BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#169232 Aug 27, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer: Birthers have not even shown that Obama’s mother had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days).
Birthers have not proven that the God particle exists either, but that is not proof that it doesn't!

What is the only thing that a forged document can prove?
Yep, I'm SMEllen1!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169233 Aug 27, 2013
Poor Jercque ... If only someone had told him that the passport records were public tecords and not private had been released under the FOIA - he may not have made such a fool if himself ....
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, duh, they are NOT sealed. And, they are not even private---since she is dead.
And a birther has obtained the file under a US FOI Act Request ...
Oh, That's right - someone did. Never mind
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169234 Aug 27, 2013
BTW Jercques. Yes - above should be "records" not "tecords".
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#169235 Aug 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you. I did not even know about sealed or unsealed records until Rogue mentioned it. They were quite generous to release what they did release, as they certainly did not have to. PPt issuance, BCs, are very private matters.
And, at 17, even today, you can count on the fingers of one hand the teens that have a passport. Cripes, they don't even know what a passport is. And here we are talking 1961 - what 17-yr-old had a passport then except those with affluent parents who did a lot of travel? Not Obama's mother's case for sure. And then that whole return trip ? Only birthers...
I agree with you about the scarcity of 17- and 18-year olds that have passports, and in fact a woman traveling to a foreign country in the last few months of pregnancy would have been even more rare (and it had to be in the last few months of pregnancy because she was attending college earlier in the year.

A for privacy. Well, does a person really have the right to privacy when she or he is dead? In any case, there is nothing in Obama's mother's passport file that indicates that she had a passport in 1961, and it is highly unlikely that she did.
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#169236 Aug 27, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Birthers have not proven that the God particle exists either, but that is not proof that it doesn't!
What is the only thing that a forged document can prove?
Yep, I'm SMEllen1!
For Obama's mother to have gone to a foreign country she would have needed a passport. That's because Hawaii does not have borders with Canada or Mexico. So she would have needed a passport? Did she have one? Probably not. You can DREAM that she did, but the odds are against it.

So, since the odds are against her having a passport, what are the odds that she had a passport AND used it to travel in the last few months of pregnancy? Even lower, far lower, in the one in a hundred thousand range.

And yet you seem to think that because there is no proof that the "God particle" exists there is a reasonable chance that (1) she had a passport; (2) she used it to travel late in pregnancy to a foreign country (even though that would have had to have been ALONE, since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama's father stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.

And, in addition to those two points both having to have happened, the birth certificates (short form and long form) of Hawaii would both have had been forged, and the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii would have to have been lying about sending them to Obama and all the facts on the one that the White House put online being exactly the same as on what they sent to him.

The "God Particle" may or may not exist, but the odds of Obama being born anywhere other than in Hawaii are about a zillion to one against.

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obama’s relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they weren’t. In 1961 Obama’s grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birth—-—despite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obama’s mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the woman’s father’s name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#169237 Aug 27, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>
Birthers have not proven that the God particle exists either, but that is not proof that it doesn't!
What is the only thing that a forged document can prove?
Yep, I'm SMEllen1!
Obama's birth certificate is NOT forged.

http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/x...

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2013/01/ame-o-...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169238 Aug 27, 2013
Hummm, the U.K. Parliament will convene on Thursday to discuss whether or not to get militarily involve in Syria? The question is, will Pres. Obama ask OUR Congress for the same blessing? And if he does not, and he acts militarily, will you Libtards get upset like you did about Bush-43's Iraq and Afghanistan interventions?
Okay Libtards, which of you will stand up and be counted?!?

MPs demand vote over plans for missile blitz in Syria: Cameron warned against escalating conflict without the backing of Parliament or UN
Strikes would be in retaliation for last week's chemical weapons attack
But experts insist any attack could be illegal without UN authorisation
MPs want military action to have their backing in binding Commons vote
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-24023...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169239 Aug 27, 2013
Oh oh, FJIA now below 14,800. That is a drop of 9.4% off of the 52 week high! Just 0.6% more will be an official correction in the stock market.
And this is while Bernanke is still printing Obama Dollar$ too! What will happen when Bernanke stops printing Obama Buck$?!?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169240 Aug 27, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Ah, but neither of your sources names a document expert by name. WHY?
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169241 Aug 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Justice Dufus: "Motive is easy....greed, power, revenge, etc. Wise up, kid."
Again, Justice Dufus BELIEVES (note I didn't say "said") in the grandiose 50+ year conspiracy to capture the Oval Office.
Again, had the little tyke been born in Kenya he could have been naturalized with no waiting period. No motive for conspiracy,--->unless<-- - the three wise men appeared at the fabled grass hut and informed momma of his destiny as ---->POTUS<-----.
So if you ----->believe<----- there was a ---->motive<---- behind the grandiose Byzantine conspiracy, then you ---->believe<---- the White House was the object.
Does that help the reading comprehension challenged "Justice"?
<quoted text>
My mind is made up. What part do you not understand, Twinkerbelle? You can quit posting all this spam.
Joe Biden

Jacksonville, FL

#169242 Aug 27, 2013
HOMESICK SNOWBIRD!!!



I was in Pensacola the other day. I saw a bumper sticker on a parked car that read: "I miss Chicago!"

