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Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#169616 Aug 29, 2013
wojar wrote:
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In 1961 the US was not a newly formed nation.
You plagiarized a fool.
1776 a new Nation was born.
Jun 21, 1788
U.S. Constitution ratified.
8-4-1961, a usurper was born???

KEW, SURREY, GB – The last place anyone would think to look for a birth record of someone claiming to be a “natural born” U.S. citizen is Great Britain. The very inclusion of the Article II eligibility mandate in the U.S. Constitution was explicitly intended by the founding fathers of America to prevent a then British-born enemy usurper, namely Obama, from attaining the office of the U.S. presidency and thereby undermining the sovereignty of the newly formed nation.

Understand now WoTARD?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169617 Aug 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Read this carefully, Rogue , from you beloved Wikipedia :
Iraq and weapons of mass destruction
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Weapons of mass destruction
The fifth president of Iraq Saddam Hussein[1] was internationally known for his use of chemical weapons in the 1980s against Iranian and Kurdish civilians during and after the Iran–Iraq War. In the 1980s he pursued an extensive biological weapons program and a nuclear weapons program, though no nuclear bomb was built.
After the 1990-1991 Persian Gulf War, the United Nations located and destroyed large quantities of Iraqi chemical weapons and related equipment and materials throughout the early 1990s, with varying degrees of Iraqi cooperation and obstruction.[2] In response to diminishing Iraqi cooperation with UNSCOM, the United States called for withdrawal of all UN and IAEA inspectors in 1998, resulting in Operation Desert Fox. The United States and the UK asserted that Saddam Hussein still possessed large hidden stockpiles of WMD in 2003, and that he was clandestinely procuring and producing more. Inspections by the UN to resolve the status of unresolved disarmament questions restarted from November 2002 until March 2003,[3] under UN Security Council Resolution 1441, which demanded Saddam give "immediate, unconditional and active cooperation" with UN and IAEA inspections, shortly before his country was attacked.[4]
During the lead-up to war in March 2003, United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix had found no stockpiles of WMD and had made significant progress toward resolving open issues of disarmament noting the "proactive" but not always "immediate" Iraqi cooperation as called for by UN Security Council Resolution 1441. He concluded that it would take “but months” to resolve the key remaining disarmament tasks.[5] The United States asserted this was a breach of Resolution 1441 but failed to convince the UN Security Council to pass a new resolution authorizing the use of force due to lack of evidence.[6][7][8]
Despite being unable to get a new resolution authorizing force and citing section 3 of the Joint Resolution passed by the U.S. Congress,[9] President George W. Bush asserted peaceful measures could not disarm Iraq of the weapons he alleged it to have and launched a second Gulf War,[10] despite multiple dissenting opinions[11] and questions of integrity[12][13][14] about the underlying intelligence.[15] Later U.S.-led inspections agreed that Iraq had earlier abandoned its WMD programs, but asserted Iraq had an intention to pursue those programs if UN sanctions were ever lifted.[16]
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Nothing new but that still does not mean that Germany, Russia, Poland, Israel, etc. all agreed that Saddamn had a active WMD program. And Saddamn had violated 27 UN mandates.
Saddamn was also noted for making last second agreements that added up to nothing.
We also believed he was moving them to Syria by truck convoy which also meant he could move them back later.
Again, BUSH DID NOT LIE and Congress and the UN approved as did thirty other countries that joined the coalition!

