BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#167849 Aug 16, 2013
wojar wrote:
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The belief that a Hawaiian-born President has a forged birth certificate even though it contains all the facts certified by the State of Hawaii (and in the face of other conclusive evidence) is the epitome of reductio ad absurdam standing on its head: the premises must be correct in order to preserve the cherished absurdity.
Don't forget not to remove your tinfoil hat!
A forged document can only contain phony facts, WoTARD!A forged document is an illegal document, no matter what it reports as phony facts.
If the facts were true, there would be no need for a forgery.
If the facts were true, one could get a certified copy of the document that would withstand scrutiny.
That Obama has not done!

Let's have a dialogue based on facts about the subject of this thread.
I have two questions.

Tell us, how can you prove a Hawaiian birth with a fraudulent birth certificate?
You can't!
What is the only thing that a fraudulent document proves?
It proves that fraud has been committed!
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#167850 Aug 16, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Than that document issued to Tacky when he was released from the looney bin saying he was cured is fraudulent.
I hate to disappoint you, but I've never been to the loony bin, not even for a visit!
But you continue to evade.

A forged document can only contain phony facts, WoTARD!
A forged document is an illegal document, no matter what it reports as phony facts.
If the facts were true, there would be no need for a forgery.
If the facts were true, one could get a certified copy of the document that would withstand scrutiny.
That Obama has not done!

Let's have a dialogue based on facts about the subject of this thread.
I have two questions.

Tell us, how can you prove a Hawaiian birth with a fraudulent birth certificate?
You can't!
What is the only thing that a fraudulent document proves?
It proves that fraud has been committed!

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#167851 Aug 17, 2013
yeah yeah...fraud, fraudulent, forgery, phony, sheeple....

As the storm raged, captain realized his ship was sinking... and fast!

As a feeling of impending doom took over the crew... he called out, "For God's sake! Does anyone here know how to pray?"

One sailor swallowed his fear and stepped forward "Aye, captain! I know how to pray."

"Outstanding," said the captain, "You pray while the rest of us put on our life jackets, we were one short."

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#167852 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Ray Stevens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Qtf7UbzCPz8XX
Ray Stevens - Osama (Yo' Mama)
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#167853 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Could you kindly qualify "African Americans" for me? Do you include Caucasians who can trace their heritage in Egypt to more than 10,000 years ago? And what do you can a Caucasian fro Egypt who is an American citizen?
wojar wrote:
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Why should Poppo explain a matter of common sense to a race-obsessed birfoon?
It's like my chemistry class for non-science majors. When significant figures are discussed, some understand the concept instantaneously. The rest will never comprehend and would be better off moving on to other topics rather than wasting their efforts.
I am race obsessed? I don't run around calling myself a Euro-American, do I?!? Did I refer to G.W. Bush as a Euro-American president, do I?!?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#167854 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Could you kindly qualify "African Americans" for me? Do you include Caucasians who can trace their heritage in Egypt to more than 10,000 years ago? And what do you can a Caucasian fro Egypt who is an American citizen?
wojar wrote:
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Why should Poppo explain a matter of common sense to a race-obsessed birfoon?
It's like my chemistry class for non-science majors. When significant figures are discussed, some understand the concept instantaneously. The rest will never comprehend and would be better off moving on to other topics rather than wasting their efforts.
Hummm, I guess you too are unable to answer that question. Me race obsessed? Just ask Justice Clarence Thomas whether he is a African-anything and catch his response.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#167855 Aug 17, 2013
Isn't it odd that on-line news from, the other wise LSM, cover issues that avoid on live TV. Why? Easy, most Libtards can't read.
Don't think so? Easy, just go to any ghetto and see. And 90+% of them are .... Liberals who are only capable of watching TV!

'Horrible': Christian churches across Egypt stormed, torched
By Sarah Sirgany and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN August 16, 2013

Kafr Hakim, Egypt (CNN)-- For 67 years, the Virgin Mary Church has been a peaceful refuge for Shenouda El Sayeh, much like the Giza province village of Kafr Hakim where it rests and where he has lived all those years.
But, as he swept its floors on Thursday, it was painfully obvious things had changed.
The night before, a mob -- chanting against Coptic Christians such as El Sayeh and calling for Egypt to become an "Islamic state" -- had torched and looted the Virgin Mary Church.
"I didn't expect this to happen," El Sayeh said.

