BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...
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Reading still not a strong point with you, eh? Must be as you wrote : "And if you think you Canadian as exempt form another American recession, you be wrongeau! " I've said about a hundred times here that whatever happens in the U.S. pretty much influences the rest of the world, including Canada. I could tell you why but it would take about 4 lines and your attention span is too wanting to waste my time.
What a burden it must be to go through life knowing that you are superior intellectually to the rest of the world. Having to suffer fools that simply cannot figure "it" out while there you are with all the answers. Its a shame your not president, since most liberals in all their compassion feel compelled to "share" their wisdom by seeking power over the rest and deciding for them what their wants and needs are. Imagine what kind of country or world we would live in if all of the MENSA folks like yourself just disappeared? Crazy things like liberty and freedom for the individual may actually exist.

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And to top it all off, he presented his BC without hesitation and it wasn't loaded with mistakes. Imagine that. Wonder why Obumblehead couldn't do that? Hmmmm...could it be he is a fake? Absolutely!
Yup, here is the top law official of Texas, Ted Cruz, and he doesn't know he's a Canadian citizen. Didn't realise, said he. Wow.

As I said, he's born from only one American parent IN CANADA and birthers like you see no problem with that. He even holds dual nationality. He does, like it or not as he did not know, I repeat, top Texas law official, did not know that he had to renounce it. But let's say (not true) Obama was born in Kenya from one American parent. According to birthers, he is an alien, and not only is he not fit to be president according to natural born blah blah blah, he's not even an American citizen says to law expert Frank.

How it works both ways for birthers. McCain, Romney and now Cruz are all A-Okay. But not Obama, that illegal black occupant of the WHITE House. Wonderful.

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Aug 20, 2013
 
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Blacks are Screwed By no one else but Themselves
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Did you even both to watch the Bill Cosby video?
Yes I did, you've shown it at least 3 different times. The context in which Cosby is speaking is unknown to you, you don't "get" it, you don't understand it but it fits your racist views on Blacks and that is what suits you. Just the fact that you call Blacks racist shows the unfathomable depth of your ignorance.

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Then you should have no problem showing us an example!
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Didn't think you could show me any document. Thanks for proving me write again.
YOU again dare ask for proof or documents? YOU? Where's your proof that :

1) Russia and Germany both approved the invasion of Iraq;

2) the UN assembly AND security council both approved the invasion of Iraq;

3. that there were WMDs in Iraq, coupled with the presence of Al Qaeda and Iranians.

Waiting. Sigh. Waiting. Waiting for 50 others beside the above three.

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Naw, dose Dems ain't worried much. Iffin' Obama be legal, so be Crews.
Possible presidential candidate Ted Cruz a citizen of U.S. and Canada, report says; Ruth Mantell -August 19, 2013
Sen. Ted Cruz, a conservative Republican and possible White House contender, was born in Canada to an American mother and is a citizen of both countries, according to a Dallas Morning News report published this weekend.
Citing legal experts, the story said Cruz will be a citizen of the U.S. and Canada unless he renounces citizenship to one of the countries. Cruz’s birth certificate, released to the Dallas Morning News, shows that he was born in Calgary, and his mother was from Delaware.
However,“there is nothing to renounce,” a Cruz spokeswoman said, according to the story.
“He never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen. To our knowledge, he never had Canadian citizenship,” according to a quote from Catherine Frazier in the Dallas Morning News story.
You and journalist Catherine Fraser must be vying for the highest ignorance podium. You're born in Canada, you are Canadian, same as in U.S. and most countries on this earth unless your parents were diplomats. This guy Cruz, top law official in Texas, did not even know that. Impressive. Should make a great president. But then, he's Tea Party LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Canada breathes a sigh of relief as his parents opted to move to the U.S. We already have a Cruz clone in power right now, name of Stephen Harper.

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Breaking news Rouge. Teddy has announced that he will renounce his Canadian citizenship. Looks like another Birfoon hero fails the Birfoon litmus test
By the way - where is Dufus Dale? His play law would declare Teddy to be a citizen of Cuba ... Now that would really be funny
Dufus Dale was duly appointed Justice Dale by Justice ha ha LRS, aka Justice ho ho Dale.

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Ah, there you go again injecting race into the issue. I want people to challenge Crew's NBC status. WHY might you ask? So we can settle this issue once and for all.
Again, in you Libtardian mind, if only 13% of our population are black, than no more than 13% of people that are stopped by police should be black and prison populations should be limited to being 13% black too.
That last sentence. Once more outrageously irrelevant and not comprehended by the unwashed, illiterate and ignoramus Rogue.

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What a burden it must be to go through life knowing that you are superior intellectually to the rest of the world. Having to suffer fools that simply cannot figure "it" out while there you are with all the answers. Its a shame your not president, since most liberals in all their compassion feel compelled to "share" their wisdom by seeking power over the rest and deciding for them what their wants and needs are. Imagine what kind of country or world we would live in if all of the MENSA folks like yourself just disappeared? Crazy things like liberty and freedom for the individual may actually exist.
Why, thank you.

