BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#167699 Aug 15, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
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Typical Libtardian Logic. North Korea invades South Korea and that is not a war? North Vietnam invades South Vietnam and that is not a war? Iraq invades Kuwiat and that is not a war? Now, bin Laden wages war on the U.S. and you think we should not pursue him?
I agree, just as soon as we killed Saddamn Hussein we should have pulled out of Iraq and the same goes for Afghanistan after we killed bin Laden. But to not punish your enemies only makes things worse.
During WWII, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, what should we have done?
Did I ever say anything about WWII?

NO.

Hanging Saddam and killing UBL is only symbolic and does not mean much.

In 1979-1987 the Red Army took over Afghanistan in six days and spent the next 10 years fighting a internecine guerilla war and lost with the second best military on earth.

It eventually bankrupted the USSR and UBL had used the same template to bankrupt the USA.

The only way to win against terrorism is by fighting in the shadows with good police work just like we do with La Cosa Nostra.

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General Norman Schwartzkopf : Iraq Quagmire For USA
Iraq Quagmire: That, George Bush, knew!
http://tinyurl.com/2q9ex6 / PBS Television 1997:


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U.S. forces turning to ‘indirect’ war tactics
Support grows for uprooting terror havens rather than relying on firefights
http://tinyurl.com/2f69ll June. 27, 2007
So long, Rambo.
Almost six years after the worst attack ever on U.S. soil, special operations commanders believe that simply killing terrorists will not win a war against an ideologically motivated enemy.
That view is reflected in a series of transitions in special operations leadership posts. New senior officers are expected to give greater weight to an indirect approach to warfare, a slow and disciplined process that calls for supporting groups or nations willing to back U.S. interests.

Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld turned special operations forces into a "giant killing machine," said Douglas Macgregor, a former Army colonel and frequent critic of the Defense Department.

Now, with Rumsfeld gone and Navy Vice Adm. Eric Olson about to take control of U.S. Special Operations Command, Macgregor anticipates a return to the fundamentals drilled into Army Green Berets, Navy SEALs and other specially trained troops.

"The emphasis will be on,'If you have to kill someone, then for God's sakes, kill the right people,'" Macgregor said. "In most cases, you're not going to have to kill people and that's the great virtue of special operations. That's been lost over the last several years."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19468531/
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#167700 Aug 15, 2013
omit 1987 and replace w/ 1989
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#167701 Aug 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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You :
Korea was a mistake.
Vietnam was a mistake.
Iraq was a mistake.
Afghanistan was a mistake
Absolutely right.
Even Korea, if anyone wants to just dig a little bit for the reasons. The whole powder keg was there, waiting that spark to blow up the whole peninsula. We just didn't see it coming. Or didn't we?
Agree, and another phony baloney war with Colonel Oillie North saying we have to fight them in the South American region because the communist will invade Texas.

ROTFL

LOL

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Treason -- Often An Essential Business Practice / http://tinyurl.com/krtear
(Swans - July 30, 2007) Each month I screen a film on some recent news event, situation, story or subject that was ignored, suppressed, or distorted by the major media. In June I delved back into history to the 1930s for a documentary, The Plot to Overthrow FDR, that told an earthshaking story that was covered up soon after it was exposed and has been ignored ever since. Because of its profound implications I felt it was a story that should be reviewed.
In 1934 a very popular retired general of the marines, Smedley Butler, told a congressional committee that a well-funded group had approached him to lead veterans in a coup d'état of Franklin Roosevelt's administration! The plans were based on the successful takeovers of the Italian government by Mussolini and his Fascists, the German government by Hitler and the Nazis, and by pending actions of French fascists, the Croix de Feu. Why? The wealthy elite of the country were furious that the FDR-led government enacted legislation they deemed inimical to their interests.
The agitation, disorder, and fear that accompanied the depression caused Roosevelt to employ unusual, unprecedented and even contradictory measures to preserve the existing system from overthrow. If anything it gave the overwhelming majority of the people confidence that their government was on their side and was going to help them. The elite, however, did not see it the same way. Any benefits to the others would obviously affect them negatively. They considered Roosevelt, a blue-blood like themselves, a traitor to their class./ http://www.swans.com/library/art13/pgreen117....
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#167702 Aug 15, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
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Sooo, when is the last resort? In you Libtardian Logic, NEVER! Saddamn Hussein violated 27 United Nations mandates. Should we have given him a 28th? 29th? 129th? When is enough, enough?
General Zinni testified in Congress that Iraq was no threat to its neighbors and certainly no threat to the USA and the West.

