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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167871 Aug 17, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't believe what I am about to say here....
But I am going to have to defend Patton here.
Patton understood that the Russians were our only future competition. The move may have been morally outrageous...however, it made perfect military sense.
I don't like a lot of things about the guy, but if I needed a general for my tank division...
He would be my second choice behind Rommel.
I consider that extraordinary praise of his leadership and dumb luck.
In my humble opinion, Patton was superior to Rommel. Even though the latter was out-tanked in numbers, one of his Tigers was worth 3 Shermans any day. Shermans didn't have the armour nor the gun to compete with Rommel's tanks, not to mention their gas engines instead of diesel, making them burning coffins when hit. And yet, Patton beat him and later tore across Europe with the same outgunned and out-armoured tanks.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167872 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Love it, love it, love it. Just yesterday one of you Libtards posted a .... 2007 article about al-Qaeda not being a problem in Iraq and I countered it with a 2013 article which basically said that al-Qaeda was flourishing in Iraq starting when Obama pulled our people out of Iraq.
But the reason why Iraq and Obama could not strike a deal two years ago was because Obama did not want a deal, he just wanted us out before the 2012 election. And now they are begging for our help.
What's Obummer Boy to do? What should he do? Hummmmm, he will think about it for a few years and by then he will be out of office and he will blame it on ..... Bush!!!
Oh, my opinion, we should have pulled out of Iraq just as soon as Saddamn Hussein was killed. And we should have pulled out of Afghanistan just as soon as UBL was killed too.
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
His comments come 20 months after the U.S. military left Iraq because the two countries could not agree to keep some American troops there to bolster security.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Hey, hey, I repeat, there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq prior to the 2003 "Mission Accomplished" invasion. Neither were there any Iranians. Or WMDs. Plenty of those now. And more killing than murderer Saddam could ever dream of.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167873 Aug 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
Let no one criticize our Heroes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =oBMT3OMEPwkXX
I dare you to name me one "libtard" (Rogue,tm reg'd), or one sheeple (GB KFC tm reg') who ever criticized even ONE honest soldier (solier to include all services) who took part in ANY armed conflict. Name me one.

You're confused with the reason for being in any conflict. Nothing to do with the men and women serving.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#167874 Aug 17, 2013
Jacques,
Speaking of conflicts, the Muslim Brotherhood has given Islam another black eye.
Political Islam is a failure and the sooner President Obama says so forcefully and publicly, the better off the world will be.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#167875 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Could you kindly qualify "African Americans" for me? Do you include Caucasians who can trace their heritage in Egypt to more than 10,000 years ago? And what do you can a Caucasian fro Egypt who is an American citizen?
<quoted text>
I am race obsessed? I don't run around calling myself a Euro-American, do I?!? Did I refer to G.W. Bush as a Euro-American president, do I?!?
I'd be pretty amazed if anyone could trace their history to Egypt 10,000 years ago, as written history is only about 5,000 years old.

typical conservative, stupid.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#167876 Aug 17, 2013
loose cannon wrote:
Jacques,
Speaking of conflicts, the Muslim Brotherhood has given Islam another black eye.
Political Islam is a failure and the sooner President Obama says so forcefully and publicly, the better off the world will be.
no, religious extremism is a political disaster. Look at Tunisia (highest % of adults with a college education), Algeria, Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Muslim countries that are peaceful and tolerant.

BTW the source of the vast majority of unrest in the Middle East is from "our" ally Saudi Arabia and its sect of Sunni Islam Wahhabbism.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#167877 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Isn't it odd that on-line news from, the other wise LSM, cover issues that avoid on live TV. Why? Easy, most Libtards can't read.
Don't think so? Easy, just go to any ghetto and see. And 90+% of them are .... Liberals who are only capable of watching TV!
'Horrible': Christian churches across Egypt stormed, torched
By Sarah Sirgany and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN August 16, 2013
Kafr Hakim, Egypt (CNN)-- For 67 years, the Virgin Mary Church has been a peaceful refuge for Shenouda El Sayeh, much like the Giza province village of Kafr Hakim where it rests and where he has lived all those years.
But, as he swept its floors on Thursday, it was painfully obvious things had changed.
The night before, a mob -- chanting against Coptic Christians such as El Sayeh and calling for Egypt to become an "Islamic state" -- had torched and looted the Virgin Mary Church.
"I didn't expect this to happen," El Sayeh said.
He's not alone. Christians all around Egypt are cleaning up in the aftermath of a spate of attacks, which came on the country's deadliest day since the 2011 revolution that overthrew longtime President Hosni Mubarak.
Bishop Angaelos, the Cairo-born head of the Coptic Orthodox Church in the United Kingdom, said he was told by colleagues in Egypt that 52 churches were attacked in a 24-hour span that started Wednesday, as well as numerous Christians' homes and businesses.
Ishak Ibrahim, a researcher with the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, told CNN he had confirmed attacks on at least 30 churches so far, in addition to the targeting of church-related facilities, including schools and cultural centers.
Those churches reportedly set ablaze Wednesday included St. George Church in Sohag, a city south of Cairo on the Nile River.
sometimes the birth of Democracy isn't pretty. It usually involves a war. Hmmm, let me think I seem to recall an 8 year war for Democracy called THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

But what can I expect from someone who thinks wrtitten history goes back 10,000 years?

