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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168035 Aug 19, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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Can't be...Poppo, have you and two buddies ever went to Mexico, pull an all-nighter then on the way back got a flat on the 215 and Vanburen, hitched a ride with Riverside's Hazmat Unit to the entrance of March Airforce base?
If by "all nighter", you mean getting drunk, No. I never drank, don't drink and at this stage in life don't intend to start. And I never did approach the entrance of March Air force base.

Mind you, this is my opinion only, but for me, there are two ways to get drunk :

a) the spontaneous way, you just innocently drink too much, it's accidental;

b) the intentional and planned drunken binge or bender. Stupid, childish, stupid, childish, stupid, childish. And not only do you miss he fun, if ever you had any at all, you don't remember it.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#168037 Aug 19, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
<quoted text>You can stop your stupidity as soon as you can answer these questions.

A forged document can only contain phony facts!
A forged document is an illegal document, no matter what it reports as phony facts.
If the facts were true, there would be no need for a forgery.
If the facts were true, one could get a certified copy of the document that would withstand scrutiny.
That Obama has not done!

Let's have a dialogue based on facts about the subject of this thread.
I have two questions.

Tell us, how can you prove a Hawaiian birth with a fraudulent birth certificate?
You can't!
What is the only thing that a fraudulent document proves?
It proves that fraud has been committed!

Incidentally, this can only mean that you will remain stupid, because we both know that you can't or won't answer them truthfully.
"On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth."

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama....

And the poor illiterate Birfoon can't comprehend English and so insists that this very clear statement doesn't mean what it says. Sucks to be Tacky

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168038 Aug 19, 2013
[Fox News Makes You Stupid wrote:
Top judge: US and UK acted as 'vigilantes' in Iraq invasion
Former senior law lord condemns 'serious violation of international law'
18 November 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/5mogau
One of Britain's most authoritative judicial figures last night delivered a blistering attack on the invasion of Iraq, describing it as a serious violation of international law, and accusing Britain and the US of acting like a "world vigilante".
Lord Bingham, in his first major speech since retiring as the senior law lord, rejected the then attorney general's defence of the 2003 invasion as fundamentally flawed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/i ...
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Top Ten Myths about Iraq, 2008
by Juan Cole / December 26, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/6sed4v
1. Iraqis are safer because of Bush's War. >>>>>
2. Large numbers of Iraqis in exile abroad have returned. >>>
3. Iraqis are materially better off because of Bush's war. >>>>
4. The Bush administration scored a major victory with its Status of Forces Agreement.>>>>> >>>>>
5. Minorities in Iraq are safer since Bush's invasion. >>>>>>> >>
6. The sole explanation for the fall in the monthly death rate for Iraqi civilians was the troop excalation or surge of 30,000 extra US troops in 2007. >>>>>>>
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Sobering to say the least
Well, have you noticed that those articles were posted around the 2008 election? WHY??? Now, how has Iraq done since Obama pulled us out of there? And now Iraq wants our military intelligence to help them out!
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press Friday, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168039 Aug 19, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
"On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth."
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama....
And the poor illiterate Birfoon can't comprehend English and so insists that this very clear statement doesn't mean what it says. Sucks to be Tacky
You are totally wrong. It is not only not a copy of his birth certificate, it is not a copy of anything. This has been proven to be only a computer generate thing.
Even the State of Hawaii will not claim it is a copy of any document. They have only stated that the "information is correct", and nothing more.
Fox News Makes You Stupid

Sayville, NY

#168040 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
[Fox News Makes You Stupid wrote:
Top judge: US and UK acted as 'vigilantes' in Iraq invasion
Former senior law lord condemns 'serious violation of international law'
18 November 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/5mogau
One of Britain's most authoritative judicial figures last night delivered a blistering attack on the invasion of Iraq, describing it as a serious violation of international law, and accusing Britain and the US of acting like a "world vigilante".
Lord Bingham, in his first major speech since retiring as the flawed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/i ...
=========
Top Ten Myths about Iraq, 2008
by Juan Cole / December 26, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/6sed4v
1. Iraqis are safer because of Bush's War. >>>>>
2. Large numbers of Iraqis in exile abroad have returned. >>>
3. Iraqis are materially better off because of Bush's war. >>>>
4. The Bush administration scored a major victory with its Status of Forces Agreement.>>>>> >>>>>
5. Minorities in Iraq are safer since Bush's invasion. >>>>>>> >>
6. The sole explanation for the fall in the monthly death rate for Iraqi civilians was the troop excalation or surge of 30,000 extra US troops in 2007. >>>>>>>
<quoted text>
Well, have you noticed that those articles were posted around the 2008 election? WHY??? Now, how has Iraq done since Obama pulled us out of there? And now Iraq wants our military intelligence to help them out!
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press Friday, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Iraq and Afghanistan are still in disarray and violence all because of Bush and Cheney.

