BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 20 comments on the Jan 8, 2009, Chicago Tribune story titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Since: May 10

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#169275 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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The solution is to leave guns alone and lock up all Democrats.
Yep, 94.23% of all murders are Democrats!

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#169276 Aug 27, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
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satans greatest deception is he wants everyone to believe he doesn't exist.
Says Professor Abraham Van Helsing about the fictional vampire.
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text> What makes more sense too me is that Humans sin and were born with iniquity.
Psalm 51:5
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
I have no problem with those who wish to believe in a higher power if it makes you feel better or treat your fellow human beings better. My problem is with religious dogma.

Fact is the devil is not being accused of petulance and bringing famine upon his people. The good Lord is said to have done these things and a lot more.

“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. Nothing religious about those words nor did they come from the gods, but think how far man would have advanced had he heeded them.

“But the church of this country is not only indifferent to the wrongs of the slave, it actually takes sides with the oppressors. It has made itself the bulwark of American slavery, and the shield of American slave-hunters. Many of its most eloquent Divines, who stand as the very lights of the church, have shamelessly given the sanction of religion and the Bible to the whole slave system. They have taught that man may, properly, be a slave; that the relation of master and slave is ordained of God; that to send back an escaped bondman to his master is clearly the duty of all the followers of the Lord Jesus Christ; and this horrible blasphemy is palmed off upon the world for Christianity”

“For my part, I would say, welcome infidelity! Welcome atheism! Welcome anything! In preference to the gospel, as preached by those Divines! They convert the very name of religion into an engine of tyranny and barbarous cruelty, and serve to confirm more infidels, in this age, than all the infidel writings of Thomas Paine, Voltaire, and Bolingbroke put together have done”
Frederick Douglass
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/dougl...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169277 Aug 27, 2013
Joe Biden wrote:
Justice LRS wrote:
Interracial marriages were illegal until 1967. Hmmm.....!
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Can you tell us which states are "hillbilly states"? Is it the one that has HillBilly Airport?
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/04/hillbill...
Do you know that not until this past Spring, Arkansas did not have even one international airport? Florida has ... 17 international airports!
Oh, to be an international airport you must have a Customs Port of Entry.
Florida had 17 international airports in 1967?

BTW, Haiti has an international customs port of entry. Whoop-dee-doo!

If Jed Clampit rode on an aiplane he wouldn't be a hilbilly?

UR too much Rougie. Florida airports? WTF?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169278 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>And what fable might that be, LTR?
The "there is no birth certificate" fable you just pasted in.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169279 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Oh well, that settles it then. LTR says so! LMAO! Good one. LMAO!
See, you're learning. I am an expert!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169280 Aug 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Jean Claude Tremblay told WND that none of his comments would permit the conclusion that the Obama birth certificate is an authentic document.
Keep focusing on the pdf and ignoring the certified and verified birth facts.

Funny how many birfoons believe in Adam even though there is no birth certificate and the scientific evidence is contrary to the literal creation myth but doubt Obama's Hawaiian birth even though Hawaii officials (from both parties) have stated several times that they have the original vital record proving he was born at Kapiolani Hospital and the attending physician was David A. Sinclair, M. D.

Nope, no late registration. Registration 4 days after the birth. Hospital birth. No evidence to contrary.