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Actually I wish he runs and that the Libtards challenge him in court as it might just backfire on them.
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Rafael will run and “if” he’s challenged it will no doubt come from birfistan. We’ve been trying to educate you on this issue for years. It is you who have now apparently come around just as we always knew you would just as soon the candidates got a little lighter.
Oh, you are sure it will come from "birfistan"? You do know the original Birthers were Clintonestas (democrats), don't you? Oh course you are think there are no Black people or Democrats in the TEA Party movement too!

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You and journalist Catherine Fraser must be vying for the highest ignorance podium. You're born in Canada, you are Canadian, same as in U.S. and most countries on this earth unless your parents were diplomats. This guy Cruz, top law official in Texas, did not even know that. Impressive. Should make a great president. But then, he's Tea Party LMAO (LRS tm reg'd). Canada breathes a sigh of relief as his parents opted to move to the U.S. We already have a Cruz clone in power right now, name of Stephen Harper.
I hate to tell you but if you are born in South Korea and your father is not Korean, you do not exist. You see, in Korea they do not have birth certificates. They have Family Registries.
When a child is born, if he has a Korean father, he is placed on his father's registry regardless of where he is born. If the Child is born in Korea and his father is not Korean, he has no family registry to be placed on and therefore, does not exist!
And child born to a Mexican citizen is also automatically a Mexican citizen regardless of where he is born. And if you born out side the U.S. or it's territories, and are given a DS-1350 after you are born, you are a Natural Born Citizen

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Ah, there you go again injecting race into the issue. I want people to challenge Crew's NBC status. WHY might you ask? So we can settle this issue once and for all.
Again, in you Libtardian mind, if only 13% of our population are black, than no more than 13% of people that are stopped by police should be black and prison populations should be limited to being 13% black too.
Don’t be a fool Rogue! Race has been an issue since the 08 campaign and you of all people well know it.

Obviously your percentages fall apart when the stop rate is substantially higher for one group than the other. More stops, more arrest, more jail. 52 percent of all arrest in this country is for marijuana.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...

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I hate to tell you but if you are born in South Korea and your father is not Korean, you do not exist. You see, in Korea they do not have birth certificates. They have Family Registries.
When a child is born, if he has a Korean father, he is placed on his father's registry regardless of where he is born. If the Child is born in Korea and his father is not Korean, he has no family registry to be placed on and therefore, does not exist!
And child born to a Mexican citizen is also automatically a Mexican citizen regardless of where he is born. And if you born out side the U.S. or it's territories, and are given a DS-1350 after you are born, you are a Natural Born Citizen
You wrote : " hate to tell you but if you are born in South Korea and your father is not Korean, you do not exist. You see, in Korea they do not have birth certificates. They have Family Registries."

Re-read, Rogue. I wrote "in most countries". Probably also Switzerland where getting citizenship is well nigh impossible if you're not born there from both Swiss parents. But, what I wrote hold in MOST countries, though not all. Got it? Based on Birther claims, where they have lost 209 times, Obama is more American than Cruz, as he had to renounce nothing.

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Black Birthers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4sjPBQ7IqNIXX
Yeah that was cute Rogue, but they were poking fun at the birfoon.

And yes I do know “a few” Hillary supporters were the original birfoon until they found the birth announcements and common sense afforded them only one conclusion.

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Poppo,
I never once questioned Barack Obama's place of birth.
It didn't matter to me. I knew all along he could not be trusted not matter where he was form.
That makes me better than the Clintons by far.
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That's right, Poppo.
Barack Obama is a big letdown.
I knew it all along.
Egypt and Syria will be his legacy.
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Poppo,
There is no middle of the road in the Middle East.
Barack Obama's Middle East foreign policy is an epic failure.
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Actually I wish he runs and that the Libtards challenge him in court as it might just backfire on them.
Oh, you are sure it will come from "birfistan"? You do know the original Birthers were Clintonestas (democrats), don't you? Oh course you are think there are no Black people or Democrats in the TEA Party movement too!
I bet Ted is really happy none of the States passed their "present proof you are NBC using a LFBC issued by a State" or "two citizen parents" teaquirements. That could have been embarrassing