Iraq Chemical Weapons Moved to Syria Before 2003 Invasion?
JULY 2012
James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence in the Obama Administration, thought so.
From the Daily Beast:
Whether or not sensitive weapons technology was moved to Syria is a hotly disputed question in the intelligence community. James Clapper, now the Director of National Intelligence and formerly the director of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, said in 2003 that he believed materials had been moved out of Iraq in the months before the war and cited satellite imagery.
If the Bashar al-Assad regime falls, and should the securing of the chemical and biological stockpiles of Syria be necessary, what would be the effect if some of those materials and munitions bear Iraqi markings?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169618 Aug 29, 2013
Former Iraqi General Sada asserted that Saddam’s chemical stockpile was lifted, in his book “Saddam’s Secrets” and summarized by Investor’s Business Daily:
As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.
There were 56 flights disguised as a relief effort after a 2002 Syrian dam collapse.
The IBD article also mentions Israeli General Yaalon’s assertions, and those of John Shaw regarding Russian assistance in the form of former KGB General Primakov:
There were also truck convoys into Syria. Sada’s comments came more than a month after Israel’s top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam “transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.”
Both Israeli and U.S. intelligence observed large truck convoys leaving Iraq and entering Syria in the weeks and months before Operation Iraqi Freedom, John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told a private conference of former weapons inspectors and intelligence experts held in Arlington, Va., in 2006.
According to Shaw, ex-Russian intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov, a KGB general with long-standing ties to Saddam, went to Iraq in December 2002 and stayed until just before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.
Anticipating the invasion, his job was to supervise the removal of such weapons and erase as much evidence of Russian involvement as possible.
An interesting statement from Brian Sayers, the director of government relations for the Syria Support Group:
http://blog.usni.org/2012/07/20/iraq-chemical...
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169619 Aug 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Who was the Director of the CIA on 0/11/2001 and who appointed him?
It was George Tenet and he was appointed by ...... Bill Clinton.
Now, did George Tenet lie about WMD in Iraq?
From Wiki: Tenet and Iraq WMD controversy
According to a report by veteran investigative journalist Bob Woodward in his book Plan of Attack, Tenet privately lent his personal authority to the intelligence reports about weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in Iraq. At a meeting on December 12, 2002, he assured Bush that the evidence that Iraq had WMDs amounted to a "slam dunk case."
Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom
President Bush awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Tenet on 14 December 2004.
Tenet's seven-year term as Director of Central Intelligence was the second-longest in U.S. history. On December 14, 2004, President Bush awarded Tenet the Presidential Medal of Freedom. This was controversial, both because George Tenet had been wrong in his assertion that there were nuclear weapons in Iraq and because many critics felt that it was given more for political reasons than merit.
Bush rewarded Tenet for loyalty because of lying about WMD in Iraq and other things.

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Cheney Told CIA To Keep Program From Congress
July 12, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/m9m75g
Dick Cheney directed the CIA eight years ago not to brief Congress on a secret counterterrorism program created after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to reports from the Associated Press and The New York Times.
The details of the program have not been released, but Texas congressman Silvestre Reyes, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told NPR "this was a very highly classified program that had been in place since right after the attacks of 9/11 and involved a worldwide effort. It's a very serious program."
CIA Director Leon Panetta ended the program when he learned about it on June 23, according to Reyes. "And then I'd say within less than 24 hours, he was in front of our committee giving us the full scale of information," Reyes said.
Reyes said the CIA may have violated provisions of the National Security Act that requires Congress to be kept informed about this and other intelligence programs.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...

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Cheney 'ordered CIA to hide plan'
12 July 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/lpkwkr
Former US Vice-President Dick Cheney gave direct orders to the CIA to conceal an intelligence programme from Congress, US media reports say.
The existence of the programme, set up after 9/11, was hidden for eight years and even now its nature is not known.
CIA director Leon Panetta is said to have abandoned the project when he learnt of it last month.
He has now told a House committee that Mr Cheney was behind the secrecy, the unnamed US sources say.
There has been no comment from Mr Cheney.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146466.s...

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Cheney Is Linked to Concealment of C.I.A. Project
July 11, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/lqy8g9
The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agency’s director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.
The report that Mr. Cheney was behind the decision to conceal the still-unidentified program from Congress deepened the mystery surrounding it, suggesting that the Bush administration had put a high priority on the program and its secrecy.
Mr. Panetta, who ended the program when he first learned of its existence from subordinates on June 23, briefed the two intelligence committees about it in separate closed sessions the next day.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/politics...

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#169620 Aug 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
If he didn't change the goal posts, he'd be shut up right off the bat. It just allows him to spew his hatred a little longer. And if he's not moving the goal posts, he'll switch fields on you!
And I don't know why he defends people who would kill gay people on sight. Why does he think there are no gays in Iran, Iraq, Kuwait and just about every other Muslim country. Why in one country, which has a Christian majority, the Muslim majority province imprisoned who guys just because they looked gay!
Gays don't bother me. I will let God judge them and that is probably why Jacqueau became an atheist.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169621 Aug 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Still getting bent over on a daily basis, huh?
How many times has your counselor told you - your obsessions are your issues, not anyone else's
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#169622 Aug 29, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
1776 a new Nation was born.
Jun 21, 1788
U.S. Constitution ratified.
8-4-1961, a usurper was born???
KEW, SURREY, GB – The last place anyone would think to look for a birth record of someone claiming to be a “natural born” U.S. citizen is Great Britain. The very inclusion of the Article II eligibility mandate in the U.S. Constitution was explicitly intended by the founding fathers of America to prevent a then British-born enemy usurper, namely Obama, from attaining the office of the U.S. presidency and thereby undermining the sovereignty of the newly formed nation.
Understand now WoTARD?
Answer: There is NO record of Obama having been born in Kew, Surrey. An unnamed group claimed that they looked into the British archives and found something that showed that Obama was born in Kenya. But they never proved it, and no one else has found anything.

