BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169446 Aug 28, 2013
I say we should give these young punks, with their tombstone mentality, exactly what they want.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169447 Aug 28, 2013

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169448 Aug 28, 2013
Joe Biden wrote:
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Interesting.
cheap s.o.b. You edit posts, you too? Adding Obama to the great Africans? You've disappointed me before, but you have had the odd "up". This cancels all of them.
Sean Scammity

Midlothian, IL

#169449 Aug 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
That right? Who'd they vote for, Romney? And, had they all been allowed to vote, you somehow know most would have voted for Romney? The same percentages of 51.1% and 48.9% would have not applied to the entire population? You can't accept it , can you, spoiled little boy. Gonna hold your breath 'til you turn blue? Blue is democrat you know, LMAO (LRS tm reg'd).
Those 250 million people did vote you lefty loon. All of which happened to be registered repulicans. Everyone knows Acorn ordered Benjamin Ghazi to shoot down the military plane "Fasty Furiously" that was carrying those 250 million ballots. If your turban wasn't shoved so far up the Anointed Ones ass, you would know that. Or are you 1 of the 2 lone black panthers that covered it up?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169450 Aug 28, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =bEScONfKqFkXX
1. Rogue dared anyone to name famous Africans.
2. Poppo did.
3. I did.
4. Rogue could not identify one single African that Poppo and I named.
5. To confirm his ignorance on the matter, he added, to my post, making it look like I did, a non-African, Obama. Low.

6. Sigh
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169451 Aug 28, 2013
Sean Scammity wrote:
<quoted text>
Those 250 million people did vote you lefty loon. All of which happened to be registered repulicans. Everyone knows Acorn ordered Benjamin Ghazi to shoot down the military plane "Fasty Furiously" that was carrying those 250 million ballots. If your turban wasn't shoved so far up the Anointed Ones ass, you would know that. Or are you 1 of the 2 lone black panthers that covered it up?
Skank, sea gulls are flocking behind you!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169452 Aug 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Fight fire with fire! An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, blood for blood.
And you anointed yourself "Justice" You fully deserve the "ha ha" in-between.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#169453 Aug 28, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Ratzinger is wrong on original sin.
If what you say is true that nobody was born with iniquity then why is there so much horror in this world?
Obama and Biden is continuing 8 years of Bush/Cheney/Clinton and you can say that too me with a straight face?
OF COURSE THERE IS SIN IN THIS WORLD.
LOL
You're not thinking too clearly. The fact that there were thousands of "first" humans precludes the possibility that the literal Adam & Eve theory of "original sin" can be true. According to Romans 5:12 sin and death entered the world through the action of one man. The Christian hypothesis of original sin is that the guilt of original sin was transmitted from generation to generation to Adam's descendants.

The problem with this theory is that Adam's brothers, sisters, cousins, and clan members would have to have become susceptible to death and guilty vicariously. The bible story based original sin theory requires only two "first parents", which is a false premise. Factually incorrect. Really, because Adam "sinned" his brother in-laws sister's husband was condemned to death because of Adam's OS?

Aside from the problems the OS hypothesis has with founder population size there is also the problem that the evidence shows that humans share a common ancestor with the chimpanzee. This means your "Adam" had a mother. So for your theory of original sin to be correct, Adam's mother was not human, or if she was human, she was human but mortal, contradicting the sin of one man introduced death into the world fable.

Again, how were Adam's contemporaries "born with iniquity" unless they were created that way, in which case God created something that was not "good".

No matter how you slice it, your theory crashes and burns.

No one denies that there is what we perceive as evil in the world. But your Adam & Eve fable doesn't work as an explanation of the facts and evidence.
wojar wrote:
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As there were about 10,000 humans in the founder population (without doubt many more than two) your "born with iniquity" hypothesis just crashed and burned, unless you believe in a God who could create something that was not good and you reject all Christian theology, in which case you just crashed and burned again.
Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death ...."
Literally false. Sorry.
So what about the other ~9,999? How were they born with iniquity?
It was the respected theologian, Professor Joseph Ratzinger (now known as Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) who said that the greatest challenge facing modern theologians is the doctrine of original sin.
Retrofitting theological doctrine that was tailor made to fit the literal Adam & Eve story to conform to current scientific knowledge is not a simply a "challenge".

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169454 Aug 28, 2013
Joe Biden wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a true lefty will use the N-word!
Get this, Rogue. The N-word can be used in context by a Black person. They can, in context, call themselves anything they want. But YOU can't. Will you some day get it?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169455 Aug 28, 2013
Sean Scammity wrote:
<quoted text>
Those 250 million people did vote you lefty loon. All of which happened to be registered repulicans. Everyone knows Acorn ordered Benjamin Ghazi to shoot down the military plane "Fasty Furiously" that was carrying those 250 million ballots. If your turban wasn't shoved so far up the Anointed Ones ass, you would know that. Or are you 1 of the 2 lone black panthers that covered it up?
LoL LoL, right on.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169456 Aug 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Get this, Rogue. The N-word can be used in context by a Black person. They can, in context, call themselves anything they want. But YOU can't. Will you some day get it?
But them calling whites creepy azz crackas is ok? How hypocritical.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169457 Aug 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
LoL LoL, right on.
I suppose you also found it funny when the plane carrying absentee ballots to our soldiers crashed? wadboy
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169458 Aug 28, 2013
What a double-talking piece of garbage! Ok Bill, let's run an FBI background check on every voter! What a total bunch of crap. Can anyone tell me why this lying sack of shyt is still around? If you believe a word out of his mouth, you're a fool. Period. That ranks up there with the dumbest political statements ever made.

