Kenya? None that are direct But as it is today and can fly between the U.S. via London!!!
In December 1958 I flew from Frankfurt Germany to New York City on a TWA Super Connie prop-job. It took 18 hours with stops in Shannon, Ireland and Gander Newfoundland, Canada. But 1961 most flight across the Atlantic and to Hawaii were by jet but you probably would have taken a prop-job from Kenya to London but it probably would have taken about 36 hours including stops.
Still, very possible. And if the child was on American documents, it would not have been counted as one of the 21 coming from Kenya.
Re: " And if the child was on American documents, it would not have been counted as one of the 21 coming from Kenya."

Answer: ALL people coming from Kenya were counted by the INS, both US citizens and foreigners.

Re "Flights."

Fine, but the INS figures refer to SHIPS. According to the US Immigration and Naturalization Service Report for 1961, only 21 people came to the USA. And all but one of them came BY SEA, by ship. And only 63 people went from the USA to Kenya in 1961, and all of them, repeat ALL OF THEM went by sea. According to the INS report for that year, nobody from the USA went to Kenya by air.

Here is the complete Immigration and Nationalization Services (INS) report for 1961:

http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...

Scroll down to page 74, about two-thirds of the way down in the book, and you will find the Kenya arrivals listing-----—there were only 21 arrivals.

On page 77, the same report shows the number of people who WENT to Kenya in fiscal 1961, and that shows that only 63 did (of whom 60 were Americans), and that of the 63 not a single person, not one, went by air. They ALL went by ship.

So, according to birther theory, Obama’s mother, in the last two or three months of pregnancy at the age of 18, was among the 60 Americans who went to Kenya by sea in fiscal 1961 and one of the seven Americans who came to the USA from Kenya in fiscal 1961, and since NO Americans came to the USA from Kenya by air, she would have had to have come by sea as well as going by sea.

This all seems extremely unlikely for a woman in the last three months of pregnancy, especially since in 1961 perhaps one in ten thousand women in the last three months of pregnancy would have traveled outside the USA at all---due to the risk of stillbirth.

And, guess what, birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother HAD A PASSPORT IN 1961.

They would like gullible people to just assume that she was one of the very few 18-year-olds to have a passport, and one of the EXTREMELY few women who traveled abroad during the last few months of pregnancy due to the risk of stillbirth (it had to be in the last few months of pregnancy because she was attending college for most of the year), and that the officials of BOTH the Kenyan government (who said that Obama was NOT born there) and the Hawaii government (who said that Obama WAS born there) are lying.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#170360 Sep 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yawn! You still have no remains. Get back to me when you do.
BTW, if I wanted to listen to an azzhole, I'd fart!
And the ignorant fool has no basis to claim that the overwhelming conclusive evidence, both in the fossil record and in the DNA of living organisms as well as in DNA from Neanderthals and Denisovans is anything less than conclusive.

Indeed, the DNA shows that Denisovans and H. sapiens shared a common ancestor as did Neanderthals and H. sapiens.

In fact DNA shows marine whales evolved from a species ancestral to hippos. Founder populations for several species have been measured.

Science has passed by creationism long ago.

It is a false assumption that fossils particular to a founder population are required to validate the fact of human evolution.

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A woman's body is found. DNA from blood and hair found under her fingernails matches the DNA from semen collected using a rape kit. Bayou Boy is skeptical that a man committed the crime because there is no suspect who has been identified.

The DNA evidence for humans and chimps sharing an ancestral species is overwhelming. The lineages relating human, bonobo, gorilla, chimps, etc., have been thoroughly elucidated and more data is becoming available every year. Meanwhile the fossil evidence, in agreement with the DNA evidence, inexorably accumulates.

Evidence for Adam & Eve: neolithic cattle-herding tribesmen said so.