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"I'm not sure which planet they live on"
Hawks in the Bush administration may be making deadly miscalculations on Iraq, says Gen. Anthony Zinni, Bush's Middle East envoy.
Oct 17, 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/8wxp4b
President Bush continues to encounter war critics in the unlikeliest of places — the United States military, for example. Last summer, retired Gen. Brent Scowcroft, who served as national security advisor to Bush’s father during the Gulf War, bluntly expressed his doubt about a unilateral war against Iraq. A few weeks later, a trio of four-star generals appeared before Congress to echo that concern.

One of them was Gen. Wesley Clark, a former NATO military commander.“If we go in unilaterally, or without the full weight of international organizations behind us, if we go in with a very sparse number of allies, if we go in without an effective information operation … we’re liable to supercharge recruiting for al-Qaida,” Clark said.

Now comes retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former head of Central Command for U.S. forces in the Middle East, who has worked recently as the State Department’s envoy to the region with a mission to encourage talks between Palestinians and Israelis. Zinni, a Purple Heart recipient who served in Vietnam and helped command forces in the Gulf War and in Somalia, spoke last Thursday in Washington at the Middle East Institute’s annual conference and laid out his own reservations about a potential war with Iraq.
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2002/...
Fox News Makes You Stupid

Sayville, NY

#168041 Aug 19, 2013
War in Iraq's aftermath hits troops hard
7/21/2003 / http://tinyurl.com/hwtn
WASHINGTON — On March 16, just three days before the first U.S. bombs fell on Iraq, Vice President Cheney signaled on NBC's Meet the Press what sort of war the Bush administration thought American troops were about to fight: "Things have gotten so bad inside Iraq ... we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators," Cheney said.
But so far, the verdict on the aftermath of that campaign is much harsher. More than three months after Baghdad fell, American soldiers are not being treated like liberators. Instead, they are mired in a guerrilla war, according to Gen. John Abizaid, the commander of U.S. forces in the region. Shadowy forces prey on U.S. troops, sabotage the nation's electric grid and other vital infrastructure, and spread fear among average Iraqis that Saddam is coming back.
Administration officials say the violence will eventually subside. But as of mid-July, even the top U.S. official in Iraq was offering no clear forecast for when. "We need to be patient," Paul Bremer, the U.S. administrator for Iraq, told Meet the Press on Sunday. While expressing confidence that resistance could be overcome, he conceded that "we are going to be there for a while. I don't know how many years."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-...

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Pentagon unit defied CIA advice to justify Iraq war
Alternative' agency set up to link Saddam to al-Qaida
Mainstream intelligence was cast aside, Senate told
10 February 2007 / http://tinyurl.com/8o32ay
An "alternative intelligence" unit operating at the Pentagon in the run-up to the war on Iraq was dedicated to establishing a link between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida, even though the CIA was unconvinced of such a connection, the US Senate was told yesterday.
A report presented to the armed services committee by the Pentagon's inspector general, Thomas Gimble, exposes the Bush administration to new charges of manipulating intelligence to make its case for going to war against Saddam nearly four years ago.
Mr Gimble described a unit called the Office for Special Plans, authorised by then Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld and overseen by the former policy chief Douglas Feith, to review raw intelligence on Iraq. The main focus of the unit was establishing a link between Saddam and al-Qaida - going against the consensus in the intelligence community that the Iraqi leader had nothing to do with the September 11 2001 terror attacks./ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/10/u...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168042 Aug 19, 2013
iava org wrote:
<quoted text>
President Cheney, Vice President Rummy and the Dummy Bush will go down in all of American history as the worst administration ever.
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Report Spotlights Iraq Rebuilding Blunders
December 13, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/586joh
BAGHDAD — An unpublished 513-page federal history of the American-led reconstruction of Iraq depicts an effort crippled before the invasion by Pentagon planners who were hostile to the idea of rebuilding a foreign country, and then molded into a $100 billion failure by bureaucratic turf wars, spiraling violence and ignorance of the basic elements of Iraqi society and infrastructure.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/world/middl ...
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
AMEN
It is not the military's job to rebuild nations. Their job is the break the enemies will to continue to war against us. I was not in favor of rebuilding their country because they are Muslims and, unlike German and Japan, will NEVER REFORM their ways.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168043 Aug 19, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
<quoted text>
We all know IAVA is a loony-left organization made up of over 90% of NONE military vets from the loony-tooney-left.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree that there are no looney-tooney-left veterans in that organization.
Does Rougie know what 90% of none equals?
So does Rougie comprehend what over 90% of none from the left means according to the English language?
Yep, a poorly written sentence. My point being, other than a token number of military vets, the rest are all loony-tooney-lefty civilians.
You see, the left like to take on a moniker that makes them look mainstream, when in fact they are anything put. The IAVA claims to be none partisan when they are ultra far left like YOU!
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#168044 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>You are totally wrong. It is not only not a copy of his birth certificate, it is not a copy of anything. This has been proven to be only a computer generate thing.
Even the State of Hawaii will not claim it is a copy of any document. They have only stated that the "information is correct", and nothing more.
Another illiterate Birfoon who can't comprehend English and has no clue what the word "proven" means