Iraq was contained in a box with the No Fly Zones and Sanctions which worked for 12 years.

Limbaugh and Fox News keeps lying and you still believe.

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"Gen. Zinni Says War With Iraq Is Unwise,"
24 August 2002 / http://tinyurl.com/244lxrd
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/bush/zin...
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#167703 Aug 15, 2013
General Anthony Zinni, USMC,(Ret.) Remarks at CDI Board of Directors Dinner, May 12, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/8ldmo

I think the first mistake that was made was misjudging the success of containment. I heard the president say, not too long ago, I believe it was with the interview with Tim Russert that ... I'm not sure ... but at some point I heard him say that "containment did not work." That's not true.

So to say containment didn't work, I think is not only wrong from the experiences we had then, but the proof is in the pudding, in what kind of military our troops faced when we went in there.

The third mistake, I think was one we repeated from Vietnam, we had to create a false rationale for going in to get public support. The books were cooked, in my mind. The intelligence was not there. I testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee one month before the war, and Senator Lugar asked me: "General Zinni, do you feel the threat from Saddam Hussein is imminent?" I said: "No, not at all. It was not an imminent threat. Not even close. Not grave, gathering, imminent, serious, severe, mildly upsetting, none of those."

The sixth mistake, and maybe the biggest one, was propping up and trusting the exiles, the infamous "Gucci Guerillas" from London. We bought into their intelligence reports. To the credit of the CIA, they didn't buy into it, so I guess the Defense Department created its own boutique intelligence agency to vet them. And we ended up with a group that fed us bad information. That led us to believe that we would be welcomed with flowers in the streets; that led us to believe that this would be a cakewalk.

When I testified before Congress in 1998, after a grilling from Senator McCain and all those wonderful senators supported the Iraqi Liberation Act, and I told them that these guys are not credible and they are going to lead us into something they we will regret. At that time, they were pushing a plan that Central Command would supply air support and special forces, and we would put it into Iraq, and they would pied piper their way up to Baghdad and the whole place would fall apart. This plan was created by two senate staffers and a retired General. I happened to be the commander of central command, nobody bothered to ask me about how my troops would be used. And they were a little bit upset about me being upset about this.

These exiles did not have credibility inside the country or in the region. Not only did they not have credibility, it was clear that the information they were providing us many times was not correct and accurate. We believed in them. We also brought them in with us and deemed them into the governing council and the reception by Iraqis has been, to say the least, has not been great.

http://www.cdi.org/program/document.cfm...

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167704 Aug 15, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
In the late 1970s Jimmy "The Peanut Man" Cater printer $500 Billion and the end result was a peak inflation rate of 14% and a recession in 1980 which contributed to his defeat in the election later that year.
So far Obama has printed $2.7 TRILLION and at this rate will have printed $3.0 TRILLION by the end of this tear. It will result in double digit inflation, a double digit drop in the stock market and another recession!!!
Obama thinks he can do the same thing The Peanut Man did without all the bad news but I guess he can blame it all on ..... Bush again!!!
Hey, hey, every prediction you've made so far has been wrong, notably November 6, 2013, 209 Obama BC court challenges, Obamacare Supreme court decision (even though you had the inside dope, remember?), 7 republican presidential candidates who were all THE future president and last fall, the total collapse of Apple and subsequently the stock market. Well, Rouge, Apple's on a comeback and the stock market, except for this week, is surging a full 10 months after they should've tanked.

If it's okay, we will take your predictions with a grain of salt. Oh sure, market's bound to stumble , it always does, as what goes up must come down. Then you'll shout "I told you so". Surer, years later.
Therealnews com

West Sayville, NY

#167705 Aug 15, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
Since Obama entered the White House, EIGHT Million more Americans have become unemployed and another three million have become part time employed and you think Obana is doing a good job?
If Obama was smarted than G.W. he should have had a fully recovered economy within six months.
Palin Supporters' Strange World
http://tinyurl.com/53h7ot
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

Mom, Why Do You Want Me to Go to Iraq?
http://tinyurl.com/437pnn
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

The Sidewalk to Nowhere, McCain Supporters in Bethlehem, PA
http://tinyurl.com/4dexd9
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