Dream on, birfoon.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169281 Aug 27, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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Says Professor Abraham Van Helsing about the fictional vampire.
<quoted text>
I have no problem with those who wish to believe in a higher power if it makes you feel better or treat your fellow human beings better. My problem is with religious dogma.
Fact is the devil is not being accused of petulance and bringing famine upon his people. The good Lord is said to have done these things and a lot more.
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. Nothing religious about those words nor did they come from the gods, but think how far man would have advanced had he heeded them.
“But the church of this country is not only indifferent to the wrongs of the slave, it actually takes sides with the oppressors. It has made itself the bulwark of American slavery, and the shield of American slave-hunters. Many of its most eloquent Divines, who stand as the very lights of the church, have shamelessly given the sanction of religion and the Bible to the whole slave system. They have taught that man may, properly, be a slave; that the relation of master and slave is ordained of God; that to send back an escaped bondman to his master is clearly the duty of all the followers of the Lord Jesus Christ; and this horrible blasphemy is palmed off upon the world for Christianity”
“For my part, I would say, welcome infidelity! Welcome atheism! Welcome anything! In preference to the gospel, as preached by those Divines! They convert the very name of religion into an engine of tyranny and barbarous cruelty, and serve to confirm more infidels, in this age, than all the infidel writings of Thomas Paine, Voltaire, and Bolingbroke put together have done”
Frederick Douglass
http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/dougl...
Here we go again, back to slavery! At some point you must move on for the greater good. Do you know of one race that has not been subjected to slavery? I'm 100% certain you have no clue how God thinks. How vain! LMAO!!! You're just one grain of sand on a beach, poops. That's it. Nothing special about you. No great wisdom or insight do you contain.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#169282 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Your source was never an "official". He was a clerk in the elections office and didn't have access to anyone's birth certificate. And he didn't swear to anything either - but I can certainly see why you would cling to this
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169283 Aug 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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See, you're learning. I am an expert!
I am a professional working on a closed course. Do not attempt what I do. Who do you think you are? Me? LMAO!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169284 Aug 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
This really says it all !!!!
Three Presidents -- No one in either party has the courage to do this.
What did Presidents Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?
This is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around. I didn't know of this until it was pointed out to me.
Back during the great depression, Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work.
Harry Truman deported over two million illegal aliens after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.
In 1954 Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexicans. The program was called Operation Wetback. It was done so WWII and Korean War veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took two years, but they deported them!
Now, if they could deport the illegal aliens back then, they could surely do it today. If you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.
Why, you might ask, can't they do this today? Actually the answer is quite simple. Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower were men of honor, not untrustworthy politicians looking for votes!
Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes - 12 to 20 million illegal aliens - are depending on it.
Obama Keeps Up Torrid Pace of Deportations

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-11/obam...

http://tinyurl.com/qhlhxvo

"In its last fiscal year, 2012, the administration deported a record 409,849 undocumented immigrants -- a rate of about 34,000 a month. For the seven months from Oct. 1, 2012, to June 1, 2013, the pace was about 10 percent slower, but the number was still huge: 246,333, according to ICE spokeswoman Nicole Navas."

According to Rouge calculus Obama is most honorable man in history.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169285 Aug 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Your source was never an "official". He was a clerk in the elections office and didn't have access to anyone's birth certificate. And he didn't swear to anything either - but I can certainly see why you would cling to this
As I said, disprove it, if you wish. Sounds like he was told more than once and by more than one person.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169286 Aug 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Yep, 94.23% of all murders are Democrats!
Troll.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169287 Aug 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Obama Keeps Up Torrid Pace of Deportations
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-11/obam...
http://tinyurl.com/qhlhxvo
"In its last fiscal year, 2012, the administration deported a record 409,849 undocumented immigrants -- a rate of about 34,000 a month. For the seven months from Oct. 1, 2012, to June 1, 2013, the pace was about 10 percent slower, but the number was still huge: 246,333, according to ICE spokeswoman Nicole Navas."
According to Rouge calculus Obama is most honorable man in history.
Obobblehead's math; deport 400K and allow 2M new illegals! What a joke.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169288 Aug 27, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
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Birthers have not proven that the God particle exists either, but that is not proof that it doesn't!
What is the only thing that a forged document can prove?
Yep, I'm SMEllen1!
What can a forged document fable prove? Birfoons are gullible.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#169289 Aug 27, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Ah, but neither of your sources names a document expert by name. WHY?
They do if you follow the links and look hard enough Rogue

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Conclusion

Mara Zebest is correct; the Obama PDF has been digitally altered. But she is not correct that it is a forgery.