The State of Hawaii clearly and plainly states

"On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth."

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama....

What part of "a certified copy of his original" confuses you most Jercque err Rouge

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#168046 Aug 19, 2013
"This pogrom against Egypt's historic Christian community is more bloody proof that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a fit partner for a future democratic Egypt but an avowed enemy of democracy, equality and freedom. The violent targeting of an entire religious community comprising millions of fellow citizens, its longstanding hatred of the Jewish people, its intolerance of any Muslim who does not share their theology or world view, confirms to the world what the Muslim Brotherhood really is - an extremist hate group."

Simon Weisenthal Center, 16 August 2013
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#168047 Aug 19, 2013
"Canadian lawyers told the Morning News that Cruz's birth in Canada also instantly conferred upon him Canadian citizenship, though a spokeswoman for Cruz said he was not aware of having dual citizenship."

http://politi.co/13yMk40

So Birfoons - is "I didn't know" a defense against dual citizenship?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168048 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>You are totally wrong. It is not only not a copy of his birth certificate, it is not a copy of anything. This has been proven to be only a computer generate thing.
Even the State of Hawaii will not claim it is a copy of any document. They have only stated that the "information is correct", and nothing more.
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Another illiterate Birfoon who can't comprehend English and has no clue what the word "proven" means
The State of Hawaii clearly and plainly states
"On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth."
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama....
What part of "a certified copy of his original" confuses you most Jercque err Rouge
Sorry, THEY lied. The image on the internet is NOT a copy of any document and has been proven to be a fraud!
Okay, show us a copy of another document that resembles the one Obama posted? There isn't any!
Fox News Makes You Stupid

Sayville, NY

#168049 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
[Fox News Makes You Stupid wrote:
Top judge: US and UK acted as 'vigilantes' in Iraq invasion
Former senior law lord condemns 'serious violation of international law'
18 November 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/5mogau
One of Britain's most authoritative judicial figures last night delivered a blistering attack on the invasion of Iraq, describing it as a serious violation of international law, and accusing Britain and the US of acting like a "world vigilante".
Lord Bingham, in his first major speech since retiring as the senior law lord, rejected the then attorney general's defence of the 2003 invasion as fundamentally flawed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/i ...
=========
Top Ten Myths about Iraq, 2008
by Juan Cole / December 26, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/6sed4v
1. Iraqis are safer because of Bush's War. >>>>>
2. Large numbers of Iraqis in exile abroad have returned. >>>
3. Iraqis are materially better off because of Bush's war. >>>>
4. The Bush administration scored a major victory with its Status of Forces Agreement.>>>>> >>>>>
5. Minorities in Iraq are safer since Bush's invasion. >>>>>>> >>
6. The sole explanation for the fall in the monthly death rate for Iraqi civilians was the troop excalation or surge of 30,000 extra US troops in 2007. >>>>>>>
<quoted text>
Well, have you noticed that those articles were posted around the 2008 election? WHY??? Now, how has Iraq done since Obama pulled us out of there? And now Iraq wants our military intelligence to help them out!
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press Friday, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Senate committee: Bush knew Iraq claims weren't true
June 5, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/55f74x
WASHINGTON — President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top officials promoted the invasion of Iraq with public statements that weren't supported by intelligence or that concealed differences among intelligence agencies, the Senate Intelligence Committee said on Thursday in a report that was delayed by bitter partisan infighting.
A second report found that a special office set up under then-secretary of defense Donald H. Rumsfeld conducted "sensitive intelligence activities" that were inappropriate "without the knowledge of the Intelligence Community or the State Department." That report revealed that Pentagon counterintelligence officials suspected that Iran might have tried to use the group to influence administration policymakers.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/244/story/39963.ht...
Fox News Makes You Stupid

