BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Frank

Spokane, WA

#168954 Aug 25, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Which only goes to show they were full of shit from the start. Apparently Romney thought they were serious though.
Oh this is funny!
http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002904/
Republicans in Congress had healthcare reform plans that would have been good for our country. Every committee that was put together by Republicans had input from Doctors. Obama completely ignored every single recommendation from the Republicans. That is a form of tyranny that is far worst than anything our country faced two hundred fifty years ago,because we have elected officials that represent the citizens of this country whose voices are silenced by one man in the White House with the help of Democrats in Congress and a woeful mass media.
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#168958 Aug 25, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Almighty God allows the devil to roam freely and massacre at will? How's that for "loving" protection? As to Jesus's sacrifice, you have called it "sacrifice", not me. You believe in human sacrifice? I believed that the Old Testament banned human AND animal sacrifice. I thought only pagans, Aztecs and Mayans did that. You think human sacrifice is okay?
God is in charge or there would be nothing left on earth.

The 450 priest were pagan and sacrificed humans to their false gods.

Big difference when one side is bad and the other side is good.

You are mixing Apples and Oranges.

Of course there were some bad Popes and some bad Christians throughout history.

Gods side is the good side and the Devils side is bad.

Read the story of Job when God allowed the Devil to destroyed his whole family and everything he owned.

Afterward God rewarded Job with much more than what he first had.

A little like Heaven when we will have much more than we started with.

=======

Revelation 7:9

The Great Multitude in White Robes

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#168959 Aug 25, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
PS : What you just wrote signifies, very clearly, that Elijah, Joshua, Moses, Louis IX, the Popes of the Inquisition, etc, were driven by the prince and devil, Lucifer?
When Jesus returns He will separate the wheat from the chaff.

Elijah, Joshua and Moses will be in the wheat pile.

King Louie, Popes of the inquisitions will be in the chaff pile.

If I am wrong no big deal.

If you are wrong VERY BIG DEAL!
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#168960 Aug 25, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Democracynow org thinks it is great that more Americans are on welfare, food stamps, Obama Phones, etc. than ever before while 17% of Americans are either unemployed or underemployed.
Seven out of eight jobs created during Obama's administration are .... part time jobs.
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/

http://www.strike-the-root.com/

http://www.corbettreport.com/

Peter Schiff Was Right 2006 - 2007 (2nd Edition)
Predicted Financial Meltdown / Bush and Cheney did nothing about it
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#168961 Aug 25, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Might as well accept it Twinkers. The BC is a fake, just like Obobblehead. Now, if that hurts your wittle feelings, tough. Buy the BS all you want Twinkers. I won't.
Only birther “experts” have called Obama’s birth certificate forged, and they have not shown that they are even experts, much less fair and impartial. Those are two reasons why they are not believed by Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck or the National Review (or by Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or Gingrich or Santorum or Huckabee).

One proof that Obama’s birth certificate is not forged is Obama’s short-form birth certificate.

Short-form birth certificates are created by a clerk reading the information from the document in the file, and filling out the computer form that generates the printed short-form birth certificate. The officials in Hawaii have confirmed that they sent a short-form to Obama. So, unless they are lying—and they were Republican officials–the only way that Obama’s birth certificate could have been forged was that it was forged in 2007 and slipped into the file just before the clerk looked at the file. That is not very likely, is it? And it is especially unlikely since at the time Obama was not even the candidate of the Democrats. He was still in the primaries at the time, and he was only a junior senator from Illinois.

And birther sites have not shown you these real experts.

Dr. Neil Krawetz, an imaging software analysis author and experienced examiner of questioned images, said:“The PDF released by the White House shows no sign of digital manipulation or alterations. I see nothing that appears to be suspicious.”

Nathan Goulding with The National Review:“We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.… I’ve confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.”

John Woodman, independent computer professional, who is a member of the Tea Party (who says that he hates Obama’s policies but found no evidence of forgery) said repeatedly in his book and in various articles on his Web site that the claims that Obama’s birth certificate was forged were unfounded.

Ivan Zatkovich, who has testified in court as a technology expert, and consultant to WorldNetDaily:“All of the modifications to the PDF document that can be identified are consistent with someone enhancing the legibility of the document.” And, by the way, when WND received Zatkovich’s article that said that he found nothing wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, WordNDaily simply did not publish it.

Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator, said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Birthers’ claim that Obama’s birth certificate is false is well understood to be caused by their own motives—they hate Obama and would like to harm him.