He's not alone. Christians all around Egypt are cleaning up in the aftermath of a spate of attacks, which came on the country's deadliest day since the 2011 revolution that overthrew longtime President Hosni Mubarak.
Bishop Angaelos, the Cairo-born head of the Coptic Orthodox Church in the United Kingdom, said he was told by colleagues in Egypt that 52 churches were attacked in a 24-hour span that started Wednesday, as well as numerous Christians' homes and businesses.
Ishak Ibrahim, a researcher with the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, told CNN he had confirmed attacks on at least 30 churches so far, in addition to the targeting of church-related facilities, including schools and cultural centers.
Those churches reportedly set ablaze Wednesday included St. George Church in Sohag, a city south of Cairo on the Nile River.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#167856 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Could you kindly qualify "African Americans" for me? Do you include Caucasians who can trace their heritage in Egypt to more than 10,000 years ago? And what do you can a Caucasian fro Egypt who is an American citizen?
Grand Birther wrote:
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Wow. Just when you think Rogue Moron can't get any dumber he goes and out does himself.
Rogue Moron, you know exactly what African Ametican refers to in 2013 in the United Stayes of America. Further, what in the bloody fkuc is your point? This is perhaps the dumbest thing on the Internet. Ever.
Well educate me then. I don't know what an African-America is or is not?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

San Juan, Philippines

#167857 Aug 17, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
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If the facts were true, there would be no need for a forgery.
That's the entire point. There was no need for a forgery.

iava org

West Sayville, NY

#167858 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Hummmm, you do know that CATO posted that in .... 2007. How do you think they feel NOW?
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Yep, just as soon as Obama pulled our troops out of Iraq, al-Qaeda started to gain strength.
As for me, it does not bother me. We should have pulled out of Iraq just as soon as Saddamn Hussein was executed!
At Saddam's Hanging whose name did the crowd chant?
iava org

West Sayville, NY

#167859 Aug 17, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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Seems all wars we fight are mistakes.
Leads me to the conclusion that we KNOW they are mistakes before we start them.
Fun Fact.
The U.S. has been in a state of WAR since Dec. 7th 1941.
We have yet to take a day off.
Keep that in mind when azzholes are on T.V. saying that free speech should be suspended during times of war.
Truman started the perpetual wars for perpetual peace.

But since the Devil is the prince of this world it goes back from time immemorial.
iava org

West Sayville, NY

#167860 Aug 17, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Don't forget, and as good as U.S. troops were in Europe AND the Pacific in WWII, they could not have done it, at least not as quickly without their allies. The Commonwealth weighed in heavily, as did liberated Poles, Czechs, etc and the Russians. As much as we may not like them, the Russians did as much as all the Allies did. Otherwise, who would have dealt with Germans' eastern and morthern front?
As to your extremely oh so correct comment, namely "It boggles the mind how the USA beat the NAZIS and JAPS in less than 4 years and we are still fighting in the Middle East with people that have ZERO Airplanes, ZERO Tanks, ZERO Ships, Et Cetera" , please inform Rogue that missiles, H-bombs, B52s, B2s, F35s, laser-guided rifles, submarines, carriers, frigates, super duper communications satellite systems etc are no match for these guys who have none of that. Vietnam tactics changed how war is waged. Rogue just won't listen. No group, no nation, will be vanquished. They will lose the classic battle, but will win every war, Iraq being the prime example.
I agree.

The Russians were the greatest help in WWII and yet General Patton wanted to use the captured NAZIS to fight against our greatest help.

In 2003 Bush freed the Shiites in Iraq who now control the whole country and are loyal to Iran.

That speaks volumes too me.
iava org

West Sayville, NY

#167861 Aug 17, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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The lifespan of Mark is completely irrelevant.
The book of Mark's author is unknown.
Didn't you say Mark was written 30 years after his death?

How do you know Mark did not live 30 years more?
iava org

West Sayville, NY

#167862 Aug 17, 2013
Scrutiny wrote:
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We haven't "won" a war since WWII, and anyone who really studies it will tell you the Russians should get most of the credit.
Now, you say that history is uncertain. That the dates kept by the Romans could have been flawed... and I agree.
What would happen if you picked up a history book and upon examination it documented real witches, zombies, constant suspension of the laws of physics, magic, demons, ghosts and so forth?(and that is just scraping the edge of the supernatural iceberg)
I think I would take Rome's ability to keep track of it's money a bit more seriously.
How about you?
Have you ever read a newspaper in your life?