Sayville, NY

#168050 Aug 19, 2013
Where are Iraq's Pentagon papers?
By Daniel Ellsberg | February 22, 2004 / http://tinyurl.com/24etb
AS MORE and more of our young men and women come home from Iraq crippled or in body bags this election season, Americans ask, with increasing urgency, "Why did we send our children to die in Iraq? Was this war necessary?" Indeed, Tim Russert asked the president precisely that on "Meet the Press" a few weeks ago: "In light of not finding the weapons of mass destruction, do you believe the war in Iraq is a war of choice or a war of necessity?"
President Bush replied "It's a war of necessity.... the man was a threat.... the evidence we have uncovered so far says we had no choice."
To the contrary. The evidence uncovered so far says that Saddam was not a threat, to us or his neighbors. Nor -- lacking any evidence of complicity in 9/11 or links to Al Qaeda -- was there a persuasive case that he would have been a significant threat even if he had possessed WMDs.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_op...

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CIA Probe Finds Secret Pentagon Group Manipulated Intelligence on Iraqi Threat / July 25, 2003 / http://tinyurl.com/ljbsh9v
half-dozen former CIA agents investigating prewar intelligence have found that a secret Pentagon committee, set up by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in October 2001, manipulated reams of intelligence information prepared by the spy agency on the so-called Iraqi threat and then delivered it to top White House officials who used it to win support for a war in Iraq.

The former CIA agents were asked to examine prewar intelligence last year by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and CIA Director George Tenet. The former agents will present a final report on their findings to the Pentagon, the CIA and possibly the Senate and/or Congress later this year.

More than a dozen calls to the White House, the CIA, the National Security Council and the Pentagon for comment were not returned.

The ad-hoc committee, called the Office of Special Plans, headed by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and other Pentagon hawks, described the worst-case scenarios in terms of Iraq's alleged stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and claimed the country was close to acquiring nuclear weapons, according to four of the CIA agents, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the information is still classified, who conducted a preliminary view of the intelligence. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB254...
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#168051 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>You are totally wrong. It is not only not a copy of his birth certificate, it is not a copy of anything. This has been proven to be only a computer generate thing.
Even the State of Hawaii will not claim it is a copy of any document. They have only stated that the "information is correct", and nothing more.

Sorry, THEY lied. The image on the internet is NOT a copy of any document and has been proven to be a fraud!
Okay, show us a copy of another document that resembles the one Obama posted? There isn't any!
So first Jercque err Rouge claims that Hawaii won't confirm that it his Birth Certificate. Then he admits that they did and claims that they lied? Actually Rouge "lied" when he Tepeatedly claimed that Hawaii wouldn't confirm the document

So moron throwing around words you don't understand ... where's that "proof" that it is fraudulent?

Hint for illiterate Birfoon ... Repeating the same tired fable over and over and over is not "proof" of anything except how pathetic you are

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168052 Aug 19, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
"This pogrom against Egypt's historic Christian community is more bloody proof that the Muslim Brotherhood is not a fit partner for a future democratic Egypt but an avowed enemy of democracy, equality and freedom. The violent targeting of an entire religious community comprising millions of fellow citizens, its longstanding hatred of the Jewish people, its intolerance of any Muslim who does not share their theology or world view, confirms to the world what the Muslim Brotherhood really is - an extremist hate group."
Simon Weisenthal Center, 16 August 2013
Do you know where the Egyptian military gets most of the foreign aide from? NO, it is not America, it is from Saudi Arabia!
Why would Saudi Arabia back Egypt's military? Because they are THE stabilizing force in their country. If the Suez Canal is closed by the Muslim Brotherhood, Europe will fall into a depression.
Right now, if the canal is closed, tankers will take three or four times longer to go around Africa to deliver oil to Europe and it will then take three or four times longer for those same, now empty, tankers to return for more oil. There are not enough tankers on this Earth to make up that short fall.
Now the Saudis do have an oil pipeline to southern Lebanon (Mediterranean Sea) but it passes through Syria (Golan Heights controlled by Israel) and can be easily sabotaged.