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#167878 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Love it, love it, love it. Just yesterday one of you Libtards posted a .... 2007 article about al-Qaeda not being a problem in Iraq and I countered it with a 2013 article which basically said that al-Qaeda was flourishing in Iraq starting when Obama pulled our people out of Iraq.
al Qaeda was flourishing in Iraq from about 2004 on. who do you think we were fighting? who do you think were the "insurgents" Sunni Muslims afraid of retribution from the Shia they oppressed for decades under Saddam.
NEWSFLASH for ya AL QAEDA IS A SUNNI MUSLIM ORGANIZATION.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
But the reason why Iraq and Obama could not strike a deal two years ago was because Obama did not want a deal, he just wanted us out before the 2012 election.
No, because the Iraqi wanted to be able to try American troops for crimes in Iraqi courts. Thet insisted it be part odf the status of forces Agreement.
Besides numbnuts, it was George W Bush who signed an agreement to pull out all combat troops by 2012, not President Obama
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And now they are begging for our help.
What's Obummer Boy to do? What should he do? Hummmmm, he will think about it for a few years and by then he will be out of office and he will blame it on ..... Bush!!!
exactkt where the blame belongs, Saddam kept Iraq peaceful and al Qaeda out.
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oh, my opinion, we should have pulled out of Iraq just as soon as Saddamn Hussein was killed.
if President Dumbya had enough intelligence to ask his father, we would have never gone in and taken Saddam out.
BIGGEST FOREIGN POLICY SCREW UP IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
And we should have pulled out of Afghanistan just as soon as UBL was killed too.
WOW, you're actually showing some signs on intelligence!
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
His comments come 20 months after the U.S. military left Iraq because the two countries could not agree to keep some American troops there to bolster security.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Something people with intelligence knew would happen if we took out Saddam. there is nothing we can do to stop it. we just need to stay out, it is out of our control
maybe you should change your name to Rogue Dunce and sit in the corner with a cone shaped hat

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167879 Aug 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
no, religious extremism is a political disaster. Look at Tunisia (highest % of adults with a college education), Algeria, Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Muslim countries that are peaceful and tolerant.
BTW the source of the vast majority of unrest in the Middle East is from "our" ally Saudi Arabia and its sect of Sunni Islam Wahhabbism.
Great post accompanied by great truths.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167880 Aug 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I dare you to name me one "libtard" (Rogue,tm reg'd), or one sheeple (GB KFC tm reg') who ever criticized even ONE honest soldier (solier to include all services) who took part in ANY armed conflict. Name me one.
You're confused with the reason for being in any conflict. Nothing to do with the men and women serving.
Leave it to the azz to take exception! psycho Why exactly are you here again, canadian? Seems as though you're the one confused, not me. PATH
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167881 Aug 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
al Qaeda was flourishing in Iraq from about 2004 on. who do you think we were fighting? who do you think were the "insurgents" Sunni Muslims afraid of retribution from the Shia they oppressed for decades under Saddam.
NEWSFLASH for ya AL QAEDA IS A SUNNI MUSLIM ORGANIZATION.
<quoted text>
No, because the Iraqi wanted to be able to try American troops for crimes in Iraqi courts. Thet insisted it be part odf the status of forces Agreement.
Besides numbnuts, it was George W Bush who signed an agreement to pull out all combat troops by 2012, not President Obama
<quoted text>
exactkt where the blame belongs, Saddam kept Iraq peaceful and al Qaeda out.
<quoted text>
if President Dumbya had enough intelligence to ask his father, we would have never gone in and taken Saddam out.
BIGGEST FOREIGN POLICY SCREW UP IN THE HISTORY OF THE USA
<quoted text>
WOW, you're actually showing some signs on intelligence!
<quoted text>
Something people with intelligence knew would happen if we took out Saddam. there is nothing we can do to stop it. we just need to stay out, it is out of our control
maybe you should change your name to Rogue Dunce and sit in the corner with a cone shaped hat
I disagree.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/al-qae...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167882 Aug 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
In my humble opinion, Patton was superior to Rommel. Even though the latter was out-tanked in numbers, one of his Tigers was worth 3 Shermans any day. Shermans didn't have the armour nor the gun to compete with Rommel's tanks, not to mention their gas engines instead of diesel, making them burning coffins when hit. And yet, Patton beat him and later tore across Europe with the same outgunned and out-armoured tanks.
Please replace "humble" with "azzhole", thanks!
Frito Bandito

Jacksonville, FL

#167883 Aug 17, 2013
Empathy for a homesick snowbird
I was in Scottsdale, AZ the other day. I saw a bumper sticker on a parked car that read:
"I miss Chicago."
So I broke the window, stole the radio, shot out two of the tires, added an Obama bumper sticker and left a note that read,
"Hope this helps.”

