BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#168687 Aug 23, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Cruz's father no longer has allegiance to Cuba,he immigrated to the United States. Obama's father never immigrated to the United States,he still held allegiance only to Kenya until his 1982 death in Kenya. Why is this statement so confusing to you?
Now Frank further embellishes on birfoon fantasy law. Two citizen parents at birth are not required in Birfoonistan so long as one of them becomes a citizen later. This is the doctrine according to the famous Vattel de la Birfoon.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to explain Frank. Rafael Cruz can have Cuban, Canadian and US citizenship just so long as he’s not black. The two citizen parent rule has been abolished in birfistand, a long form BC is no longer required and the birfoon favorite can be born anywhere in the world. I get it Frank. Always have.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#168688 Aug 23, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Our forefathers were very insightful when they wrote The Constitution. The knew that there was a possibility that someone with out allegiance to our country could assume a position as important an President of the United States,and could destroy our country from with in. Our founders adapted safeguards to insure that our country could survive corrupt and inefficient politicians,but with the help of bureaucrats and an ill informed voting base,Obama has been able to supersede those measures.
Indeed they were insightful, and their writings and words make it absolutely clear that Barack H. Obama II is a natural born citizen of the United Sates.

“It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.”–James Madison

“The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.” Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Essay #68.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168689 Aug 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
I appreciate your input. Something just doesn't add up. Just trying to answer some questions for myself. Do you really think your petty name-calling bothers me? LMAO! I want to see the "original". Not a computer generated document.
Something about people in hell and ice water comes to mind.

I doubt the DOH is going to put the original on bus tour encased in glass.

Without a court order, he... nor any other American is obligated to satisfy your inquiring mind.

Hell, I don't believe Kenyans would respond any differently.

You got what you asked for. An inquiry with the DOH, and a certified piece of certification complete with facts, dates and places. It has withstood every credible fact checking site on the world wide interweb networking doohicky that has been RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU for what I can only guess is consecutive years.

In addition, I can assume that you just don't like the guy. For whatever reason...it simply does not matter. Well, welcome to the club!

Guess what?

Nobody thinks he is a outstanding President. Most people would like to see someone else.

And if the laws of the universe were suspended and you did actually realize your distant hope, and maybe even prayer that he gets impeached or something were to happen to him physically.(Calm down now, this is hypothetical.)

The remainder of his term would be finished by Joe Biden. That's right, you get Biden. You are welcome!

Guess what is written on the inside of his ring!

You have the best of the available field when the smoke cleared. It is the depth of the field that is the problem. You get the rep. clown or the dem. clown. They are both agreed to be wall street's clowns.
Just me

Los Angeles, CA

#168690 Aug 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting read. There are just too many suspicious anomalies. Sorry, I'm not buying it.
http://oneway2day.wordpress.com/tag/birth-cer...
Is there anything new in the article? I've heard several theories and none of them make any sense. It took me forever to get the poor guy with the dead fish to realize that a document that was scanned and posted on a website could later be scanned again after it was folded and it didn't mean it wasn't the same document.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168691 Aug 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go .... again. Still can't understand Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity, can you?!? Yes, it is possible to be 8,000 God Years at the same time it is 6.5 Billion Earth years.
It is sort of like using millimeters to measure the distance to our nearest star when God uses Light Years.
Oh ye of little brains. The sky is falling!
Umm, no it isn't.

Take it from a guy with a degree in general relativity that you have no idea at all what you are talking about.

Unless you are saying that God... the creator of everything something outside of time and space... Lives on some dinky planet that takes 812,500 years to circle its respective star.

If THAT is what you are getting at, you are absolutely correct.

The theory of relativity operates just fine without him... and you.
Just me

Los Angeles, CA

#168692 Aug 23, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
The bottom line is that Obama never released the ORIGINAL complete long form birth certificate.
Call me a birther all you want but Obama is hiding something.
Try getting the custodian of your birth records to release the original to you and see how far you get.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#168693 Aug 23, 2013
Just me wrote:
<quoted text>
The original what? Do you expect to walk into the building which houses such documents and expect someone to stop what they're doing and show it to you? The image for which you posted the link is not a computer generated document. It's an electronic image of a copy of the original document which was photocopied onto a piece of paper which has a green background. This explanation would make perfect sense to almost anyone who has ever used a photocopier and many who have not.
Notice line 23 - Evidence for delayed filing or alterations -

http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/18/hawaii-co...

Description of HRS 338-17.8
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol0...