The claim turns out to be just another of the birther LIES, like the claim that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya---when she said repeatedly that he was born IN HAWAII (birter sites simply never quoted her, and cut off the tape recording just before she said: "He was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying at the time."

So that's all crap.
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169623 Aug 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep, and Hillary testified several times before Congress WITHOUT TAKING THE OATH TO SWEAR AND TELL THE TRUTH!!!
See you reap what you sow.

Bush and Cheney did not take the oath to tell the truth for September 11, 2001 and now Hillary Clinton did the same with Benghazi.

The elites are above the law.

Timeline of NSA Domestic Spying
2000-2013 / http://tinyurl.com/ljzz3a7
https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline

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Report: Bush-era surveillance went beyond wiretaps
A government report raises new questions about how the Bush White House kept key Justice officials in the dark about the post-Sept. 11 program.
July 11, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/qhh2cyt
Reporting from Washington -- The Bush administration's post-Sept. 11 surveillance efforts went beyond the widely publicized warrantless wiretapping program, a government report disclosed Friday, encompassing additional secretive activities that created "unprecedented" spying powers.
The report also raised new questions about how the Bush White House kept key Justice Department officials in the dark as it launched the surveillance program.
In a move that it described as "extraordinary and inappropriate," the report said the White House relied on a single, lower-level attorney in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel for assessments about the programs' legality.
The attorney, John Yoo, a young George W. Bush appointee with close ties to the president's inner circle, wrote a series of memos legally blessing the program even though his superiors and most top officials were uninformed about it.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/11/natio...

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U.S. Wiretapping of Limited Value, Officials Report
July 10, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/qapy5lg
WASHINGTON — While the Bush administration had defended its program of wiretapping without warrants as a vital tool that saved lives, a new government review released Friday said the program’s effectiveness in fighting terrorism was unclear.
The report, mandated by Congress last year and produced by the inspectors general of five federal agencies, found that other intelligence tools used in assessing security threats posed by terrorists provided more timely and detailed information.
Most intelligence officials interviewed “had difficulty citing specific instances” when the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program contributed to successes against terrorists, the report said./ http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/11/us/11nsa.ht...

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U.S. Government Monitored All Americans: Faxes, Phone Calls, Emails and Internet Communications January 22, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/bcbz8s
NSA whistleblower Russell Tice has spilled the truth on the Bush Administration lies about domestic surveillance, going public with a shocking revelation that the NSA actually spied on all Americans, not just terror suspects.
All communications of all Americans were being monitored by the NSA, including phone calls, faxes, emails and other computer communications. The NSA also specifically targeted journalists and news agencies, monitoring their communications 24/7.
This means the U.S. government has a database of every phone call, email and communication made by journalists over the last several years.
The Bush Administration, of course, insisted that its surveillance efforts were limited to terror suspects and that the American people were safe from such programs. This, of course, was another great lie by the Bush criminals.
http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000688_domest...

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#169624 Aug 29, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush rewarded Tenet for loyalty because of lying about WMD in Iraq and other things.
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Cheney Told CIA To Keep Program From Congress
July 12, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/m9m75g
Dick Cheney directed the CIA eight years ago not to brief Congress on a secret counterterrorism program created after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to reports from the Associated Press and The New York Times.
The details of the program have not been released, but Texas congressman Silvestre Reyes, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told NPR "this was a very highly classified program that had been in place since right after the attacks of 9/11 and involved a worldwide effort. It's a very serious program."
CIA Director Leon Panetta ended the program when he learned about it on June 23, according to Reyes. "And then I'd say within less than 24 hours, he was in front of our committee giving us the full scale of information," Reyes said.
Reyes said the CIA may have violated provisions of the National Security Act that requires Congress to be kept informed about this and other intelligence programs.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php...
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Sooo, just how does Rep. Silvestre Reyes know about this alleged secret program that allegedly was not briefed to Congress? Maybe Cheney is not the liar but Reyes is?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169625 Aug 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Others disagree with you psycho.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/al-qae...
Can you read, yes or no? Blair clearly says there was no Saddam/Al Qaeda link. His intelligence agency said there was none. Blair says he never saw the unfortunate insurgency coming. Blair had his career ruined by Iraq. Herewith , your own link ;

Al Qaeda in Iraq

What Tony Blair knows (and Barack Obama doesn’t).