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Rouge here is something to read
Climate Panel Cites Near Certainty on Warming
An international panel of scientists has found with near certainty that human activity is the cause of most of the temperature increases of recent decades, and warns that sea levels could conceivably rise by more than three feet by the end of the century if emissions continue at a runaway pace.
The scientists, whose findings are reported in a draft summary of the next big United Nations climate report, largely dismiss a recent slowdown in the pace of warming, which is often cited by climate change doubters, attributing it most likely to short-term factors.
The report emphasizes that the basic facts about future climate change are more established than ever, justifying the rise in global concern. It also reiterates that the consequences of escalating emissions are likely to be profound.
“It is extremely likely that human influence on climate caused more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010,” the draft report says.“There is high confidence that this has warmed the ocean, melted snow and ice, raised global mean sea level and changed some climate extremes in the second half of the 20th century.”
The draft comes from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a body of several hundred scientists that won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007, along with Al Gore. Its summaries, published every five or six years, are considered the definitive assessment of the risks of climate change, and they influence the actions of governments around the world. Hundreds of billions of dollars are being spent on efforts to reduce greenhouse emissions, for instance, largely on the basis of the group’s findings.
The coming report will be the fifth major assessment from the group, created in 1988. Each report has found greater certainty that the planet is warming and greater likelihood that humans are the primary cause.
The 2007 report found “unequivocal” evidence of warming, but hedged a little on responsibility, saying the chances were at least 90 percent that human activities were the cause. The language in the new draft is stronger, saying the odds are at least 95 percent that humans are the principal cause.
On sea level, which is one of the biggest single worries about climate change, the new report goes well beyond the assessment published in 2007, which largely sidestepped the question of how much the ocean could rise this century.
The new report also reiterates a core difficulty that has plagued climate science for decades: While averages for such measures as temperature can be predicted with some confidence on a global scale, the coming changes still cannot be forecast reliably on a local scale. That leaves governments and businesses fumbling in the dark as they try to plan ahead.
On another closely watched issue, the scientists retreated slightly from their 2007 position.
Regarding the question of how much the planet could warm if carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere doubled, the previous report largely ruled out any number below 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. The new draft says the rise could be as low as 2.7 degrees, essentially restoring a scientific consensus that prevailed from 1979 to 2007.
But the draft says only that the low number is possible, not that it is likely. Many climate scientists see only a remote chance that the warming will be that low, with the published evidence suggesting that an increase above 5 degrees Fahrenheit is more likely if carbon dioxide doubles.
The level of carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas, is up 41 percent since the Industrial Revolution, and if present trends continue it could double in a matter of decades.
Warming the entire planet by 5 degrees Fahrenheit would add a stupendous amount of energy to the climate system. Scientists say the increase would be greater over land and might exceed 10 degrees at the poles.

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Warming the entire planet by 5 degrees Fahrenheit would add a stupendous amount of energy to the climate system. Scientists say the increase would be greater over land and might exceed 10 degrees at the poles.

They add that such an increase would lead to widespread melting of land ice, extreme heat waves, difficulty growing food and massive changes in plant and animal life, probably including a wave of extinctions.

The new document is not final and will not become so until an intensive, closed-door negotiating session among scientists and government leaders in Stockholm in late September. But if the past is any guide, most of the core findings of the document will survive that final review.

The document was leaked over the weekend after it was sent to a large group of people who had signed up to review it. It was first reported on in detail by the Reuters news agency, and The New York Times obtained a copy independently to verify its contents.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change does no original research, but instead periodically assesses and summarizes the published scientific literature on climate change.

The draft document “is likely to change in response to comments from governments received in recent weeks and will also be considered by governments and scientists at a four-day approval session at the end of September,” the panel’s spokesman, Jonathan Lynn, said in a statement Monday.“It is therefore premature and could be misleading to attempt to draw conclusions from it.”

After winning the Nobel Peace Prize six years ago, the group became a political target for climate doubters, who helped identify minor errors in the 2007 report. This time, the panel adopted rigorous procedures in the hope of preventing such mistakes.

Some climate doubters challenge the idea that the earth is warming at all; others concede that it is, but deny human responsibility; still others acknowledge a human role, but assert that the warming is likely to be limited and the impacts manageable. Every major scientific academy in the world has warned that global warming is a serious problem.

The panel shifted to a wider range for the potential warming, dropping the plausible low end to 2.7 degrees, after a wave of recent studies saying higher estimates were unlikely. But those studies are contested, and scientists at Stockholm are likely to debate whether to stick with that language.

Michael E. Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University, said he feared the intergovernmental panel, in writing its draft, had been influenced by criticism from climate doubters, who advocate even lower numbers.“I think the I.P.C.C. on this point has once again erred on the side of understating the degree of the likely changes,” Dr. Mann said.

However, Christopher B. Field, a researcher at the Carnegie Institution for Science who serves on the panel but was not directly involved in the new draft, said the group had to reflect the full range of plausible scientific views.

“I think that the I.P.C.C. has a tradition of being very conservative,” Dr. Field said.“They really want the story to be right.”

Regarding the likely rise in sea level over the coming century, the new report lays out several possibilities. In the most optimistic, the world’s governments would prove far more successful at getting emissions under control than they have been in the recent past, helping to limit the total warming.

In that circumstance, sea level could be expected to rise as little as 10 inches by the end of the century, the report found. That is a bit more than the eight-inch increase in the 20th century, which proved manageable even though it caused severe erosion along the world’s shorelines.

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