So I broke the window, stole the radio, shot out two of the tires, added an Obama bumper sticker

and left a note that read, "Hope this helps.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169243 Aug 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Grateful you point out the poorly-written parts of my post. I'd be grateful, as I WANT to be shown where I've erred composition, grammar, syntax and spelling-wise. Leave out the obvious typos. I'm waiting, or are you going to back down like your bedfellow LRS every time I ask him the same thing?
Sorry Path, he's right. Your post was very poorly written. Everyone keeps telling you that your English isn't very good, you should listen.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#169244 Aug 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
http://rcradioblog.wordpress.c om/2013/08/11/xerox-for-dummie s/
"The mysteries of the LFBC PDF have been solved. Amazing work by NBC and others before him like John Woodman and Frank Arduini has led to the remarkable discovery of the hardware and the work flow process that produced the LFBC posted at the White House web site. We do not need to invent a vast forgery conspiracy that includes hundreds of shadowy figures and two administrations in Hawaii. All we need is a simple work flow process that goes on every day in thousands of offices. We have known for some time that a compression process was the most likely explanation for the layers and other features of the LFBC PDF. Now we know exactly. Occam’s Razor rules once again."
Or should this be entitled "Zollo the Clown Unmasked."
The video had me in stiches. LOL

“The only people we can fool is the single digit IQ audience that listens to Gallups on that peanut whistle station down in Florida”

“Even the crazy Allen West doesn’t want the stink of the birfoon on him”

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169245 Aug 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
http://www.defensenews.com/art icle/20110707/DEFSECT05/107070 311/Italy-Removes-Aircraft-Car rier-from-Libya-Campaign
And more excuses roll in from the North
Yes, LMAO (LTR - LRS combo tm reg'd), they pulled the Garibaldi off the Libyan Coast - and all of its THREE (3) aircraft ha ha. Where's the Garibaldi and its sister carrier now? Tell us.

What a birfoon buffoon and I won't call you birther this time, god knows they have been insulted enough.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169246 Aug 27, 2013
Joe Biden wrote:
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And if we remove murders committed in the U.S. by black people, our homicide rate would look more like your country's! Maybe we should ban black people from owning any firearms.
Were all assassinations of presidents done by Black people? Hmm, NOT. All those school and work massacres in the last 10 years with all kinds of hand guns and machine guns etc , how many were done by Black people? Let's see. Er, how about NONE? Excuses excuses. If the Blacks are so responsible for the murders, oh racist one, ban sale of handguns to EVERYONE including whites and blacks and put in place stricter controls on the purchase of rifles. Ban ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles and limit magazines to 6 shells. Even that's too many.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169247 Aug 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes they did have to and a judge ruled it that way too. And they DID release all the records ...... that were still in her files!!!
Case closed. So they unsealed them. All good.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169248 Aug 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Were all assassinations of presidents done by Black people? Hmm, NOT. All those school and work massacres in the last 10 years with all kinds of hand guns and machine guns etc , how many were done by Black people? Let's see. Er, how about NONE? Excuses excuses. If the Blacks are so responsible for the murders, oh racist one, ban sale of handguns to EVERYONE including whites and blacks and put in place stricter controls on the purchase of rifles. Ban ALL automatic and semi-automatic rifles and limit magazines to 6 shells. Even that's too many.
The solution is to leave guns alone and lock up all Democrats.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169249 Aug 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
This from the same Jercque that had his panties in a wad over a typo that I made and acknowledged with no prompting from the moron?
Price instead of prize IS s typo. Acknowledged. But, look back, slug, and see how my first comment did not mention "prices". Also, I NEVER correct anyone, typo or error, UNLESS they correct me or preach, like you just did, that I can't write. THEN I point it out.

Incidentally, are you going to tell me and everyone here that "write" instead of "right" is a typo? Aren't you tired of looking foolish?

I asked you, called your bluff, because you told me that my post was poorly written. Come up with the "poorly written" part now.

P.S. Mr Liars. You did NOT acknowledge it, you lied and stonewalled. Still are. What a phoney. A real CONservative. And insult to all women that you'd wear the same CON prefix as their private parts. Disgusting. Ewwww. CONservative. Hey, did you see, except for one letter, how the definitions are the same? No wonder Romney got clobbered, what with failures like you backing him. "Can you hear us coming", LMAO (LRS-LTR combo tm reg'd).

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#169250 Aug 27, 2013
Corr : An insult. Sorry, you're too slow, slug LTR. Anyhow, "and" insult also applies
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169251 Aug 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Price instead of prize IS s typo. Acknowledged. But, look back, slug, and see how my first comment did not mention "prices". Also, I NEVER correct anyone, typo or error, UNLESS they correct me or preach, like you just did, that I can't write. THEN I point it out.
Incidentally, are you going to tell me and everyone here that "write" instead of "right" is a typo? Aren't you tired of looking foolish?
I asked you, called your bluff, because you told me that my post was poorly written. Come up with the "poorly written" part now.
P.S. Mr Liars. You did NOT acknowledge it, you lied and stonewalled. Still are. What a phoney. A real CONservative. And insult to all women that you'd wear the same CON prefix as their private parts. Disgusting. Ewwww. CONservative. Hey, did you see, except for one letter, how the definitions are the same? No wonder Romney got clobbered, what with failures like you backing him. "Can you hear us coming", LMAO (LRS-LTR combo tm reg'd).
That nifty little piece of writing won't win you any awards either!

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