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/7694-bill-c...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169459 Aug 28, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
You're not thinking too clearly. The fact that there were thousands of "first" humans precludes the possibility that the literal Adam & Eve theory of "original sin" can be true. According to Romans 5:12 sin and death entered the world through the action of one man. The Christian hypothesis of original sin is that the guilt of original sin was transmitted from generation to generation to Adam's descendants.
The problem with this theory is that Adam's brothers, sisters, cousins, and clan members would have to have become susceptible to death and guilty vicariously. The bible story based original sin theory requires only two "first parents", which is a false premise. Factually incorrect. Really, because Adam "sinned" his brother in-laws sister's husband was condemned to death because of Adam's OS?
Aside from the problems the OS hypothesis has with founder population size there is also the problem that the evidence shows that humans share a common ancestor with the chimpanzee. This means your "Adam" had a mother. So for your theory of original sin to be correct, Adam's mother was not human, or if she was human, she was human but mortal, contradicting the sin of one man introduced death into the world fable.
Again, how were Adam's contemporaries "born with iniquity" unless they were created that way, in which case God created something that was not "good".
No matter how you slice it, your theory crashes and burns.
No one denies that there is what we perceive as evil in the world. But your Adam & Eve fable doesn't work as an explanation of the facts and evidence.
<quoted text>
Paul created the concept of original sin. Paul hated women and children. The very idea that every human being is born in sin (that's God's image?- born in sin?) is cruel and so unreal. The punishment fitting the crime is one of humanity's strongest tenets. Because Adam took a bite out of an apple put there by God to sadistically tempt him, every following human being will be born in sin? Really? And these human beings will be bad because they have, somehow during pregnancy, sinned? As Baptism erases that sin, can we deduct that baptised men and women can do no wrong, no evil? Let me add this : To further rouse his cruel bored mind, God made sure that ALL women, from Eve to the end of the world, would suffer in childbirth because she aided and abetted Adam in the consummation of the apple? What? I've said it before and I'll say it again, God should stand trial for his botched attempt at creation as so awkwardly told in Geneis. Abject and total failure. And again, I repeat, He would take the fifth or otherwise incriminate Himself. He should have stuck to the rest of the uninhabited universe. What a waste of good space, though.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169460 Aug 28, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose you also found it funny when the plane carrying absentee ballots to our soldiers crashed? wadboy
With the votes that were not counted and assured Obama's victory. All 250 million votes.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169461 Aug 28, 2013
Re my post 169459:

Most intelligent people will have understood that my post blames God for absolutely nothing as He assuredly did not do any of those things. All of it was invented by mean old men, old misanthropes for the sole purpose of scaring and thus dominating their poor followers. And it worked . It still does. God is supposed to be good, forgiving, generous and loving. If so, how could He then inspire men to commit the atrocities they are guilty of since time immemorial?

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#169462 Aug 28, 2013
Jacques,
Idi Amin Dada is another famous African.

I used to work with a girl from Uganda. Her name was Juanita.
loose
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#169463 Aug 28, 2013
***Special News Flash for the Poopoo stain***

Today, African-Americans are the most manipulated and abused segment of the American population. Black children are deliberately ill-educated, as the unions and politicians are more concerned with their own welfare than that of the children. The Democratic Party Establishment, content in the knowledge that Black America has been conditioned to vote for their candidates in overwhelming numbers regardless of circumstances, views the vast majority of blacks with condescension and disdain.

You must be so proud to be so STUPID, Huh Poopoo stain?

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#169464 Aug 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Extract of what you wrote : "His crime was that he loved god above all others. You see, when god created man... he asked the angels to love humanity as they loved god.
To put it in perspective...
Put yourself in the shoes of an angel. Now, God asks you to love pigs as you love him.
Lucifer saw this as impossible. He didn't dislike humanity, he just couldn't reconcile" .
Where'd you get all this? And whoever told the tale, was he there when God banished Lucifer? Seems he was. His whole explanation of humanity vs God - who told whoever wrote this? Any witnesses? If the Newtown killer informed you that God told him to create angels by killing innocent children, which in a way makes sense as they are exempt from temptation in later years, would you believe him as you believe God told Abraham,Moses and Joshua et al to kill? Funny, God talked to these prophets, yet it was always one on one, never any witnesses. And you believe them?
I don't subscribe to "What do I lose if I'm right and what do you lose if you're wrong" reasoning. Isn't that a copout?
I think you know well that I believe all of this to be total fiction, as do most people who study it.

Of coarse, no one was there. And no... I don't think God exist.

But if you include the books that did not make the final draft... it is a complex literary adventure. And a rather cool read.