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#168694 Aug 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
trutherbirther wrote:
<quoted text>on his wedding band in Arabic it says "There is no god but Allah."
<quoted text>
Now I doubt whether there is anything but if you read your link the very last sentence says, " If there's any inscription on the ring at all, it's on the inner surface where we can't see it." Soooo we will probably never know, will we?!?
But to me it is a none issue.
Well Rogue, I would suspect the person who would spread gossip about parts of the ring he can see would certainly have no reservations about making up shit about parts he cannot see. The idea is to get others to believe.

I think John 20: 31 says it best.

“BUT THESE HAVE BEEN WRITTEN SO THAT YOU MAY BELIEVE” that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name.

Doesn’t matter if John’s book is pure fiction. It was written so that you may believe.

Want Obama to be a Muslim, Kenyan, un-American, not one of us,(whatever the hell that means), liar, forger or whatever, just make it up and post it on the internet and odds are over half the Republican Party will believe every lying word.

Truth no doubt becomes a casualty when the objective is simply to believe.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168695 Aug 23, 2013
Democracynow org wrote:
<quoted text>
Deniers of Ancient Israelite History Exposed
July 12, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/klztlfc
I was privileged this week to preview, before its release to the public, what may well prove to be a masterpiece of the documentary film-making art-a new look at the Biblical story of the Exodus from Egypt in the light of contemporary archeology and politics in the Middle East.
Filmmaker Tim Mahoney's The Exodus Conspiracy, due to be released within a few months, seeks to demonstrate the historical accuracy of the Biblical narrative of the exodus of the children of Israel from Egypt on the basis of recent archaeological discoveries and geographic explorations. A secondary thesis of the film is that the "Red Sea" crossed by the Israelites was the Gulf of Aquaba (called the Gulf of Eilat by modern-day Israelis), rather than "Sea of Reeds" in Egypt, as most Biblical scholars have always assumed, and that the true "Mount Sinai" or "Mount Horeb" of the Exodus narrative is in northern Saudi Arabia, and is not the Mt. Sinai shown to pilgrims and tourists over the centuries in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula.
At the same time, the film also documents the efforts of Arab governments, especially Egypt and Saudi Arabia, to suppress, or at least to seriously impede, the discovery and publication of archaeological data that would confirm the historicity of the Biblical narrative.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publicat...
Very interesting.

I would like to see the film.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#168696 Aug 23, 2013
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
75 percent of who polled Frank, Fox viewers? Romney’s entire campaign was predicated on the notion of repealing Obamacare and he took a severe ass whoopin at the only poll that counts.
By contrast Obama campaigned on reforming healthcare back in 2008 and both he and McCain’s proposals were very specific. Landslide victory!
So please speak for yourself Frank and stop trying to tell us what others don’t want because both election results speak for themselves.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Publications/...
Our country deserves health care reform. We still don't have health care reform,we are stuck with ObamaKare. After the Democrats leave office we may be able to fix this mess,but it may take decades.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#168697 Aug 23, 2013
Just me wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there anything new in the article? I've heard several theories and none of them make any sense. It took me forever to get the poor guy with the dead fish to realize that a document that was scanned and posted on a website could later be scanned again after it was folded and it didn't mean it wasn't the same document.
See, these are the problems. The document wasn't folded, then it was. There was no seal, then there was. See what I mean? Just curious, why was your friend carrying around a dead fish? That should have been the first red flag for you.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#168699 Aug 23, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Our country deserves health care reform. We still don't have health care reform,we are stuck with ObamaKare. After the Democrats leave office we may be able to fix this mess,but it may take decades.
Yep, simply allowing insurance companies to do business across state lines would have created competition, resulting in lower prices.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168700 Aug 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go .... again. Still can't understand Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity, can you?!? Yes, it is possible to be 8,000 God Years at the same time it is 6.5 Billion Earth years.
It is sort of like using millimeters to measure the distance to our nearest star when God uses Light Years.
Oh ye of little brains. The sky is falling!
<quoted text>
Can't understand Einstein's Theory of Relativity, can you? Is that 350 Million years in Earth years, Pluto years, the center of our galaxy years or the center of the universe years?
You do know that every planet in our solar system has a different year (one orbit of the Sun), don't you.
For instance, according to the people who live on Mercury, Earth takes four years to orbit the Sun. But the people on Pluto think we orbit the Sun in just 1.4 days.
Now nebka, are you big or small? It is all relative. To an ant, you are big but to an elephant you are small.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FHsAW2ScTuoXX
OHHH!!!!

For the love of...

That IS what he was getting at!

You have got to be kidding me.
You TRUELY... NEVER know what they are going to say next!

The first issue I have to get out of the way is that that has zero to do with relativity.