Since the 1967 Six-Day War, the section of the pipeline which runs through the Golan Heights came under Israeli occupation, though the Israelis permitted the pipeline's operation to continue. After years of constant bickering between Saudi Arabia and Syria and Lebanon over transit fees, the emergence of oil supertankers, and pipeline breakdowns, the section of the line beyond Jordan ceased operation in 1976. The remainder of the line between Saudi Arabia and Jordan continued to transport modest amounts of petroleum until 1990 when the Saudis cut off the pipeline in response to Jordan's support of Iraq during the first Gulf War. Today, the entire line is unfit for oil transport
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tapline.png

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#168053 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, THEY lied. The image on the internet is NOT a copy of any document and has been proven to be a fraud!
Okay, show us a copy of another document that resembles the one Obama posted? There isn't any!
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
So first Jercque err Rouge claims that Hawaii won't confirm that it his Birth Certificate. Then he admits that they did and claims that they lied? Actually Rouge "lied" when he Tepeatedly claimed that Hawaii wouldn't confirm the document
So moron throwing around words you don't understand ... where's that "proof" that it is fraudulent?
Hint for illiterate Birfoon ... Repeating the same tired fable over and over and over is not "proof" of anything except how pathetic you are
Still can't show us a copy of any other document that resembles Obama's, can you?!? How sad!!!

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168054 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
iava org wrote:
<quoted text>
President Cheney, Vice President Rummy and the Dummy Bush will go down in all of American history as the worst administration ever.
--------
Report Spotlights Iraq Rebuilding Blunders
December 13, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/586joh
BAGHDAD — An unpublished 513-page federal history of the American-led reconstruction of Iraq depicts an effort crippled before the invasion by Pentagon planners who were hostile to the idea of rebuilding a foreign country, and then molded into a $100 billion failure by bureaucratic turf wars, spiraling violence and ignorance of the basic elements of Iraqi society and infrastructure.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/world/middl... text>
It is not the military's job to rebuild nations. Their job is the break the enemies will to continue to war against us. I was not in favor of rebuilding their country because they are Muslims and, unlike German and Japan, will NEVER REFORM their ways.
Please indicate, with proof, how and :

1. When Vietnam attacked the U.S.;
2. When Afghanistan attacked the U.S.(GWB forgot why he invaded, lack of attention span brought the U.S. to Iraq). Obama killed Bin Laden IN PAKISTAN, the U.S.'s staunch ally...;
3. When Iraq attacked the U.S.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#168055 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, THEY lied. The image on the internet is NOT a copy of any document and has been proven to be a fraud!
Okay, show us a copy of another document that resembles the one Obama posted? There isn't any!

Still can't show us a copy of any other document that resembles Obama's, can you?!? How sad!!!
That is your proof? Another repaste of the same fable? Sad doesn't begin to cover it .... ignorant is a start

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#168056 Aug 19, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
[Fox News Makes You Stupid wrote:
Top judge: US and UK acted as 'vigilantes' in Iraq invasion
Former senior law lord condemns 'serious violation of international law'
18 November 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/5mogau
One of Britain's most authoritative judicial figures last night delivered a blistering attack on the invasion of Iraq, describing it as a serious violation of international law, and accusing Britain and the US of acting like a "world vigilante".
Lord Bingham, in his first major speech since retiring as the senior law lord, rejected the then attorney general's defence of the 2003 invasion as fundamentally flawed
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/i ...
=========
Top Ten Myths about Iraq, 2008
by Juan Cole / December 26, 2008 / http://tinyurl.com/6sed4v
1. Iraqis are safer because of Bush's War. >>>>>
2. Large numbers of Iraqis in exile abroad have returned. >>>
3. Iraqis are materially better off because of Bush's war. >>>>
4. The Bush administration scored a major victory with its Status of Forces Agreement.>>>>> >>>>>
5. Minorities in Iraq are safer since Bush's invasion. >>>>>>> >>
6. The sole explanation for the fall in the monthly death rate for Iraqi civilians was the troop excalation or surge of 30,000 extra US troops in 2007. >>>>>>>
<quoted text>
Well, have you noticed that those articles were posted around the 2008 election? WHY??? Now, how has Iraq done since Obama pulled us out of there? And now Iraq wants our military intelligence to help them out!
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press Friday, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Poor birther. You wrote "Well, have you noticed that those articles were posted around the 2008 election? WHY??? Now, how has Iraq done since Obama pulled us out of there? And now Iraq wants our military intelligence to help them out!"

What a joke. If GEB had not invaded, no one would be talking pullout. If GWB had not invaded, Iraq would not be asking for military aid (drones). If GWB had not invaded, Al Qaeda WOULD NOT BE IN IRAQ. If GWB had not invaded, that country would still be a very useful and strategic buffer against Iran. If GWB had not invaded, those Iranians would NOT BE IN IRAQ today.

Do you finally get it, Rogue?

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