Have you ever watched any news on TV in your life?

OF COURSE THERE IS A DEVIL.

lol

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#167863 Aug 17, 2013
iava org wrote:
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I agree.
The Russians were the greatest help in WWII and yet General Patton wanted to use the captured NAZIS to fight against our greatest help.
In 2003 Bush freed the Shiites in Iraq who now control the whole country and are loyal to Iran.
That speaks volumes too me.
Can't believe what I am about to say here....

But I am going to have to defend Patton here.

Patton understood that the Russians were our only future competition. The move may have been morally outrageous...however, it made perfect military sense.

I don't like a lot of things about the guy, but if I needed a general for my tank division...

He would be my second choice behind Rommel.

I consider that extraordinary praise of his leadership and dumb luck.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167864 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Could you kindly qualify "African Americans" for me? Do you include Caucasians who can trace their heritage in Egypt to more than 10,000 years ago? And what do you can a Caucasian fro Egypt who is an American citizen?
<quoted text>
Hummm, I guess you too are unable to answer that question. Me race obsessed? Just ask Justice Clarence Thomas whether he is a African-anything and catch his response.
There is no response from Thomas. It's well known the man has not spoken since he was appointed to the court.

“Arm the homeless!”

Since: Jul 12

The internet

#167865 Aug 17, 2013
iava org wrote:
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Have you ever read a newspaper in your life?
Have you ever watched any news on TV in your life?
OF COURSE THERE IS A DEVIL.
lol
I only get that feeling watching fox.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#167867 Aug 17, 2013
Love it, love it, love it. Just yesterday one of you Libtards posted a .... 2007 article about al-Qaeda not being a problem in Iraq and I countered it with a 2013 article which basically said that al-Qaeda was flourishing in Iraq starting when Obama pulled our people out of Iraq.
But the reason why Iraq and Obama could not strike a deal two years ago was because Obama did not want a deal, he just wanted us out before the 2012 election. And now they are begging for our help.
What's Obummer Boy to do? What should he do? Hummmmm, he will think about it for a few years and by then he will be out of office and he will blame it on ..... Bush!!!
Oh, my opinion, we should have pulled out of Iraq just as soon as Saddamn Hussein was killed. And we should have pulled out of Afghanistan just as soon as UBL was killed too.

Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press, August 16, 2013

WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
His comments come 20 months after the U.S. military left Iraq because the two countries could not agree to keep some American troops there to bolster security.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter
Grand Birther

United States

#167868 Aug 17, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Love it, love it, love it. Just yesterday one of you Libtards posted a .... 2007 article about al-Qaeda not being a problem in Iraq and I countered it with a 2013 article which basically said that al-Qaeda was flourishing in Iraq starting when Obama pulled our people out of Iraq.
But the reason why Iraq and Obama could not strike a deal two years ago was because Obama did not want a deal, he just wanted us out before the 2012 election. And now they are begging for our help.
What's Obummer Boy to do? What should he do? Hummmmm, he will think about it for a few years and by then he will be out of office and he will blame it on ..... Bush!!!
Oh, my opinion, we should have pulled out of Iraq just as soon as Saddamn Hussein was killed. And we should have pulled out of Afghanistan just as soon as UBL was killed too.
Iraq to U.S.: Can you send us some drones to deal with al Qaeda?
By Lara Jakes-Associated Press, August 16, 2013
WASHINGTON — Iraq’s top diplomat says lethal U.S. drones could be based in Iraq to help fight a growing threat by al Qaeda.
The Iraqi foreign minister is Hoshyar Zebari.
SEE ALSO: Al Qaeda drives Iraq toward chaos; U.S. withdrawal left door open to sectarian battle for power
Zebari said Friday that Iraqi forces need U.S. help with surveillance and analyzing intelligence. He suggests that an unspecified but limited number of American counterterror advisers could be stationed in Iraq to help its military deter a recent spike in deadly attacks.
His comments come 20 months after the U.S. military left Iraq because the two countries could not agree to keep some American troops there to bolster security.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/...
Follow us:@washtimes on Twitter


Rogue Moron is very, very happy that a country invaded on dubious grounds by his moron heros is left smoldering only a few short years later. That is why Rogue Moron is a giant piece of human waste.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167869 Aug 17, 2013
Let no one criticize our Heroes!

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