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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169186 Aug 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Exactly. LRS-type lynching party law too.
"Hey, lookit them black N**gers with our white women. String "em up."
Man, you are a disgrace to pile of shyt.
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169187 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Who said this?
"The use of chemical weapons would be a game changer"
Who said this, Iraq has Yellow Cake and could destroy us in 45 minutes.

LOL

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Bush Republicans Planned Invading Iraq In 1998

Dear Mr. President: William J. Clinton
http://tinyurl.com/7ots / January 26, 1998
We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Husseinís regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams / Richard L. Armitage / William J. Bennett / Jeffrey Bergner

John Bolton / Paula Dobriansky / Francis Fukuyama / Robert Kagan / Zalmay Challises

William Kristol / Richard Perle / Peter W. Rodman / Donald Rumsfeld / William Schneider,

Vin Weber / Paul Wolfowitz / R. James Woolsey / Robert B. Zoellick
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclinton...

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Bush Caught Lying About September 11th
http://tinyurl.com/2eaehw
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Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#169188 Aug 27, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Two days ago, your buddy LRS was goading Obama to make good his boast on the line in the sand. You guys gotta decide what you want once and for all.
As usual, you miss the point. LMAO! Obobblehead needs to learn to think before he speaks! Actually, he just needs to learn to think. He really doesn't know what he is doing. Not even a hint!
Democracynow org

Brooklyn, NY

#169189 Aug 27, 2013
Poppo wrote:
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In order to blame the gods one must believe in the gods. I blame the gods for nothing. Whatever man does to his fellow man is due to manís own shortcomings.
I suppose you think that blaming your godís dog for all the evil in the world somehow absolves god of responsibility for unleashing his dog on the world. That may work for you, but I would think in todayís courts god would be severely punished and his dog put to sleep. LOL
Devil Indeed!
satans greatest deception is he wants everyone to believe he doesn't exist.

What makes more sense too me is that Humans sin and were born with iniquity.

Psalm 51:5
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169191 Aug 27, 2013
I love it when Libtards cherry-pick their data. Case in point is this Reagan to Obama comparison.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/view-image/...
Now, why did they start with Reagan and not.... Carter? Look at the graph and you see it starts just before Reagan took office and the stock market was in decline from the Carter Recession and continued down because the Democrat controlled Congress delayed the Reagan 25% income tax cuts by drawing it out over a three year period.
Ten it points to Black Monday but look at the market before Black Monday. You had a BUBBLE and all bubbles burst.
Soooo, what caused that bubble? THE DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED Congress! But even given both of those points, the stock market rose 45% in the eight years Reagan was in office.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169192 Aug 27, 2013
And then there is Bush-41.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/view-image/...
Oh, the dip in late 1990 through mid-1991 was caused by the Bank & S&L debacle which was also caused by the ..... Democrat controlled Congress.
But again, the market went up 33% in just four years!
Learn to Read

United States

#169193 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Here is your statement, Path. "P.S.: Only the US and France have working carriers." Questions? LMAO!
Jercque has declared that all the other working carriers are not real carriers since they aren't as big and powerful as the ones the US has.

Hmmmm .... I wonder if that same "logik" applies to countries?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169194 Aug 27, 2013
And then there is Bill Clinton.
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/presidenti...
Please note for the first two years the market was flat and that was when Congress was controlled by the .... Dummycarts. And then in 1994 the Republicans gained control of both Houses of Congress and in late 1994 Bill Clinton signed into law the first of FOUR Newt Gingrich's balanced budgets.
And then Newt Gingrich was forced from office by the Country Club RINOs and then the market started to dip!
Learn to Read

United States

#169195 Aug 27, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I should have realized that you are a sensible anti-birther. My point is still that although Obama's mother's passport file was made public under a FOI Act request, there was NO proof in it or anywhere else that she had a passport in 1961 (and of course without a passport she could not have gone to a foreign country). Similarly, while the file was made public, apparently the birthers who did so neglected to show the date on which the file was created. The date on which the file was created is unlikely to have been removed from the file, but the birther sites did not show it. And, again, the question is why? Why did they not tell that there is no evidence that Obama's mother had a passport? Why didn't they show the date on which the file was created?