For example... The book of Adam.

Which is where the above story of Lucifer comes from.

12.1 the devil began to cry with forced tears and the devil told Adam, "O Adam, all the greed and the anger and all the grief of my heart are directed against you because it was through you that I fell from my dwellings,(it was) by you that I was alienated from my own throne. My wings were more numerous than those of the Cherubim, and I concealed myself under them. Because of you, now my feet walk on the earth, which I would never have believed."
12.2 Adam replied to the devil and told him,
12.3 "What is my fault, by which I have done all that to you?"
13.1 The devil replied to him and told him, "You did nothing to me, but it is because of you that I have fallen upon the earth."
13.2 The very day when you were created, on that day, I fell from before the face of God, because when God breathed a spirit onto your face, you had the image and likeness of the divinity. And then Michael came; he presented you and made you bend down before God. And God told Michael, "I have created Adam according to (my) image and my divinity."
14.1 Then Michael came; he summoned all the troops of angels and told them, "Bow down before the likeness and the image of the divinity."
14.2 And then, when Michael summoned them and all had bowed down to you, he summoned me also.
14.3 And I told him, "Go away from me, for I shall not bow down to him who is younger than me; indeed, I am master prior to him and it is proper for him to bow down to me.
15.1 The six classes of other angels heard that and my speech pleased them and they did not bow down to you.
16.1 Then God became angry with us and commanded us, them and me, to be cast down from our dwellings to the earth. As for you, he commanded you to dwell in paradise.
16.2 When I had realized that I had fallen before you,[B, "by your power] that I was in distress and you were in rest,
16.3 then I aimed at hunting you so that I might alienate you from the paradise of Delights, just as I had been alienated because of you.
17.1 When Adam heard that, he cried in a loud voice and said, "Lord, my life is in your hands. Make this enemy distant from me, who desires to lead me astray and seeks to destroy my race. It is by him that Eve has been lost."
17.2 At that moment, Beliar became invisible.
17.3 As for Adam, he remained in the water and did repentance. But Eve had fallen upon the earth like one dead. Then she stood up from the earth (ground?)

There are many interesting things that got edited out of the bible.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#169465 Aug 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Extract of what you wrote : "His crime was that he loved god above all others. You see, when god created man... he asked the angels to love humanity as they loved god.
To put it in perspective...
Put yourself in the shoes of an angel. Now, God asks you to love pigs as you love him.
Lucifer saw this as impossible. He didn't dislike humanity, he just couldn't reconcile" .
Where'd you get all this? And whoever told the tale, was he there when God banished Lucifer? Seems he was. His whole explanation of humanity vs God - who told whoever wrote this? Any witnesses?
I don't subscribe to "What do I lose if I'm right and what do you lose if you're wrong" reasoning. Isn't that a copout?
I think you know well that I believe all of this to be total fiction, as do most people who study it.

Of coarse, no one was there. And no... I don't think God exist.

But if you include the books that did not make the final draft... it is a complex literary adventure. And a rather cool read.

For example... The book of Adam.

Which is where the above story of Lucifer comes from.

12.1 the devil began to cry with forced tears and the devil told Adam, "O Adam, all the greed and the anger and all the grief of my heart are directed against you because it was through you that I fell from my dwellings,(it was) by you that I was alienated from my own throne. My wings were more numerous than those of the Cherubim, and I concealed myself under them. Because of you, now my feet walk on the earth, which I would never have believed."
12.2 Adam replied to the devil and told him,
12.3 "What is my fault, by which I have done all that to you?"
13.1 The devil replied to him and told him, "You did nothing to me, but it is because of you that I have fallen upon the earth."
13.2 The very day when you were created, on that day, I fell from before the face of God, because when God breathed a spirit onto your face, you had the image and likeness of the divinity. And then Michael came; he presented you and made you bend down before God. And God told Michael, "I have created Adam according to (my) image and my divinity."
14.1 Then Michael came; he summoned all the troops of angels and told them, "Bow down before the likeness and the image of the divinity."
14.2 And then, when Michael summoned them and all had bowed down to you, he summoned me also.
14.3 And I told him, "Go away from me, for I shall not bow down to him who is younger than me; indeed, I am master prior to him and it is proper for him to bow down to me.
15.1 The six classes of other angels heard that and my speech pleased them and they did not bow down to you.
16.1 Then God became angry with us and commanded us, them and me, to be cast down from our dwellings to the earth. As for you, he commanded you to dwell in paradise.
16.2 When I had realized that I had fallen before you,[B, "by your power] that I was in distress and you were in rest,
16.3 then I aimed at hunting you so that I might alienate you from the paradise of Delights, just as I had been alienated because of you.
17.1 When Adam heard that, he cried in a loud voice and said, "Lord, my life is in your hands. Make this enemy distant from me, who desires to lead me astray and seeks to destroy my race. It is by him that Eve has been lost."
17.2 At that moment, Beliar became invisible.
17.3 As for Adam, he remained in the water and did repentance. But Eve had fallen upon the earth like one dead. Then she stood up from the earth (ground?)

There are many interesting things that got edited out of the bible.

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