And it is irrational (to say the least) to think that Obama’s relatives had enough money (Obama’s grandfather was just a furniture salesman and his grandmother a low-level employee in a bank at the time; and his father came to Hawaii on a free flight) or crazy enough to spend LOTS of money on a long and expensive and risky (incidents of stillbirths were high at the time) overseas trip for their pregnant daughter—–---when there were perfectly good hospitals in Honolulu, Hawaii.
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#168962 Aug 25, 2013
Democracynow org

Sayville, NY

#168963 Aug 25, 2013
Special Report: The Savings And Loan Crisis
Another George Bush Bailout On The Backs Of Taxpayers
Monday, Feb. 20, 1989 /
http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/lewis/issue...
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#168964 Aug 25, 2013
Birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days), and yet they would like the world to believe that there is a realistic chance that she had a passport, and traveled using it during the last two months of pregnancy (which would have been even more rare due to the rate of stillbirths at the time).

Birthers have not even shown the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created (and if it was created after 1961, she did not have a passport in 1961). And, the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created is unlikely to have been lost, evaporated, or scratched off of the file (and if it were, they could tell us if that had indeed happened). But birther sites have not even told us that date.

And they LIED by saying that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (She actually said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII, but they just cut off the tape just before she was asked "Where was he born?")

Yet, the birther sites that have not shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 and do not show the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created AND lied about Obama’s Kenyan grandmother saying he was born in Kenya still want us to assume that she had a passport, and that she traveled to a foreign country despite the risk of stillbirth, and that the birther “experts” are telling the truth about their claim that the birth certificate is forged (although the birther sites simply do not show the numerous real experts who say that it was not forged).

AND they want us to believe that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about his place of birth, and so is the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers---which at the time could only have been sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii, which at the time only sent out those notices for births IN Hawaii. No wonder rational people do not believe them.
Kapiolani

Honolulu, HI

#168965 Aug 25, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
Birthers have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 (and very very few 18-year-olds did in those days), and yet they would like the world to believe that there is a realistic chance that she had a passport, and traveled using it during the last two months of pregnancy (which would have been even more rare due to the rate of stillbirths at the time).
Birthers have not even shown the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created (and if it was created after 1961, she did not have a passport in 1961). And, the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created is unlikely to have been lost, evaporated, or scratched off of the file (and if it were, they could tell us if that had indeed happened). But birther sites have not even told us that date.
And they LIED by saying that Obama's Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (She actually said repeatedly that he was born in HAWAII, but they just cut off the tape just before she was asked "Where was he born?")
Yet, the birther sites that have not shown that Obama's mother had a passport in 1961 and do not show the date on which Obama's mother's passport file was created AND lied about Obama’s Kenyan grandmother saying he was born in Kenya still want us to assume that she had a passport, and that she traveled to a foreign country despite the risk of stillbirth, and that the birther “experts” are telling the truth about their claim that the birth certificate is forged (although the birther sites simply do not show the numerous real experts who say that it was not forged).
AND they want us to believe that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about his place of birth, and so is the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers---which at the time could only have been sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii, which at the time only sent out those notices for births IN Hawaii. No wonder rational people do not believe them.
I admire your patience Ellen as you deal with Birthers.

Aloha & good day from Honolulu Hawaii, the Birthplace of President Barack Hussein Obama.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#168967 Aug 25, 2013
Obama's Domestic Army
https://www.youtube.com/watch...

Pledge of aggrievance:‘United States of Obama’ flag waves at March on Washington
http://twitchy.com/2013/08/24/pledge-of-aggri...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#168968 Aug 25, 2013
Better watch where you go!

Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#168969 Aug 25, 2013

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168970 Aug 25, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
God is in charge or there would be nothing left on earth.
The 450 priest were pagan and sacrificed humans to their false gods.
Big difference when one side is bad and the other side is good.
You are mixing Apples and Oranges.
Of course there were some bad Popes and some bad Christians throughout history.
Gods side is the good side and the Devils side is bad.
Read the story of Job when God allowed the Devil to destroyed his whole family and everything he owned.
Afterward God rewarded Job with much more than what he first had.
A little like Heaven when we will have much more than we started with.
=======
Revelation 7:9
The Great Multitude in White Robes
9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.
Amazing. The 450 priests deserved to be executed because they were not of Elijah's faith? They deserved to die? Incidentally, they were priests, therefore not pagans. You approve of this? You think all pagans should be killed? What about Aaron's sons who were killed because they could not light a proper fire for the altar?

But the best one is Job. First of all, who tells these stories of God playing games with the devil? Who? Was he there? Did God himself tell the writer what happened? And what is this, God in league with Lucifer, placing wages on whether poor ole not-too-bright Job will succumb after horrible tricks played on him by those two gamblers. I thought the devil was in hell. Burning. What's he doing sitting with God playing sadistic tricks on Job to see if he'll keep the faith.