It is instead an ordinary PDF created by scanning an ordinary document and optimizing it for the Internet. This process does digitally alter the document, but it does not change it.

IT DOES NOT TURN TRUTH INTO FICTION; IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE MEANING OF WORDS OR MOVE HONOLULU TO THE COAST OF KENYA.

And most importantly, it does not make the original document from which it was copied and altered suddenly disappear.

The only genuine expert in digital image analysis that has publicly commented on the Obama PDF had an important and sensible observation as a preface to his discussion. Dr. Neil Krawetz observed that Digital document analysis can detect manipulation, but it cannot determine whether the original subject is authentic.

The authenticity can only be determined by the State of Hawaii, and they already said that it is authentic.

“On June 13, 2008 then candidate Barack Obama released his sealed and certified Hawaiian birth certificate to the press and public. On April 27, 2011 he did so again, this time releasing his long form version. Both documents have been attested to by the government of the State of Hawaii as authentic, as proving that he was born in the United States of America”

WITH THOSE ACTS, HE HAS PROVIDED MORE PROOF OF HIS NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY.
Frank Arduini
http://www.scribd.com/doc/59087668/Response-t...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169290 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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My mind is made up. What part do you not understand, Twinkerbelle? You can quit posting all this spam.
LTR's mind was made up the instant Phil Berg made up the Kenya fable.
wojar wrote:
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Justice Dufus: "Motive is easy....greed, power, revenge, etc. Wise up, kid."
Again, Justice Dufus BELIEVES (note I didn't say "said") in the grandiose 50+ year conspiracy to capture the Oval Office.
Again, had the little tyke been born in Kenya he could have been naturalized with no waiting period. No motive for conspiracy,--->unless<-- - the three wise men appeared at the fabled grass hut and informed momma of his destiny as ---->POTUS<-----.
So if you ----->believe<----- there was a ---->motive<---- behind the grandiose Byzantine conspiracy, then you ---->believe<---- the White House was the object.
Does that help the reading comprehension challenged "Justice"?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#169291 Aug 27, 2013
Sorry, LRS, not LTR.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169292 Aug 27, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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They do if you follow the links and look hard enough Rogue
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Conclusion
Mara Zebest is correct; the Obama PDF has been digitally altered. But she is not correct that it is a forgery.
It is instead an ordinary PDF created by scanning an ordinary document and optimizing it for the Internet. This process does digitally alter the document, but it does not change it.
IT DOES NOT TURN TRUTH INTO FICTION; IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE MEANING OF WORDS OR MOVE HONOLULU TO THE COAST OF KENYA.
And most importantly, it does not make the original document from which it was copied and altered suddenly disappear.
The only genuine expert in digital image analysis that has publicly commented on the Obama PDF had an important and sensible observation as a preface to his discussion. Dr. Neil Krawetz observed that Digital document analysis can detect manipulation, but it cannot determine whether the original subject is authentic.
The authenticity can only be determined by the State of Hawaii, and they already said that it is authentic.
“On June 13, 2008 then candidate Barack Obama released his sealed and certified Hawaiian birth certificate to the press and public. On April 27, 2011 he did so again, this time releasing his long form version. Both documents have been attested to by the government of the State of Hawaii as authentic, as proving that he was born in the United States of America”
WITH THOSE ACTS, HE HAS PROVIDED MORE PROOF OF HIS NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY.
Frank Arduini
http://www.scribd.com/doc/59087668/Response-t...
A computer generated document cannot prove anything.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169293 Aug 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
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LTR's mind was made up the instant Phil Berg made up the Kenya fable.
<quoted text>
Wise up, child. You're being played like a cheap guitar. LMAO!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169294 Aug 27, 2013
It is interesting to note that Hawaii's new rule of issuing only computer generated documents occurred shortly before Obobblehead's entrance into political office. Hmmm...that sure was good timing, wasn't it? LMAO!

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