Get back to me when you have a clue.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
There's, ignorance, blind ignorance, and then the play justice who seems to believe the existence of billion year old fossils should mean fossilization of ancient hominins and humans was less than rare. Idiotic.
Now where are Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel?
Moron.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170362 Sep 4, 2013
Further message to LRS :

Please give up. The massacre is hard to watch, harder even to bear. You're simply no match and above post number 170360 once more catapults you to the mat, so bloodied, that multiple transfusions would be a waste of good blood. You're outsmarted, out-knowledged, out-everything. Exist slowly through back door and salvage what's left of your dignity. Er, hmm, forget dignity, just sashay silently via trade entrance.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#170363 Sep 4, 2013
Jacques,
The Sunni and Shia have been slaughtering each other like pigs for years. And now Obama wants to jump into the middle of that hell-hole called Syria.
He's a day late and a dollar short.
The man has totally lost his marbles.
He's been caught lying before and I don't believe a single word he says when it comes to foreign, or domestic, policy.
And now the Wicked Witch of the West, Hillary Clinton, is beating the war drum too.
They need to go take a refresher course in the teachings of MLK.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#170364 Sep 4, 2013
That's right, Jacques
I am hot and bothered.
loose

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#170365 Sep 4, 2013
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>ACTUALLY DNA in women can be traced back to Eve in the Garden of Eden but in men it can only be traced back to Noah and his sons on the Ark.
Jesus is Lord. Kenyan-born Obama is the Antichrist.
I see the people from the laughing academy have not cot you yet!!!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170366 Sep 4, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
ha ha, the a** hole congratulating himself.
0 - 307! You haven't been right yet! LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170367 Sep 4, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Justice Dale aka Justice LRS forgot to switch monikers, now doing a profane monologue. All this switching does tend to become confusing.
But, as we all know Justice Dale aka Justice LRS is the world-switching expert. Yes, one finger in nose, other in a**hole and lookee, he switches. LMAO (LRS/Dale tm reg'd).
0 - 308! You're on a roll, psycho. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170368 Sep 4, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
And the ignorant fool has no basis to claim that the overwhelming conclusive evidence, both in the fossil record and in the DNA of living organisms as well as in DNA from Neanderthals and Denisovans is anything less than conclusive.
Indeed, the DNA shows that Denisovans and H. sapiens shared a common ancestor as did Neanderthals and H. sapiens.
In fact DNA shows marine whales evolved from a species ancestral to hippos. Founder populations for several species have been measured.
Science has passed by creationism long ago.
It is a false assumption that fossils particular to a founder population are required to validate the fact of human evolution.
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A woman's body is found. DNA from blood and hair found under her fingernails matches the DNA from semen collected using a rape kit. Bayou Boy is skeptical that a man committed the crime because there is no suspect who has been identified.
The DNA evidence for humans and chimps sharing an ancestral species is overwhelming. The lineages relating human, bonobo, gorilla, chimps, etc., have been thoroughly elucidated and more data is becoming available every year. Meanwhile the fossil evidence, in agreement with the DNA evidence, inexorably accumulates.
Evidence for Adam & Eve: neolithic cattle-herding tribesmen said so.
Get back to me when you have a clue.
<quoted text>
Your azz must get jealous of all the crap that comes from your mouth.
Learn to Read

United States

#170369 Sep 4, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>0 - 308! You're on a roll, psycho. LMAO!
Isn't it comical when a fool clings to a foolish obsession and sees another poster behind every comment?