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#167884 Aug 17, 2013
Justice LRS wrote:
seriously dude you are going to use an interview with one of the men (Tony Blair or Bush's lapdog) responsible for the invasion and toppling Saddam in a magazine from owned by the man (Bill Kristol) who started PNAC, which advocated toppling of Saddam as evidence that Al Qaeda was in Iraq under Saddam's rule???

that's too too rich

Listen, I have some land for sale in southern Louisiana
Frito Bandito

Jacksonville, FL

#167885 Aug 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
no, religious extremism is a political disaster. Look at Tunisia (highest % of adults with a college education), Algeria, Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Muslim countries that are peaceful and tolerant.
BTW the source of the vast majority of unrest in the Middle East is from "our" ally Saudi Arabia and its sect of Sunni Islam Wahhabbism.
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post accompanied by great truths.
I do not disagree. But Obama is backing the Sunnis in Syria many of which are aligned with al-Qaeda!!!!
Sufism is the Muslim equivalent of Buddhist and Hindus. And Ahmadiyya is also peaceful. But between them they are a small minority.
The Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and al-Qaeda are all related to Sunnis.
Frito Bandito

Jacksonville, FL

#167886 Aug 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
In my humble opinion, Patton was superior to Rommel. Even though the latter was out-tanked in numbers, one of his Tigers was worth 3 Shermans any day. Shermans didn't have the armour nor the gun to compete with Rommel's tanks, not to mention their gas engines instead of diesel, making them burning coffins when hit. And yet, Patton beat him and later tore across Europe with the same outgunned and out-armoured tanks.
The M-4 Shermans were also a foot taller than the Panzer Mark IVs as the Shermans were using a radial aircraft engine which necessitated the turret basket be raised so the drive shaft could pass underneath it.
This was in part do to FDR keeping his head in the sand as war ragged in Europe. It did not matter if it was tanks, planes, ships, etc., we started WWII ill prepared.
Just look at the hyper-aircraft engine project. We continued to work on a 1,2000 pound/1,200 ci/1,200 hp engine while the British V-1650 Merlin went from 1,200 hp to 1,350 to 1,600 to 1,800 to 2,000 hp in just three years.
The only plane to fly with the hyper-engines was the McDonnell XP-67 Moonbat which did not fly until early 1944 and was obsolete by then. The P-38 Lightning was five years ahead of the Moonbat and out preformed it.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167887 Aug 17, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
seriously dude you are going to use an interview with one of the men (Tony Blair or Bush's lapdog) responsible for the invasion and toppling Saddam in a magazine from owned by the man (Bill Kristol) who started PNAC, which advocated toppling of Saddam as evidence that Al Qaeda was in Iraq under Saddam's rule???
that's too too rich
Listen, I have some land for sale in southern Louisiana
Yes, seriously. Does that land come with mineral rights?
Frito Bandito

Jacksonville, FL

#167888 Aug 17, 2013
Kelly Johnson was way ahead of his time even when he designed the P-38 Lightning. But his biggest goof in the P-38 was Mach-tuck which he did not anticipate and killed many pilots.
What helped make the P-38 go fast limited it from going much faster as the plane entered trans-sonic the plane would pitch DOWN and exceed the structural limits and break-up at high speed. It is hard to "bail-out" at over 500 mph.
The P-38 used a narrow-cord/thick none symmetrical wing which caused the top of the wing to go trans-sonic before the bottom of the wing which caused the nose to tuck at high speed. The P-51 had a symmetrical wing so both the top and bottom of the wing went trans-sonic at the same time and the P-47 had a wide chord which which reduced the critical angel and gave it the highest dive speed before going trans-sonic.
Frito Bandito

Jacksonville, FL

#167889 Aug 17, 2013
When Kelly Johnson had finally figured out why his P-38s where falling apart in flight, he developed a high-speed air-brake. This took a while as the pilots died and could not tell him what had happened.
The first kits where sent to Europe on a C-54 cargo plane which was shot down by two British fighter pilots who though the C-54 was a Focke-Wulf Condor!?!
C-54
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Douglas_C-5...
Focke-Wulf Fw 200 C Condor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchi...
iava org

West Sayville, NY

#167890 Aug 17, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
no, religious extremism is a political disaster. Look at Tunisia (highest % of adults with a college education), Algeria, Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Muslim countries that are peaceful and tolerant.
BTW the source of the vast majority of unrest in the Middle East is from "our" ally Saudi Arabia and its sect of Sunni Islam Wahhabbism.
<quoted text>
I do not disagree. But Obama is backing the Sunnis in Syria many of which are aligned with al-Qaeda!!!!
Sufism is the Muslim equivalent of Buddhist and Hindus. And Ahmadiyya is also peaceful. But between them they are a small minority.
The Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and al-Qaeda are all related to Sunnis.
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