But re-read what you wrote : "Afterward God rewarded Job with much more than what he first had." Isn't that sweet? Er, in the process of testing his faith, God or the devil or both, killed his wife, children, servants (read : slaves) and animals. Er, hmm, were they brought back to life so they could have "much more than what they first had"? Or were they mere inconveniences? Sundry material.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168971 Aug 25, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
When Jesus returns He will separate the wheat from the chaff.
Elijah, Joshua and Moses will be in the wheat pile.
King Louie, Popes of the inquisitions will be in the chaff pile.
If I am wrong no big deal.
If you are wrong VERY BIG DEAL!
Er, King Louis is a saint. Saint Louis

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168972 Aug 25, 2013
As I've always maintained, if all the prophets and evangelists and their ilk were put on trial in order to explain what they wrote, they'd all take the Fifth. From (Genesis) to the Apocalypse, these "sacred" writings incriminate almost all the actions attributed (remember, I wrote "attributed") to God and his chosen ones. Genesis is the perfect example of how NOT to create a family ---and so it goes.

Moses, Joshua, Abraham, Elijah, David, and so many more, all vying with Hitler and Stalin on murderers' row. Per capita, as the population was much smaller then, they rate right up there with the vilainest of them all.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168973 Aug 25, 2013
P.S. ; Sorry, I forgot Mohamad, the serial killer and child molestor.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#168974 Aug 25, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
I bet you never seen Ziggy do this?
"The Price of Silence"
http://www.linktv.org/silence
BTW: God Is Love!


Gotta admit I do love those “We Are the World” type inspirational vid’s and that one was great. I kept seeing flashes of who looked like a somewhat older Hugh Masekela on the horn and to my surprise when I looked at the credits it was actually him.

Guess he’s still grazin
http://www.last.fm/music/Hugh+Masekela/_/Graz...

As for the gods being love I would imagine they should be whatever you want them to be since you are the ones who created them. LOL

“If the concept of God has any validity or any use, it can only be to make us larger, freer, and more loving. If God cannot do this, then it is time we got rid of Him.”
James Baldwin
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#168975 Aug 25, 2013
Barack Obama has been running around the country taking credit for an "economic recovery", but the truth is that things have not gotten better under Obama. Compared to when he first took office, a smaller percentage of the working age population is employed, the quality of our jobs has declined substantially and the middle class has been absolutely shredded. If we are really in the middle of an "economic recovery", why is the homeownership rate the lowest that it has been in 18 years? Why has the number of Americans on food stamps increased by nearly 50 percent while Obama has been in the White House? Why has the national debt gotten more than 6 trillion dollars larger during the Obama era? Obama should not be "taking credit" for anything when it comes to the economy. In fact, he should be deeply apologizing to the American people.
And of course Obama is being delusional if he thinks that he is actually "running the economy". The Federal Reserve has far more power over the U.S. economy and the U.S. financial system than he does. But the mainstream media loves to fixate on the presidency, so presidents always get far too much credit or far too much blame for economic conditions.
But if you do want to focus on "the change" that has taken place since Barack Obama entered the White House, there is no way in the world that you can claim that things have actually gotten better during that time frame. The cold, hard reality of the matter is that the U.S. economy has been steadily declining for over a decade, and this decline has continued while Obama has been living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
It is getting very tiring listening to Obama supporters try to claim that Obama has improved the economy. That is a false claim that is not even remotely close to reality. The following are 33 shocking facts which show how badly the U.S. economy has tanked since Obama became president...
Barack Obama has been running around the country taking credit for an "economic recovery", but the truth is that things have not gotten better under Obama. Compared to when he first took office, a smaller percentage of the working age population is employed, the quality of our jobs has declined substantially and the middle class has been absolutely shredded. If we are really in the middle of an "economic recovery", why is the home ownership rate the lowest that it has been in 18 years? Why has the number of Americans on food stamps increased by nearly 50 percent while Obama has been in the White House? Why has the national debt gotten more than 6 trillion dollars larger during the Obama era? Obama should not be "taking credit" for anything when it comes to the economy. In fact, he should be deeply apologizing to the American people.
And of course Obama is being delusional if he thinks that he is actually "running the economy". The Federal Reserve has far more power over the U.S. economy and the U.S. financial system than he does. But the mainstream media loves to fixate on the presidency, so presidents always get far too much credit or far too much blame for economic conditions.
But if you do want to focus on "the change" that has taken place since Barack Obama entered the White House, there is no way in the world that you can claim that things have actually gotten better during that time frame. The cold, hard reality of the matter is that the U.S. economy has been steadily declining for over a decade, and this decline has continued while Obama has been living at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
It is getting very tiring listening to Obama supporters try to claim that Obama has improved the economy. That is a false claim that is not even remotely close to reality. The following are 33 shocking facts which show how badly the U.S. economy has tanked since Obama became president...
http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/

The SHEEPLE must be just gushing to lick Obama's ass crack, huh SHEEPLE?