Tell McCain to End the Politics of Hate
http://tinyurl.com/3g7zmj

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167706 Aug 15, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
<quoted text>
Typical Libtardian Logic. North Korea invades South Korea and that is not a war? North Vietnam invades South Vietnam and that is not a war? Iraq invades Kuwiat and that is not a war? Now, bin Laden wages war on the U.S. and you think we should not pursue him?
I agree, just as soon as we killed Saddamn Hussein we should have pulled out of Iraq and the same goes for Afghanistan after we killed bin Laden. But to not punish your enemies only makes things worse.
During WWII, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, what should we have done?
Again, wrong , wrong and wrong, Rogue. My gosh, did you go to the Popcorn academy school of politics?

1.If you care to read about the Koreas, you'll find that there was plenty warning of the invasion of South Korea. It perhaps could have been avoided. Maybe we wanted it;

2. North Vietnam had been at war with the French and their Southern Allies since 1945, with animosity at full blast between the two for so long. The French warned the Americans not to get mired down. Didn't listen. That was a Vietnam war. You had no business there and the domino crutch theory turned out to be something you fancy : a red herring;

3. You talk about the Iraq invasion of Kuwait, which happened mostly because the US ambassador misspoke. I suppose the intervention was okay, but how strange, not a word from you on the 2003 invasion of Iraq;

4. You talk about going after Bin Laden. Failure, as GWB gave up the chase in Afghanistan to go after Saddam Hussein to childishly an in a very ,oh yes, very costly manner, cost lives and huge huge amounts of money. Obama took up the chase and finished GWB's jobl

5. Your scenario of invading Iraq (why? Had Iraq threatened the U.S. in any way?), killing Saddam and pulling out is so stupid, well, can't find the proper word to describe it. I'm so happy you have never had a position of even the lowest authority. We might all be dead today;

6. Pearl Harbor? Did The RealNews have WWII in his list? I don't think so. You have this special way of being irrelevant...
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167707 Aug 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
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Again, wrong , wrong and wrong, Rogue. My gosh, did you go to the Popcorn academy school of politics?
1.If you care to read about the Koreas, you'll find that there was plenty warning of the invasion of South Korea. It perhaps could have been avoided. Maybe we wanted it;
2. North Vietnam had been at war with the French and their Southern Allies since 1945, with animosity at full blast between the two for so long. The French warned the Americans not to get mired down. Didn't listen. That was a Vietnam war. You had no business there and the domino crutch theory turned out to be something you fancy : a red herring;
3. You talk about the Iraq invasion of Kuwait, which happened mostly because the US ambassador misspoke. I suppose the intervention was okay, but how strange, not a word from you on the 2003 invasion of Iraq;
4. You talk about going after Bin Laden. Failure, as GWB gave up the chase in Afghanistan to go after Saddam Hussein to childishly an in a very ,oh yes, very costly manner, cost lives and huge huge amounts of money. Obama took up the chase and finished GWB's jobl
5. Your scenario of invading Iraq (why? Had Iraq threatened the U.S. in any way?), killing Saddam and pulling out is so stupid, well, can't find the proper word to describe it. I'm so happy you have never had a position of even the lowest authority. We might all be dead today;
6. Pearl Harbor? Did The RealNews have WWII in his list? I don't think so. You have this special way of being irrelevant...
Playing Monday morning QB isn't impressive at all. You enjoy criticizing but DO you plan to change anything? Can you change anything?

Since: May 10

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#167708 Aug 15, 2013

In the immortal words of J Edgar Hoover “Coincidence Stinks”
Obama just happened to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing—which eventually just happened to require demolition.

Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughanRobinson (later Mrs.Obama), who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.

Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, whojust happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which just happened to have been supported byElizabeth Mooney Kirk, who just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X, who just happenedto have been associated with the Nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, whojust happens to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents just happened to have no concern exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.

After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama’s $25,000 salary atIAF just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.

Since: May 10

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#167709 Aug 15, 2013
Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama’s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.

Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator whojust happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic,” and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.

Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father, which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.

Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned TonyRezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.
In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks(Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to spread nationwide, and which just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble, which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.

Since: May 10

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#167710 Aug 15, 2013
In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama’s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, just happened to be murdered, and both murders just happened to have never been solved. In 2008 Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.

In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel “will never see a day of peace,” and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children’s dance whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,” and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.