Oh - sorry

That probably hit close to home, huh Romper?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#170370 Sep 4, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
Further message to LRS :
Please give up. The massacre is hard to watch, harder even to bear. You're simply no match and above post number 170360 once more catapults you to the mat, so bloodied, that multiple transfusions would be a waste of good blood. You're outsmarted, out-knowledged, out-everything. Exist slowly through back door and salvage what's left of your dignity. Er, hmm, forget dignity, just sashay silently via trade entrance.
Wake up now! LMAO! Poor wittle Path, what a joke you are.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#170371 Sep 4, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
"Subject to the jurisdiction" means subject to the laws. It does not mean that the person is a citizen and can vote. Every person in the USA, citizens and visitors, is subject to the jurisdiction of the USA. If they weren't, they would not have to obey our laws. EVERYBODY in the USA has to obey US law except only for foreign diplomats and their families. The 14th Amendment's "subject to the jurisdiction" was inserted to exclude foreign diplomats and their families and at the time American Indians on reservations, who were considered sovereign tribes and at the time (until a special Act of Congress in 1925 or 1926) were considered not subject to uS jurisdiction. But now that that has been passed they are also subject to the jurisdiction, leaving only foreign diplomats and their families NOT subject to the jurisdiction.
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. John Bingham, R-Ohio, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
“By the terms of the Constitution he must have been a citizen of the United States for nine years before he could take a seat here, and seven years before he could take a seat in the other House ; and, in order to be President of the United States, a person must be a native-born citizen. It is the common law of this country, and of all countries, and it was unnecessary to incorporate it in the Constitution, that a person is a citizen of the country in which he is born. I read from Paschale's Annotated Constitution, note 274:‘All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together.’ Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country as well as of England. There are two exceptions, and only two, to the universality of its application. The children of ambassadors are, in theory, born in the allegiance of the powers the ambassadors represent, and slaves, in legal contemplation, are property, and not persons.”—Sen. Trumbull, Cong. Globe. 1st Session, 42nd Congress, pt. 1, pg. 575 (1872)
Wrong again! The only people in the US that are subject to its jurisdiction are citizens, all others are controlled by treaties between the US and their country of origin.
Yep, all persons born in the allegiance of the US are natural born citizen, but at the moment of birth Obama was a citizen of his father's country of origin and not eligible for citizenship in the US.
Citizenship to the US has been Constitutional Law since 1868.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#170372 Sep 4, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Another celebration of failed playlaw. Don't tell Ted about your "theory"
LMAO!!! Ted knows his condition and there isn't a thing you can do about it without showing Obama the door.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#170373 Sep 4, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
ha ha, the a** hole congratulating himself.
LMAO!!! Looks like you are having a hard time understanding the written word, you better stick with your French.
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#170374 Sep 4, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Justice Dale aka Justice LRS forgot to switch monikers, now doing a profane monologue. All this switching does tend to become confusing.
But, as we all know Justice Dale aka Justice LRS is the world-switching expert. Yes, one finger in nose, other in a**hole and lookee, he switches. LMAO (LRS/Dale tm reg'd).
LMAO!!! You have to be the most confused ass on this thread, of course we all knew that.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#170375 Sep 4, 2013
wojar posts this :

wojar wrote:

<quoted text>
And the ignorant fool has no basis to claim that the overwhelming conclusive evidence, both in the fossil record and in the DNA of living organisms as well as in DNA from Neanderthals and Denisovans is anything less than conclusive.
Indeed, the DNA shows that Denisovans and H. sapiens shared a common ancestor as did Neanderthals and H. sapiens.
In fact DNA shows marine whales evolved from a species ancestral to hippos. Founder populations for several species have been measured.
Science has passed by creationism long ago.
It is a false assumption that fossils particular to a founder population are required to validate the fact of human evolution.
----------
A woman's body is found. DNA from blood and hair found under her fingernails matches the DNA from semen collected using a rape kit. Bayou Boy is skeptical that a man committed the crime because there is no suspect who has been identified.
The DNA evidence for humans and chimps sharing an ancestral species is overwhelming. The lineages relating human, bonobo, gorilla, chimps, etc., have been thoroughly elucidated and more data is becoming available every year. Meanwhile the fossil evidence, in agreement with the DNA evidence, inexorably accumulates.
Evidence for Adam & Eve: neolithic cattle-herding tribesmen said so.
Get back to me when you have a clue.
<quoted text>

Justice ha ha LRS's REPLY :
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Your azz must get jealous of all the crap that comes from your mouth.
LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). A very incisive, clear, scientific, and "savant", genial reply from the Birther Academy of sciences' chief resident. Nobel deserving recipient, Justice ha ha LRS aka Dale!

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