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#168976 Aug 25, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Republicans in Congress had healthcare reform plans that would have been good for our country. Every committee that was put together by Republicans had input from Doctors. Obama completely ignored every single recommendation from the Republicans. That is a form of tyranny that is far worst than anything our country faced two hundred fifty years ago,because we have elected officials that represent the citizens of this country whose voices are silenced by one man in the White House with the help of Democrats in Congress and a woeful mass media.
Frank, how could you possibly spew such nonsense when both plans were extensively debated during the 2008 campaign? In case you forgot you lost that election by a landslide.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
75 percent of who polled Frank, Fox viewers? Romney’s entire campaign was predicated on the notion of repealing Obamacare and he took a severe ass whoopin at the only poll that counts.
By contrast Obama campaigned on reforming healthcare back in 2008 and both he and McCain’s proposals were very specific. Landslide victory!
So please speak for yourself Frank and stop trying to tell us what others don’t want because both election results speak for themselves.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Publications/...
The loser does not get to control shit but his own house no matter how many committees they put together Frank.

At any rate the Rethug tactic then as now was to delay and stall by any means necessary. Only now they don’t even pretend they have something to replace it with
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#168977 Aug 25, 2013
#1 When Barack Obama entered the White House, 60.6 percent of working age Americans had a job. Today, only 58.7 percent of working age Americans have a job.
#2 Since Obama has been president, seven out of every eight jobs that have been "created" in the U.S. economy have been part-time jobs.
#3 The number of full-time workers in the United States is still nearly 6 million below the old record that was set back in 2007.
#4 It is hard to believe, but an astounding 53 percent of all American workers now make less than $30,000 a year.
#5 40 percent of all workers in the United States actually make less than what a full-time minimum wage worker made back in 1968.
#6 When the Obama era began, the average duration of unemployment in this country was 19.8 weeks. Today, it is 36.6 weeks.
#7 During the first four years of Obama, the number of Americans "not in the labor force" soared by an astounding 8,332,000. That far exceeds any previous four year total.
#8 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the middle class is taking home a smaller share of the overall income pie than has ever been recorded before.
#9 When Obama was elected, the homeownership rate in the United States was 67.5 percent. Today, it is 65.0 percent. That is the lowest that it has been in 18 years.
#10 When Obama entered the White House, the mortgage delinquency rate was 7.85 percent. Today, it is 9.72 percent.
#11 In 2008, the U.S. trade deficit with China was 268 billion dollars. Last year, it was 315 billion dollars.
#12 When Obama first became president, 12.5 million Americans had manufacturing jobs. Today, only 11.9 million Americans have manufacturing jobs.
#13 Median household income in America has fallen for four consecutive years. Overall, it has declined by over $4000 during that time span.
#14 The poverty rate has shot up to 16.1 percent. That is actually higher than when the War on Poverty began in 1965.
#15 During Obama's first term, the number of Americans on food stamps increased by an average of about 11,000 per day.
#16 When Barack Obama entered the White House, there were about 32 million Americans on food stamps. Today, there are more than 47 million Americans on food stamps.
#17 At this point, more than a million public school students in the United States are homeless. This is the first time that has ever happened in our history. That number has risen by 57 percent since the 2006-2007 school year.
#18 When Barack Obama took office, the average price of a gallon of regular gasoline was $1.85. Today, it is $3.53.
#19 Electricity bills in the United States have risen faster than the overall rate of inflation for five years in a row.
#20 Health insurance costs have risen by 29 percent since Barack Obama became president, and Obamacare is going to make things far worse.
#21 The United States has fallen in the global economic competitiveness rankings compiled by the World Economic Forum for four years in a row.
#22 According to economist Tim Kane, the following is how the number of startup jobs per 1000 Americans breaks down by presidential administration...
Bush Sr.: 11.3
Clinton: 11.2
Bush Jr.: 10.8
Obama: 7.8
#23 In 2008, that total amount of student loan debt in this country was 440 billion dollars. At this point, it has shot up to about a trillion dollars.
#24 According to one recent survey, 76 percent of all Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.
#25 During Obama's first term, the number of Americans collecting federal disability insurance rose by more than 18 percent.

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