For the same reason, they wanted to fool their gullible readers. They wanted them to assume that there was a reasonable chance that Obama's mother traveled abroad in 1961 so that their gullible readers might still think that there was a reasonable chance that the birth certificate might be forged and the officials of both parties lying. But, since the chances of her having made the trip at all are absurdly low, the combination of her having made the trip and the officials lying is even lower and even gullible folks would not be likely to believe it.
Point of order. Just because Jercque isn't a Birfoon doesn't mean he is anything close to sensible. In fact - Mr blind party loyalty clings to the fantasy that anyone who isn't as staunchly liberal as he is must be a Birther ... He also has displayed an amazing aversion to facts

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169196 Aug 27, 2013
And then there came Bush-43 and the Country Club RINOs were still in control over both Houses of Congress and deficit spending caused the dip followed by 9/11 and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but even during the wars the market started back up.
Then in 2006 the Housing Bubble bust and people moved their money from real estate to the stock market which cause a Stock Market Bubble which in turned like all bubbles, POPPED.
And then the Dummycrats got control over both Houses of Congress and the market took and even bigger dive.
And this just proves the more progressive the Congress, the worse the economy and the more Conservative the Congress, the better the economy!!!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169197 Aug 27, 2013
Oh goody, now there will be another run on guns and ammo. We should vote the Dummycrats the best gun and ammo salesmen of the year AGAIN!!!!

Dem Congressman Proposes 20% Tax On Handguns, 50% Tax On Ammo
http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/08/dem-congr...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#169198 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
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Twinkerbelle, have you heard me mention the White House, Oval Office or Presidency in any of my posts regarding Obobblehead's BC? Didn't think so. You may now close your mouth, you're letting flies out. Are your personal wittle feelings hurt? No one cares. Wise up, DAB!
Justice Dufus: "Motive is easy....greed, power, revenge, etc. Wise up, kid."

Again, Justice Dufus BELIEVES (note I didn't say "said") in the grandiose 50+ year conspiracy to capture the Oval Office.

Again, had the little tyke been born in Kenya he could have been naturalized with no waiting period. No motive for conspiracy,--->unless<-- - the three wise men appeared at the fabled grass hut and informed momma of his destiny as ---->POTUS<-----.

So if you ----->believe<----- there was a ---->motive<---- behind the grandiose Byzantine conspiracy, then you ---->believe<---- the White House was the object.

Does that help the reading comprehension challenged "Justice"?
wojar wrote:
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Sorry. No motive, no opportunity, no evidence.
So you --->believe<--- momma and Evil Grannie just knew he was destined to be President of the United States in 1961 and momma hid him in a Hogwarts invisibility cloak, sneaked him out of Kenya and into Hawaii and into Kapiolani Hospital and used her charms to get Dr. David A. Sinclair to sign the original vital records.
But if you wish to fantasize that Evil Grannie had a motive in 1961 to engineer the grandiose plot for the Oval Office please don't forget to keep your tinfoil hat on at all times.
If Barack H. Obama II had been born in Kenya he would have been eligible for pro forma naturalization. No need for any documents stating birth in US. That also shoots to hell the fake SSN fantasy.(Can birfoons figure out why? I'll bet not.)
The problem with birfoonism is it breaks down and self destructs unless the birfoon keeps the foil hat on and tenaciously clings to tunnel vision.
<quoted text>

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#169199 Aug 27, 2013
Hey, Play Justice, last time I checked, you don't have to be born in Hawaii to work at Baskin Robbins.

But Dufus didn't "mention" the friggin' White House.

What a riot.
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#169200 Aug 27, 2013
wojar wrote:
Hey, Play Justice, last time I checked, you don't have to be born in Hawaii to work at Baskin Robbins.
But Dufus didn't "mention" the friggin' White House.
What a riot.
But Obama WAS born in Hawaii.