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In a campaign speech on July 14, 2007, Senator Barack Obama railed against the Iraq war and President Bush’s obstinate refusal to end it.“We cannot win a war against the terrorists if we’re on the wrong battlefield,” Obama said. In another speech a few weeks later, he said,“The president would have us believe that every bomb in Baghdad is part of al Qaeda’s war against us, not an Iraqi civil war. He elevates Al Qaeda in Iraq—which didn’t exist before our invasion—and overlooks the people who hit us on 9/11, who are training new recruits in Pakistan.”

Al Qaeda in Iraq

Obama’s argument was by no means unique. It was fashionable at the time to claim that Iraq was in the midst of a “civil war” and, therefore, a surge of American troops (which Obama opposed) would unnecessarily place American lives at risk. Obama’s major rivals in the 2008 presidential campaign, including Senator Hillary Clinton, made similar arguments.

The claim that Al Qaeda in Iraq “didn’t exist before our invasion” was not Obama’s alone, either. Through two presidential elections (2004 and 2008) and countless debates about the war, the Democrats and their surrogates have made this allegation repeatedly. It is flat wrong.

The latest account to contradict the Democrats’ talking points is that of former British prime minister Tony Blair. In his new autobiography, A Journey: My Political Life, Blair is unapologetic about the decision to topple Saddam’s regime. But he is understandably disturbed by the violence that followed.

“I can’t regret the decision to go to war for the reason I will give,” Blair writes.“I can say that never did I guess the nightmare that unfolded, and that too is part of the responsibility.” The “nightmare” is the Iraqi insurgency, which Blair rightly blames on al Qaeda (and Iran).



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To be sure, Blair does not contend that Saddam’s ties to al Qaeda made regime change necessary.“[T]he assessment of the threat was not based on Saddam’s active sponsorship of terrorism or terrorist groups,” he writes. As Blair sees it, Saddam’s Iraq was not “the same threat as Afghanistan” because there was no direct connection between Iraq and the September 11 attacks. In addition, British intelligence officials thought the link between Saddam and al Qaeda was “hazy.”

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#169626 Aug 29, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Bush rewarded Tenet for loyalty because of lying about WMD in Iraq and other things.
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Cheney 'ordered CIA to hide plan'
12 July 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/lpkwkr
Former US Vice-President Dick Cheney gave direct orders to the CIA to conceal an intelligence programme from Congress, US media reports say.
The existence of the programme, set up after 9/11, was hidden for eight years and even now its nature is not known.
CIA director Leon Panetta is said to have abandoned the project when he learnt of it last month.
He has now told a House committee that Mr Cheney was behind the secrecy, the unnamed US sources say.
There has been no comment from Mr Cheney.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8146466.s...
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Cheney Is Linked to Concealment of C.I.A. Project
July 11, 2009 / http://tinyurl.com/lqy8g9
The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agency’s director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.
The report that Mr. Cheney was behind the decision to conceal the still-unidentified program from Congress deepened the mystery surrounding it, suggesting that the Bush administration had put a high priority on the program and its secrecy.
Mr. Panetta, who ended the program when he first learned of its existence from subordinates on June 23, briefed the two intelligence committees about it in separate closed sessions the next day.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/us/politics...
Again all you show us is allegations from people with an agenda. There was no investigation as there was no probable cause to investigate.
Now, when will Obama testify about Ben Ghazi? When will Hillary testify under oath?
You light only points to the right. Why is that? Are you left-eye blind or is you left hand broken?
Just me

Los Angeles, CA

#169627 Aug 29, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Go get your shots and papers.
Is that all you can come up with? I bet you hate the idea that an Obama supporter can be white, employed and a U.S. citizen.
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169628 Aug 29, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay show us where either Bush-43 or Cheney blamed Bill Clinton FOR ANYTHING???
Either put out or shut the f-up you slimy troll!
Put your glasses on because I said they never blamed Clinton for 9/11/01, just like Clinton never blamed Reagan and Daddy Bush for Iran-Contra AND Obama never blamed Bush/Cheney for wiretapping, waterboarding, destroying Magna Carta, US Constitution, and a myriad of other abuses against the American citizenry.