In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull’s sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.
“Tolerance is the last virtue of a dying society.”–Aristotle

Since: May 10

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#167711 Aug 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, wrong , wrong and wrong, Rogue. My gosh, did you go to the Popcorn academy school of politics?
1.If you care to read about the Koreas, you'll find that there was plenty warning of the invasion of South Korea. It perhaps could have been avoided. Maybe we wanted it;
2. North Vietnam had been at war with the French and their Southern Allies since 1945, with animosity at full blast between the two for so long. The French warned the Americans not to get mired down. Didn't listen. That was a Vietnam war. You had no business there and the domino crutch theory turned out to be something you fancy : a red herring;
3. You talk about the Iraq invasion of Kuwait, which happened mostly because the US ambassador misspoke. I suppose the intervention was okay, but how strange, not a word from you on the 2003 invasion of Iraq;
4. You talk about going after Bin Laden. Failure, as GWB gave up the chase in Afghanistan to go after Saddam Hussein to childishly an in a very ,oh yes, very costly manner, cost lives and huge huge amounts of money. Obama took up the chase and finished GWB's jobl
5. Your scenario of invading Iraq (why? Had Iraq threatened the U.S. in any way?), killing Saddam and pulling out is so stupid, well, can't find the proper word to describe it. I'm so happy you have never had a position of even the lowest authority. We might all be dead today;
6. Pearl Harbor? Did The RealNews have WWII in his list? I don't think so. You have this special way of being irrelevant...
It did not matter whether or not he had Pearl Harbor on his list. A war is a war even if you chose to surrender the territory to the bad guys which is call appeasement and never works. Did it work with Hitler? Just ask Nevel Chamberlan.

Since: May 10

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#167712 Aug 15, 2013
If Obama had a son.
http://www.google.com/imgres...

Since: May 10

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#167713 Aug 15, 2013
Frito Bandito wrote:
Since Obama entered the White House, EIGHT Million more Americans have become unemployed and another three million have become part time employed and you think Obana is doing a good job?
If Obama was smarted than G.W. he should have had a fully recovered economy within six months.
Therealnews com wrote:
<quoted text>
Palin Supporters' Strange World
http://tinyurl.com/53h7ot
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...
Mom, Why Do You Want Me to Go to Iraq?
http://tinyurl.com/437pnn
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...
The Sidewalk to Nowhere, McCain Supporters in Bethlehem, PA
http://tinyurl.com/4dexd9
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...
Tell McCain to End the Politics of Hate
http://tinyurl.com/3g7zmj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =U5mdIPNB8t8XX
Typical Libtardian response. Can't make in intellectually honest reply, send out the spam!
Again, I win!

Since: May 10

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#167714 Aug 15, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, hey, every prediction you've made so far has been wrong, notably November 6, 2013, 209 Obama BC court challenges, Obamacare Supreme court decision (even though you had the inside dope, remember?), 7 republican presidential candidates who were all THE future president and last fall, the total collapse of Apple and subsequently the stock market. Well, Rouge, Apple's on a comeback and the stock market, except for this week, is surging a full 10 months after they should've tanked.
If it's okay, we will take your predictions with a grain of salt. Oh sure, market's bound to stumble , it always does, as what goes up must come down. Then you'll shout "I told you so". Surer, years later.
Hmmmm, you are sure about everything you said I said, are you? Why you do not know what the definition of "is" is?
Oh, I bought into APPL at about $425 and sold seven months later at $640 which is over 50%. But the person who bought it, if he still had it today, would have lost about 25% of his value.
Oh, when ever Bernanke stops printing Obama money, what what happens to the WHOLE stock market. The DOW will drop at least 10% and the annual inflation rate will hit at least 10% and we will be back in a recession. As if we ever got out of the recession in the first place!
You see, the inflation in the past four and a half years has been above the GDP growth rate which means we have had a net loss in growth which means .... we are still in a recession.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#167715 Aug 15, 2013
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Oprah throws the race card and then tries to get it back. Hey black people, have you ever heard of the 'Little Boy Who Cried Wolf'? If you are always crying wolf, will people believe you when there is a wolf?
Oprah Winfrey "sorry" for Switzerland flap
Oprah Winfrey says she's "sorry" that a media frenzy emerged after saying she experienced racism during a trip to Switzerland.
Speaking Monday night at the Los Angeles premiere of "Lee Daniels' The Butler," Winfrey said: "I think that incident in Switzerland was just an incident in Switzerland. I'm really sorry that it got blown up. I purposefully did not mention the name of the store. I'm sorry that I said it was Switzerland."
"I was just referencing it as an example of being in a place where people don't expect that you would be able to be there," she continued.
In a recent interview with "Entertainment Tonight," Winfrey recalled a clerk at an upscale Zurich boutique refusing to show her a handbag. Winfrey said she was told she could not afford the $38,000 purse.
"I'm in a store and the person doesn't obviously know that I carry the black card and so they make an assessment based upon the way I look and who I am," said Winfrey, who earned $77 million in the year ending in June, according to Forbes magazine.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57598264/...
She claimed the sales clerk was racist because she didn't recognize her as a multi-billionaire elitist. Wouldn't she be happier if people treated her as a human,after all all people are to be treated equal, unless you happen to be one of the people that believes they should be treated different. That is why I would never want to meet Obama,because he is an arrogant egotist who can't act like a real human.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Quezon City, Philippines