It has to do with perspective of time as a human. Relativity doesn't even consider the existence of humans.

The second issue that I have to take is that you think it is totally rational that The ALPHA and effing OMEGA is chilling on a ball of rock and probably water in some distant galaxy. If this is what it takes for you to make it work for yourself... hey, whatever. But don't go dragging science into it. Thanks.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168701 Aug 23, 2013
How many dog years is a god year?

Let's see...

To do this properly we would need to take 10.5 years for the first two years ...22 years

Then 4 years for every year after...812,500 times 4 is 32,500,000 plus 22 ....

32,500,022 Dog years in a God year.

And knowing is half the battle!
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#168702 Aug 23, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
How many dog years is a god year?
Let's see...
To do this properly we would need to take 10.5 years for the first two years ...22 years
Then 4 years for every year after...812,500 times 4 is 32,500,000 plus 22 ....
32,500,022 Dog years in a God year.
And knowing is half the battle!
Dog spelled backwards is God. Isn't that amazing!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#168703 Aug 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you're as bright as a dirt clod. High res? LMAO! Tell me bright one, how does a 50+ year old document remain in such pristine condition? It doesn't. So, where did this document, which is missing information, come from? That green security paper wasn't invented until the 90's, I think. But, you're much too bright to let any of that get by you, right? LMAO!
I went to DoH (in 2002) in the town I was born and got a freshly printed BC copied from the original vital record 50 years prior. I got crisp new document printed on 2002 security paper. That's how it works, birfoon.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

RationalState

#168704 Aug 23, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
Romper math:
Date document issued - June 6, 2007
Date of birth - August 4, 1961
Pathetic ignorant puss: "Since Obama was born in 1961 and is now 52 years old, the COLB that was issued in June, 2007 is a 52 year old document"
Gee - no flaw in that "logik".
With a time machine it would be possible to get a document that was almost exactly "the same". According to birfoons this proves something.

BTW, that reminds me when ATMs were new and somewhat rare. I had an account with a card used for "TYME" (Take Your Money Everywhere) machines. I went to a bar and mentioned I need to get to the TYME machine to get more cash. The bartender asked me, "and what time are you from?"

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168705 Aug 23, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Dog spelled backwards is God. Isn't that amazing!
Not in the remotest sense of the word.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#168706 Aug 23, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Hummm, they are being called "The Twenty-Niners". These are the people who are being hired by Big Companies (over 50 employees) who will not be allowed to work over 29 hours a week. Another unintended consequence of ObamaCare.
In fact, two-thirds of all people who have found work since ObamaCare, was signed into law, are Twenty-Niners.
But People like Jacqueau thinks that is great as that means employers have to employ 33% more people which make the unemployment numbers drop.
I’ve seen it happen time and time again Rogue. No way can that type of arrogance be sustained. Pay your workers a decent 40 hr a week wage (with benefits) and that employee has incentive to be there every day.

Eventually part time workers will become so overwhelmed between those not showing up for work and those there being over worked that business will suffer. Especially in the fast food industry or any other business for that matter.

Many businesses with over 50 employees already understand this which is why they already provide health insurance for their full time employee’s

The good news is now mom and pop who own the cute little boutique on the corner can now afford to purchase their own plan.

But you keep right on rooting for the Olive Garden’s, Walmart’s and Papa John’s Rogue and maybe one day a part time worker will overhear you and shit in your root beer.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#168707 Aug 23, 2013
If Rouge had insight into how many times God's planet rotated in a God year, I could do some amazing stuff.

Please tell me you are privy to this ultimate piece of trivia.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Chicago Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 4 min No Surprize 1,144,186
Are you sick of Topix polls or do you vote? 13 min well 3
EverGreen Belgrade 19 min servonazis 17
Ferguson Protesters Promise 28-Hour Sit-In At C... 1 hr Liberal Lover 2
Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds ... (Dec '08) 1 hr Stop Global Changing 48,588
World's Best Photo Art 2 hr Monte 4
Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas decl... (Jan '09) 5 hr TRD 68,795
Chicago Dating
Find my Match

Chicago People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Chicago News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Chicago

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]

NFL Latest News

Updated 1:09 pm PST

Bleacher Report 1:09PM
All-Iron Award 2014: Calvin Johnson Wins Thanksgiving Day Award
NBC Sports 1:11 PM
Griffin addresses media, says he's here to help the team win
Yahoo! Sports 1:24 PM
Lions boost playoff hopes with mauling of Bears
ESPN 1:25 PM
Lions boost playoff hopes with rout of Bears
Bleacher Report 2:19 PM
Robert Griffin III Comments on Being Benched by Redskins HC Jay Gruden