For Obama to have been born in a foreign country:

(1) Obamaís relatives would have had to have been rich enough (and they werenít. In 1961 Obamaís grandfather was a furniture salesman, and his grandmother was a low-level employee in a bank [she did not become a vice president until 1971], and his father went from Kenya to Hawaii on a free flight) and dumb enough to send their daughter at high risk of stillbirth to a foreign country to give birthó-ódespite there being fine hospitals in Hawaii;

(2) Obamaís mother would have had to have traveled overseas ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961) and somehow got Obama back to the USA without getting him entered on her US passport or getting a visa for him (which would have had to have been applied for in a US consulate in that country and the records would still exist);

(3) got the officials in Hawaii to record his birth in Hawaii despite (as birthers claim) his being born in another country and somehow got the teacher who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about the birth in Hawaii of a child to a woman named Stanley to lie (and since the womanís fatherís name really was Stanley, she would have had to have found one of the very few women with fathers of that name to do it).

If you sincerely believe that Obama could have been born in a foreign country, then you could answer all three points. For Obama to have been born in a foreign country, all three would have had to have happened.

So, the question is, what are the chances that all three happened?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#169201 Aug 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Jercque has declared that all the other working carriers are not real carriers since they aren't as big and powerful as the ones the US has.
Hmmmm .... I wonder if that same "logik" applies to countries?
Yep, we use to maintain a carrier task force in the Med. but we can't now as we do not have enough carriers to go around. Just think if we had a carrier task force off of Libya on 9/1/2012?!?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#169202 Aug 27, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
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satans greatest deception is he wants everyone to believe he doesn't exist.
What makes more sense too me is that Humans sin and were born with iniquity.
Psalm 51:5
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
As there were about 10,000 humans in the founder population (without doubt many more than two) your "born with iniquity" hypothesis just crashed and burned, unless you believe in a God who could create something that was not good and you reject all Christian theology, in which case you just crashed and burned again.

Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death ...."

Literally false. Sorry.

So what about the other ~9,999? How were they born with iniquity?

It was the respected theologian, Professor Joseph Ratzinger (now known as Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) who said that the greatest challenge facing modern theologians is the doctrine of original sin.

Retrofitting theological doctrine that was tailor made to fit the literal Adam & Eve story to conform to current scientific knowledge is not a simply a "challenge".
Joe Biden

Jacksonville, FL

#169203 Aug 27, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
satans greatest deception is he wants everyone to believe he doesn't exist.
What makes more sense too me is that Humans sin and were born with iniquity.
Psalm 51:5
Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
Yep, and that is the reason why all Liberals should abort their babies, eh er, fetuses!
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#169204 Aug 27, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Point of order. Just because Jercque isn't a Birfoon doesn't mean he is anything close to sensible. In fact - Mr blind party loyalty clings to the fantasy that anyone who isn't as staunchly liberal as he is must be a Birther ... He also has displayed an amazing aversion to facts
Sure he has. Committed birthers, in contrast, have simply ignored the FACTS that birther site have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport or told their readers how few 18-year-olds had passports in 1961 or told their readers how extremely few American women traveled late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths. And yet committed birthers believe that Obama's mother was one of the few who had passports and one of the extremely few who traveled abroad late in pregnancy, and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961) are all lying.
Joe Biden

Jacksonville, FL

#169205 Aug 27, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Interracial marriages were illegal until 1967. Hmmm.....!
wojar wrote:
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In some hillbilly states.
Can you tell us which states are "hillbilly states"? Is it the one that has HillBilly Airport?
http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/04/hillbill...
Do you know that not until this past Spring, Arkansas did not have even one international airport? Florida has ... 17 international airports!
Oh, to be an international airport you must have a Customs Port of Entry.
Learn to Read

Bloomington, IN

#169206 Aug 27, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>Sure he has. Committed birthers, in contrast, have simply ignored the FACTS that birther site have not even shown that Obama's mother had a passport or told their readers how few 18-year-olds had passports in 1961 or told their readers how extremely few American women traveled late in pregnancy in 1961 because of the risk of stillbirths. And yet committed birthers believe that Obama's mother was one of the few who had passports and one of the extremely few who traveled abroad late in pregnancy, and that the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii (and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961) are all lying.
Just curious, do you ever actually comment or do you just repaste this over and over?

And yes, Jercque rejects any facts that conflict with his loyalty oath. He is very much like the Birfoons in that regard

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