#167717 Aug 15, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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You cannot say that with any certainty because timelines are all speculative and estimations.
Millions of years? Billions of years? Trillions of years?
I can say with absolute certainty that circular reasoning employs logical fallacy.

The claim that the gospels are the proven "word of God" because scripture says so is as circular as it gets.

Also the notion that conclusions based on clear and convincing evidence are "mere speculation" because they lack absolute proof is spurious. If absolute certainty is the benchmark to understand the world around us then nothing is certain and all conclusions are invalid --(save for circular bible-based assertions?). Absurd.
wojar wrote:
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Circular reasoning is simply fallacious. You are at war with windmills.
Sorry.
If Jesus was real that doesn't change the fact that the gospels were written decades after his death by people who were not eyewitnesses to his ministry.
Anyone who thinks Jesus would have a problem with rational people reaching rational conclusions believes in a very weird deity.
Mr. Real News has a problem with evidence that does not support his beliefs.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#167719 Aug 15, 2013
Therealnews com wrote:
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Agree, and another phony baloney war with Colonel Oillie North saying we have to fight them in the South American region because the communist will invade Texas.
ROTFL
LOL
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Treason -- Often An Essential Business Practice / http://tinyurl.com/krtear
(Swans - July 30, 2007) Each month I screen a film on some recent news event, situation, story or subject that was ignored, suppressed, or distorted by the major media. In June I delved back into history to the 1930s for a documentary, The Plot to Overthrow FDR, that told an earthshaking story that was covered up soon after it was exposed and has been ignored ever since. Because of its profound implications I felt it was a story that should be reviewed.
In 1934 a very popular retired general of the marines, Smedley Butler, told a congressional committee that a well-funded group had approached him to lead veterans in a coup d'état of Franklin Roosevelt's administration! The plans were based on the successful takeovers of the Italian government by Mussolini and his Fascists, the German government by Hitler and the Nazis, and by pending actions of French fascists, the Croix de Feu. Why? The wealthy elite of the country were furious that the FDR-led government enacted legislation they deemed inimical to their interests.
The agitation, disorder, and fear that accompanied the depression caused Roosevelt to employ unusual, unprecedented and even contradictory measures to preserve the existing system from overthrow. If anything it gave the overwhelming majority of the people confidence that their government was on their side and was going to help them. The elite, however, did not see it the same way. Any benefits to the others would obviously affect them negatively. They considered Roosevelt, a blue-blood like themselves, a traitor to their class./ http://www.swans.com/library/art13/pgreen117....
The 1% want to stay in their castles and have the other 99%, the vassals and serfs, live outside the walls, toil for them, give them 90% of their produce and moreover defend them in case of attack. The real serfs, the Rogues and LRSs of this world, cheer them on.
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#167720 Aug 15, 2013
wojar wrote:
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I can say with absolute certainty that circular reasoning employs logical fallacy.
The claim that the gospels are the proven "word of God" because scripture says so is as circular as it gets.
Also the notion that conclusions based on clear and convincing evidence are "mere speculation" because they lack absolute proof is spurious. If absolute certainty is the benchmark to understand the world around us then nothing is certain and all conclusions are invalid --(save for circular bible-based assertions?). Absurd.
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Oh Twinkerbelle, everyone here already knows only you hold all the answers to the mysteries of life, the universe and beyond. LMAO!

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