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The NDAA and the Death of the Democratic State
by Chris Hedges / http://tinyurl.com/ay2k26z / February 11, 2013
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/02/11-2...
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169629 Aug 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, a president in office in 2000 would have no way of knowing about recent intelligence on threats to the U.S.
And I think you meant "put up or shut up...."
Putting out is...... well, nevermind.
As I understand it the out going Clinton administration warned the incoming Bush administration about al Qaeda and not Iraq.

Since: May 10

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#169630 Aug 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
To be sure, Blair does not contend that Saddam’s ties to al Qaeda made regime change necessary.“[T]he assessment of the threat was not based on Saddam’s active sponsorship of terrorism or terrorist groups,” he writes. As Blair sees it, Saddam’s Iraq was not “the same threat as Afghanistan” because there was no direct connection between Iraq and the September 11 attacks. In addition, British intelligence officials thought the link between Saddam and al Qaeda was “hazy.”
Why did not also not post the very next paragraph?

Blair elaborates:

There is an interesting sidebar to this. It later emerged that [Abu Musab] al-Zarqawi, the deputy to bin Laden, had come to Iraq in May 2002, had had meetings with senior Iraqis and established a presence there in October 2002. This intelligence has not been withdrawn, by the way. Probably we should have paid more attention to its significance, but we were so keen not to make a false claim about al Qaeda and Saddam that we somewhat understated it, at least on the British side.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169631 Aug 29, 2013
Now what will Obama do? Bush had a coalilition of 30 countries when he re-invaded Iraq and how many will Obama have if he goes to war with Syria.

THURSDAY, AUGUST 29, 2013
BREAKING NEWS
U.K.’s Cameron loses Syria war vote

https://us-mg6.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169632 Aug 29, 2013
Just me wrote:
<quoted text>Is that all you can come up with? I bet you hate the idea that an Obama supporter can be white, employed and a U.S. citizen.
So many things Romper hates. Where to begin?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#169633 Aug 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Man is a technological species, intelligence is the only thing we have going for us. No, we aren't that smart yet. But we will be if we aren't taken out by a gamma burst, or a super virus, or a gaddamn war over who's invisible celestial representative wields the most mojo.
NONE of which are you guys helping with.
And I do get it...


Has anyone wondered about the consequences (re: religion) when a new species diverges from humans? Wow. A new species that shares genealogy with humans. What will they (the new species) think of Jesus, a member of a different species?

The Bible is based on primitive thought.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169634 Aug 29, 2013
by the way, Bush did not go to war with Pakistan. It is lawful under the Hague Accords on Neutrality. If there is a combatant in a neutral country, that country must evict them. If the can't or won't, the country at war may enter the neutral country to engage that enemy.
We did that to Mexico when we went after Poncho Via, didn't we!!!
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169635 Aug 29, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
There is zero power in any of them... the whole shabang.
Do you know how the Gospels made it into the bible?
It had nada to do with inspiration or divinity.
They were chosen by a political council in Nicea for political reasons. Most notably The book of Thomas. It's validity was bulletproof it just didn't jive with the objectives of the church.
One of the biggest reasons books were stricken was that they conveyed the idea that you did not need the church, that there was a spark of the divine in all of us. This would get a book clipped faster than you could say Amen.
The story of Lilith,(Adam's first wife) was taken out for obvious reasons. I am sure someone who studies the bible as much as yourself knows all about Lilith.
To accomplish this the book of Genisis had to be reworked.
Eve was actually the second companion. Molded from Adam's body so she would suit him better. Lilith was created simultaniously with Adam, but they had a falling out. She saw herself as equal to Adam and did not yield to his commands. She left Eden and was chased down by three angels... I am sure you know the rest.
Hell, even what is contained in the all important dead sea scrolls was all but wiped from the bible.
What was good for the CHURCH was deemed inspired by God. The rest was bound to the Apocrypha to be hidden away.
You are a bit too intelligent not to recognize political manipulation when you see it.
But I am sure you will reason this away somehow. I am sure God told the council what was what... right?
The Bible was assembled by believers who prayed for guidance and decided collectively what was accepted and what were rejected.

All history is distorted and no one knows what really happened.

Look at recent history and how many Americans think the United States won in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not true.

I feel generous and I will give you more ammo against me. LOL

Like Joshua said: As you me and my house we will serve the LORD.

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THE EPIC OF GILGAMESH
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THE EPIC OF GILGAMESH
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Origins of Civilization: Sumer & Mesopotamia
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